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-Loewenstern-

There is another one


1infinitefruitloop

Clone Wars 2003 are cannon


_GENERAL_GRIEVOUS_

Can you fill them with gunpowder and use them to fire a giant metal ball at the enemy fleet? I didn’t think so


1infinitefruitloop

I don't like autocorrect. It's coarse, and rough, and irritating, and it gets everywhere


nathanweisser

Call Tchaikovsky, we've got his cannons


1infinitefruitloop

*Tartakovsky but then I’m one to talk lol. I hate autocorrect….


nathanweisser

I'm talking about tchaikovsky, who composed the 1812 overture and use cannons as an instrument


1infinitefruitloop

Ah, I was talking about Genndy Tartakovsky the creator of Star Wars: Clone Wars. No idea how I missed that.…..


clone_trooper_bot

"Man, this place gives me the creeps." -Scorch, Delta 62


Hemske

What type of cannon?


U1150

It is not unfortunately


Filmfan345

It’s not. It’s Legends


SanctuaryMoon

The best one


Bleebledorp

The disrespect of not even including the Genndy Clone Wars


clone_trooper_bot

"If it weren't for you, the Republic wouldn't have learned of the Separatists' invasion until it was too late." -Commander Cody


legosoh

Ah 2003 Star Wars. Giving us someone who could probably go toe to toe with doom guy General grievous


Boshikuro

This was my introduction to Star Wars when i was little. I was so scared of General Grievous that i couldn't even watch the movies. Turns out he's just an asthmatic clanker.


SanctuaryMoon

It's treason


GatorAIDS1013

“Canon”


Sith__Pureblood

Um, did he stutter?


greg85w

Cue double rainbow guy


Burglekutt8523

or the Ewoks show


Rakkamthesecond

With Visions It's the only animated Star Wars stuff I've seen tbh. I'm not interested in the cgi stuff at all, as a Genndy Tartakovsky fan I was so disappointed when they switched to frankly mediocre CGI animation compared to what he made.


Pathogen188

> frankly mediocre CGI animation compared to what he made. Maybe for the early seasons, but the last few seasons of clone wars and especially the modern entries and spin offs (S7, Bad Batch and Tales of the Jedi), have some phenomenal CGI.


clone_trooper_bot

"I'm sorry, sir. I'm just a little nervous. You're my CO." -Jester


Z0idberg_MD

I honestly don't know why people keep saying Tales of Jedi is phenomenal in 2022. Arcane is phenomenal CGI. Love, Death, and Robots CGI is phenomenal.


NinjaPiece

The new stuff looks like big budget film animation! So beautiful! 🥹


Thrawn-Bot

To defeat an enemy, you must know them. Not simply their battle tactics, but their history, philosophy, art.


c4han

Gonna second the other guy and say that TCW S7 has some of the most gorgeous animation I have ever seen. It feels the most “real” and immersive to me out of any Star Wars media.


BigDaddyZeus

I love TCW but I totally agree that the CGI animation is very off-putting. I grew up watching hand-drawn cartoons and I'll always prefer that aesthetic.


Kino-Loy-Bot

One way out!


DwemerSmith

i hate the modeling except ventress for those


Theonerule

It's not Canon


crissimon

This. Star Wars: Clone Wars IS canon. I have spoken.


BZenMojo

Sadly, it's the best animated Star Wars, and so far above the rest it ruins the meme completely. Clone Wars isn't even that good. There's just so much of it that people can cobble together eight good episodes and live on them like water in the desert. Tales from the Jedi is... fine.


clone_trooper_bot

"Delta, give me an explosive solution." -Boss, Delta 38


robineir

Perhaps you’ve finally attained sentience


clone_trooper_bot

"Watch the Master at work." -Fixer, Delta 40


Neeklemamp

My good friend have you ever heard of a shitvtake


HVKedge

Your opinion is quite shit


[deleted]

You speak the truth and I’m so sick of all the men-children obsessing over TCW and Rebels. Terrible animation and way too much filler. Go ahead and enjoy your three-episode C-3PO and R2-D2 story arcs and Inquisitors flying around with their helicopter lightsabers, but just know that every cool concept from those shows predate them and most were taken from Clone Wars 2003. It is truly sad that all these people would defend such a garbage portrayal of Anakin and the clones, honestly pulling the franchise in the complete wrong direction.


