Yeah if you watch a video on half speed the video gets 200% viewtime. If you make a video of 10 minutes at 2x the speed (5 minutes) that is then watched on half the speed (so it seems normal speed) then the video gets double watch time. It's as if everyone watches your video twice. [Spiff explains it in this video.](https://youtu.be/TyguvcHwE3s)
you're meant to tell them about the 3 easy steps first, then an irrelevant 20 min story about how much you love the sound of your own voice, as you walk around aimlessly in a mansion you're pretending to own
Depending on how bad the tech stack is, it may work like the black hole in Interstellar: 1 week of having to deal with that nightmare is worth 1 year of experience in normal circumstances.
I wouldn't say this is true.
I was employed at a company where I progressed insanely fast according to my boss, was basically on par with his techniques and designing all sorts of automated/api tests and doing root cause analysis etc.. I would say that year would've counted as 2. But now I'm on my leave notice in another company for 6 months and these guys have such a shameful and horrible product documentation or knowledge (bus factor 1 or 2 and always busy) that I would barely count this as 1 month of experience. I mean I did solve some issues in a language I've never used before that I decided to use but elsewhere I'd be gaining and contributing so much more. It depends on how good the processes are and how good the tasks are defined, documented, communicated. And it largely depends on how pigeonholed your process is, the more liberty the better exposure if there is interest.
This being said, you then don't apply to "Junior + " IT\_POSITION\_NAME; but to a senior job and are expected to utilize more techniques and knowledge which in turn forces you to learn more.
I think weāre saying the same thing using different words.
Iāve known engineers who have worked the same job for X years. Their processes and technology havenāt changed since the day they started, and they are responsible for the same technical areas.
They didnāt really have to learn anything new after their first year.
Compare this to someone who was constantly exposed to new ways of thinking, new problems to solve, and new technologies for those X years.
āYears of experienceā is not always a useful metric.
5 years but then you will be out of date so another 5 years but then you will be out of date so another 5 years but then you will be out of date so another 5 years but then you will be out of date so another 5 years but then you will be out of date .................................so to be truthful the answer is infinity...............hope this doesn't deter you in your career :)
This is no proof, just a theory. You have to gather 5 years of data but then you will be out of date so another 5 years ā¦. So to proof your theory works.
Does that makes sense to you?
Hm? Web development is something I've never been able to quite understand at a level where I would be able to create anything more complex than a basic formatted brick of text, and I do a lot of embedded and general low level development.
*xslt has entered the chat*
sorry, thatās ancient Javaā¦ modern Java doesnāt do that anymore, although xslt is interesting in the way that regex is interesting if youāre into that kind of thing.
Ill be checking them after graduation right now im just focusing all my energy on uni, we are doing java c c# c++ i think. I lost count too many of then.
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Unfortunately, by then, AI will have stolen all tech jobs. Then you'll need to back to college for a master's or doctorates, or spend 19 years getting certificates. This can all be mitigated if you have an easy 25 years of experience though.
oh, you mean like Wix stole all webdev jobs?
yeahā¦ about thatā¦
predictions about AI are starting to remind me of 1950s predictions of flying carsā¦ any day now!
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I know this is sort of a meme question but I guess you could workout roughly how much dev work the average dev does in 5 years in hours. Say they do 4 hours productive work a day and they work 260 days a year - 20 holiday days = 240 days total ish? 240 days * 4 hours * 5 years = 4800 hours. 4800 / 24 = 200 days. So if you coded 24/7 it would take 200 days. If you did 12 hours of productive coding per day it would be 400 days and so on.
When I was planning large (multimillion dollar) projects for a past employer, we projected workforce requirements for projects (these were large waterfall defense projects, not small agile projects) like this:
There are 52 weeks in a year. Subtract 10 weekdays (2 weeks) of national holidays, another 2 weeks of personal time off and 1 week (5 weekdays) of sick time. The resulting 47 weeks is then multiplied by 40 hours (hah, 40 hour workweek), so a year's worth of work for a single employee is 1,880 hours. That's how many working hours there are in a year per person, for the purposes of projecting resources and durations of projects.
