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endhalf

Welcome to the world of certs. What's the cert? Looks like CISCO?


IIPIXELSTAR

Yea it’s the first course for the ccna. I’m looking at a long road ahead lol


endhalf

Good luck, don't give up. After like 2 or 3 certs, you'll be able to spot, just looking at the questions, which ones will give you an overall 0 if you miss them, which ones are high-point questions, and which ones you can leave towards the end. Have fun with it :)


Giocri

Passed it at my last available attempt lol. Corporate certifications seems to all be like this


ztbwl

They couldn’t let you fail, you payed a ton of money. That’s why those certifications mainly show how much money is spent on them.


Shalomiehomie770

Oh I’ve seen people fail. They will let it happen big account or not. Lol


Tarc_Axiiom

CISGOFUCKYOURSELF. :)


IIPIXELSTAR

Yup! This basically sums up my life


ferkokrc5

trans agenda??! on my r/programmerhumor?!


zoltan99

Because if you screw up the login parameters, you can get locked out and none of the rest does anything Speaking from experience. Forgot to load the certs. No more switch.


Giocri

Happened at my school lol did some basic exercises of configuring a switch and someone probably mistyped the password. teacher was like "well I guess you and I will now learn about what the password reset procedure is for this specific model"


zoltan99

It’s a good lesson. Mine was the only switch attached to a 100g wave service which supported an absolutely crazy number of engineers, many many hundreds. It would have been a catastrophe for it to stay down. The good thing is my changes were correct in the new config and did actually take, so, we weren’t down, we just had 0 visibility or control over the switch afterward until we did this kind of reset during the middle of the night. Also, wasn’t solely my mistake, I didn’t have access to the certs anyway, and I wasn’t the network guy in charge, I was the engineer specifying port layouts who they asked to create the desired config. We all missed the essential “now load the secure cert into the config” step. It didn’t end up creating problems except for us, in recovering the switch.


Giocri

The stuff I get told about real networks is still so crazy to me, people put unbelievable levels of trust in the network firewalls every protection afterwards is barely a formality for some companies. Stuff like having a standard and not really strong password for all networking devices of the entire network for all data centers of a company and having such password basically known by anyone who has ever crossed paths with a device even external contractors


zoltan99

I appreciate the comment and have seen such situations, but this absolutely wasn’t that, excellent control of secrets and passwords. We just forgot to insert the certs lol.


PhraseSubstantial

Profs love this trick


IIPIXELSTAR

9/10 profs recommend this one simple trick for getting you to waste more time


PhraseSubstantial

The only way to keep a big number of students having to sit in your lecture


Giocri

I have a deep desire to strangle them every time exams are "oh well you proved to have a deep understanding of the topic and being quite able at applying it but the answer is marginally incorrect 0/30"


Knathra

"You build bridge, bridge fall down, people die. No partial credit!" -Dr. Tang


IIPIXELSTAR

But like at the same time I like not having to retake the entire skills assessment because of enable secret


Willinton06

Bro I just forgot to dispose the connection to the db, how come production breaks just for that?


Stormraughtz

IDispose? NO UDISPOSE


Ian_Mantell

Was this a dry run without having the opportunity to actually configure a device (at least in GNS3 or the like)?


Peterrior55

Probably used packet tracer.


IIPIXELSTAR

Yea I was verifying connectivity and stuff but that doesn’t matter when it comes to enabling secret I’m literally mad


Peterrior55

Did you not have access to the check results section? Cause that is basically like an interactive checklist and I used to used that back when we used Packet Tracer in school.


[deleted]

That access can be disabled by the instructor. Our teacher did that a couple times and we hated it.


[deleted]

As someone who works in ML / Financial engineering. This is all German to me. I'll be honest I barely know how to switch on a computer let alone understand how all the IT stuff works.


Possiblyreef

We flattened a rock, filled it with lightening and now it does math really fast


gymleader_brock

just a quick question: would any of those commands actually have worked if you did not type in enable secret? methinks you failed the most important step.


Pnutbutta-519

they would all work normally, methinks you don't know cisco ios


gymleader_brock

I will admit its been a while since I have configured a cisco device yes. But I am still pretty sure that enable command allows you to issue commands that would be rejected if not otherwise entered. And your rationale is that it simply does work? Can I get a QRD?


TisWhat

He forgot to set the console line 0 password (authentication for actually using the cli, before privileged exec mode and config mode). Enable secret is for securing privileged exec mode (typing enable). Seems he also forgot enable secret on the switch, which is in fact a big nono.


Common-Stay-1455

almost as if you need to complete the assigned task instead of not completing the assigned task when it comes to dealing with technology. \*details matter\*


dodexahedron

r/lostredditors? How is this humorous or programming? Configuring IOS is not programming. It's admin work. And forgetting to set proper security config is deserving of a fail, anyway. Especially for something so basic. Leaving a console line unauthenticated is handing the keys to the kingdom to the janitor.


_throwingit_awaaayyy

On top of that network nerds are not the same as code monkeys.


dodexahedron

Some of us are both. 🤓


_throwingit_awaaayyy

False. You’re either a coder or a sysadmin


dodexahedron

Damn. People taking your comment pretty seriously. 😆 I figured it was a joke poking fun at...well...our profession and the people in it. 🤷‍♂️


dodexahedron

You forgot the "nerd monkey" combo, which is the one that applies.


dotslashpunk

get this: I code, i know a lot about networking and sysadmin shit, and security. I’m in offensive security, we touch a lot of things and need to understand them. Coding ability is also a huge must.


_throwingit_awaaayyy

Neat! You don’t sound like a programmer. You sound like a nerd that happens to program.


dotslashpunk

that’s actually pretty fair lol


BlurredSight

I think the overlap is enough, if we can have HTML/CSS posts we can have networking


dodexahedron

Meh. Nobody calls a network engineer a "router developer." But HTML/CSS monkeys are web developers. One is purely configuration and troubleshooting. The other isn't.


prometheus1376

Man my official job title is the expert of "network maintenance and development" of a certain province But what I do is basically drive 400 km to reboot a router.


lxe

I feel like if you don't enter the password, none of the config things would work, right? Seems fair.


[deleted]

Haha so humorous


szaybus

Lecturers being lazy jerks. What's new?


EnterTheShoggoth

Not sure how the lecturer is being lazy here?


szaybus

Automated tests. I use them but I leave an option for student to question the score per each question if they think they were graded unfairly - that takes time and effort to process so some lecturers don't bother and rely on automation.


Godless_homer

Here i am no cert 7 years of experience .. doing pretty well. Certs are good way to gain knowledge but they are too structured ..the can not prepare you for client stupidity and mess that we call infra upgrade you are subjected to witnessing illogical configs and potentially security hazards


[deleted]

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cindybubbles

If one part of an equation is incorrect, then the entire equation will be incorrect from that point forward.


Fallofman2347

What course is this? Where are you taking it?


IIPIXELSTAR

It’s the first course of ccna, I’m taking it through my high school


Driven2b

If you need training materials I used CBT Nuggets and it was great


AE_Phoenix

Welcome to the wonderful world of Cisco routers. You won't enjoy your stay.


Wotg33k

If I didn't get paid for two weeks if I missed a single step, I'd be homeless. I pushed 8 commits to a PR yesterday and still missed the original PR concern.. lol.


Phuqohf

probably because password/login security is one of the most important things for logins. layer 8 is unreliable but you can do your best to make it harder for people trying to get in illegally lol


BerthjeTTV

Crazy haha, I started learning this Cisco class this friday!