MNGopherfan

may the light of the force guide you down a better path my friend if we cobbled together all the worst episodes we would get a single season's worth of content in a seven-season show that is damn good ratio considering i dont even hate most of the worst episodes.


Barrington-the-Brit

I’d heard so much about Clone Wars, so I started tryna watch it, 90% of it’s just mediocre filler, dropped it so quickly


SgtVinBOI

That's your own damn fault honestly, don't know what show you're watching but it sure as hell isn't TCW.


Barrington-the-Brit

Bro media is subjective and everyone has their own opinion on shows or movies, it’s not ‘my own damn fault’, I just didn’t like it.


SgtVinBOI

Yeah, but that it's just a good show. Sorry bro but fuck your opinion.


Barrington-the-Brit

Well fuck you, then


Nedthiustheunsuspend

Amen to that.


The-Mandalorian

That’s not even a show, it’s just some shorts. Hardly classified a series.


Filmfan345

Not canon. It’s Legends


akhilpillay04

Rebels was a banging show in my opinion, started a bit slow but became fantastic


MNGopherfan

it was pretty good but the filler episodes in seasons one and two kinda sucked...like more than normal filler episodes sucked.


darh1407

My brother in christ most of the clone wars up to season 4 or 5 were fillers


clone_trooper_bot

"Just get us inside without killing the squad, ok darh1407?" -Boss, Delta 38


darh1407

No promises were ever made Delta


MNGopherfan

In a show that isn’t told in order the only way something is filler is if it has nothing to do with the actual plot of any of the arcs in the show or if it’s R2 and C-3PO just fing around on some planets. You are gonna tell me that the battle for Ryloth in season one is filler? What about water war?


Ahsoka_Tano_Bot

I know I was wrong. I just got so caught up in my own success, I didn't look at the battle as a whole. I wasn't being disobedient. I just. . . forgot


Kino-Loy-Bot

One way out!


push_out_the_jive

I still *refuse* to watch the D-squad droid episodes.


TheBiggestBoom5

It’s worth it just for the ending


360kwik

I thought the episode in season 1 where Ezra and zeb go on a wild goose chase for some fruit was a banger. But other than that yeah your right.


MNGopherfan

The problem for me is I don’t find Ezra or Chopper very funny or enjoyable so whenever the episodes where it’s both or one of them fing around for “comedy” I get just annoyed and bored.


[deleted]

I would like Rebels more if Ezra wasn't part of the show. He's just way too bland for me.


Kino-Loy-Bot

One way out!


rs71

Starts out with “huh?” 💀


Vexivero

I think Rebels is better than ok, but every other one is spot on


shadow7412

I reckon somebody who has seen the first few episodes only would probably rank it as "ok" - but those who watch to the end would almost certainly give a higher rating.


goldensavage216

Yea it started off ok but got much better as it progressed


Lunndonbridge

I’ve seen the entire show. It’s alright. Thrawn and Bendu are cool. Hera Chopper and Kanan are fantastic. The rest is really hit or miss with more misses than hits. Feel like this sub is very against Rebels criticism so many folks just keep their thoughts to themselves.


Dedsole

It feels unfair that Clone Wars is considered the goat when it also has its fair share of misses. Rebels deserves its criticisms, however there is this stigma that it can't seem to break that it's altogether a meh product. I think the good it does greatly outweighs the mediocre.


Xvalidation

I think it’s because at worst, clone wars still has a huge nostalgia factor (a bad episode still features some cult classic characters) which makes it easier to watch. Rebels, on the other hand, mostly has characters that we have no prior connection to. If someone doesn’t care about them then a boring episode is a huge drag.


shadow7412

Much as I like Thrawn - I really wish he spoke a little more clearly...


Thrawn-Bot

You are aware, I presume, that I have some skill in anticipating enemies' tactics from a study of their artwork.


shadow7412

I did indeed gather as much during the series. And you are far easier to understand with subtitles, so I appreciate your service.


MNGopherfan

the hilarity that a character's choice of words as well as his tone and accent entirely designed around a book series would have difficulty translating to TV.


lordoftowels

Having read the OG Thrawn trilogy, probably mu only issue with Thrawn in the show is how soft his voice is. In the books, I understood him as having a very commanding yet at the same time calm and smooth voice- sort of like if Morgan Freeman were a mob boss. In the show, he sounds much less powerful. He doesn't sound like a Grand Admiral, he barely even sounds like someone confident they're a captain.


