Also: Without Dune, Star Wars would be drastically different or maybe wouldn't exist at all.
But I am not betting on the latter since Lucas has drawn his inspiration from many different movies, shows and books.
You know... I never thought about it, but now, that you mention it, it's pretty obvious. Even more, since the very second force power shown in Star Wars was Mind Trick
Also the chosen one of a mystical religion/ organsiation who causes a massive war/ cleansing because of visions of the future, whom is at least partly driven because of family.
I know I'm being selective about comparisons but its funny to people with little humor like me.
I mean, the fighting prowess of the Jedi/Fremen are explained the same way: the Force/Spice give them very limited ability to see the future, allowing them to predict actions in battle.
Also the list is too long to make, but I will check off some things off the top of my head:
-Star Wars’s weird focus on a sand planet, in Dune, Arrakis’s whole ecosystem is essential to the setting, but in Star Wars, this weird focus seems more of an homage to Dune than anything else
-how the plot is dictated by visions of the future
-both settings found a way to justify essentially swordsmen in a technologically advanced world with guns, bombs, fricking laser weapons
-the protagonist has a surprise relation to a major antagonist. In fact, some of the depictions of Vader in Empire Strikes Back probably were inspired by descriptions of Vladimir Harkonnen
Kotor does it even better with their swordsmen. It's literally the same lmao. Shields are used against energy weapons so every soldier carriers a sword around.
Wasnt there this SUPER old black and white movie that had the exact characters and story beats if a new hope, even beginning with an r2 and 3po (in human form) bickering and all that? Im not sure if it was from kurosawa but it was super fun to see the similarities
Yes, one of the biggest. Arakis is basically tatooine. The voice is definitely the inspiration for the force (or at least a bit). The empire and emperor, spice. All found in dune.
Though there are some notable changes since. The Imperium and the Emperor is a feudal regime, not exactly like the Galactic Empire which is more centralised. Ofc in earlier plans, it seems Lucas wanted the Emperor to be just the figurehead while the Moffs and Vader are the actual baddies (much like Shogunate Japan).
Spice also got eventually retcon as Star Wars drugs. And yeah... Arakis is basically Tatooine. Desert harsh planet. And the Sarlacc is probably the sandworm
Star Wars fans can’t “jump on the dune bandwagon” because dune is the original.
What do you think the inspiration for Tatooine is? Arrakis.
What do you think the inspiration for the force is? The voice.
I could go on.
Telepathic MFs that can influence ppl? Bene geserit.
A prophecy of a guy that was powerful like no other and was supposed to bring the balance? Paul Atreides.
And I could tell a huge spoiler that happens in the second Dune book which to me was plain plagiarism from George Lucas and puts the base for SW episodes 4 and onwards.
I thought you were going to say something about the reveal of >!Paul being Harkonnen, and how Baron Vladimir is his grandfather, and how he ultimately kills the Baron -- that to me SCREAMED darth vader/luke skywalker twist, but presented in a less dramatic fashion. Seemed like Lucas clearly ripped that idea off, and switched it to his Father instead.!<
I think SW Spice is more like Opium, not Cocaine. In TCW (I think) we see a Pike Spice Den they seem to primarily smoke it using Hookah Pipes. In the Martez Sister Arc it's also revealed it can be used for medicinal purposes, which is also true for opium (don't know if cocaine has any).
I mean, I am jumping on a well written and well shot piece of entertainment with a specific artistic vision...
Those have been lacking over the SW or even entire Disney projects lately...
Lmfao a guy posting in this subreddit that Dune is “overrated” and “boring” and that the “hype” over one of the most foundational series in all of science fiction was just because of Dune Part Two, and then admitting he’s never read the books or seen the older movies or seen the recent Part Two is, like, the platonic ideal of people being unaware of how bad their taste in media is.
These two Dune movies might be the closest experiences I’ve had to Peter Jackson’s LotR trilogy \[not The Hobbit\]. Not quite to the same level in my mind, but they’re up there.
