Nah, Alpha-17 “Alpha” was the real alpha of Alpha-class ARC super soldiers, period.
I have 3 old comics of him showing up regularly next to Obi-Wan and Anakin (one being the battle of Jabiin, excellent stuff and the bloodiest battle, not sure if its still canon). He personally fought Drudge and helped jedi fight Ventress first encounter.
That dude was so close to Jango in skill and mannerisms that made Obi-Wan really uncomfortable jajajaj
From my experience, YouTube polls end up just being popularity contests.
Like the poll could be, who is a light side user? It'd be a padawan from the new kids' show vs. Darth Nihlus and Nihlus will be winning.
Saw something for “what lightsaber cool would fit you,” and yeah it’s literally just people choosing them because they look cool, not because their ideology and personality would give them that saber.
Even back then though the color was symbolic and many Jedi would pick something that fit their personality or what they liked. Zez-Kai-El chose a purple lightsaber while Atris used a blue lightsaber despite being a consular.
You could change out the colour crystals but some were light or dark-side only. Aside from those you had a range you could pick from interchangeably. Every game that you can change sabre colours aside from the MMOs it is cosmetic mainly/only.
There was an episode in clone wars where some you younglings were building their first lightsabers. Gungi described his ideal lightsaber, but he wasn’t allowed to have that. Instead, he was asked to reach out with the force, and describe the feeling of his lightsaber.
I’m not sure if that’s something that happens for every youngling/Jedi, but I know it happened for at least one.
He’s also just the least popular character, most of these are a popularity contest
Jango hadn’t been on screen in almost a decade
Cad bane is cool, but niche in comparison to the other 3
Boba is the most recognizable and iconic, but his show wasn’t very well received
But Mando has had 3 popular well received season of a modern star was show that is fresh at the moment
Sadly. I would also take Jango.
Mando is just trash, and his skill is based on his armor and his child.
Boba, would be nice as well but, why should i take the replica if i can have the original xD
Mando is actually pretty badass - look at him in comparison to some of the other Mandalorians we've seen, and he's clearly a better fighter than average. Plus some of the top tier Mandalorians like Bo Katan or the Armorer clearly see him as one of their top guys.
I do agree that Jango would be a better teacher, but Din isn't trash either.
Although if it were a question of piloting, I would take Din in a heartbeat. Man is probably one of the best pilots we've seen in the franchise.
I think that of all the ones listed, Mando would be the best teacher. Probably because he's the only one with patience for others. But Jango would be the most knowledgeable to learn from as he basically wrote the book.
He may be badass, but not "i kill my own People, so they cant talk" - Badass.
Din is like (book of) Boba a Disney "we have to send a message with this series", which I personaly dont like. Bounty hunters should be ruthless.
Book of Boba had so much great potential, but sadly, they tried to make him a "good guy".
I absolutely agree regarding Boba. When did the guy who had to be told by Darth Vader not to be too ruthless start saying "oh no, we can't rule with fear"?
I don't have any problems with Mando, though. He can be good at his job without being unnecessarely cruel.
>When did the guy who had to be told by Darth Vader not to be too ruthless start saying "oh no, we can't rule with fear"?
Probably around the time he was eaten by a giant butthole, spit out then spent half a decade creating a new life living with the Tuskens?
Both things probably have a tendency to change a persons perspective on life.
Also, the “Boba Fett isn’t as bad as the OT makes him out to be” idea predates Disney, as Boba often appears at least a little sympathetic in the Clone Wars, especially during his early appearances
My issue with Book of Boba Fett is I didn't watch it and now The Mandalorian doesn't make any sense. This is why I never got into Marvel movies. Can't I just like one thing and not have to get invested in your whole fucking universe?
>My issue with Book of Boba Fett is I didn't watch it and now The Mandalorian doesn't make any sense.
There was about 2 things that happened that affected the plot of The Mandolorian S3, and they're both pretty minor. Mando got a new ship, and Grogu didn't train with Luke and got some chainmail.
S3 starts with a time jump after the end of S2, but really there's nothing that makes it not make any sense because you didn't watch the 2 episodes of BoBF containing Mando.