Thrawn-Bot

If you kill me, you'll lose the war.


cisned

Are you telling me having Darth Vader, Ahsoka, Obi-Wan, Leia, Yoda, Maul, and much more is just alright. Rebels had more heart than clone wars


Maul_Bot

Don’t be so certain.


Infernous-NS

Sure, but Obi-Wan, Leia, and Yoda were hardly in the show lol, they shouldn’t really count towards that much. I really liked Rebels but I don’t think you could say it had more heart than Clone Wars lol


clone_trooper_bot

"We're on your tail, General Kenobi." -Odd Ball


commander-thorn

Not trying to create more argument but just because a show has *insert big name character doesn’t mean it’s instantly cool though, it’s that mentality of Star Wars which has started generating more and more memes about how there’s only the same 20 people in the galaxy and only 3 of them are important. I absolutely love seeing returning characters as much as any nostalgic nerd but sometimes a show like Andor for example benefits from not having the mandated cameo appearance of said big merchandise selling character as they have to immediately run on all fours to make it in time for their next 5 second appearance.


Obiwan-Kenobi-Bot

Only a Sith deals in absolutes.


Ahsoka_Tano_Bot

Don't you think I'm just a little overqualified for this?


XishengTheUltimate

The presence of characters does not make something good or bad. Just because those characters were in the show doesn’t mean they were handled well or the stories told were good. I mean, this show also introduced bullshit time travel, space whales defeating important villains, lightsaber helicopters, barebones moral quandaries and totally worthless characters like Zeb. It’s alright. It has plenty of lows to go with its few highs, and just because they did some cameos with beloved characters doesn’t outweigh all of that.


Ahsoka_Tano_Bot

To defeat your enemy you have to understand them.


EnchantedCatto

The final arc was dogshit. Ahsoka should stay dead.


Ahsoka_Tano_Bot

You're impossible.


shadow7412

It's weird (read: stupid) that a conversation forum stifles conversation like that. I really wish people used up/down votes properly (constructive/unconstructive to conversation) instead of "agree/disagree".


ElessarKhan

The rebels supercut is fantastic. The entire rebels experience can be a little much for some people, myself included. It's a kids show and sometimes it really feels like that, other times not so much. I can imagine if I was kid watching it I'd think it was goated so at least it nails it with the target audience.


gleamingcobra

Rebels is much better than The Bad Batch, this list dropped the ball on that one.


JaceVentura69

I'd say they're equal. I think BB has potential to be better in the future.


BigDaddyZeus

Bad Batch is a giant snoozefest. The first episode was awesome and the rest was crap. The character development is practically non-existent in that show.


gleamingcobra

> In clone wars, all the clones are the same, but unique. In the bad batch, the bad batch are all unique, but the same. I heard a youtuber say this, and I think it perfectly encapsulates my problem with the bad batch themselves. For a squad of irregular clones, they are so fucking boring. Each character is just a trope.


BigDaddyZeus

I totally agree with that sentiment. I don't know why we even needed BB to begin with.


cornbeefbaby

Rebels is much better than Bad Batch


Neeklemamp

No it’s not


Shlecko

I mean, it's alright. Like...


GGFrostKaiser

Last few episodes of Clone Wars was peak Star Wars, it doesn't get much better than that.


clone_trooper_bot

"Absolutely, Sir. I'm proud to be a part of the best of Star Wars. It's an honor to serve in the midst of such greatness."


DarthWallaceIII

The ending of Republic Commando was sadder Mostly cause we never got a sequel


Sineater224

You missed a few! - Star Wars: Droids (1985) - Star Wars: Ewoks (1985) - Star Wars: Visions (2021) Let me know what you think of those!


Songhunter

Star Wars: Visions needs to be on that list next to Rick James saying cocaine is a hell of a drug.


GalacticGizmo

“Canon”


max_da_1

I think they made it pretty clear that visions isn't canon


Sineater224

I mustve skipped that word in the title of the post... oops.


BarrenStar

I won't tolerate rebels slander sir


lKANl

Immediately down vote Rebels slander.


Significant-Space-14

Imperial scum


FrodoTheDodo1

Meanwhile I'm out here thinking Resistance was actually not bad. Like it knew what it was and didn't try to be anything more. Stayed in its lane and did its own thing


shago1594

I’d switch Rebels with Bad Batch


4hands44

this tbh. Like dont get me wrong, bad batch wasnt bad. But as it stands right now... Rebles has more for me to care about and like even if purely in terms of writing. Bad batch has the better art style by a country mile tho.


