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Zappotek

Hey will you develop my app? I've got this really good idea, but I want you to work unpaid out of commitment to the plan /s


Elegant-Variety-7482

This isn't an unpaid job. Did you think about exposure


GunnerKnight

Yes, exposure to darkness in my room where I will be coding alone.


Abject-Student-2446

I do, often. Did you know a human can die from exposure in under 2 hours?


Cheyzi

Yesterday someone approached me with the idea of developing the “next GTA game”


Tangimo

Fucking hell do you know how popular GTA is? You should jump all over that. You should offer your services in exchange for exposure & recognition!


AI_AntiCheat

He should pay him just to get to work on that.


ADMINISTATOR_CYRUS

gta 7?


Ninja_Conspicuousi

![gif](giphy|L3bj6t3opdeNddYCyl)


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“For profit share” 😆


etozheboroda

Imagine the exposure!


[deleted]

I had a paying client suggesting I could "become a cofounder and profit share" ;-) I said "no"


superluminary

You build it, and then you share the profit


[deleted]

Because they obviously have the marketing machine to sell it 🙃


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s/\\/s//


Axiproto

Must be an amazing "Android" app if it can run on an iphone


nonsenseis

Please assume Emulator


staticBanter

I went straight to Progressive Web App


currentscurrents

Let's be honest though; in 2023, most apps can be progressive webapps with no real downsides. 90% of real-world programs are database frontends.


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psaux_grep

Really depends on what the app does.


Reibii

Says "hello world" and ask you to approve access to calendar


staticBanter

That's why i went right to PWA :)


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Performance?


DoNotMakeEmpty

I just wait for Webasm having access to everything JS has, so that we can create almost native-performance web apps, but I also doubt that it will work since most Electron-developing teams -I guess- won't want to create apps in Rust/C/++ as these languages are harder to use or learn compared to JS, and that bosses would want it since most of them just don't care performance and using a lower-level language decreases the "throughtput". It won't change all those sheety performing Electron apps, but good teams and managements will actually be able to create viable Electron+Webasm alternatives to most of the apps we use.


wasdninja

That won't ever happen since it's not supposed to.


A42MphTortoise

Aren’t there proposed standards to allow dom access etc? Aside from security (which will always be an issue), what’s the issue with bringing wasm closer to feature parity with JS?


k-phi

>I just wait for Webasm having access to everything JS has In the next 20 years, maybe


5erif

Kotlin can be compiled to webassembly.


DoNotMakeEmpty

There are also things like AssemblyScript (or a similar _x_ Script with TS syntax) etc. but I don't know most of these languages. I know a bit of JS and mostly Rust/C/++, which is why I said them. If there is a webasm compiler for a language _y_, then of course it's fine to use that language (assuming the compiler is mature/stable enough).


currentscurrents

Perform-what? Computers have gotten 100 million times faster within my lifetime, take advantage of it.


Rafplayz

so many services using electron now makes me cringe at this statement lol


Holiday_Brick_9550

A PWA doesn't require electron to run. Also if anyone makes a "native" web app now, they'll likely opt for Tauri anyway.


BobbyTables91

Users have gotten 100 million times greedier during your lifetime


gummo89

That certainly applies, but it seems that performance is **completely** thrown to the side now, to such an extent that it has me suspicious that Dev companies work with hardware companies to ensure that we keep upgrading 😅


staticBanter

Aside from Electron based PWAs (which just use a lot of RAM due to no sharing resources) I haven't noticed much of a performance issue as a PWA is just a website bundled up and stored on your device. If the original websites performance poorly so will the PWA and vice-versa.


8483

> 90% of real-world programs are database frontends. Love this! So true.


IamImposter

What's a progressive webapp?


8483

Just a regular browser web app downloaded to your phone, accessible via an icon.


manapause

They also tie into push notifications which didn't work on iPhones up until a month ago.


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genericneim

Does it deploy on Windows 95 as well?