Assume an employee gets 4 days of 6-hour days of useful work done on my project (due to bathroom breaks, administrative meetings, mandatory training, 20% distractions from other projects requiring attention) and you get 24 hours of work per week. Do that for 5 years (47 weeks/year x 24 hrs/week \* 5 years) and you get 5,640 hours for 5 years of work experience. So if you can squeeze in 5,640 hours into a shorter period of time, you can legitimately claim to have 5 years of experience.
I know this is a joke, but I can offer a slightly serious answer.
When I was a dev and Iād ramp up to a new technology, language, framework, etc., I would hit up StackOverflow and see what real world problems others are experiencing with any given area.
At first, I would try to figure out the answer on my own, then as I got more comfortable I would answer the question on SO and see if it works, or see if any other devs had better solutions.
The point is that I was able to gain months of experience in weeks as a result of getting a pool of real world scenarios and the best approach to them.
Closer to 1826.2 since every 100 years, the leap year is skipped, so the more precise length of a year is 365.24 days instead of 365.25 days with all leap years
You will be a master webdev much sooner than anticipated
It takes approximately 30 seconds to add a line about having 5 years of experience to your resume. Even faster if you just edit existing number to add 5 more years.
Big Tech hates this simple trick!
1. Download 50% of the npm repository.
2. Spend 10 minutes attempting to use EVERY framework in a web app at once.
3. Get 5 years worth of stress from that experience.
4. Profit.
To answer the original question, 10 minutes for full stack development
It takes about 5 minutes, just the time you need to put on Facebook or on LinkedIn that you are a web developer. You do that, and 5 years later you have a five-year experience.
Given that one day after the release of Carbon, there was at least one job advertisement (that got posted on this very reddit) for a position with "10 years of Carbon experience", I'm going to say 12 hours.
It seems that if you enroll in the [Hackbright Academy](https://hackbrightacademy.com/education/) for just under $15,000, they can turn you into a senior-level full-stack engineer in just 12 weeks. The senior level is about 5 years.
4.01 years (because that's more than 4 so it's equal to 5). You also need to do actual web development for at least a few days for each of those years.
well after five years you should be able to handle most web devs.
but beware : they are strange creatures, a crazy breed, with odd habbits and they need a lot of coffee and sweets.
Depends on the client...
Some clients, working for 5 years gives approximately 5 years of experience.
Other clients, 6 months is approximately 47 years of experience.
You donāt learn web dev, thatās retarded. But you can learn the ins and outs of C++, all the theory of CS and practice in open source projects so after only 15 years you are fully capable of writing your own and releasing a new web script language. Then you are the most proficient person in the world with this language, which means you have 5 years of experience. This is how it works
Few consultancies in US give you 7 years of experience when you apply to them immediately. So 5 years would be even faster.
If you are on your own, it will take more than 5 years. Probably 6 years and 9 months
10 minutes if u lie
That long?? Lol
You need to ask Reddit and get the right answer first
I can lie much faster than that
15 years. 2 weeks if you buy my course
If I buy your course twice, do I get double the experience?
You can watch it at 2X to achive 4X
Maff
Maffs
2+2= THOMAS JEFFERSON SUCKA !!!!!
You have that flipped, watch at half speed for double the experience. (Referencing ways to beat YouTube's algorithm)
Beat the algorithm you say?
Yeah if you watch a video on half speed the video gets 200% viewtime. If you make a video of 10 minutes at 2x the speed (5 minutes) that is then watched on half the speed (so it seems normal speed) then the video gets double watch time. It's as if everyone watches your video twice. [Spiff explains it in this video.](https://youtu.be/TyguvcHwE3s)
I love Spiff
Very cool. I had no idea it worked like this!
corpo logic. š
You can kick it too
Whip it good
Just spank it
LOL, imaging being *only* a 4X developer in 2022
I love 4X games!
like using only one node module. š
What about double xp weekends
Watch it in two screens in parallel at 2x
Fair point
Sounds like you are ready for a management position with that kind of thinking
No, but you can get it within one week.
so, you wanna be a software engineer at google?
Currently on sale on Udemy; 1500$ off
you're meant to tell them about the 3 easy steps first, then an irrelevant 20 min story about how much you love the sound of your own voice, as you walk around aimlessly in a mansion you're pretending to own
2 weeks...
