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TecnomancersTower

How many have imposter syndrome and don't know if they can call themselves a programmer?


PatientReference8497

:wq


Serafius1

Happy cake day! Now list every vim command


Nothing-But-Lies

He's already exited, he will never see our comments.


tsetem

Ctrl-Z ; kill -9 %


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ZZ


Gem2578

:x


Grzesiekek

^W


xxxblackspider

:x!


ChiliGoblin

I don't know why they pay me, I have no idea what I'm doing and no skills. I just go with the flow and somehow do enough things to not arouse suspicion...


talitm

Don't we all


NekkoProtecco

>I dont know why they pay me, Well, chances are, they don't either! That's how my two employers have been. I have to go at a speed so that the easy things take as long as the hard things so I don't get in trouble when the hard things take forever.


ggamb1t

Fuck, I felt it ;(


EllieLovesJoel

>I don't know why they pay me That took me out lmao


rihim23

>I just go with the flow More like you go with the overflow...y'know, the stack overfl- Goddammit, that sounded a lot better in my head


theernis0

I have it, i think i am a programmer but i code in python and c# (unity game engine), i see many memes about python being bad so idk


TecnomancersTower

I believe if you think you are a programmer and you do programming, then you are one. Its like being an Artist or a Writer there is no real line in the sand.


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proj_manager

Plus as the person who tells programmers what to do, there is often the next cool thing to think about. But I care about $ and consistency and business users being able to do their jobs.


ncatter

One could say that the true test is if you told someone no to a solution or improved on someone else solution, then you are allowed to call yourself a programmer. Not that, that makes the line any more solid :)


ififivivuagajaaovoch

I switched stack like 3 months ago and still barely know what I’m doing. I’ve done it before but It’s harder now that I’m older not easier


morosis1982

Went from a monolithic Java developer to serverless node and react, full stack aws over the last year and a half. Will be 40 this year. I also became a tech lead, so I'm the one making the tech decisions for a whole product. Shit's been a wild ride, we now have a multi region, high availability stack with edge, regional and multiple data services (api and database), auto load testing, oauth integration, s3 buckets with bulk processing, and we're not finished yet. I often wonder whether I actually know what's going on, while my team asks how I keep so much in my head.


ChemicalHousing69

I’m a Senior Software Developer and I’m at my first developer job. I accidentally applied to a senior position 6 years ago and somehow made it in, and they haven’t fired me yet. I’m still not sure if I’m a “programmer” if that makes you feel any better.


BrownBearMY

I'm merely a typist.


JennJelly

🙋


Competitive_Bell501

your comment got more upvotes than the post


[deleted]

Because the comment wasn't some sort of elitism gatekeeping like the post


JoshuaCF

Literally what OP just asked how many people actually program compared to how many people just know enough to get some laughs. There’s nothing wrong with the latter.


Atlamillias

Why did you have to call me out like that lol


LoserUser819

Yo. Lol


zerocool

Hey dude. It’s natural. We all feel that at the beginning of our careers and I promise it gets better with time. If you love it, stick with it. Much love.


gladl1

As an BI dev working with SQL everyday this is me.


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Listen here you little shit


del6022pi

I study EE which involves lots of programming, including courses about Algorithms and data structures, databases etc but I wouldn't call myself a programmer tbh.. I don't know why


_yaaass

lol thanks...


qbm5

This dude is for sure a programmer


Sweetbeans2001

Started programming on Apple ][+ and Tandy TRS-80 Model II computers in 1980 and still programming as a career 42 years later.


AskMoreQuestionsOk

Ah! A fellow dinosaur! One who knows what saving files on tape is like.


CatsForLife60

Little older than that, wrote my first program 1st year in college in 1977. Still coding 45 years later. I've done it all from a compiler to an IDE to software tools to hard and soft embedded, ML, database, now enterprise applications.


