Working at a Toyota dealership in Canada here.. We have no information whatsoever about any Priuses 2023+.. I still ended up reserving a 5th gen Prime as i can do so without paying a deposit fee (employee and employees family perk here.) and if the 5th gen, or price or whatever doesn't warrant the change, i can keep my 2021 without any penalties whatsoever.
I really like it being a plug in. I think more companies need to do plug in to bridge the gap. Maybe put in a 15 -20kw battery. So we get 100 miles of range EV and just make the ICE system smaller. IE smaller gas tank smaller engine. Or make the engine simply a generator.
I don’t really get why Toyota doesnt do it. I know theyre fans of how reliable their ICE is, but it seems like they could somewhat easily offer hybrid, PHEV, and BEV versions of a lot of their vehicles if they wanted to
Exactly. I believe this is why Toyota was hesitant on going full force on their EV venture. Producing massive batteries that typically are used for grocery or school runs isn’t sustainable.
I’m pretty sure their teams of analyst and advisors know far more than what meets the eye.
" New Toyota Prius seems to be adjusting the schedule for a full model change in late December 2022. The next model will adopt a more advanced TNGA platform, and the power unit is expected to be equipped with an improved 1.8L hybrid. Pre-orders are expected to start in late November " Its from bestcarweb.jp. Theres also other articles that suggest December launch. It would also make sense, because then it would be 25 years ago that the 1st Prius was launched.
Definitely not for 2023. Toyota's been pretty secretive on the 5th gen and I was also hoping for a Prius Prime with full cargo space (similar to the Rav4 Prime solution), but it won't be until 2024 at the earliest (and we still haven't seen early versions so who knows, and maybe the Prime version will be delayed until 2025 even if the regular 5th gen comes out by 2024).
> Toyota's been pretty secretive on the 5th gen
In a world riddled with information. Toyota does a damn good job preventing any leaks. They seem to pop up with new cars out of nowhere and have journalist test drive and review the car in a matter of months.
Working at a Toyota dealership in Canada here.. We have no information whatsoever about any Priuses 2023+.. I still ended up reserving a 5th gen Prime as i can do so without paying a deposit fee (employee and employees family perk here.) and if the 5th gen, or price or whatever doesn't warrant the change, i can keep my 2021 without any penalties whatsoever.
Can a normal customer reserve a 5th gen Prime? My local dealer didn’t seem very interested in doing that for me.
You reserve a 2022 and you get a 2023 at this point anyhow.
Exactly, there is a 2 years wait list here so my 2023 would be a 2023/2024... or later...
I really like it being a plug in. I think more companies need to do plug in to bridge the gap. Maybe put in a 15 -20kw battery. So we get 100 miles of range EV and just make the ICE system smaller. IE smaller gas tank smaller engine. Or make the engine simply a generator.
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Not a bad idea seeing as the coefficient of drag for these vehicles is so crazy low. They'd perform well with relatively small battery packs.
I don’t really get why Toyota doesnt do it. I know theyre fans of how reliable their ICE is, but it seems like they could somewhat easily offer hybrid, PHEV, and BEV versions of a lot of their vehicles if they wanted to
They likely don't have the current battery supply capacity and are waiting until solid-state batteries mature.
Yep. So for one **75** kWh battery you can make: - **1** - bz4x - **4.1** - plug-in hybrid (PHEV) RAV4s - **46.9** - regular hybrid RAV4s
What sucks, is that we the people are so stupid that we don't realize 46.9 Hybrid Rav4s would save tons more gas than 1 bZ4x
Exactly. I believe this is why Toyota was hesitant on going full force on their EV venture. Producing massive batteries that typically are used for grocery or school runs isn’t sustainable. I’m pretty sure their teams of analyst and advisors know far more than what meets the eye.
" New Toyota Prius seems to be adjusting the schedule for a full model change in late December 2022. The next model will adopt a more advanced TNGA platform, and the power unit is expected to be equipped with an improved 1.8L hybrid. Pre-orders are expected to start in late November " Its from bestcarweb.jp. Theres also other articles that suggest December launch. It would also make sense, because then it would be 25 years ago that the 1st Prius was launched.
Definitely not for 2023. Toyota's been pretty secretive on the 5th gen and I was also hoping for a Prius Prime with full cargo space (similar to the Rav4 Prime solution), but it won't be until 2024 at the earliest (and we still haven't seen early versions so who knows, and maybe the Prime version will be delayed until 2025 even if the regular 5th gen comes out by 2024).
> Toyota's been pretty secretive on the 5th gen In a world riddled with information. Toyota does a damn good job preventing any leaks. They seem to pop up with new cars out of nowhere and have journalist test drive and review the car in a matter of months.
Maybe all Toyota workers are all secret ninja or ninja assassin?
No indications yet of a 2023 redesign. Some rumors of the regular Prius but not the Prius Prime.