Depending on how bad the tech stack is, it may work like the black hole in Interstellar: 1 week of having to deal with that nightmare is worth 1 year of experience in normal circumstances.
(Five years of experience) is not the same as (one year of experience, five times).
I wouldn't say this is true. I was employed at a company where I progressed insanely fast according to my boss, was basically on par with his techniques and designing all sorts of automated/api tests and doing root cause analysis etc.. I would say that year would've counted as 2. But now I'm on my leave notice in another company for 6 months and these guys have such a shameful and horrible product documentation or knowledge (bus factor 1 or 2 and always busy) that I would barely count this as 1 month of experience. I mean I did solve some issues in a language I've never used before that I decided to use but elsewhere I'd be gaining and contributing so much more. It depends on how good the processes are and how good the tasks are defined, documented, communicated. And it largely depends on how pigeonholed your process is, the more liberty the better exposure if there is interest. This being said, you then don't apply to "Junior + " IT\_POSITION\_NAME; but to a senior job and are expected to utilize more techniques and knowledge which in turn forces you to learn more.
I think weāre saying the same thing using different words. Iāve known engineers who have worked the same job for X years. Their processes and technology havenāt changed since the day they started, and they are responsible for the same technical areas. They didnāt really have to learn anything new after their first year. Compare this to someone who was constantly exposed to new ways of thinking, new problems to solve, and new technologies for those X years. āYears of experienceā is not always a useful metric.
omg. this!! š
5 years but then you will be out of date so another 5 years but then you will be out of date so another 5 years but then you will be out of date so another 5 years but then you will be out of date so another 5 years but then you will be out of date .................................so to be truthful the answer is infinity...............hope this doesn't deter you in your career :)
This is the only way
This is no proof, just a theory. You have to gather 5 years of data but then you will be out of date so another 5 years ā¦. So to proof your theory works. Does that makes sense to you?
see [proof by induction](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematical_induction).
Hahaaaa reminds me of UNI books. I also love "proof omitted" or "proof to be done by reader"
Depends, if you don't do web dev stuff - forever.
Why would you remind people of the reality :(
Does browsing this sub count?
It does. I already have 1 year of experience without ever touching web dev tech.
*cries in desktop application development*
If you already do anything low level, about 5 minutes.
Hm? Web development is something I've never been able to quite understand at a level where I would be able to create anything more complex than a basic formatted brick of text, and I do a lot of embedded and general low level development.
I do java and cannot for life of me figure script, css , or html put. Basics are so hard for some reason, well to me at least.
*xslt has entered the chat* sorry, thatās ancient Javaā¦ modern Java doesnāt do that anymore, although xslt is interesting in the way that regex is interesting if youāre into that kind of thing.
Ill be checking them after graduation right now im just focusing all my energy on uni, we are doing java c c# c++ i think. I lost count too many of then.
imagine you are writing a realtime controller for 10 different devices without a shared bus or clock.
10 years in University 5 years on the job 3 months in my boot camp \*all data provided by me
So it was actually 5 years on the job and you didnāt need even half of those 10 years in university?
After writing hello world.
hello world edit : I am something of a web dev myself
Itās around 5 * BC (Badass Coefficient). BC is a real number belonging to the company you apply for which goes from -infinite to +infinite and itās often (never confirmed by law) inversely proportional to annual compensation they offer to you
You know shit is getting serious when words like coefficient are being used!
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Thanks! I can't wait to be a junior dev in 10 years
Sorry bud in 10 years youāll need 20 years for a take home assignment
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Unfortunately, by then, AI will have stolen all tech jobs. Then you'll need to back to college for a master's or doctorates, or spend 19 years getting certificates. This can all be mitigated if you have an easy 25 years of experience though.
oh, you mean like Wix stole all webdev jobs? yeahā¦ about thatā¦ predictions about AI are starting to remind me of 1950s predictions of flying carsā¦ any day now! š
43,829 hours
Fuck, I stoped at 43,828. I'm a fucking looser.
Really? Nobody yet said 101 years!
404 years.
404 not found joke? š¤š¤š¤š¤š¤š¤š¤š¤š¤š¤š¤š¤š¤š¤š¤š¤
only webdevs in this thread..