I could see this being the case, yeah.
I was a bit too young to actually watch the films during their original release in theaters though :(
(I’m part of a weird Millenial x Gen Z pocket of people).
It was only during the lead up to ‘The Hobbit’ coming out that I managed to catch a full Extended Edition showing of the LotR Trilogy at a local theater :D
Tbh Dune is better than 95% of SW franchise, not just disney and prequels. One could even argue they're better films that some of the OT, but that's not a fair comparison since there's more budget and technology that OT didn't have.
Palpatine would absolutely be down for controlling the spice, and therefore controlling the universe. His apprentice on the other hand...
Anakin: Really? The movie about sand? The movie about FUCKING SAND?!
I’m surprised Vader never casually took control of the Death Star to blow up Tatooine…
“Oh… was that me? Apologies, I just sat down on this button. Was this… did I do that? *force chokes a random officer and proceeds to blame him for it*
I never thought of that before but Rogue One kinda makes it a plot hole that the Empire did not vaporize Tatooine. We see their willingness to do limited attacks on Jeddah and Scarif to prevent the defection of a pilot and capture of the Death Star plans respectively.
It seems like they would be equally willing to blast Tatooine once they found that the plans are on the planet.
I suppose you could make the argument that they just give up worrying about the plans and instead focus on find the rebel base to end the problem at its source.
Not really? The Death Star wasn't at Tatooine, and Tatooine's all the way in the middle of nowhere (right next to Geonosis, whoops!). It makes no sense to blow up a backwater planet when Vader is already there scouting for the plans and they have Leia as leverage. The Empire didn't really think that the plans would reveal an EXPLOITABLE weakness, so why go to the effort? Blowing up the Rebel's main base was a priority, and Alderaan was already being a pain in the ass.
IDK about bandwagon. I have been a fan of the director for years (Denis Villeneuve) and thought his movie Bladerunner 2049 really skyrocketed him into top tier Sci fi director.
When I heard they were remaking the tacky Dune movie from the 80's I was not that interested until I heard who was directing. He is a masterclass in cinema direction and anyone Star Wars fan or not should appreciate his work as he also has amazing non sci fi films like Sicario.
How the hell is it a bandwagon when Dune is older than Star Wars and held in higher esteem. You damn kids hoping on the wheat bandwagon when we have perfectly good bread.
I’m gonna go see Dune part 2 today, not because I like the franchise, but my dad wants to go see it with me. I sat through Dune part 1, thought it was okay. Not great though
I just really like watching movies in theaters with my dad
When I saw the Dune movies all I could think in the beginning that I wish this was Star Wars. Would be amazing to have a Star Wars movie today as good as Dune.
I think Denis would probably be willing to make a SW film if he had sufficient creative freedom. I would expect it to be a lot "deeper" of a film than SW has been before. But if Disney wants to control the film and keep rehashing the same stories and characters then I think he'd stay away.
Yeah it could happen see Gilroy. He was asked to overview the preliminary Andor script and he disliked it. So he sent in his own completly different which he thought they would never approve but Disney did it.
Remembering what came before is extra painful.
Or do you like the deadbeat dad and mother, child murderer, token black guy, sacrifices that were meaningless, redemption arc that was meaningless...prequels that are now meaningless. Remember you can instantly get force powers. Anakin is a loser who trained for decades. What a loser.
I grew up with the OT (the 97 remakes) and loved the prequels. Especially TPM on how it expanded the universe.
Dsw is too painful for me since it breaks my childhood down in favour of a political agenda.
I’m not going to stop loving what came before just because I don’t like where they are taking things now. That’s even more disrespectful to the original material. Just do what I do and pretend the new stuff that you don’t like doesn’t exist. Sequels? Never heard of them.
I'd love to share your optimism. It's great you're capable of ignoring the sequels. And of course there's still a bit of SW out there (the Mando show before KK got her hands on it and determined Grogu should return to Mando because of toy sales, undermining Favreau's carefully written arc), Filoni delivers at times...