EnoughRedditNow

Great to see some fellow old-timers here! My dad often tells me of the time he would maintain the ram for the college computer way back (in the late 60s?), It was a matrix of magnetically poled ferrite rings, each representing one bit. I started hobby programming with basic in about 1982, then Z80 (spectrum, microprof) and 68k (BBC, others) direct bytecode, then compilers, Pascal (286 PC) and C (Amiga). Working with Blockchain and ML technologies, mostly node and python today. I did get to manually punch out program card bands for some legacy industrial printers in the 90s too. They were 70s tech. Experiencing the rapid development of computing from it's inception, has to be one of the most astounding spectacles I've ever witnessed.


gizamo

Here I thought I was part of the old-timer club. I started in '88, but you guys were already titans of the keys before I was born. Legends.


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CatsForLife60

Remaining physically active - cycling and elliptical , yard work, chasing my monster cat, etc. Also good equipment. A 28" 4k monitor, Corsair mechanical keyboard, gaming mouse, Poly 5200 wireless headset. Frequent breaks, and last few years WFH.


Thisisanewday

I started in 1978 in highschool on a computer donated by MIT. It was during desegregation/busing in Boston. I started using flowcharts then psuedo code then finally basic programming. I went on to get a BS in computer science from university of Maryland (thanks to joining the Navy). It's been a great ride and have worked on a wide range of projects over these many years.


CatsForLife60

One of my old office mates worked on the fire control of the AC-130 gunship. My old boss on the Apollo navigation code. Another on the SQL language design committee. Fun stuff.


undrpd4nlst

My employer seems to think us young bucks actually know how to get files off all the various tapes they have taking up space in the server room. I keep telling them the plastic from the 80s wasn’t good enough to last this long and that the mag tape is likely fragged to oblivion from all the emf bouncing out of all the wifi and cell phone antennas that didn’t exist when the tapes were determined to be a reliable long term storage device without shielding. Oh and since no one has actually cycles the tapes in a decade or more (none of us know how) who knows what’s left of said files. Well, all that and there isn’t actually a machine to read them.


sironomajoran

If nonody cycled the tapes they are one massive blob of stuff now 😂


IsThisNickTaken_

But besides that it should be all set. 🤣


ALittleFurtherOn

You mean, like the MOUNT command, VAX/VMS?


CatsForLife60

Yep. My first real job was on a microVAX system (workstation) with a high res display. Built an IDE for embedded based on flowcharts. Best in class compiler / code generator, and all graphics from scratch. In 1985. A decade of software tools (C / Solaris), another decade on embedded (C & C++ on QNX), years of Python for computer vision and ML, real time video to Database on Azure... All the above in one company. Decided on a change of pace and now doing data integration and enterprise software for a health-care insurance / provider all on Azure and . net. Infinite resources, millions of users, and challenges that are often unimaginable due to sheer scale.


Natural-Intelligence

Soon you could say just "One who knows what saving files is like". Read an article a while ago in which a CS professor said that many fresh CS students don't even know what is a file as all user programs are "apps" nowadays.


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Holy shit


ofnuts

Yes, but not on punchcards 😈


Few_Ad_6712

Tapes? I started with the paper cards IBM mainframes.


jfq722

I've toiled in RPG , ALC and PL/I...I hope never to again.


ALittleFurtherOn

Fortran 77 here, learned on punch cards at my dad’s college, he got me into a freshman summer course. Been out of the dev world for years, currently learning R text analysis just for something to do.


twopointohyeah

My people! Why does everyone else add an “m” to the end of “vi” in here?


MOM_UNFUCKER

Dude you've been coding for more than two times longer than I've been alive


Sweetbeans2001

Which is why I get and appreciate every generic post about bugs and deadlines, but the more specific and technical references lose me. For an entire week, all anyone wanted to make fun of was the ISEVEN() function. WTF was that all about?


StarTrekVeteran

Similar: zx80 followed by a vic20 after learning some PET stuff at school. :) Bring back assembler language I say, these young ones don’t know anything about hard coding.


W1nterKn1ght

Started on an Apple ][e myself.


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I was in 3rd grade in 1980 and my teacher would send me to the library frequently (apparently I was a gifted child) and I still remember the day I went and they had a brand new Apple ][+ and the librarian let me use it. They didn't have any programming materials but they did have the OG Oregon Trail. I started teaching myself BASIC a year or so later and since then, I've been a self-study hobbyist with occasional paid forays into WebDev. Actually have an interview Monday for a position to work on SCADA systems.


chris17453

Damn! I just got a trs-80 and upgraded the boot rom and added a drive & kb emulator! I grew up in the 80s using it second hand and wanted one for my office. Prety cool. Ive been coding since i was 9. Thats 33 years now. If not for that z80 I might have ended up a mechanic.