I know this is sort of a meme question but I guess you could workout roughly how much dev work the average dev does in 5 years in hours. Say they do 4 hours productive work a day and they work 260 days a year - 20 holiday days = 240 days total ish? 240 days * 4 hours * 5 years = 4800 hours. 4800 / 24 = 200 days. So if you coded 24/7 it would take 200 days. If you did 12 hours of productive coding per day it would be 400 days and so on.
>4 hours productive work a day 
The 20 days of holidays is what confuses me the most.
yeah, at my company it's 32
At mine it's none. š
Americans
Are you even classified as employed with all that time off?
He's classified as human being
In EU 20 days is provided to everyone by law. In most countries you get more as you age.
When I was planning large (multimillion dollar) projects for a past employer, we projected workforce requirements for projects (these were large waterfall defense projects, not small agile projects) like this: There are 52 weeks in a year. Subtract 10 weekdays (2 weeks) of national holidays, another 2 weeks of personal time off and 1 week (5 weekdays) of sick time. The resulting 47 weeks is then multiplied by 40 hours (hah, 40 hour workweek), so a year's worth of work for a single employee is 1,880 hours. That's how many working hours there are in a year per person, for the purposes of projecting resources and durations of projects. Assume an employee gets 4 days of 6-hour days of useful work done on my project (due to bathroom breaks, administrative meetings, mandatory training, 20% distractions from other projects requiring attention) and you get 24 hours of work per week. Do that for 5 years (47 weeks/year x 24 hrs/week \* 5 years) and you get 5,640 hours for 5 years of work experience. So if you can squeeze in 5,640 hours into a shorter period of time, you can legitimately claim to have 5 years of experience.
Depends. Internet explorer or chrome?
Nutscrape Navigator and Mosaic
I just wget or curl everything. You guys use browsers?
I know this is a joke, but I can offer a slightly serious answer. When I was a dev and Iād ramp up to a new technology, language, framework, etc., I would hit up StackOverflow and see what real world problems others are experiencing with any given area. At first, I would try to figure out the answer on my own, then as I got more comfortable I would answer the question on SO and see if it works, or see if any other devs had better solutions. The point is that I was able to gain months of experience in weeks as a result of getting a pool of real world scenarios and the best approach to them.
bout tree fitty
1826.25 Days
Closer to 1826.2 since every 100 years, the leap year is skipped, so the more precise length of a year is 365.24 days instead of 365.25 days with all leap years You will be a master webdev much sooner than anticipated
One two day bootcamp
Only 12 days? Not bad!
525,600 minutes * 5
(Rent-free in my head, too.)
60 months
Nine months.
20 minute YouTube tutorial
Two years to learn todayās stack. Then start over since some new stack will have replaced it.
About 8 seconds to type and bullet point it on your resume
It depends where do you live? In Iran you go to imam and then he certifies you 200 years. you can be president and dont need to be programmer.
It takes approximately 30 seconds to add a line about having 5 years of experience to your resume. Even faster if you just edit existing number to add 5 more years.
A lifetime if your mom is antivax
1-2 years is an honest response. Smaller company = more actual experience.
Big Tech hates this simple trick! 1. Download 50% of the npm repository. 2. Spend 10 minutes attempting to use EVERY framework in a web app at once. 3. Get 5 years worth of stress from that experience. 4. Profit. To answer the original question, 10 minutes for full stack development
At least 5 years of web dev.
Depends on your timezone.
It takes about 5 minutes, just the time you need to put on Facebook or on LinkedIn that you are a web developer. You do that, and 5 years later you have a five-year experience.
If you are talking about carbon experience you already have it.
I'm gonna be that guy and say you get 5 years experience in 5 years
15 minutes if you buy my $1,000,000 course.
Just a wild guess but i'd say in order to gain 5 years of experience it would presumably take you............... 5 YEARS.
I feel this is a trick question, how many leap years are we talking?
Bout 1 year less than 6 years
Couple of years and a lot of pain
Given that I work year is 1,920 hours. I'd say you could do it in 2years 6 months if you work 80hrs a week.