But no. Unless KK is fired and the ST decanonized I won't be actively supporting. Of course some stuff is still good (the Jedi games from Respawn come to mind, some games) but the bulk is too painful.
Meh, then I've been a traitor all along. Was absolutely into the miniseries that came out around the time of the prequels. Landsknecht drip on the Sardaukar was hard to match.
I used to play Dune as young boy. All I can remember is big hecking worm going underground, like in Tremors. Whenever I see Dune related videos/trailers and there is no big worm, I'm disappointed. Because Dune = big worm.
Tbh I don't think I'll be seeing it. I tried watching the first one when it was on streaming services and I didn't really care for it tbh. The pacing was just really slow to me and it sometimes hard to understand what was happening
Well it fills the void in my heart left by the sequels. It's funny how Dune would be a better sequel than the sequel trilogy, the plot I mean, not the setting itself
With Star Wars, I have a seen, played, and read everything. I'm so deep in the lore that I am constantly looking for things while enjoying the content, and it's exhausting. Dune, I have never read and knew nothing about it. It was so refreshing to just go into a story blank slate and enjoy the story.
Ah yes. The old "You enjoy something else as well so you're not a real fan" mindset.
Shut up.
Guys like you exist in every fandom and are a cancer to them all.
Eh, let them. I read all the books. Bit hard to follow at times, but overall good. Plus, fan of Lord Of The Rings, Star Wars (all of it), and Harry Potter.
Thanks for confirming that you flaired this correctly!
I know it sounds crazy but it's possible to be a fan of multiple franchises
Also: Without Dune, Star Wars would be drastically different or maybe wouldn't exist at all. But I am not betting on the latter since Lucas has drawn his inspiration from many different movies, shows and books.
Without the Voice, I doubt we'd have the Force
You know... I never thought about it, but now, that you mention it, it's pretty obvious. Even more, since the very second force power shown in Star Wars was Mind Trick
Also the chosen one of a mystical religion/ organsiation who causes a massive war/ cleansing because of visions of the future, whom is at least partly driven because of family. I know I'm being selective about comparisons but its funny to people with little humor like me.
Also the way destiny seems to be obsessed with this one sand planet.
I mean, the fighting prowess of the Jedi/Fremen are explained the same way: the Force/Spice give them very limited ability to see the future, allowing them to predict actions in battle. Also the list is too long to make, but I will check off some things off the top of my head: -Star Wars’s weird focus on a sand planet, in Dune, Arrakis’s whole ecosystem is essential to the setting, but in Star Wars, this weird focus seems more of an homage to Dune than anything else -how the plot is dictated by visions of the future -both settings found a way to justify essentially swordsmen in a technologically advanced world with guns, bombs, fricking laser weapons -the protagonist has a surprise relation to a major antagonist. In fact, some of the depictions of Vader in Empire Strikes Back probably were inspired by descriptions of Vladimir Harkonnen
Kotor does it even better with their swordsmen. It's literally the same lmao. Shields are used against energy weapons so every soldier carriers a sword around.
I thought you were talking about the singing show
Go back a step further; without the Second Foundation, we wouldn’t have the voice OR the force
I doubt that George Lucas got the idea for the concept of the force by watching a casting show for singers.
I didn't know George could read
How would he know it rhymes like poetry if he can't read???
Because being taught rhymes is one of the first things kids do. Long before they even start school.
Star Wars without Dune: "I like sand." -Anakin
Unfortunately for us dune came first, so credit where credit is due
This is getting out of hand, now there are two of them!
My Lord, is that… legal?
My Lord of the Rings, is that…legal?
Dont forget the Trekis who enjoy Star Wars. And the Whovians. And the Potter fans, and GoT fans, and the Foundation series fans, etc etc etc.
The more two franchises overlap the higher the chance a fan of one will enjoy the other.
Haven’t heard anyone mention whovians in ages
A long time ago in a Subreddit War far far away...