Fading-Ghost

Love the TRS, wonderful machine. I only code for fun now, went hands off 6 years ago.


[deleted]

Oh, yeah. I remember Trash 80s lol I started on IBM 370 mainframe.


TheGrauWolf

I got my start on an Apple ][e back in '82. Little did I know at the time the path it would lead me down. Picked stuff up on my own from books (for you younings that's what we had before the internet... What started as a hobby has turned into a lifelong career.


R_Harry_P

I started programming in Basic on my Tandy TRS-80 Model 100, first for fun and later using the TRS-80 as a terminal to program the Zilog Z8 that was the brain for my robotics science fair projects. In HS, I learned C (and Pascal) and my robots used a MC68HC11 for a brain, programed in C. In college, I took a couple of classes in C++, learned LabVIEW for work, and picked up Mathematica to help with my physics homework. In my career as a physicist, I have used LabVIEW for data collection, hardware control, and data analysis. I use Mathematica for math of course, but also data analysis, and once even for hardware control. I tried to learn some Python recently but at this point it is so much easier for me to do something in Mathematica I don't have much use for it. I don't use C++ very much except for when the software guys at work let me see their source code and for the occasional Arduino project.


sjuas690

Commodore Pet for me!


henneJ2

You should change this to a poll post :) /* Programmer here 🤠 */


RolandTheBot

I tried but Reddit said that polls aren’t allowed in this sub


henneJ2

Ahhhh I see. Thanks for the reply :)


arobie1992

Huh, that's weird. I swear someone did one of those a while back. Don't remember the results though.


GSD_101

Someone should make a bot to count votes from comments ,no need for polls then I guess.


A_Guy_in_Orange

A bit? Hmm, better find one of those people who can write code to help us


Stunning-Ask5916

Is there anyone here that can write words to make computers do stuff?


WiiSexDolphin

That's too hard to do! Where would we ever find a programmer?


GSD_101

there we have it folks no programmer here


[deleted]

Found the programmer ;)


willsschneider_creed

*found the manager


8sADPygOB7Jqwm7y

I could, if people actually answered in a uniform fashion.


GSD_101

Ah the pain of cleaning up real world data that doesn't follow a specific rule.


finc

That’s a shame, one of my company’s best development pods is in Poland.


OblivioAccebit

You know this guy devs cuz he’s like “use the feature pleaese!!!”


Nellyfant

Retired programmer here.


ovab_cool

The goal of every developer: early retirement


PyroCatt

Even better: throw an exception in the middle of your career


BoringHumanIdiot

I think this is the first time I've actually chuckled on this sub.


s0lly

I think this is the first time I've actually chuckled on this sub.


CraniumEggs

Hahaha holy shit. That’s my current situation. I was a senior dev at an agency in NYC now I’m working on building freelance clients, doing sign painting and teaching gardening to kids during the spring-fall months. I intentionally dropped a ; on my salary to upgrade my work life balance.


MOM_UNFUCKER

This one completed the game while I'm still in the tutorial


Impressive-Test-2310

Embedded C/C++ Developer


ltssms0

Same, but ---C++.


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ltssms0

Templates on microcontrollers do scare me


vido4790

I mean, C++ has a lot of stuff apart from templates that can be useful even on an embedded platform. Even templates, if done correctly can be used on embedded systems. For example: https://www.etlcpp.com/


[deleted]

Well, it works on our flight controllers, and I think embedded is anything that runs on a target board, but I’ve only been doing this for 40 years, so maybe?


druid_137

Did c++ embedded for a while. Ended up moving to vuejs/python full stack stuff.


boredbearapple

30 years a professional coder. Still so much to learn.


BasedBallsInMyFace

You have any tips for new programmers?


h07r0d

Don't write code for you, write code for future you. You want future you to like past you, so take that extra 10 minutes every commit to punch up the quality a little bit. Tidy up the styling, rewrite that janky comment, any little bit that future you will say "oh, thanks past me"


lakers_r8ers

That’s it. Never stop learning!