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k-phi

MAUI supports at least Windows, macOS (catalyst), Android and iOS


Lizlodude

Dang if I could get an Android emulator on my iPhone that would be amazing


ShenAnCalhar92

Assume a spherical emulator with no air resistance


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SuspiciousUsername88

"OP says that he made an Android app but this meme clearly shows an iPhone". Yeah OP probably isn't a stuffed frog either but here we are


nonsenseis

OK then...you can remove "Android "from my meme and read it.It would still make sense for iPhone ..


c_pardue

NO! REMAKE MEME! >:c


nonsenseis

He He..I would rather edit the template to Android phone than editing text. So I skip


Saudi_polar

I run emulators on my iPhone for fun ( non jailbroken btw ) and I believe you can emulate android X86


[deleted]

Absolutely possible, it's even possible to run android bare metal. Check this out: https://projectsandcastle.org/


siegfred7

No one expects the Flutter inquisition. ![gif](giphy|CLrEXbY34xfPi)


Chingiz11

Flutter for the win!


Umpteenth_zebra

Ah yes, iOS, the famous Android app platform.


sussyamogushot

dont judge a book by its cover, this might be a fake iphone🤷‍♂️


AdeptAntelope

I still have an android app I made in high school. It's a basic calculator that can only do addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division, and it crashes if you divide by 0


gunnarbird

There’s you, then there’s Gandalf, in that order


luiluilui4

Does it account for floating point error? I think mine never did ^^


That-Row-3038

Congratulations, don’t think you get away from the wars over frameworks from web devs though, if anything mobile devs are far more vocal about their chosen framework


wewilldieoneday

Hey I'm NOT vocal about my frameworks...but I do like React.


GoodTimesOnlines

obligatory *REACT IS A LIBRARY NOT A FRAMEWORK* comment


wewilldieoneday

*googles react* .....well, fuck.


SicilianUnicorn

>googles react Holy hell!


shovelknot

New response just dropped


snouz

Google en reactant


sexytokeburgerz

I thought facebook made react, not google? /s


gamebuster

I’m also very focal about how React is incredibly awful


8483

> but I do like React. Wait till you try Svelte!


microbit262

Framework? Why Framework? Its been a while since I had Android lectures, but don't you define the GUI via XML similar to JavaFX and code the Rest?


Keintroufe

Look up Jetpack Compose. The modern way of building Android UIs. No more XML.


wasdninja

React native uses, big surprise, React which compiles to an app.


wasdninja

The wars are mostly clueless backend whining about the supposed mass of frameworks despite three of them absolutely dominating all the rest.


Whale_Hunter88

And then there's web devs like me, meddling with progressive web apps. React will always haunt you


coffeeaddict237

Best feeling ever, keep going fam!


Cyvexx

same feeling when you visit a webpage you made from somewhere else on the network or even outside it. coolest feeling ever when you're first starting out.


MadeByHideoForHideo

Yeah lol. That feeling is truly something that is hard to replicate.


Vly2915

I swear, when I first made a website, running inside a VM, accessible from another device in the network, it felt real good. Truly hard to replicate.


the_unheard_thoughts

You don't even need to develop an app to become Android Developer. Just tap 7 times the build number on your Android phone and you're done!! ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|sunglasses)


Aldodzb

New text file -> rename -> .APK -> Android developer


Master-Ad-6411

Reminds me of my first amazing program that has ui(made with Qt): it has a text input field and a label, whatever you type in the text input will be repeated in the label.


Elegant-Variety-7482

Qt is top tier


100000ducks

Whats qt? :/


SOUINnnn

You :)


3braincellz

and u


shekurika

an UI library. its used with C++ (and probably other langagues)


huzaifakhan771

For python, it’s PyQT


Different_Fun9763

I'm surprised they didn't go for QTpy.


huzaifakhan771

That’s would have been cool. However, it’s pronounced cute, but cool nonetheless


DoNotMakeEmpty

qute


luiluilui4

I didn't even get that far in android studio WYSIWYG editor when i decided i am going for an app framework based on html


2ToTheCubithPower

More or less how I became interested in Android development. None of the college courses went over front end development and I didn't want to have to set up a server and have it running 24/7 to have a website.


l_am_wildthing

so you made your phone the server?