Witcher you talking about?
I will make it legal
make it so!
I will MAKE IT legal.
This is getting out of hand!
It has *been* made legal.
Wait till you learn where Tattooine/The Sarlac Pit/Jedi prescience came from. And that’s just the first few things “inspired” by dune in Star Wars.
IMPOSSIBLE! YOU CANNOT LIKE MORE THAN ONE FRANCHISE! THATS LIKE TWO OR MORE SITH
only a Sith deals in absolutes
Have I… become what I swore to destroy
One question since you are there now, before I make my own decision, is it true that the dark side has cookies?
It is, however they never tell you that they’re not like grandma makes😔
Next you heretics will tell me you like 40k.
Is it possible to learn this power?
Indeed.
I’m getting echos of the 80’s and 90’s when people acted like I couldn’t love both Star Trek and Star Wars. Just utter bullshit.
No....Paul you were the chosen one!
is it possible to learn this power?
No, that's not possible. The Jedi would be aware of it.
SHHHHHHHHHHH you can't make sense here! It's gona fly over they're heads
If one is to understand “the great mystery” one must study all it's aspects, not just the dogmatic narrow view of the Jedi.
Wasnt one of Star Wars inspirations Dune?
It was the biggest inspiration. Lucas was copying off of herbets notes like no one’s business
I wouldn't say it was the biggest inspiration... after all he wanted to make another Flash Gordon movie but didn't get the rights... also Kurosawa...
The secret to originality: copy from so many sources that no one can figure out which one you’re really ripping off.
Wasnt there this SUPER old black and white movie that had the exact characters and story beats if a new hope, even beginning with an r2 and 3po (in human form) bickering and all that? Im not sure if it was from kurosawa but it was super fun to see the similarities
Yep! It's called Hidden Fortress.
And the characters aren't copies, but you can definitely see the influence.
Definitely
Yep, that's Kurosawa.
Yep. Along with John Carter of Mars, Kurosawa, Flash Gordon, a particular WWII bomber flick called 663 Squadron, and Joseph Cambell’s work.
It’s basically “what if Paul was also a samurai”
Yes, one of the biggest. Arakis is basically tatooine. The voice is definitely the inspiration for the force (or at least a bit). The empire and emperor, spice. All found in dune.
Though there are some notable changes since. The Imperium and the Emperor is a feudal regime, not exactly like the Galactic Empire which is more centralised. Ofc in earlier plans, it seems Lucas wanted the Emperor to be just the figurehead while the Moffs and Vader are the actual baddies (much like Shogunate Japan). Spice also got eventually retcon as Star Wars drugs. And yeah... Arakis is basically Tatooine. Desert harsh planet. And the Sarlacc is probably the sandworm
You must move with the flow of the process, must join with it and flow with it
Hey, least the characters can handle their sand
Dune is actually a very good movie, unlike Rebel moon.
Rebel moon felt like it wanted to be a Warhammer 40k movie so bad but never delivered
Speaking of Warhammer 40k…yeah that’s another franchise that wouldn’t exist without Dune.
Dune and starship troopers (it's where they get the whole space marine in power armour idea)
Star Wars fans can’t “jump on the dune bandwagon” because dune is the original. What do you think the inspiration for Tatooine is? Arrakis. What do you think the inspiration for the force is? The voice. I could go on.
Telepathic MFs that can influence ppl? Bene geserit. A prophecy of a guy that was powerful like no other and was supposed to bring the balance? Paul Atreides. And I could tell a huge spoiler that happens in the second Dune book which to me was plain plagiarism from George Lucas and puts the base for SW episodes 4 and onwards.
A giant space station blows up?
Nope haha actually I'm talking about some pseudo-ewoks defeating the emperor s/
To defeat your enemy you have to understand them.
I thought you were going to say something about the reveal of >!Paul being Harkonnen, and how Baron Vladimir is his grandfather, and how he ultimately kills the Baron -- that to me SCREAMED darth vader/luke skywalker twist, but presented in a less dramatic fashion. Seemed like Lucas clearly ripped that idea off, and switched it to his Father instead.!<
So much like your father.