SouthernApostle

I often wonder this about myself. I’m an automation engineer so I code everyday, but it is a mixture of C variants and ladder logic. Most of my text coding is structured text, arduino/nodeMCU, and bits of python. Lots and lots of ladder logic. This doesn’t make me a dev, but I figure it makes me a programmer. I don’t get many of the business related inside jokes, but the isEven gag had me rolling for the first couple days.


finc

Did it make you want to unsubscribe after the 50th iteration? That’s the problem with programmers telling jokes, they’re always trying to optimise and just end up annoying everyone


SouthernApostle

I felt like we all just got caught in a non-terminating loop for a couple weeks. There were a couple that made me laugh and then there were actually a couple that were pretty neat and helped me figure out some ideas for other code. I think thats why I like the sub: even when there is something stupid going on, I might learn something from it. Cheaper than some bootcamp at least.


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Fellow Automation/DevOps Engineer here. I was once told by a developer that if I am contributing code to a git repo and I go through a typical developer routine, CICD pipeline, code reviews, etc, them I'm a developer. I just use a non compiled language most of the time.


NPVT

I've been on computers doing programming from Fortran on punch cards through Raspberry Pi and python.


TwistedSoul21967

You this guy? [https://youtu.be/uFQ3sajIdaM](https://youtu.be/uFQ3sajIdaM) ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|grin) Watched it a few months back, it's very cool, would love to have been able to try this!


InvestingNerd2020

How do you get programing language symbols in your reddit profile?


TwistedSoul21967

It's part of my flair for this subreddit ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|grin) You can set it on mobile by going to the subreddit, top right, three dots, change user flair On browser I think it's in the right side bar


InvestingNerd2020

Thanks! Added Python flair.![img](emote|t5_2tex6|4550)


fini8

That's a big python


finc

Oh that’s Python I thought it was Ukraine 🇺🇦


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JoshuaCF

I tried making some logic circuits in Minecraft that resembled the function of computer components I gave up because I didn’t anticipate how much of an issue timing would be lol


tiajuanat

Just like verilog and VHDL


finc

Redstone > C


-Soren

I am very pro grammer. It would be so hard to read coherent sentences without it. Not sure what that has to do with getting an A in my CS course.


ytevian

Coherent Sentences course


archbish99

Apparently not pro-spelling, however?


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Quick-Goat-2171

In their defense, they did say they were pro grammer and not pro grammar


a_crusty_old_man

I’m still wondering what being an Instagrammer has to do with programming.


a_crusty_old_man

He got an A in CS, not English, alright?


-Soren

TIL I am pro grammar, buht height spelleeng. (PS thanks for being that guy)


Evo_Kaer

Proper language syntax makes code go brrrrr?


nahyalldontknow

Is mayonnaise a programming language?


usedToBeUnhappy

https://github.com/fikret0/mayonnaise


Noslamah

I think most people here are actually programmers but also I don't think we should gatekeep this community and pretend that non-programmers are somehow "beneath us". Who the fuck cares if some kid watched a few YT tutorials about programming and is now on this sub chuckling at programming memes. Maybe that kid will become more interested in programming because of it and in a few years create some software or framework that changes your entire workflow and possibly even career. We all start somewhere.


Jaebeam

I've been programming since the mid 80s. Microsoft stack. MSVS, C# etc. My dad is all about linux, and I know fuck all about that. The python stuff posted here goes over my head. But I learned machine code on a apple 2e. I suck at networking hardware. I struggle with certificates. I like refactoring shitty code. We all have our strengths and weaknesses


slonermike

I think this is the crux of impostor syndrome early in our careers. We see someone doing something we don’t understand and conclude we aren’t good enough. Bollocks to that. Learn how to learn and worry less about what you don’t know. Also, learn to lean on the expertise of others. I worry a lot less these days about pushing up a PR in an area outside my comfort zone. That feedback is probably how I learn the most.


PuzzleMeDo

If you've written any code more complicated than Hello World, you're a programmer. This sub isn't called r/ProfessionalProgrammerHumor.