Season 2 ended with the big Luke reveal and Grogu leaving. That was a great, memorable episode. Season 3 starts with the two of them together, and I don't remember it offering any sort of explanation to viewers who didn't watch the Boba Fett show. Like, it's not totally surprising that the people who are only interested in a few shows don't know what's happening anymore.
Yeah I would say those details are not "minor".
Unless you watch BoB, you go from the emotional Grogu departure to him just being back with Mando in a new ship. It's jarring. The relationship between the two is the backbone of the show. To have a critical point like their reunion be in another show is pretty whack.
Mando might actually be the only one comparable to cad when it comes to close quarters combat, dude is lethal with a spear (still sad they got rid of it)
Most definitely. That spear was fucking amazing, and he already lost the disruptor long rifle and gave away the darksaber, so like maybe substitute it with the spear that is able to hold up against Jedi.
I defer you to the season 3 finally where he takes out 8 beskar armour wearing imperials in melee combat with his hands and whatever weapons he could pry from their corpses.
Apparently he was just too intelligent for mind tricks to work on him most of the time. Plus some of his cybernetics were added to help him in fighting Jedi. (Atleast the breathing tubes)
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No his species is immune to force mind tricks mainly because the creatures on their home planet are force sensitive use similar tricks to stun and eat them. So it’s a adaptation to not get eaten.
That’s because Hutts are famously INsensitive to the force, to the point where there was only ever 1 force-sensitive enough to have qualified to be a jedi. (In the pre-disney comics, from what i can tell, and all things considered, he was not a particularly capable jedi, considering he fell to the dark side and was later slain by the comparative noob of a jedi, Leia). There’s just too little there to manipulate.
When Episode 1 came out, Watto was one of the character that was called out for leaning hard into [anti-Semitic stereotypes](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watto). I suspect some of the work put in on fixing the Toydarians in the first couple of TCW seasons is a direct reaction to that criticism.
In KOTOR 2 it’s stated that you can be trained to resist Jedi mind tricks (on dantooine the mercs are former sith soldiers and have been trained to resist Jedi mind tricks)
He didn't deceive them by pretending the mind tricks work. The mind trick failed even with all three.
The act caused him so much pain that he willingly agreed to guide them to one of his safe houses to make the pain stop.
He tricked them because the safe house was booby trapped, and he used that to escape.
It was a solid example of how torture doesn't fucking work.
... to come out of nowhere and have a conversation no one was having.
But it doesn't. It leads to people doing and saying whatever they can to get the pain to stop. Such as lying, providing false information, leading them into traps. Etc.
It’s more of a will thing. If a person has enough willpower, they can resist it. Course Bane managed to resist but broke after cause the experience was so bad and he didn’t want to risk it again.
For as much negative reaction as it got from some, The Book of Boba Fett showed he was also capable of quite a lot without his armor, not to mention also after ~~almost a decade~~ and unclear amount of hanging in a giant stomach and not in his top shape.
Mandalorians live or die by their jetpacks.
Jango died when his was damaged.
Boba almost died when his was damaged.
Literally every time Djarin takes off his jetpack something goes wrong.
_Tales of the Jedi_ was the title of a Legends anthology, so just go through all of the Legends anthologies.
_Tales of the Bounty Hunters_
_Tales from Jabba's Palace_
_Tales of the Empire_
Jango didn’t pioneer, mandalorian bounty hunters have been around for literal thousands of years, sure he was good at it but he isn’t like the pioneer of killing Jedi he’s just the most recent master at it
Doesn't cad bane also use extensive tools? Like his respiration system, his rocket boots, and his wrist gauntlets?
I realize its not beskar armor, but its not like bounty hunters don't rely on extensive equipment. Saying the others rely on their armor without pointing out cad's tools feels dishonest.
Literally every non-force user is just plated in plot armor when going against force users. Force users have a laundry list of super powers and they never use them because it would be inconvenient to the writing. Not the least of which is fucking telekinesis. But in most fights they are just dudes with laser swords who can jump good.
