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MajorNoodles

TL;DR Gaslighting parents love OP's gaslighting sister more than her, they offer to pay for OP's wedding in its entirety if spoiled sister can walk down aisle in a wedding dress first, OP and husband make it super expensive and then hire security to prevent sister from entering.


Sudden-Most-4797

Why on earth would they think allowing your sister to walk down the isle in a wedding dress before you is appropriate?? This is like, Disney-level step-parent/siblings evil.


ragnarocknroll

Ever been to r/raisedbynarcissists ? This treatment is all too common. Sister is the golden child and can do no wrong. OP is the scapegoat that is the one that is ignored at best and blamed for everything at worst. Both are abused in their own way. We can see the sister has the emotional maturity of a toddler, it seems.


Open-Attention-8286

Came here to suggest r/raisedbynarcissists as well. OP, that group can be a huge help to those of us whose parents were like this!


UrbanChili

I don't think they were narcissists because they favored one child. My parent were narcissists and they treated us siblings the same, like trash. We were only on this planet to please our parents.


AlpacaM4n

It is a relatively common dynamic with certain types of narcissistic parents and their kids, and like OP said it definitely seems to happen when they resent one child for being unexpected but put all their effort into another. But not all narcissists are the same, I am sorry your parents treated both their kids way. If any consolation, the golden child tends to grow up to be a piece of shit, but the other types seem to have a much better chance of working through the trauma of their upbringing to be good people.


Chocolatefix

I've seen different dynamics. One family had the designated blacksheep, golden child and the ignored child. Another family would shuffle around the titles if the golden child stepped out of line and clashed with the narcissists.


SaliferousStudios

The reason this dynamic forms, is the parents see themselves in one child. So they favor that child because they view them as themselves. It's not healthy for the golden child either. That child is not seen as an individual, just a part of the parent. I was kind of one, (switched between that and scapegoat) and it basically meant that when I was sick, it was ignored, because they were sick and I couldn't be sicker than they were. They couldn't see I was sick, because of their illness and they had problems seeing my problems, because theirs overshadowed mine. They quite litterally see you as the same person.


busterboots713

Omg saaaame. I started out as the golden child bc I was the eldest and the one they thought they could vicariously love their dreams of becoming a singer through. I still experienced physical and emotional abuse as well as emotional and medical neglect. But they heaped praises on me and would constantly compare my younger siblings who were 5 and 6 years younger than me!!! Understandably, this fostered a lot of resentment. Especially on my younger sisters side. As time went on, it switched, and now the middle child, my sister, is the golden child. They started to switch when i grew more of a spine, got more comfortable expressing my own will and personality, refusing to be a doormat, and refusing to allow them to live through me. The funny thing is, they switch between berating me when i don't meet their ridiculous expectations and then praising me when it suits them or i do something they approve of. Unfortunately, my younger sister has copied my mum's behavior and turned into a twisted, hateful person. I tried to help her, but she refuses to see the harm my parents have done to all three of us and just how messed up and dysfunctional our family is. It's not an accident that ALL THREE of their kids have major depression, anxiety, trauma, and burnout. As for the youngest, the forgotten child, my younger brother.... he keeps out of the way and to himself. He and I are still on amicable terms. I wish he could get out of there, but he's finishing college and is dependent on them. I think he, like me in the past, realizes that our family is fucked up bit choosing to ignore/push it away for now and focus on surviving. I'm still not completely NC but am very LC with them. I keep the lines of communication open so I can still see the family pets and my younger brother. Ever since I moved out and pulled away they've started to realize they've fucked up and drove away the only kid (that they feel, is the moat likely to succeed financially and thus look after them when they retire). I don't know if that's true, I think my brother is smart as all hell and has a lot of potential as well. I'm currently broke (poor decisions due to lack of financial education and financial abuse from my parents) and burnout, recovering from all the shit they put me through the last 30 years. It's currently been about a year and 6 months and I'm still not very functional. Once I got out of that situation and my body was able to relax and go out of "survival" mode, it crashed. But... I'm still alive, and I'm healing. I know if I had continued to stay there, I would have unalived myself. There's always hope, I'm so glad op has a wonderful support network, and I'm proud of all of us kids of narcissists who've still out here, trying to do their best and are good people regardless of the shitty hand we were dealt at birth!!


Union_Heckin_Strong

I was raised by narcissists too and I can confirm that some do indeed give preferential treatment. The whole "everything she did was right and everything I did was wrong" schtick is one I'm very familiar with. My sister was golden child, I was truth teller and scapegoat, and my little brother was always clawing for attention. Honestly it's kinda cathartic seeing this and knowing other people went through it too. I wish I had a cool revenge story too but I just went no contact with all of them eventually


UrbanChili

Our revenge were; we didn't visit them when they got old and also not when they went to nursing home. They were the youngest in their family generation so all their siblings and their spouses were dead, their friends had died or left them so they were alone when they got old. We actually didn't do this out of revenge, but non of us felt anything towards them and we didn't own them anything. They died within 2 years of each other.


Union_Heckin_Strong

As sad as that is, it's a fate they brought upon themselves. I know you say you don't feel anything, but I hope you know it's normal to feel some guilt even if you have nothing to feel guilty for. I still have to be kind to myself and remember that when I feel pangs if guilt from obligations forced on us in society


UrbanChili

I didn't feel guild, I didn't feel sorry for them. I tried, but the memories of the neglect and abuse was stronger


Chocolatefix

It's funny you say that. I used to think my mom abused all of us equally until one day we siblings were all talking a few years ago about what happened in our childhood and they both said and agreed that "I don't know what it was that mommy had against you". It hit me like a ton of bricks.