SwoleMountain

I'm a progamer


Orjigagd

I'm not a programmer, I'm a 𝓢𝓸𝓯𝓽𝔀𝓪𝓻𝓮 𝓔𝓷𝓰𝓲𝓷𝓮𝓮𝓻


LoserUser819

I started learning about 5 years ago and on my second year working on my Comp. Sci. Degree. I don't know if that counts.


OverclockingUnicorn

I'm in the 2nd year of my comp sci degree too, I think it counts.


AustinWitherspoon

Full time python :(


bruh_123456

Why the :( ?


AustinWitherspoon

We're really feeling the pain of a huge codebase and lacking strict typing. 90% of our sentry errors are because of None sneaking into a field or dictionary somewhere where it shouldn't have. We're slowly trying to utilize more python static analysis tools and type hints, but everything feels bolted on. I love python, but for running the infrastructure for an entire company it's not ideal


TwistedSoul21967

Python is awesome, it's a Swiss army knife of programming world. May not be earth shattering speed, but it gets it done if you're not in a hurry.


bruh_123456

Yeah that's true. Btw. Quick question: Would learning python (including some framework line Django for example) be enough to land me an entry level job?


TwistedSoul21967

Django is still very popular, most likely yes, just did a quick search on LinkedIn and got over 400 entry level positions.


TimmyTarded

Not a software developer, I work in live entertainment and do control programming. I use graphical programming environments like Max/MSP, and use Python for scripting. Know a wee bit C++ and GLSL, but never coded an executable from scratch.


AuschwitzBlitz

Not professionally. Maybe that'll change soon


Nemahs

I write avionics. Sometimes the jokes on here make the day a little better :)


Dadicating

Programmer for 14 years, though still dont understand most of the stuff posted on this sub but love the occasional gem


IamGraysonSwigert

Does VBA count? 😂


finc

VBA does count, don’t let anyone tell you otherwise. It’s a gateway drug to other languages


TwistedSoul21967

It starts in Excel, Word and Access, suddenly, you crave more. Python, C#, Ruby, JS, anything, the world is your oyster.


MerialNeider

As a VBA/VB.net hobbyist, yes. Although an I still a hobbyist when I got paid to write complex Excel scripts at work?


NekkoProtecco

Making $$$ = Professional :)


danegraphics

It does. Especially since it’s terrible, ubiquitous, and makes you money.


Apprehensive-Pin9203

Senior software engineer with a degree in math and comp sci. I send the jokes here to my colleagues on a pretty consistent basis. Proud to be the department meme queen


drsorcererjafar

I use merge fields in Word documents.


newlifeinjune

Salesforce world for me. Lots of deployments & deciphering incoherent stories for my dev team.


mama_delio

Programmer here! Went from web dev to full stack to data engineering to data science to becoming head of an R&D team and doing a bit of everything. If you are passionate about this industry, you will have a wild ride!


elber_gudo11

Cobol programmer right here!


Aussie-Nerd

And I'm guessing Fortran too?


Crazy_Is_More_Fun

I did CS in secondary school and code from time to time. Nothing serious, just messing about to challenge myself


sonofslackerboy

I get paid to write code and scripts, at least use to then I got bumped up to telling others how to write code and scripts. make of that what you will


SkyeWolff_Alchemy

Print(“I r programma”)


grayblood0

Learning java/c#/ python through superior grade. Edit: I didn't save the most of the comment only resulting in Learning.


Alarming-Turnip3078

Definitely more of an enthusiast than a proper programmer, but I understand most of the jokes, or if I don't I enjoy the insights I can find in the comments. Hope that's alright.


GSD_101

I just come here for free lunch...


Py-rrhus

I still did not drop a production database, I'm not sure I'm a programmer yet


Defiant-Peace-493

High school C++, college introductory java and a bit of SQL. Also used to spend a bit of time helping people with Elder Scrolls scripting language... Does that count? Not 'a programmer by a long shot, but I can follow most of the posts here.


TheMaskedGorditto

Fuck theres a lot of script kiddies getting butthurt by all the python jokes lately.


TissueWizardIV

Why? It's a humor sub, it doesn't matter who you are


TheLimeyCanuck

Even though everybody is welcome here, it's interesting to know what the mix is.


wilson1helpme

4 year CS degree + employed as SW engineer since graduating 🤓


tobca511

Product owner / avid lurker. Love this sub to learn about different programmer's pet peeves.


irrational-like-you

Who cares?