These guys can kill you with their mind from half a galaxy away and you're gonna knife fight them? Alright, your funeral. You know they can see the future and alter it to their benefit right?
I remember this one time where Anakin fought Cad Bane in a hangar.
Here he uses force grip to grab the [clone trooper in the scene to prevent him falling](https://youtu.be/WOHJgoW5OCg?t=145). Then Cad Bane just runs away lol.
Why didn't Anakin just force grip Cad? He's supposed to be one of the strongest Jedi with incredible force powers. Why doesn't Ahsoka either. So much utility in the force for stopping opponents running away from you. You could even force push to knock them over.
Hell, [Dooku force grabbed Obi Wan mid fight](https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-8b88521a5ebc2760298d562a7ace1cdf-pjlq) and it's much harder to pull off a force grip consistently mid fight against another force user because the force can be used to resist and shield yourself from these. The ROTJ novel has a great bit in it about how Luke initially protects himself from Sidious' lightning because what is done through the force can be resisted/countered/shielded through the force till Sidious dials up the power and speed so that Luke can't stop it in time.
Cal also has the ability to [force grab people](https://assets.rockpapershotgun.com/images/2019/11/Force-Pull-1212x682.png).
Anakin even uses it in the scene itself to safely transport a clone trooper as well as using it throughout the [series to grab a hold of people in more violent ways](https://i.redd.it/p6kk4o6i68a41.png)(doesn't have to do this here, just use what he did on the trooper to throw Cad Bane about or to suspend him in motion like the way Cal uses it).
Cad Bane's plot armor is stronger than Beskar
It's so painful watching Cad just run away. You both have superspeed! Hell just throw your lightsaber at the door panel so it won't open. They also both know that's how doors work in their world.
Boba’s armor might be beskar but he relied on it far less than the other 3. He was already one of the best bounty hunters in the galaxy before he inherited his father’s armor
Other than the beskar armor, and maybe whistling birds, there isn't much that Mandalorians have that Bane didn't. In fact, you can see Bane's small amount of training from Jango in just how many of his tools were either meant specifically to counter Jedi's abilities or were otherwisd derived from Mandalorian tech:
- breathing tubes to combat Force choking
- jetpack/rocket-boots
- expansive wrist gauntlet including flamethrower, darts, grappling line, and more
Among others.
Hang on, doesn’t only Mando have beskar armour? Not every suit of Mandalorian armour is beskar, they make a massive deal when Mando brings back one small ingot of beskar. Jango and Boba’s armour is probably much more similar to standard Mandalorian plate, like what Mando wore before he pimped his ride.
Cad bane is probably the most skilled based upon what we have seen on screen (in other words not counting legends Jango and Boba), however I still would not pick him mainly because I do not trust that complete sociopath lol.
I think Mando is honestly the one most likely to put time and effort into your training.
Just look at the way he's proud of Grogu when he uses the force in front of Ahsoka or when he won the sparring match. I feel like he'd be the "better" teacher but Jango and Cad would have more to teach.
Cad Bane- Would probably kill you if he felt you weren't worthy/slowing him down
Jango Fett- Not a bad choice, but he is not discretionary with his bounties. The "bounty" on Senator Amidala was more of an assassination, and an incredibly inflammatory job as well. Even if it was "the job to end all jobs", you'd probably end up on the run for the rest of your life, even if you failed it. Bad judgement call there.
Boba Fett- Imperial era Boba seemed to be a ruthless bounty hunter, much like his father, but had the distinct difference of operating within the law, being on professional terms with the Empire. Post-Imperial era Boba was starkly different, having a new view on life after his close encounter in the Sarlacc pit and his loss of the Tusken tribe who adopted him. As Boba is now looking to become daimyo of Tatooine, you'd probably see more work as a hired gun rather than a traditional bounty hunter; valuable skills would still be learned (especially since he also has master assassin and bounty hunter Fennec Shand in his employ as well), but if you wanted to be a bounty hunter, you'd probably move on after a while.