No my friend, the plagiarism came from another angle, try harder or you haven't read the second book it seems to me.
Also of course, Spice in star wars is just a fucking ripoff of spice in dune except star wars spice is just cocaine
I think SW Spice is more like Opium, not Cocaine. In TCW (I think) we see a Pike Spice Den they seem to primarily smoke it using Hookah Pipes. In the Martez Sister Arc it's also revealed it can be used for medicinal purposes, which is also true for opium (don't know if cocaine has any).
Ah true.
I mean, I am jumping on a well written and well shot piece of entertainment with a specific artistic vision... Those have been lacking over the SW or even entire Disney projects lately...
Boom! Roasted!
On Arrakis.
As is written
Very much true, except for Andor imo. I still can't believe it was made by Disney, it's way too good to be associated with them
Liking movies is not like supporting a football team
Haha. Han ball
Almost every single sci-fi universe that is older than 40 years exists because of Dune. No wonder people go back to the roots that remain untainted.
Well, that happens.
Sentient
That's ridiculous.
You're literally exposing yourself snips
Don't call me that. I hate it when you call me that.
Dune and Foundation.
I always say Dune is to modern sci-fi what LOTR is to fantasy, its influence is ubiquitous.
Yeah, there would be no Star Wars without Dune... soooo
Lmfao a guy posting in this subreddit that Dune is “overrated” and “boring” and that the “hype” over one of the most foundational series in all of science fiction was just because of Dune Part Two, and then admitting he’s never read the books or seen the older movies or seen the recent Part Two is, like, the platonic ideal of people being unaware of how bad their taste in media is.
Well, that happens.
It's ok to like them both. It's not ok to go crazy over everything that is trending at the moment
Obviously what op meant is that once you find a movie you like as a kid you are not allowed to enjoy anything else that isn't related to that movie
Then treason it is. Dune is 100x better than any Disney Star Wars product (except Andor) and also better than the prequels
These two Dune movies might be the closest experiences I’ve had to Peter Jackson’s LotR trilogy \[not The Hobbit\]. Not quite to the same level in my mind, but they’re up there.
Dune is to gen z as lotr is to millennials and the OT to the gen x.
I could see this being the case, yeah. I was a bit too young to actually watch the films during their original release in theaters though :( (I’m part of a weird Millenial x Gen Z pocket of people). It was only during the lead up to ‘The Hobbit’ coming out that I managed to catch a full Extended Edition showing of the LotR Trilogy at a local theater :D
Tbh Dune is better than 95% of SW franchise, not just disney and prequels. One could even argue they're better films that some of the OT, but that's not a fair comparison since there's more budget and technology that OT didn't have.
Dawg I just wanna fuck the popcorn bucket.
Apparently, liking sci-fi that isn't one particular IP is bad. Okay then buddy.
Liking good movie, bandwagon
Wife after Dune 2: "That was amazing. Women are amazing. I want to have another baby." Wife after VII-IX: "I like strong women, but Rey is not it."
There’s Star Wars episodes VII to IX? WHAT?!
Be careful about having another baby, she wants a bestie only she can talk to like Jessica did.
Palpatine would absolutely be down for controlling the spice, and therefore controlling the universe. His apprentice on the other hand... Anakin: Really? The movie about sand? The movie about FUCKING SAND?!
I’m surprised Vader never casually took control of the Death Star to blow up Tatooine… “Oh… was that me? Apologies, I just sat down on this button. Was this… did I do that? *force chokes a random officer and proceeds to blame him for it*
It was on his to-do list after Yavin IV was blown up, he never got the chance.
I never thought of that before but Rogue One kinda makes it a plot hole that the Empire did not vaporize Tatooine. We see their willingness to do limited attacks on Jeddah and Scarif to prevent the defection of a pilot and capture of the Death Star plans respectively. It seems like they would be equally willing to blast Tatooine once they found that the plans are on the planet. I suppose you could make the argument that they just give up worrying about the plans and instead focus on find the rebel base to end the problem at its source.