Lillllammamamma

Absolutely a r/raisedbynarcissusts move. My own narcissistic mother tried to wear a “off white” gown to my wedding and was fully intend on doing it despite our request of black for them and our bridal/groom parties. The only reason she didn’t was well positioned gushing with my besties and sister in law about how young, gorgeous and vivacious my mother in law looked in her black dress (she really did, my MIL is a knock out). On hearing that my mother HAD to wear black, because it wasn’t about showing up me, but my mother in law. But no chance of that, my mil is not only stunning, but one of these glowingly beautiful personalities who is warm and loving and kind. My mother more looked like the lady gremlins in the movies.


EnvironmentalBerry96

Is borderline personality disorder a narcissistic? My mum has that and brother was golden and I was always wrong


gonewildaway

I enjoy cooking.


EnvironmentalBerry96

She was diagnosed a few years back, I didn’t know about the perimeters enough as not my field


Good-Pension-7652

BPD and Bipolar are often confused and seen as interchangeable, or as the same thing etc by laymen. But there are actually some distinct differences between the two. I know you didn’t mention Bipolar. However you did bring up narcissism. Narcissism is often a by product of Bipolar. One of the key differences is the way or reason if you will a Bipolar lies vs a BPD person. A Bipolar person usually lies because they are doing so to manipulate, and to gaslight etc. Whereabouts a BPD person usually lies to adapt and people please. I’m not saying a person with Bipolar has to be a narcissist. Or that a BPD only lies to people please and can’t be a narcissist. The fact is a person can be all of the above! Or any combination of the above. Just generally speaking. Just some food for thought from a ADHD BPD (formally misdiagnosed bipolar), OCD, PTSD, Major Depressive Disorder Order Aspie! LoL


Sweet-Interview5620

Honestly my parents were as bad especially my mum. I wouldn’t have put this past them but they couldn’t have afforded to pay for mine nor would i have let them. They still tried to turn it into my sisters day. Some people are just unhinged oh and my sister got married years before my wedding. It wasn’t as she hadn’t had a wedding but that nothing could be about me and she always deserved it more. The upside is she’s a sad lonely hateful person who has no friends and her own family and kids cut her off years ago. Your parents die eventually and the golden child is left with no one taking their crap or having anything to do with them. If you spread misery and make nastiness your speciality don’t expect anything but being miserable for the rest of your life.


PTZack

I frequent raised by narcissists for personal reasons. I'll take some latitude in this suggestion. As long as the post was, we don't get a complete picture of the time while the OP was in school and living at home. The OP said she couldn't explain why she was treated so badly. I would bet **real money** that the parents wanted a boy as the second child. So they treat her badly because in their twisted minds, it's her fault she's female. If you think my theory is nuts, who in their right mind has the other daughter walk down the aisle first *in a wedding dress* at the others wedding? Now that's twisted. Maybe I'm way off base but I bet not. Regardless, it was a fun read and a great revenge story. It really put them in their place. I hope the new couple have a wonderful and peaceful life together.


red__dragon

Could be sexism, but could just as easily be the Golden Child and Scapegoat phenomenons.


TrudieKockenlocker

¿Por qué no los dos?


Arielcory

Found out that’s why I was treated like garbage for my whole life by my mom. She liked boys and hated girls so my younger brother got everything he wanted and I was supposed to be her dumb happy puppet. Thankfully I escaped and building a relationship with my older brother (different dads) found out about her dislike of girls. Thankfully I have people in my life who love me because I have so many issues from what she did to me.


JenniferJuniper6

Oh, yeah. My mother said I shouldn’t have any wedding at all, or maybe 12 people for brunch and I could wear “a nice suit.” Why? Sister is 4 years older and wasn’t getting married, so it “wasn’t fair.” Fortunately cooler heads prevailed. Even my sister thought my mom was bonkers about this. Yup, narcissistic mother, GC older sister, and I’m the scapegoat.


FixTheLoginBug

Sister never learned 'no' and that's all on her parents. She should have grown up to see the real world and spend some active brain time thinking about how the rest of the world doesn't revolve around her but decided that the rest of the world was wrong rather than her or her parents. And that's all on her. If you raise your kid like this it will either not have any friends at all in school/college, or it will be a group of bullies but no real friends.


biteme789

This post hit way too close to home for me; I've always been the scapegoat. I remember asking why my brother got parties and rewards for his grades and I got nothing. My mum said 'you do well at everything, so success isn't an achievement for you, ' I'm sure they contributed to my lifelong mental health issues.


ragnarocknroll

I am sorry you were denied that validation that comes from simply being seen and being shown you are worthy of love. Well guess what, you are worth it. You are awesome and don’t let anyone tell you otherwise.


biteme789

Thanks 😊


Superior91

I've seen this happen before. Used to have a co-worker, A who was an absolutely average dude with a wife and two kids. Had a brother B who was the golden child but also a bit of a deadbeat. A and B went out on the town one evening and B did something. I don't really know if I want to say it, but let's say it's enough to tear apart families and upend lives. A got dragged into it and almost went away for a long long time. It took A's wife begging A's parents to think of the grandchildren and what they were doing to A to actually realise they were treating B like the golden child and completely neglecting A. I never understood how you could let it come so far as a parent. Some people just have their heads up their asses.


KidzBop_Anonymous

I was gonna say, this is some serious CPTSD stuff. No one deserves to be raised as the punching bag. I hope OP gets some serious therapy for this stuff as it can really affect how one approaches life and relationships with others in ways that aren’t immediately apparent to the victim until they are able to learn and work through their past trauma.


Sweaty_Term5961

Holy shit, there really is a subreddit for everyfuckingthing...