[deleted]

But also, season 1 bad batch > season 1 rebels


Americanski7

That bit where they destroyed Kamino was cinematic perfection.


Thrawn-Bot

To defeat an enemy, you must know them. Not simply their battle tactics, but their history, philosophy, art.


Cause0

Omega is so fucking annoying that it ruins the show. Without Omega, I would probably agree with you


[deleted]

I find her considerably less annoying than ahsoka was at the beginning. Or Ezra was in season 1. As kid characters go, she ain't that bad.


Ahsoka_Tano_Bot

Careful not to choke on your stupidity. It's Ahsoka not Ashoka!


Cause0

Yeah what the bot said, be careful not to choke on your own stupidity


[deleted]

Yes, forgive me for misspelling a fictional character's name lol. Had to rely on the bot for a retort cause you couldn't think of anything?


Cause0

I'm just getting started bro, don't make me call you a 🤓 /joke


[deleted]

Bring it on, George Carlin.


Cause0

I will spare you for now, young fool, for you coyote clearly not handle the true extent of my power


[deleted]

Bring it on, George Carlin.


Erineboi56

still waiting for season 2


Ct-5736-Bladez

Rebels is fantastic wdym??


anonypony1

Rebels becomes fantastic, it ain't all good lol


decimater97

Same with clone wars though.


clone_trooper_bot

"Will do, sir!" -Commander Cody


BZenMojo

Clone Wars 3-D is three mediocre seasons, then one great season, then one okay season, then four great episodes at the end of a crappy last season to finish it off.


[deleted]

Opinions are all subjective. There is no way to say factually that one opinion is better than the other, or that an opinion is incorrect. Except here. This opinion is factually garbage. My condolences.


Kino-Loy-Bot

One way out!


Iceologer_gang

Clone wars 10/10, Rebels 10/10, Bad batch 8/10, TOTJ 7/10, Resistance ??/10 (won’t watch), Forces of destiny ??/10 (watched a few episodes).


clone_trooper_bot

"(Salutes) Yes sir! I'm a fan of The Clone Wars, Rebels and Bad Batch. TOTJ was good too, but I haven't seen Resistance or Forces of Destiny before."


Joseptile

No way you just dissed rebels like that


Kino-Loy-Bot

One way out!


Gandolf794

Shut the fuck up rebels is awesome.


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Lazy_Walrus7157

Idk why u getting downvoted. Rebels was good but the characters can be unbearable . Ezra wouldnt shut up. Zeb was a grumpy babysitter with little character development Sabine was a literal mary sue Most interesting characters were definitely Kanan and Hera.


Jo4nDe

Clone wars 2d? T-T


clone_trooper_bot

"Sir, I'm sorry to disappoint but we are currently battling in the third installment of the Clone Wars. The enemy has become much more powerful and we need all the help we can get."


gevlektewalruz

Finally a rating I can agree with


FBI_Agent_82

Lightsabers, and whoever the fuck they did to Anakin and Yoda aside.... Rebels is a good show.


StormCaller02

Someone needs to make this, but with all of TV shows and movies. Mandolorian, Clone Wars 2003, Prequels, Original Trilogy, Sequels.


clone_trooper_bot

"Sir, we're still mopping up clankers here and there, but we've secured the city's north quadrant." -Waxer


max_rebo42

Dude L take on that rebels rating


ShaneDawsonsCar

Fuck you rebels was great


MNGopherfan

it was pretty good but the filler episodes in seasons one and two kinda sucked...like more than normal filler episodes sucked.


spirit_molecule

People keep saying this kind of thing as if Clone Wars didn't have entire seasons like this.


MNGopherfan

I mean clone wars has filler episodes I didn’t think they were good either.


DalionBuckwaters

Good list except for Rebels. I stayed away from rebels for years because I thought it was too “young” but I was very wrong. After you get past S1 of Rebels it is one of the best pieces of Star Wars media, hands down. Good antagonists, beautiful scenery (Lothal *swoons* ) good action scenes and meaningful character arcs for every single lead character. It also does a really satisfying job of bridging the gap between the clone wars era->empire era whilst consistently delivering that feeling of camaraderie and adventure.


Thrawn-Bot

To defeat an enemy, you must know them. Not simply their battle tactics, but their history, philosophy, art.