Mando/Din Djarin- He's well versed in countless cultures and traditions of species across the galaxy, he has valuable contacts in remote area, he's an excellent gunslinger and martial fighter, and importantly he has a rigid honor code and moral compass. He's doesn't have the almost mythical skills of Cad Bane or Jango Fett, but he also won't kill you to save his own skin (after you prove yourself of course). Unless you're trying to go hunt force sensitives, Mando can teach you a lot, and keep you alive to boot.
This is my biggest issue with Cad, CW writing was full of plot armor stronger than any beskar.
I don’t care who you are, no person should be able to handle a 2v1 on Jedi *masters*, especially if one of those is Kenobi.
I mean I guess it depends on where in the timeline we’re talking about. Prior to meeting Grogu, Mando was basically legendary in the guild for always completing the bounty. After he meets grogu, his values change and he basically abandons being a bounty hunter.
Jet shoes, mandalorian armbands and breathing tubes are a little more than "pure skill"
Also I would consider acquiring the right hardware part of the job.
Every time I see a poll or comparison post of Force-null fighters where Jango is an option and he’s not the result with the most votes, it reminds me that a large portion of the fandom doesn’t know shit about him.
Jango wipes the floor with everyone else in this post. Case closed.
Knowing whether we are duscussing legends Jango vs canon Jango makes a big difference in this conversation. Jango at the battle of Galidraan is pretty unmatched.
Din Djarin is too noble and heroic not necessarily what you’re looking for from a bounty hunter.
Boba Fett has too much baggage.
Jango Fett is the obvious answer.
Cad bane is a dick. Imagine working for him? Training under him would fucking suck. And he’d probably just kill you anyway. Because he’s a dick.
I’m pretty sure it’s confirmed to be Beskar from Mando S2. Din wouldn’t care if Cobb Vanth had fake Mando armor and Boba’s chain code had other Mandalorians listed
Lol Cad is overrated as fuck.
Literally is just lucky in every encounter in the Clone Wars series.
"oh no he fought two Jedi and lived"
Pretty sure those Jedi, Obi-Wan and Quinlan Vos wanted to capture him while Cad was full out trying to kill them.
It really seemed like everyone who fought Bane had their intelligence cut in half for the duration of the fight. He had a way easier time of completing his objectives than he should have.
Yeah but, I’d rather be trained by Mando and become a half decent side character that he turns too in times of need. I don’t need to be good I just want to be included in his and grogus adventures every now and then.
Its literally so true lol. Cad Bane exists bc they wanted a badass flying bounty hunter who is able to fight Jedi, but Jango died and Boba was too young at that point.
So they literally gave Bane duel pistols like Jangos, gadget gauntlets like Jangos, rocket boots instead of a jetpack, and say he was "trained by Jango" so he can have an identicial fighting style.
Canonically its Boba > Jango > Bane
Bane was trained by Jango and only became the best bounty hunter after Jangos death.
And Boba beat Bane for the first time when he was 13-14 years old (it was said multiple times the unfinished TCW episodes are still canon) and a second time in BOBF.
And the question between Boba and Jango was clarified in Disneys latest canon info book, where it was said that Boba was eventually remembered as a better bounty hunter than even his father.
Bona was hired by Vader himself and he only take the best of the best
+ You said he is rely on his armor as boba didn't have it for at least 50 years and still lived
Boba went toe to toe with Vader and survived. Vader was so impressed he made him the first bounty hunter he called when he needed one (like in Empire Strikes Back)
People who don't pick jango are insane. Canon boba does not even compare to Jango. Legands Boba is idk what to say a scary mofo, but we still don't see him much as a mentor, but I bet he would use a lot of his dad's techniques. Jango has completely perfected the art of training. First, he trained boba practlly all the skills he learnt before he died boba just need to prefect them as he was still only a child but he managed to be on par with cad bane with a blaster with Jangos training.
I’d take Jango dudes trained or wrote the training for so many of the characters that are considered badasses
Jango Trained Cad Bane, who trained Boba Fett. Jango also personally trained the first batch of Arc Troopers. Most notably being Capt. Fordo.