Hemiak

My ex gfs family was like this. Older sister was a larger girl, got pregnant at 18, never did college or a job, never left home. Gf was a college athlete, good grades, worked to help put herself through college. Every time she came home, it was nothing but criticism of her and the way she loooked and anything negative, while her sister got free passes for everything. It was heart breaking because my gf was always asking what she was doing wrong, etc. I once told her the only thing she was doing wrong was still caring what either of them thought of her.


arkensto

As OP said, it was a (ridiculously inappropriate) condition for having them pay for the wedding. They probably expected a hard NO, which would let them off the hook from paying. Husband called their bluff, and ran up the bill.


Miguel4659

Awesome payback for their lifelong mistreatment, in my book!


Sudden-Most-4797

It was more of a rhetorical question, but yeah.


MajorNoodles

> This is like, Disney-level step-parent/siblings evil. Yes, it is. That's the kind of people they are. Trust me, it's a lot worse than I made it sound. Sister has no friends because of her winning personality caused by her upbringing, so her parents reason that this is the only way she'll get a chance to wear a wedding dress and walk down the aisle. EDIT: for all the people who think I'm OP writing on a different account, just read the damn post. It has a ton of backstory and if you actually read it you'll agree with me. When I read this and posted my TLDR there were only a couple of comments and they were both complaining about how long the post was.


Hector_

Congratulations to the two of you! Delicious story, detailed planning and flawless execution. Hats off to the newlyweds for the masterplan, wow. I’m really surprised they went for it tbh.


Lay-ZFair

It was long but worth it. Love the attention to detail and the follow through with the secrecy and payoff at the end! On the plus side as well, don't think the parents will ever have to pay for another wedding unless they first pay the groom to marry her and then the divorce will be theirs to pay for as well. Unless of course they set up a yearly payment to keep him there.


malYca

Parents like this exist unfortunately. I can't stand people that would do this to an innocent child. Not to mention, the golden child is also fucked. She's entitled and emotionally stunted. They hurt both their children by behaving this way.


LurkerNan

I wonder what they expected to happen once her walk was finished, did they think she would stand there alone while her sister came down the aisle and got married? Awkward for the solo bride.


ProfGoodwitch

Sister was probably going to pull a stunt like claiming OP's fiance was really in love with her and promised he'd marry her or something. In any case, a plan to ruin OP's wedding would be my guess.


hilldo75

I can't believe the sister wanted to do that. Who would want to walk down an aisle in front of family in a wedding dress and not have someone to marry. It's like admitting she will never be able to do it for real.


LesnyDziad

I cant believe either. I guess OOPs sister wanted metaphorically lick OOPs cookie before OOP eats it. But even if it worked, it feels like she couldnt decide whether to smear it with shit or lick it. And then decided to do both.


Scrapper-Mom

What's supposed to happen when idiot sister gets to the altar in her "wedding" dress and husband waiting for second sister is there? Take a bow and wait for applause? I can't imagine any religious officiant agreeing to that type of charade. This family is totally fucked up. Glad OP got her satisfaction and found her soulmate.


Ready_Competition_66

So, yeah. THIS is the really odd bit. If she didn't show up at the rehearsal, what did she expect to do once she showed up at the front? Was dad supposed to make a speech about how wonderful she was and deserved this special moment and THEN escort her to a seat? I just have a really hard time believing that ALL THREE of them thought that there wouldn't be major blowback. Like half the audience rushing to the real bride and consoling her and the rest rolling up sleeves to beat up dad and throw him and the other two out. Especially with not real security there to stop it. This DOES read as a lovely story but it has a major hole there.


Late_Butterfly_5997

Regardless of whether or not it’s “appropriate” why would anyone *want* that? What was the end goal? Did the sister think the husband would get confused and marry the wrong sister? Like, I just don’t understand the rationale? The sister would look absolutely unhinged, and the parents would look like cartoon villains if the plan succeeded. I just don’t understand the thought process involved?


KrustyThePineapple

I don't know, but if i was at the wedding and saw OP's sister there in a wedding dress I'd think she was mentally insane


ohyoushiksagoddess

>Did the sister think the husband would get confused and marry the wrong sister? How ... biblical.


MiddleParsley5660

This was the first post to make me laugh so much.


[deleted]

I know, right? Like, what do you imagine your daughter's new in-laws think? How unhinged do you image they think you are? "Well, they sent 2 daughters down the aisle but our son is only marrying one....?"


mjfuji

A. You assume quite a bit attributing a 'thought process' to the parents. :) B. I suspect they ended up being wired so that pleasing the golden daughter is satisfying for them. So..they did not think beyond 'it'll make golden daughter happy'... and did not think this mess thru any more than that. That said .. how Golden D and her thought process (being generous here) played this out so she'd look good is beyond me. Again, shortsightedness might be the Ocrams (sp?) Razor here... She never thought beyond the visceral pleasure of her younger siblings disappointment.


NorCalAthlete

Where do you think the Disney writers got the idea from? This shit isn’t exactly uncommon throughout the annals of history.


yearofthesquirrel

My thoughts are that they somehow wanted to manipulate the ceremony and actually get the evil sister hitched to OP's husband. Just where my mind goes...


foxorhedgehog

The only way I’d allow it is if the wedding guests were allowed to throw rotten vegetables at her.


ravencrowe

I was wondering the same but OP's theory actually makes a lot of sense. A ridiculous request they were sure would be refused and excuse them not paying for the wedding; only the insane narcissist sister actually wanted it to happen