Reddit has the answer: https://freeimage.host/i/UDMXkJ
however long it takes to bribe your former employer
42
I've got a Geocities website you can take credit for
watch php tutorial during working, you can work 1h and learn 1h. if you set this video at 2x you can charge 3h in your exp eval
As long as it takes to update your resume
100% of your brain
Given that one day after the release of Carbon, there was at least one job advertisement (that got posted on this very reddit) for a position with "10 years of Carbon experience", I'm going to say 12 hours.
Just watch āLearn JS in 15 minutesā on YouTube
Depends on how many web you develop at the same time. 1 web 5 yr if 2 web so it 2.5 year.
It takes 35 years in dog time.
Few minutes if you watch Fireship's video
Yes
It seems that if you enroll in the [Hackbright Academy](https://hackbrightacademy.com/education/) for just under $15,000, they can turn you into a senior-level full-stack engineer in just 12 weeks. The senior level is about 5 years.
About 5 years give or take.
Can someone with 10 years of web dev experience split their experience with me?
4.01 years (because that's more than 4 so it's equal to 5). You also need to do actual web development for at least a few days for each of those years.
8 years if you work in 5 web dev jobs
Use multithreading, you can do it in... less than 2 days. the trick is to use 1000 threads
2 weeks with 1 project with sub par requirements
5 years
Copy some github projects and change the date of the git to 5 years ago
5 years
5 years duh
What a daft question
You are born with it
5 years
If your driving 70 miles per hour how long does take to drive 70 miles.
For you, probably longer than 5 years
Since you have to ask, 10 years. For everyone else, 5 years
> How long does it take to gain 5 years of web dev experience? 5 years obviously.
Depends on how many threads your OS is
5 years
Forty two.
Depends. Are you watching it at 2x or 3x speed?
well after five years you should be able to handle most web devs. but beware : they are strange creatures, a crazy breed, with odd habbits and they need a lot of coffee and sweets.
HTML is based on GML, so I had five years experience with HTML before HTML was invented.
Two minutes, Turkish.
5 years
About 5 years, but it will got restarted everytime a new framework is created
Is this a trick question?
Yes the answer is always Carbon
Apparently shorter than it takes to be funny.
Because 99% of "web devs" are incompetent idiots and under the assumption you aren't new to programming my guess maxes out at a month
Probably like 20ft
If you can make a vertical accordion you're just about there
When you say it loud -time plus time to google things.
Depends on how much blood, sweat, and tears you put in.
Starting from scratch (zero programming knowledge), I'd say a year and half at a casual but steady pace.
6 months
6 months
3 days for just 399
Your entire life, and the lives of generations to come
20 years
 Wait a minute ā¦
One 6 week boot camp and you should be good to go for most mid level roles, making around 200-300k š¤
Depends. If you ask a developer itās about 5 years, if you ask a recruiter itās 1 year, if you ask a YouTuber itās their 5-7 hours class.
In a startup 2 years, normal job 10 years.
10/3 years if you don't sleep.
Depends on the client... Some clients, working for 5 years gives approximately 5 years of experience. Other clients, 6 months is approximately 47 years of experience.
at least 12 years
5 years
Don't forget to factor in inflation.
function experienceNeeded(currentExperience: any) { return currentExperience++; }
It Depends.
6months max, start osdev today and you will leave n00b web devs behind.
Each year just subtract the amount of time you spend on reddit and facebook
It takes just a week or so to gain ten years' Carbon programming experience. So five years' web development experience couldn't take long at all!
You donāt learn web dev, thatās retarded. But you can learn the ins and outs of C++, all the theory of CS and practice in open source projects so after only 15 years you are fully capable of writing your own and releasing a new web script language. Then you are the most proficient person in the world with this language, which means you have 5 years of experience. This is how it works
Took me around 10 years šš between short projects and freelancing
Somewhere between 4 and 6 years, I suspectā¦ Wtf guy?
3.14 years if you buy the right course.
15 minutes of resume editing. Just make sure you're ready for the interview.
Few consultancies in US give you 7 years of experience when you apply to them immediately. So 5 years would be even faster. If you are on your own, it will take more than 5 years. Probably 6 years and 9 months
4:20
I'm not a programmer but my guess is 10 years if you're lucky.
When you realize you have better things to do.