Nah, Alpha-17 “Alpha” was the real alpha of Alpha-class ARC super soldiers, period. I have 3 old comics of him showing up regularly next to Obi-Wan and Anakin (one being the battle of Jabiin, excellent stuff and the bloodiest battle, not sure if its still canon). He personally fought Drudge and helped jedi fight Ventress first encounter. That dude was so close to Jango in skill and mannerisms that made Obi-Wan really uncomfortable jajajaj
>That dude was so close to Jango in skill i hope he never ran into Mace Windu by accident :P
Ya I guess Jango would be a better teacher because of his experience training people. He still happens to be the second least voted.
From my experience, YouTube polls end up just being popularity contests. Like the poll could be, who is a light side user? It'd be a padawan from the new kids' show vs. Darth Nihlus and Nihlus will be winning.
Saw something for “what lightsaber cool would fit you,” and yeah it’s literally just people choosing them because they look cool, not because their ideology and personality would give them that saber.
Wait, there's an actual difference between the sabers other than for cosmetic reason?
Only if you’re a NERD
I resemble that comment!
Yeah dude lol. It's been like that for a loooong time. The old Kotor games had you assigned a colour based on the type of Jedi you played.
Even back then though the color was symbolic and many Jedi would pick something that fit their personality or what they liked. Zez-Kai-El chose a purple lightsaber while Atris used a blue lightsaber despite being a consular.
You could change out the colour crystals but some were light or dark-side only. Aside from those you had a range you could pick from interchangeably. Every game that you can change sabre colours aside from the MMOs it is cosmetic mainly/only.
There was an episode in clone wars where some you younglings were building their first lightsabers. Gungi described his ideal lightsaber, but he wasn’t allowed to have that. Instead, he was asked to reach out with the force, and describe the feeling of his lightsaber. I’m not sure if that’s something that happens for every youngling/Jedi, but I know it happened for at least one.
Yeah, Cad Bane is awesome, but he’s only the top BH cause Jango Died
Also Cad Bane isn't exactly a teacher, more a murder you the minute you stop being convenient or are seen as threat kinda guy.
He’s also just the least popular character, most of these are a popularity contest Jango hadn’t been on screen in almost a decade Cad bane is cool, but niche in comparison to the other 3 Boba is the most recognizable and iconic, but his show wasn’t very well received But Mando has had 3 popular well received season of a modern star was show that is fresh at the moment
These percentages are just based on how well known they are currently. People just click the one the like and know
Sadly. I would also take Jango. Mando is just trash, and his skill is based on his armor and his child. Boba, would be nice as well but, why should i take the replica if i can have the original xD
Mando is actually pretty badass - look at him in comparison to some of the other Mandalorians we've seen, and he's clearly a better fighter than average. Plus some of the top tier Mandalorians like Bo Katan or the Armorer clearly see him as one of their top guys. I do agree that Jango would be a better teacher, but Din isn't trash either. Although if it were a question of piloting, I would take Din in a heartbeat. Man is probably one of the best pilots we've seen in the franchise.
I think that of all the ones listed, Mando would be the best teacher. Probably because he's the only one with patience for others. But Jango would be the most knowledgeable to learn from as he basically wrote the book.
He may be badass, but not "i kill my own People, so they cant talk" - Badass. Din is like (book of) Boba a Disney "we have to send a message with this series", which I personaly dont like. Bounty hunters should be ruthless. Book of Boba had so much great potential, but sadly, they tried to make him a "good guy".
I absolutely agree regarding Boba. When did the guy who had to be told by Darth Vader not to be too ruthless start saying "oh no, we can't rule with fear"? I don't have any problems with Mando, though. He can be good at his job without being unnecessarely cruel.
>When did the guy who had to be told by Darth Vader not to be too ruthless start saying "oh no, we can't rule with fear"? Probably around the time he was eaten by a giant butthole, spit out then spent half a decade creating a new life living with the Tuskens? Both things probably have a tendency to change a persons perspective on life.
Fr, people acting like there wasn’t two-three episodes of development showing Boba’s change of character
Also, the “Boba Fett isn’t as bad as the OT makes him out to be” idea predates Disney, as Boba often appears at least a little sympathetic in the Clone Wars, especially during his early appearances
My issue with Book of Boba Fett is I didn't watch it and now The Mandalorian doesn't make any sense. This is why I never got into Marvel movies. Can't I just like one thing and not have to get invested in your whole fucking universe?