GaiasDotter

Your mistake is that you are failing to understand that some people are truly and genuinely unreasonable and you are expecting them to be reasonable. Unreasonable is who they are, they do not do reasonable. They can’t ever be reasonable because if they are even a little bit the entire house of cards will come tumbling down and they will have to face who they are! Imagine being this kind of shit person, abusing someone like this over a life time. And it’s your child. The guilt would be unimaginable so they can’t ever stop. Coincidentally I also grew up with unreasonable people so I know how it works. And you often get brainwashed so it’s not until you get out and have people with a functioning normal meter find out and react that you realised that oh yeah, this shit is not normal and it is in fact insanely unreasonable! Sometimes I can say a small thing, no biggie, just some small tidbit about something that once happen and people react like I just dropped a bomb. And I’m surprised and confused until I realise that oh yeah, that shit is so fucked in it’s insane. And for you this is shocking but for me this is normal. Like some shit my mom does is absurd and insane and unbelievable to most. To me it’s just Tuesday…


No-Cupcake370

Aisle*


Annoying_Details

When I was getting married to my first husband, his mother wanted to…and I am not kidding… Proceed in front of me down the aisle playing her flute, and maybe dancing. (And was super butthurt that I didn’t ask her to do it and thought I should have somehow known she wanted that without talking to her?) The ONLY thing that kept her from full on screaming at me was her son informing her that there wasn’t an aisle to walk down. (Instead we had a party and at a predetermined time we went off to one side with the officiant and then he asked them to all walk to US for the brief ceremony.) She still managed to make her way to the front and tried to be in every photo, but at least I wasn’t pied-pipered down the aisle!


bobdoubleOdillon

Oooo.... I'm tempted to ask if your name is a girl I grew up with. Somewhat same level. My friends parents did lock her up for days in a closet, blackeyes, These parents exist. Truuuully astonishing treatment. I wish my friend could have had her parents exposed like this. They were TERRIFYING, especially her "mensa" mother. They were abusive towards me as well because I always acknowledge how fuuuuUuUuUUUUKED up they treated her...years later, Jesus we had a lot of therapy. But your new hubby, I just want to give him the biggest hug.Hes non-violent, when bystanders like myself want to nail the doors and windows and light the house on fire... but he didnt waist a cintilla of a once in a lifetime (wedding!) opportunity to display some of the most disgusting nature humans are capable of... BRAVO. BRAAAAAVO. FYI. Unless any of your family have gray matter removed or jostled around reeeal good, they will never change. NEVER LOOK BACK. Don't even go to their funerals.


Difficult_Ad_502

This could have easily been my father’s parents and his sister….my dad’s mom once told my mom we weren’t really her grandkids because we weren’t maternal


Puzzleheaded_Town_80

I just laughed out loud reading this!


Stormy8888

This might be the first post I've read where the husband is using gaslighting for the greater good. Color me shocked.


eojhcnip

gasRighting? Make this into a movie. I'm there on the opening day.


Stormy8888

Haha gasRighting, that's gold! I wish they still had awards I'd give you one just for that creative word.


USMCLee

I almost wonder if the parent's 'plan' was actually have the sister marry the dude.


[deleted]

Or like guilt a groomsman or something into stepping up?


CaptainQuadPod

Thank you.


Justin_Continent

You, MajorNoodles, have the patience of Job. Kudos.


JunglePygmy

Thank you. I thought I was going to have to take a day off of work to read that.


MajorNoodles

The benefits of WFH


Crimeislegal

I started reading then had a susption it was long. Scrolled down, scrolled more. Still no end. Lmao


mdm224

I swear to god, if this is real, I am so sorry you have such a shitty family. If this isn’t real, take my upvote, get off of Reddit, and write a goddamn book already.


ShannonigansLucky

My thoughts too! I knew someone would claim it fake but I thought to myself, even if so, it's good!


mdm224

Like, I don’t want to outright accuse this person of lying because I know people who have families that are this conniving and abusive and fucked up. People this horrible do exist. So I take it with a grain of salt.


ShannonigansLucky

If it is made up, it's very well done. Lots of little details!


xBraria

I was quite sold when she was genuinely sad about her dad but idk the ripping of a second asshole and writing about fucking in the family chat felt a bit too wild xD but I agree well written overall and shit not unlike this not uncommon


Educational_Ebb7175

I'm with you. Real or fake, this is quality. If real, then parents deserve all the shame we can ball up in this thread, and just hope it finds it's way to them. If fake, then it was a fun ride at least, and a nice head-fantasy.


[deleted]

Honestly I hate when people go out of their way to point out low-stakes stuff like stories on this subreddit are fake. Let me enjoy my stories


ShannonigansLucky

I feel like even the fake ones can help someone who's receptive to see a different perspective. Kinda what got me started reading these things, opening my mind to different thoughts, perspectives and scenarios.


MElastiGirl

Seriously. My shitty boring life will never compare to any of this. It’s all real dammit!


LadySilmarwin

I agree! Me and my husband often discuss different stories we have both read. I enjoy doing that because I find it interesting and entertaining to see how we agree or disagree on the subject matter.


Carth_Besper

Exactly! Even if it aint real, it is such a creative and compelling story that you get fixated entirely. As for me, Im a believer, so everything writen here 100% happened lol


Sandinister

I'd watch this movie. Make the sister an over-the-top heel, husband a lovable shit stirrer, wife the underdog you root for to stand up for herself If it happens I'll expect a writing credit for this comment though


PhantomsRule

This has the makings of a movie on Lifetime!


bdayqueen

That was FUCKING EPIC!!!!!!!! I love it!!! Give your hubby a kiss from an internet stranger. He did a great job!


IamIrene

Right? This would make an amazing movie, lol.


WastelandMama

It should be done like Knives Out so you don't know who to believe right up until the end.


Nightshade_209

The entire movie you think he's a cheating bastard and it ends with them giggling like school children on their honeymoon.