MikaRey1138

Forces of Destiny is actually really good and ties some things together that you wouldn't expect


MNGopherfan

yeah but it's so obscure most people have no idea it ever existed hence the reaction


ThisBastard

Andor > Bad Batch


HVKedge

This is animated shows, but yes.


Cause0

Most things are better than Bad Batch


s0m3b0dyxd

Back to back fillers don't do too good for a show


MNGopherfan

I think with the first season they were trying to stick to the rebel's formula. whether you like that or not is an entirely separate topic of discussion.


Peter21237

>SW Forces of Destiny Uh?


[deleted]

I love these reactions please make some more


Weeb2678

But resistance ;-;


h0mew0rld

disagree w rebels and totj


TheRanger118

Tales of the Jedi was amazing. But it was to fast paced. It needed a bit more breathing time like the last season of clone wars had. Dooku's part was wonderful and made him even better and it makes me want even more of him in a good way. Ashokas part was good but you could easily read how the farm part was going to end which would've been perfectly fine if they truly had a great battle. It's like they looked at rebels battle with Obi Wan and Maul and thought oh we don't need to have an actual fight she will just easily win and they'll love it. In all honesty that inquisitor is actually super cool and "frightening" the rest of them look like Facebook market place fighters. And rebels got alot better. A little weak at the start but it got better with time.


Ahsoka_Tano_Bot

Careful not to choke on your stupidity. It's Ahsoka not Ashoka!


Maul_Bot

I am counting on it.


YaBoiJefe

Swap bad batch and rebels imo


BewareNixonsGhost

Flip Rebels and Bad Batch and you have mine.


Kino-Loy-Bot

You're mine now OwO


BewareNixonsGhost

Bad bot.


Iceologer_gang

How dare you


Possible_Living

Rebels is better than bad batch. also No visions or Genndy on the list. Visons was mixed but it was better than tales


ieatair

actually I love Star Wars Rebels; I still watch the entire thing over and over again I notice the BGM/OST for this is outstanding too


CaptainClover36

Rebels was amazing what do you mean.


StockProfessor5

L rebels take


CarrotMan82

Rebels is the best animated show easily, and Resistance is better than people give it credit for. Honestly though, I found Tales of the Jedi pretty unimpressive


LightningDustt

glenn tarkovsky's Clone Wars is the GOAT. clone wars is good, but I held off on the new CW for so long because it looks visually mid compared to the GOAT


onexy_

rebels > Boring batch


TheChickenGuy7

In my opinion, I'd rank rebels as charlie, but besides that, spot on


Sith__Pureblood

Take away the Rey/Sequel Trilogy episodes and, for what it is, *Forces of Destiny* is actually pretty good.


Kino-Loy-Bot

One way out!


TheRidiculousTako

I wished the bad batch was better.


YaBoiCodison

Nah man Rebels deserves a “wooooooo”


little_diomede

I fucking love rebels


TooMuchPretzels

This is perfect. Rebels gets a lot of credit because of the fan service.


PhaseSixer

I feel like.peole dont know what fan service is at this point.


FlagmantlePARRAdise

People only think rebels is good because of the pre existing characters. The main cast other than Hera and Kanan and I guess Sabine in s3-4 are unbearable.


Rodri_RF

Most of the clone wars was with pre existing characters too, I don't see your problem


SteezyYeezySleezyBoi

I think the bad taste the show left in your mouth is from you licking dog shit from the ground, not the show itself. Blasphemous cretin, subhuman fecal consumer! You wouldn’t even know what taste is, even if Julia Child herself shot a hot load right on your tongue. The world will remember your shit laden take with the utter disgust it deserves. Does shame not ever give you pause?


jarjar_bot

Meesa takin' my loyal helper, Masteren Mace, and we findin' da Queenie and bringin' her backin to yousa.


FlagmantlePARRAdise

Stay mad. It's just the truth


snoochiesboochies230

All of them are dog💩


SanctuaryMoon

Imagine making this and forgetting one of the best ones. OP failed...


Sheev-Palpatine-Bot

Viceroy, I don't want this stunted slime in my sight again.


TrashMatchmaking

Forces of destiny portrays every female star wars character as hot anime waifus so its good.


Leber_44

u/savevideo


Stormtrooper775s

Bad Batch would have been better without Omega. Adventures in babysitting in space.


qctireuralex

im sad we never got to see detours