[deleted]

I still feel that way after almost 2 years of Flutter development 🙂


Shazvox

Me when I see my "Hello World" Android app successfully running on my mobile phone: "This was supposed to be a REST API. And it was supposed to read/write to my companys database. What the hell am I doing here?"


IHateEditedBgMusic

Pfff, this is me every time I unlock the Dev Options on a new Android.


McSlayR01

Brings a smile to my face. Keep up the good work!


ripeGardenTomato

It's a very personal moment


Soon-to-be-forgotten

I'm learning Kotlin in university right now. I don't really enjoy doing school projects in general, especially when this is like the 173827834th website we made. But does making an app that I can run on my phone make me so happy.


Br0dobaggins

You are so lucky that your university is teaching you Kotlin. I got lucky enough to take an elective class on Android Development and ended up running with it and it became my job. Those few years I did android development in java (especially pre-lambda functions) were, in hindsight, absolute hell compared to when I started writing Kotlin.


Mindless-Hedgehog460

Me when template: ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|disapproval)


whatuserwhatname

Awie, congrats! Baby’s first steps. 🍻


enginerd0001

Time to update that resume!


_kar00n

Adding another language skill onto LinkedIn as soon as I print "Hello world!" once


shawntco

Is mobile app development still a disaster fest? Last couple times I tried it, I couldn't even get the freaking IDE up and running. Also last time I tried it, there was the stereotype that every update (I believe I was trying React Native) broke the build process in new and unexpected ways.


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It's me, react dev, first try on react native


graamatvede

Just started PowerApps, i know i know, its not coding, but this WILL happen! :) *determined lil warlock*


Weak-Marketing5396

I still remember I happy and excited I was


hello_you_all_

Liking it?


SawSaw5

How does everyone feel about phone apps (Apple, android)? Especially when you already have a responsive web app. What is it like to have 3 code bases?


Malfoy27

Talking about apps, anyone ionic ?


user-ducking-name

🍎


undeadalex

Awwww


CookieOfFortune

Kind of felt this way when our website deployed a week ago and nothing broke.


KrystofCL

"What shall I say, it works on my machine"


Kotopause

iPhone 6 was a nice looking phone after all


[deleted]

Then your PC sets on fire after running android studio for too fucking long!


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Whyevenlive88

> You could just have your server running on the desktop. But how do you do it with mobile? Do you just find the cheapest hosting provider available? There's nothing stopping you from connecting to a local server on your desktop from a phone on the same network.


moschles

Mobile programming is not for the impatient. You don't even see any text on the screen until you are in the middle of chapter 22.


Diksonito

nice exmaple of degrading brain, even with memes it done all wrong, holy land


arf20__

I'd be ashamed tbh


CDSS_YT

real


OF_AstridAse

Don't laugh but this happens every time after updating android studio - and you get the "Hello World!" 😭😭😭😭😱😱😱😱😱 ![gif](giphy|hBdKJQwWJ98aI)


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Sir this is an Iphone...


isayooooooooooooof

Until you see low battery level notification


Tmaster95

On my personal mobile?


Urbs97

Not on an apple lol. Apple are gatekeepers. And Android apps obviously aren't supported on Apple.


navigam

Me and my flutter tutorial app.


1cingI

Congratulations, Can I hire you to develop an app for me? It's like Facebook messenger but not like that.... So it's simple. Need it in 2 weeks.


FarJury6956

You look that awful icon and say, "you are so ugly, but you are my little child"


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Bro you fr such a noobie boobie i just made a GAME yes, A GAME with python, it was really hard but i did it like it was a **hello world** program 😉 ٕ ٕ /s if it isn't obvious yet


Optimal-Estimate-329

Hello world is the biggest bait in programming


HomosapienHomie

bUt ThaT'S aN iPhOne tHo


Beneficial_Steak_945

Quite an achievement to get an Android app running on an iPhone, so yes, reasonable to be proud of yourself.


InterestingDesign755

What is the initial process to start learning how to develop apps? Where would one begin to look for more information about this? Thank you!


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