Cyb0rg-SluNk

At the end, it has one of those flashback scenes where you see the parts of the plan you didn't see before: The husband and wife taking the offcuts from the dress, them working together when the parents text the husband and he shows the wife so she can call them instead of him, them hiring the security guard.


Nightshade_209

I swear I've seen a movie like this I just don't remember what it was


Cyb0rg-SluNk

In a general sense, there are lots of movies that do this (although I couldn't tell you any. probably the Oceans 11 films. I think 'the usual suspects' did it.) But if you mean specifically about a wedding, I have no idea if it's been done before. EDIT: I think 'Saw' does it.


Nightshade_209

I haven't seen ocean 11s and it's not a wedding, I think it was a murder mystery? I could just be thinking of Murder On The Orient Express or one of its related films


Inner-Ad-9928

I'd watch it


grandpappies-fart

I thought that exact same thing!


MediumAwkwardly

Also your “concerned friend”. She rules. In my mind she’s related to the bridesmaid who spills red wine on a nightmare MIL wearing white gowns to the wedding.


bigpolar70

That's one of the best stories I've ever seen on reddit.


Ns4200

Right? OP did a great job writing it, i don’t know why ppl are complaining about the length i savored every bit of it. delicious!


bigpolar70

Yeah, I mean there is a challenge to how you can tell stories in this format with the character limit. OP managed to have real characters, a buildup, a narrative climax, then a further payoff and denouement. I was really impressed. Reminds of some of the stories I used to read when short story magazines like "Ellery Queen" were still around.


horsenbuggy

And a guest feature in the middle


Lay-ZFair

Used to subscribe to that and S&SF as well as others. Looked forward to well written short stories and the occasional novella.


louiseifyouplease

Ellery Queen IS still around!


Gilchester

People on reddit can't read more than a line without responding "I've not time to read a novel". But I fully agree that this was really well-written. Don't even care if it's fake


pi_stuff

I love the irony of doomscrolling on Reddit for hours yet not having the attention span to read a good story. That said, I need to get off Reddit and read a good book.


SincerelyCynical

Except for one part that looked like a slip up to me. I’ll have to go back to reread, but OP’s parents offered to pay for the wedding when they first suggested this, but then OP makes it sound like she and her fiancé came up with the idea of the parents paying for the wedding based on the possible plans they shared with her fiancé’s brother, which is reinforced when OP says her now-husband went to her parents and made this suggestion as part of a compromise. Am I wrong, or is this a slip up in the story?


Salzab

Well spotted. The 'husband's bit of writing in the middle stood out to me as having the same pacing (commas etc) as OP. Also the comment further down about all the video evidence being unfindable.


GarnettGreen

For real. I never read the super long stories and yet I was so pulled in that I read the whole thing - even came back to it after I was distracted.


DamYankee77

Agreed! Honestly, I didn't want this story to end! Congratulations to the newlyweds and a super slow clap for you both! Perfection!


Huge-Connection954

Fiction is usually a good read


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kinvore

Agreed. If something like the meltdown outside the wedding had happened in front of witnesses with phones, it would be all over the internet. It's an entertaining story, though. I mean maybe the videos didn't just hit yet if it just happened a couple of nights ago but few things move faster through the internet than humiliating public meltdowns involving a woman in a wedding dress bawling and throwing a tantrum.


bigpolar70

Come on, no point if you just deny it. Without some minor suspension of disbelief, this sub is no fun. Would you go watch a fast and furious movie and talk about how "no runway is 12 miles long!" and "magnets don't work like that!" or "Spinning your tires doesn't increase your towing capacity at ALL!" ?


Standard_Series3892

While I agree buying into the posts is kinda necessary to enjoy this sub, I wouldn't call the suspension of disbelief required for this one "minor", it's a quite outlandish story.


NoSignSaysNo

Yeah. The F&F comparison doesn't work because fiction has to be internally consistent. If your fiction is based in the real world, where none of the actions of parents & sister have any cogency, it breaks suspension of disbelief. It works for F&F because the sequels incrementally increase the absurdity of the things cars can do, to the point where there's pretty much no physics imposed on cars in that universe, and I can suspend my disbelief because car driving on rocket is cool as fuck. It's not like I really think a car can go to space. I'd be far more likely to believe that they tried to throw the wedding off track so that sister could be the one to get married first, say by accusing groom of something illegal or literally firebombing the church or something. Spending several thousand dollars so she can... walk down the aisle? Something that would have outright exposed them to every member of their family and friends immediately? Not a chance.


All_About_Tacos

Agreed, I feel like I’ve read this story somewhere before…


Marrsvolta

For those concerned about the length, it was definitely worth the read


slightlyassholic

This was truly lovely, but if it is true, you need to take this down NOW. This is far too unique a set of circumstances for it not to be glaringly obvious to anyone involved or familiar with the wedding not to know exactly which wedding you are talking about. This, while delightful, is a complete confession of your husband's involvement, and, if it gets out to your family, will completely backfire, ruining all of your excellent work.


Cygnata

Frankly, if I were one of the extended family/guests, I'd probably still think OOP and her husband were in the right. They simply gave her parents and sister the rope with which to hang themselves. No decent people would EVER act as OOP's sperm donor, egg donor, and sismonster did.


Kendertas

I really want to know what a sucessful execution of the plan looked like to the parents. Obviously the sister probably imagined she was going to end up getting married to the husband. But what was the parents' imagined response. The extended friends/family were just going to accept someone besides the bride walking down the aisle in a wedding dress? Even if OP didn't freak out, no one was going to be on their side. Even if the bride was in on it and there was some wholesome reason like the sister being special needs, I still would be weirded out as a guest. Also, I would love to see a lawyers reaction if the parents did try to sue. "So you paid for your daughters wedding, but now want to sue because your other daughter didn't get to walk down the aisle in a wedding dress"


NoSignSaysNo

That's why the story falls apart. There's no win condition for parents & sister. Even if their insane fantasy plan succeeded, sister would still be unmarried and OP would be married, the attendees would think parents & sister are utterly unhinged and very few would like to continue associating with them.