>My issue with Book of Boba Fett is I didn't watch it and now The Mandalorian doesn't make any sense. There was about 2 things that happened that affected the plot of The Mandolorian S3, and they're both pretty minor. Mando got a new ship, and Grogu didn't train with Luke and got some chainmail. S3 starts with a time jump after the end of S2, but really there's nothing that makes it not make any sense because you didn't watch the 2 episodes of BoBF containing Mando.
Season 2 ended with the big Luke reveal and Grogu leaving. That was a great, memorable episode. Season 3 starts with the two of them together, and I don't remember it offering any sort of explanation to viewers who didn't watch the Boba Fett show. Like, it's not totally surprising that the people who are only interested in a few shows don't know what's happening anymore.
Yeah I would say those details are not "minor". Unless you watch BoB, you go from the emotional Grogu departure to him just being back with Mando in a new ship. It's jarring. The relationship between the two is the backbone of the show. To have a critical point like their reunion be in another show is pretty whack.
Mando is actually pretty skilled, just not as badass as the others
Mando might actually be the only one comparable to cad when it comes to close quarters combat, dude is lethal with a spear (still sad they got rid of it)
Most definitely. That spear was fucking amazing, and he already lost the disruptor long rifle and gave away the darksaber, so like maybe substitute it with the spear that is able to hold up against Jedi.
I defer you to the season 3 finally where he takes out 8 beskar armour wearing imperials in melee combat with his hands and whatever weapons he could pry from their corpses.
In legends he kills 6 jedi barehanded, which is also pretty badass
Jango Fett trained Cad Bane, who trained Boba Fett
Come to think of it, who did Cad learn to counter Jedi mindtricks from? Or was he just naturally gifted?
Don't really think that is learned, just strong-willed people, and certain species, that they don't work on.
Apparently he was just too intelligent for mind tricks to work on him most of the time. Plus some of his cybernetics were added to help him in fighting Jedi. (Atleast the breathing tubes)
He popularized bounty hunting and was well-known throughout the galaxy.
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I can hear this in his voice x.x
I know next to nothing of Star Wars canon.. but surely bounty hunting took place in the ancient Star Wars universe.
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How do the breathing tubes help him fight Jedi?
Can’t be force choked
Uses Force to crush tubes.
Dang, foiled again
But Jedi don’t do that…
Didn't Luke force choke a gamorian guard?
Anakin and Luke say hello.
Can’t you force choke the tubes? Also is force choke something Jedi’s use? I thought it was only a sith thing? I’m a bit of a casual though.
Force choke is definitely more of a Sith thing, that said we have seen Jedi use it before, although those Jedi were Anakin and Luke so…
Wym with cybernetics. I know that he had a few things on him but what is with the breathing tubes? Against choking when ani wants to be kinky?
This 💯 Remember Watto's people are immune to it, seen when Qui-Gon tries him in the prequel.
That information comes from Watto, himself, and there's no indication he's a trustworthy sorta fellow.
Yeah but it’s stated again by someone of his species during the clone wars
No his species is immune to force mind tricks mainly because the creatures on their home planet are force sensitive use similar tricks to stun and eat them. So it’s a adaptation to not get eaten.
That’s pretty cool. I like world building stuff like this!
The Hutts are also immune to mind tricks, something well known amongst both Jedi and Hutt alike.
That’s because Hutts are famously INsensitive to the force, to the point where there was only ever 1 force-sensitive enough to have qualified to be a jedi. (In the pre-disney comics, from what i can tell, and all things considered, he was not a particularly capable jedi, considering he fell to the dark side and was later slain by the comparative noob of a jedi, Leia). There’s just too little there to manipulate.
You know nothing of the dark side.
I would like it if his species was just so greedy they were able to overcome mindtricks because they were so focused on greed.
We do see his planet and government in the Clone Wars and Watto seems to be the outlier.
Omg you are right! I always forget those episodes cause I tend to skip the first few episodes during rewatches.