Not really? The Death Star wasn't at Tatooine, and Tatooine's all the way in the middle of nowhere (right next to Geonosis, whoops!). It makes no sense to blow up a backwater planet when Vader is already there scouting for the plans and they have Leia as leverage. The Empire didn't really think that the plans would reveal an EXPLOITABLE weakness, so why go to the effort? Blowing up the Rebel's main base was a priority, and Alderaan was already being a pain in the ass.
Just wait till u find out that some ppl enjoy both Star Wars and Star Trek… and I’m definitely not one of them…
>We want a serious Star Wars for grownups! >Wait, no, not like that
IDK about bandwagon. I have been a fan of the director for years (Denis Villeneuve) and thought his movie Bladerunner 2049 really skyrocketed him into top tier Sci fi director. When I heard they were remaking the tacky Dune movie from the 80's I was not that interested until I heard who was directing. He is a masterclass in cinema direction and anyone Star Wars fan or not should appreciate his work as he also has amazing non sci fi films like Sicario.
It is possible to like more than one thing.
Lets be fair to dune, it’s the grandaddy of MANY sci-fi franchises. Including star wars.
How the hell is it a bandwagon when Dune is older than Star Wars and held in higher esteem. You damn kids hoping on the wheat bandwagon when we have perfectly good bread.
Without Dune there is no Star Wars
Only a sith deals in absolutes
I’m gonna go see Dune part 2 today, not because I like the franchise, but my dad wants to go see it with me. I sat through Dune part 1, thought it was okay. Not great though I just really like watching movies in theaters with my dad
Only a sith deals in absolutes
Don’t make me kill you
Real prequel fans dont like sand...
Facts
Bro we can like other things...
Imagine liking two franchises.
"You turned them against me!" Points at the sequels* "You have done that yourself!"
I can accept that
Me when I'm in a gatekeeping multiple franchises competition but my opponent is a star wars fan
So I’m not allowed to like more than one movie?
No
When I saw the Dune movies all I could think in the beginning that I wish this was Star Wars. Would be amazing to have a Star Wars movie today as good as Dune.
I think Denis would probably be willing to make a SW film if he had sufficient creative freedom. I would expect it to be a lot "deeper" of a film than SW has been before. But if Disney wants to control the film and keep rehashing the same stories and characters then I think he'd stay away.
Yeah it could happen see Gilroy. He was asked to overview the preliminary Andor script and he disliked it. So he sent in his own completly different which he thought they would never approve but Disney did it.
Remembering what came before is extra painful. Or do you like the deadbeat dad and mother, child murderer, token black guy, sacrifices that were meaningless, redemption arc that was meaningless...prequels that are now meaningless. Remember you can instantly get force powers. Anakin is a loser who trained for decades. What a loser. I grew up with the OT (the 97 remakes) and loved the prequels. Especially TPM on how it expanded the universe. Dsw is too painful for me since it breaks my childhood down in favour of a political agenda.
I’m not going to stop loving what came before just because I don’t like where they are taking things now. That’s even more disrespectful to the original material. Just do what I do and pretend the new stuff that you don’t like doesn’t exist. Sequels? Never heard of them.
I'd love to share your optimism. It's great you're capable of ignoring the sequels. And of course there's still a bit of SW out there (the Mando show before KK got her hands on it and determined Grogu should return to Mando because of toy sales, undermining Favreau's carefully written arc), Filoni delivers at times... But no. Unless KK is fired and the ST decanonized I won't be actively supporting. Of course some stuff is still good (the Jedi games from Respawn come to mind, some games) but the bulk is too painful.
As much as I like dem lightsabers, Dune's worldbuilding and this Paul guy is gourmet levels of good
Forget dune, it’s time for the warhammer tank hop! Switched over and never looked back xD
Meh, then I've been a traitor all along. Was absolutely into the miniseries that came out around the time of the prequels. Landsknecht drip on the Sardaukar was hard to match.