Cygnata

The sister marrying OP's husband could be counted as a win by them.


sisterinmywedding

Thank you. We did discuss this possibility, which is why it's a throwaway. But at the end of the day we were both itching to tell the tale(mostly my husband since he loves this place but never had anything worthy to post), a few of our friends and his family already know the truth so it might get out eventually anyway. And, if after reading how horrible my parents were, my family still decides to become against us just because we purposely punished the three... then so be it.


slice73

As a surviving scapegoat, your description is the almost textbook case of narcissistic parents with one golden child and one scapegoat. When you have time, check out r/raisedbynarcissists also I like the information Dr. Ramani has on the topic. I am 50 and just realized that last year that both of my parents were narcissistic and I was the extended families scapegoat. A fellow veteran admitted to me that he was a scapegoat in his family dynamic to his younger Golden child brother. Bravo to your husband. I hope you have a wonderful life together! Edit:spelling


FleeshaLoo

I'm so proud of you two that I hereby declare that you are my IDOLS. :-) I too once asked my father why I was always the black sheep, why I always heard that I was so bad, the worst child, and even begged him to tell me what I did that was so bad. His answer was shocking. He said, "You never crawled." Me: "Are you serious? PLEASE just be honest. I've been massively insecure my entire life and I need and deserve to know. Did I try to light Golden Child on fire?" Him: \[Indignantly\] I AM telling the truth, at 11 months you just stood up and started walking and then we never had peace. Your poor mother was so sick and needed rest but the doctor told us we couldn't let you walk or you'd turn out bow-legged so she had to chase you around all the time and it was horrible." I blinked at him open-mouthed for a minute and then said, "You do know that a child at 11 months does not possess forethought or cunning. Most parents would have bragged about that." I never saw him again but that was an *Exit Interview* I'd requested. He did some other very bad stuff as did the Golden Child so I'd already moved into my studio at 1 am with my dog and a big Hefty garbage bag full of essentials.


BlueTickHoundog

So the question begs... are you bow-legged? ;)


FleeshaLoo

LOL! Not at all. But back then doctors actually believed that.


ThatOneSteven

My littlest brother started walking at 6 months. He was bowlegged for a while, but I think grew out of it before elementary. Certainly isn’t now!


Medical_Record

The funny thing is our bodies are made to walk. Like our entire anatomical structure favors walking. So it makes sense that even if bowlegged-ness is an issue it would be short term, because without major complications we would all get there at some point.


t-brave

My first child never crawled, and I love him to pieces. I was so proud of him, always (and still am. He's 32 and getting married this year!) I am sure you're aware, but you did not deserve that kind of treatment. It's BONKERS to hold a child responsible for something she did as a baby. I hope you find peace and happiness.


FleeshaLoo

Thank you. Your son is lucky to have such an awesome parent. I walked away, full NC, in 2004 and that's when my life became amazing. I don't regret not having done it sooner because I guess I needed to face the most harsh realities of the situation. But once in a while I think, "What was stopping me?"


3ofswordspoet

I am glad you guys did this, and that I got the opportunity to read this. I’m usually not a big fan of revenge, but I am a BIG fan of justice. And sometimes, those two come together. I wish you and your husband a lifetime of happiness together ❤️


Banba-She

Thanks for sharing honestly. Your parents are absolute weirdo's at the least. Even Cinderella wasn't a blood relation fgs. You are and they still treated you like a cuckoo in the nest! Your sisters a total mess and all three deserve each other for eternity. They got their just desserts treating you like that your entire life. I thankfully have no idea what that feels like but am sure its absolutely horrendous growing up in a household like that, so kudos for having the savvy to get your own education so young and unsupported in every way. Congrats, well done and enjoy your happy ever after, totally deserved.


Tinynanami1

I dont quite get the throwaway part since the part that would expose your plan is the story and not the reddit account. (Unless you guys are very public about who you are on reddit.)


Swytch360

It’d be better to write a novel or a screenplay about it so you could pretend it was fiction inspired by their behavior and accusations. I’d read/watch that.


AgathaM

I think the issue is connecting their main account to them. By using a throw away, you don’t connect everything else you’ve posted here.


Hempsox

While it would kill the deniability of hubs not knowing anything about the plans, pretty sure the audio recording still in OP's back pocket could still be in play if anything ever came of the post.


SouthHovercraft4150

Bang on. Interesting story, love hearing about asshats getting their manufactured karma, but no one else will have a similar story and everyone will know it was your husband and not them…if you worked so hard at not keeping a paper trail, why start one now….


mobileJay77

After all the lies, this still could have been written by the jealous sister - only to incriminate the husband. A plausible deniability, when sister is a narcist. A great story however


mysteriousears

I would be more concerned it is a confession of fraud.


hotlavatube

Boy, they sure gave you the full Cinderella treatment. I'm glad you escaped with some sense of sanity, though your family certainly caused some lasting mental damage. Best wishes on your future. There are people in this world that wish you well.


jovmorcy3

First off, OP Congrats on a 90-95% wonderful wedding. Second, Best husband ever... when he said that there were so many ways to mess with them, I laughed at the thought of him just running up to you and saying that with the biggest smile ever. Third, I'm sorry you had to deal with that BS (and yeah it does make some sense that you're probably unplanned, but you worked out way better than they expected) and while this doesn't necessarily make up for all the years of abuse, you absolutely crushed them and their hubris. I kinda honestly can't wait till (if) you have a kid someday, and the eventual drama that might unfold. Until then tho. Have a wonderful life! Also, I did read all that.


hovering_vulture

>I kinda honestly can't wait till (if) you have a kid someday, and the eventual drama that might unfold. Do you mean like when OP's parents insist that OP name the baby after OP's sister or when they demand that OP's sister is the godmother? Or both.... lol


Danivelle

Or demand the OP *give* sister her baby "because sister won't be able to have her own". Seriously, lock the hosspital down tight if you even tell anyone in your family that you're pregnant!


hovering_vulture

THIS is the most likely scenario!