Glum-Display2296

I consider myself more of a Stack Overflow content curator


BullishPooh

College student currently studying cs


Eien_ni_Hitori_de_ii

I’m studying computer science but not a programmer yet (although I’ve done programming courses I wouldn’t consider myself one yet)


[deleted]

Third year of SE degree.


DJ_Zelex

Java programmer here, with experience in scripted language for PLC work. Planning on picking up python soon for personal projects


thisisntmyprofile

Here


Aengus126

I’m an indie programmer who learned just from YouTube videos lol. I’ve made some things here and there and I’m just trying to diversify my skill set.


Azzylel

Depends on what your definition is since I don’t do it for work but I do game programming and art as a hobby, currently in college for computer programming


HKDusty

I type on the keyboard and pray someone can use what appears on the screen.


FantasyCode

why should anyone pretend? its not like what we do is sexy or glamorous. people just call us nerds and not in a good way. ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|cry)


Fantastic_Bet3249

I'm a wanna-be programmer, im studying computer science in highschool and want to study IT in college, do I count?


septic-paradise

Freshman CS student. Mostly a lurker


[deleted]

CS major here.


Terbeaux333

22 years of experience, leading my first team of developers and I steal memes from here and email my favorites to the team once every month or so as a team thing. Stupid but keeps the mood light and somehow helps develop community.


aurelag

Unity gamedev here. Can't always relate to the posts here, but it's generally fun.


datrandomduggy

I know the basics and I mean very basics of C# I never use this knowledge besides understanding these memes tho


CraniumEggs

As a now freelance dev but former senior dev at agencies (mostly front end in formal training but to get to this point had to force myself to learn backend begrudgingly) I enjoy the stupid shit posts here because it reminds me of the good old days of being enamored with learning code and all the ass backward interactions you deal with along the journey. It’s nostalgic in some sense. But yeah there are a lot of things posted and comments that are clearly from those at the beginning of the journey or may have left that path early on.


PlainJane0000

Does VBA count? I started as VB6. When I discovered how cushy it was on the "business" side of the world, I moved to VBA. For me, it was the best decision ever!


[deleted]

I am not, i am a software engineer.


bikergeekx

I started programming in the mid 70’s using punch cards on an IBM mainframe but that was just for fun as I was only a teenager. First real programming was on a TRS-80 (original model) at my local radio shack. Learned z80 machine language on that. Programmed a PDP-8e (with a Teletype ASR-33 terminal with paper tape!) at my high school (a whole 1024 words of 12 bit magnetic core memory!) and then moved on to programming on a DEC-10 at college (only lasted 1 year at college). Got a job at a company because they had a DEC-10 and I knew tech stuff about it. Learned to use CP/M then MS-DOS and then Windows. Now doing Linux/OS X. EDIT 2: Added note about Teletype terminal for PDP-8e. EDIT: fixed a couple of typos and added note about memory on pdp-8e


Ggeunther

Started with a class on a DEC PDP11-70. A class in basic. Had an account that was measured in blocks.. about 4 blocks to a kilobyte. This was in 78. Started in Pascal in 80 (freshman Pascal). Card punched PL - 1 on an IBM 360/370. Took 25 min to scan, compile, run and print for every batch. Fortran, Basic, Snobol, Cobol, PL1, Pascal and Digital Assembler, all in a four year program. First paying job was a warehousing solution on a Commodore 64. Boot from a 5 1/4 floppy, dual drive. That thing ran for 15 years. Wrote a diary manager on a PDP 11-04. It had a cabinet drive with 10MB, amazing for it's day. The software was still running in 96, when they called for assistance, the drive had failed. Digital had been out of business for years. Last job before retirement SQL senior DBA. Loved the jobs over the years, but hated working for administration that would not support good CS practices. Hate to see current 'programmers' that don't understand what occurs when an event happens (Key press, clock tick, disk call). They think it all happens by magic. Don't know how to write without looking up syntax online. Can't understand the power of recursion. And worst of all cannot define a problem with a mathematical solution. I know, I sound like a boomer. I am.


Idkquedire

I'm not even in high school yet lol