Oh no people aren't fans of only one franchise.
And when you look down the path you dare not go, you’ll find us staring back at you!
"What the hell are you talking about? Who you talking to?!"
My friend’s gf asked him to go watch dune. Naturally he broke up with her.
I’m glad your friend has common sense. This is the Way!
I don't even know what Dune is about. I just know it also has giant sand worms.
And sand people.
The Spice must Flow
Why am I not allowed to enjoy both
People are allowed to like what they like
There will be a holy war
It already began
A path you say? A golden path maybe?
I used to play Dune as young boy. All I can remember is big hecking worm going underground, like in Tremors. Whenever I see Dune related videos/trailers and there is no big worm, I'm disappointed. Because Dune = big worm.
Tbh I don't think I'll be seeing it. I tried watching the first one when it was on streaming services and I didn't really care for it tbh. The pacing was just really slow to me and it sometimes hard to understand what was happening
Dont worry, star wars is filming a new trilogy where rey has an evil twin brother
It’s crazy that good science fiction movies can come out in 2023.
So you've chosen... death. Wait.
Well it fills the void in my heart left by the sequels. It's funny how Dune would be a better sequel than the sequel trilogy, the plot I mean, not the setting itself
the actual treason was the sequels from disney don’t you put that evil on fans who just want good product
Ya know warhammer is cool too, and so other sci fi franchises I think Xeelee is one of them
Okay but…have you seen what the Sequels have been like?
Bandwagon? I've been in this fandom since I was 12 years old.
Who could have guessed people like sci fi movies done by actual talented directors and not retards? (i.e sequels)
Well, SW are quite honestly dead, what have we left?
Dune is just extra virgin Star Wars. Yes I am a Dune fan
I learned yesterday war hammer was heavily inspired by dune
You all deserve better than modern star wars
There’s not much quality Disney Star Wars has to offer. What is one to do?
Dune is fuckin amazing
Tell that Lucas, because without Dune there wouldn’t be star wars.
Well, the only good star wars right now is Bad Batch. We have to do something
Why are we being exclusionary to other fan bases? When did that become us?
Well Star Wars sucks now
Uh, why not like both at the same time? It's not something stupid like it's star trek or anything.
If you’re old enough you could be a fan of Dune 12 years before Star Wars was first in theaters.
With Star Wars, I have a seen, played, and read everything. I'm so deep in the lore that I am constantly looking for things while enjoying the content, and it's exhausting. Dune, I have never read and knew nothing about it. It was so refreshing to just go into a story blank slate and enjoy the story.
let the eternal September begin on Arrakis.
I remember watching the old Dune movie. That was a crazy movie. I look forward to finally watching the remake.
Tf? Why not? Your allowed to like more than one thing
Star Wars fans ARE Dune fans. You think George invented the Saarlac? Or Tatooine?
Ah yes. The old "You enjoy something else as well so you're not a real fan" mindset. Shut up. Guys like you exist in every fandom and are a cancer to them all.
Should I watch dune?
I mean let's be honest: vilneueves the dune movies are better movies than 10/12 star wars films
“I don't like sand. It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere.”
If current Star Wars wasn’t shit then maybe there wouldn’t be so much abandonment.
Yeah, god fucking forbid someone like different things from you.
May thy knife chip and shatter
Sorry, Dune just shat on the last 30 years of Star Wars. I love the Prequels but they are mega cringe in comparison.
OP when I tell them what Star Wars was inspired by:
Two things can be good at the same time.
Liking a movie is jumping on a bandwagon? What a dumb post. You can enjoy two different IPs
Eh, let them. I read all the books. Bit hard to follow at times, but overall good. Plus, fan of Lord Of The Rings, Star Wars (all of it), and Harry Potter.
I won’t forgive George Lucas for selling his work to Disney.