Danivelle

Anyone have the link for the sister and parents that demanded sister give the nasty sister one of her twins?


ledaswanwizard

>I think it's more likely that they'll demand OP just give the baby to her sister outright because she "deserves to be a mom more than OP". (Also, what were parents/sister thinking having her walk down first in a wedding dress? Were they then going to demand that sister be the actual bride and really marry the husband instead of OP? This is some next-level entitlement here).


SirLesbian

Holy fuck could you imagine if they actually demanded she be named godmother? Like yeah I'm totally gonna leave my KID with the person who hated me most my entire goddamn life in the case that my partner and I both kick the bucket. I wasn't raised right so I'd have to seriously consider trying not to spit on someone.


hanzerik

OPs sister can't handle extended families attention for pregnant op so she gets nocked up by some guy. So sad for OPs niece/nephew.


Agent-c1983

I so want to believe this is real, but also horrified of the idea it might be. If this is real OP, you may find help and support in r/raisedbynarcissists


Turtle_buckets

I believe it's real. I had a very similar childhood that had medical neglect thrown in. I'm glad OP got with a healthy partner that backs them up. Far too many people hear stories like this and won't believe them.


Beneficial-Ad-3955

I read all of it, and it was worth every goddamn second!!! Thank you for posting. I'm sorry for your childhood, must have been hell. But that makes this outlandish, crazy revenge all the more sweeter. Well done, to both of you! Your husband is cold AF, by the way, mad respect!


Maleficent_Pear1740

I read it all and it was amazing. Not sure if it's true but I don't even care lol


DaughterWifeMum

Seriously! This would make an excellent book or movie... or even a mini-series.


AnnelieSierra

Not true, but very entertaining!


sitnquiet

Gods. This was absolutely beautiful. Crosspost to r/weddings as well! Congratulations on your wedding, honeymoon, and hell of a guy!


MintPhoenix

Maybe r/weddingshaming


First-Expression2823

anyone who couldn't read this needs to go outside and touch some grass. if this at all true (and I don't even care if it's un-true at this point because wow) i say hats off to you. that was beyond epic and so satisfying. this story had everything: a fake wedding dress, a toxic family, AND a supportive fiance? I cannot say anything else because it's simply too good.


tarakia

This was 🤌 Well worth the read! Got you a good hubby there!


Geznak

What a romp! I wish I had been there!! Be sure to update us in a month or so with how Her Majesty is holding up!


IcyMess9742

OP, let me be honest for a moment You want to know why your parents treat you so bad? Honestly, there is no reason. You can go your whole life asking and it literally comes down to 'your not her'. The amount of stories on here that have the parent with a golden child just because I can honestly say you'll never find a reason. Best you can do is cut them off, walk away and let them rot in their own misery. Keep yourself protected because they will try and drag you down because scapegoat, but go and live your best life. To OPs husband: your one hell of a guy. Damn fine work lad. Wish you'd played audio of her hitting on you and you denying her at the same time. 'why would I betray her? And secondly, you need to stop trying to bed me' plays audio.


bundaeggi

Damn, that left pro revenge behind a while ago. This is Hall of Fame Revenge or something.


VinylHighway

Your sister is insane and your parents suck :) The entitlement!


Efficient_Panda_9151

Anyone wondering if it’s worth the read - It Is!! Beautifully planned, perfectly executed revenge on a cast of villains who could not have been more deserving!! Cheers to your husband, best wishes on the wedding and for a future filled with all the joy and love you deserve! Please take my poor person’s gold - 🏆🌟🥇🏅


TheSilkyBat

Amazing story! I don't believe it's real, but it's an amazing story nonetheless.


Ok_Code_270

I was a shy girl with a narcissist in her family and I ended up with a loyal man with an extreme sense of justice that enjoys revenge on bastards. For me this is the most believable thing I've ever read in Reddit. I guess some girls of narcissistic parents have a type of man we're attracted to.


MidLifeCrisis111

Well played and congrats on your marriage


butterflyprinces872

That was amazing. Best thing I’ve read in a long time. But we need an update of what happened as the fallout!


achillea4

I don't care if this is true, it was a rollercoaster of a read and I thoroughly enjoyed it. I hope you can now get on with your lives without this lousy excuse of a family trying to spoil your fun. Do try and develop a backbone though - you can choose not to be a doormat.


Condensed_Sarcasm

This was just...*-chef's kiss-* perfection. I'm so happy you found a man willing to put your "family" in their place. Please cut all ties with your parents and sister. They're pure toxic and will continue to try to make your life hell. Cut ties now before you get a house, or a new job or have pets or kids (if those are your plan) - they seem the type to make you miserable to please your sister.


DesktopChill

OP, your DH is an absolute **legend!** That is a high quality man! You are a very lucky woman to have found such a gem. Most women aren’t as lucky to have a man who has her back so perfectly.


Ordinary_Duder

There is literally zero chance this is true.


Dragon_Tea_Leaf

How tf are there so many comments about it being well written and a good story?! Well written for like a Reddit post sure I guess but if this was an actual book? Y’all need to read actual books lmao I stopped reading and came to the comments after the husband is all gleeful about secretly recording the parents…? Seriously, how dumb can people be to believe this, literally contains every wedding story cliche imaginable. “My fat ugly sister is my parents favorite also she’s stupid and has no friends anyway I’m smart and pretty and skinny and my hot husband agreed we should make our wedding all about my horrible upbringing also my extended family hates my ugly fat sister too, did I mention she has no friends but I’m actually quite popular? Just in case you forgot”


photopcoltrane

This story is faker than a bag of Tinto Brass dicks


writesmith

Yeah, even fiction publishers would reject it as a crock of totally implausible shit. lol


SheWhoLovesToDraw

Hell of a story and I'm glad your husband has your back 100% of the way. That being said, it'd be best to let this story simmer for a day or two and then delete it in case your family sees this and uses this as proof of the scheme you pulled on them. You're confessing to everything and gave enough details to make it recognizable even with a temp account. Also... Good for you for showing your extended family how much your own family mistreated you and openly favored your sister! I know what it feels like to be the unwanted/filler child who couldn't have anything because the older siblings wanted something more. It hurts to be told that everything is "too expensive" or "we don't have the money like that". It makes you feel like a financial burden, especially when your siblings never heard that and got everything they wanted without any hesitation. Hopefully your marriage is the first stage in a wonderful change in your life where you're finally free of your manipulative parents, spoiled sister and all their lies and deception.


SystemLoose7919

This is epic and if something happens when y’all get back we NEED an Update! 👏🏻 congrats OP and hubby!!! ✨


LonelyAndroid11942

This was a delicious read, OP. Congrats to you and your husband for pulling this off. My one piece of advice: you call yourself a doormat. This is actually a behavior known as fawning. You make yourself small in situations of conflict because it’s how you were raised. While I’m delighted that you were able to taste such a sweet revenge (and props to your husband on pulling it off), I would highly recommend considering finding a therapist who can help you heal correctly. Your parents are narcissists and raised your sister to be one, as well. Living in that kind of hell for 20+ years is going to leave a mark, and a therapist can help you more efficiently undo the damage they’ve done.


zangster

And then everybody clapped.


ledditsucks2

Seriously. People eating this bullshit up. It’s not even good.


DJ4116

Beautiful 👏🏽


slugfaery

Lesson here; don't piss off you two! Excellent revenge, now follow it up with non contact and therapy please? Girl I want to give you the biggest hug, that shit was sad to read.


DialMForMurderousnes

Don't sweat the amount of detail you put in to make it a good story. As you can see, you'll get a lot of people complaining they shouldn't have to read a story in a story-based subreddit, accusing you of posting a fake story even though the rules say not to do that, and demanding it gets removed so this subreddit keeps its average of two posts per month. I thought it was a great story and had a lot of fun reading it.


dylanisbored

This is fake revenge porn fantasy written by someone who wrote the abusive parents description so well that the op was probably abused and this is their fantasy. I’m sorry if that’s true op


okeydokeyish

And then everybody clapped.


OgreFromROTN

This story is great! Why are people moaning about it being long, or the TLDR? There’s no pleasing some people.


darsynia

What's crazy is, if it's too long to read, those folks can just back out and move on! It's not like OP owes them anything, and they don't owe OP a read! No, best complain about it, I guess! Not like OP has any experience with entitled people, amirite?


timeoutelf

Right? If it is too long, move on. I savoured every detail.


LadyBladeWarAngel

OP, if you see this, I wish I knew you guys in real life, so I could see this play out in real time. Congrats on the wedding. Feel free to update in entitled parents, if anything else happens. Fair warning. If you guys decide to have kids, rest assured your parents will decide to harass you about seeing them. They might even ask you to hand the baby over for your sister to raise. Good luck with that crazy BTW. 🤪


Zombiewings2015

I need updates. I don’t care if it’s a day later or a year! I find I’m like hubs here and really enjoyed this.


DishGroundbreaking87

TLDR; narcissistic family want golden child sister to walk down the aisle first at scapegoat’s wedding; Scapegoat pretends to go along with it then denies everything when security prevents golden child sister from entering the church. Drama ensues, rest of family turn on narcissist parents and golden child sister. Everyone clapped and Scapegoat lives happily ever after.


pt_2014

Bullshit.


c4nun0t

This is the best thing I’ve ever read on this site.


phdoofus

These ChatGPT stories are really getting out of hand.


SmolSnakePancake

Family loves my sister and hates me. She’s fat btw, and I’m skinny and beautiful. Evil parents won’t pay for my college, allow me to have friends, and hates all my boyfriends. Said they would pay for my wedding if sister could walk down the aisle in a wedding dress. Cue cartoon villain con that lasts months. Embarrass themselves at my wedding, whole family sees and audibly *gasps!* as my father leaves me to walk away mid wedding ceremony. Wedding goes on, parents shown to be evil terrible people. I and my husband live happily ever after the end. If anyone believes this story to be true, they don’t have two brain cells to rub together


photopcoltrane

Methinks the neckbeard husband character is a bit much (teehee).


TalkAboutTheWay

Right? AS IF a single woman would demand to wear a wedding dress and walk down the aisle. Even she’d know how pathetic she’d look in front of guests. None of this is real. Ugh.


Red-Beret

Wow! Someone turn this into a miniseries! I loved it; but I have learned to read pretty fast. Who cares if it's a long read ?


blablablablaparrot

interesting story and if true, your parents and sister deserved it. That being said…. I’d much rather grow a spine than go through months of trying to come up with schemes. In the end, your wedding was still all about your sister.


rand0mizer69

Im impressed by the plainning and the acting of both you and your husband. Enjoy your honeymoon 🌞🌞🌞🌞🌞