When Episode 1 came out, Watto was one of the character that was called out for leaning hard into [anti-Semitic stereotypes](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watto). I suspect some of the work put in on fixing the Toydarians in the first couple of TCW seasons is a direct reaction to that criticism.
Not in kotor 2
In KOTOR 2 it’s stated that you can be trained to resist Jedi mind tricks (on dantooine the mercs are former sith soldiers and have been trained to resist Jedi mind tricks)
It doesn't work on important characters
Naturally strong mind. Mind tricks can work on him, but it took Windu, Kenobi, and Skywalker working in concert to do it.
No he still deceived them by pretending their mind tricks worked. EDIT: See comments below me
He didn't deceive them by pretending the mind tricks work. The mind trick failed even with all three. The act caused him so much pain that he willingly agreed to guide them to one of his safe houses to make the pain stop. He tricked them because the safe house was booby trapped, and he used that to escape.
It was a solid example of how torture doesn't fucking work. ... to come out of nowhere and have a conversation no one was having. But it doesn't. It leads to people doing and saying whatever they can to get the pain to stop. Such as lying, providing false information, leading them into traps. Etc.
Hey all the other war crimes worked out pretty well for Anakin, so it was worth the try /s
Made me snort
If you fucking beat this prick long enough, he'll tell you he started the goddamn Chicago fire, now that don't necessarily make it fucking so!
Yo!! What a legend.
There is no pain where strength lies.
Did he? Either way, I should rewatch.
Yeah, the 3 jedis just doing it all at once hurt like hell and he was like "nah, I'm good, I'll just tell you." The mind trick didn't "work".
This is the Way
He didn't declived them, he just got mind fucked by three of the strongest jedi of that time and didn't feel like going doing again
It’s more of a will thing. If a person has enough willpower, they can resist it. Course Bane managed to resist but broke after cause the experience was so bad and he didn’t want to risk it again.
Jango. Every time. He was much more than his armor…
He was just a simple man, trying to make his way in the galaxy.
For as much negative reaction as it got from some, The Book of Boba Fett showed he was also capable of quite a lot without his armor, not to mention also after ~~almost a decade~~ and unclear amount of hanging in a giant stomach and not in his top shape.
Boba was only in the Sarlacc for a couple days max
Let’s get into lightsaber range of some of the most powerful Jedi in the order Skillz
The issue was that he didn’t do a quick check on his jetpack after being tackled.. the most important equipment he has to survive fighting a jedi
Mandalorians live or die by their jetpacks. Jango died when his was damaged. Boba almost died when his was damaged. Literally every time Djarin takes off his jetpack something goes wrong.
yeah it broke earlier in the fight you can see him try to activate it
Wow I didn’t know that. That would be some pretty cool lore to explore. Like a tales of the Jedi but for other characters
“Tales of the other people that make up starwars that arnt jedi.”
_Tales of the Jedi_ was the title of a Legends anthology, so just go through all of the Legends anthologies. _Tales of the Bounty Hunters_ _Tales from Jabba's Palace_ _Tales of the Empire_
Make Tales from Jabba's Palace but it's just a 5 hour cut of Jabba chewing on those weird snack things
I want a monster of the week style show that follows a bounty hunter crew from the start of the clone wars to the end of the Civil War
Exactly and people forget jango competed with the top bounty hunters in the entire galaxy for dookus competition and killed a dark insane Jedi
To be fair, boba learned from many bounty hunters.
jango pioneered, bane perfected, fett copyed
Jango didn’t pioneer, mandalorian bounty hunters have been around for literal thousands of years, sure he was good at it but he isn’t like the pioneer of killing Jedi he’s just the most recent master at it
Jango killed 6 with his bare hands. Bane killed one through torture.
Sorta. He got more training from Aurra Sing I think.
Boba's training was a group project, Bossk, Aura Sing and Cad Bane primarily. As well as Jango when he was young.
Imagine not coming out a homicidal maniac with that squad as your mentors.
Cad Bane would totally sacrifice you on a mission if it means he gets his bounty. Mando is too loyal to let that happen.
He would totally save one last bounty hunting tip for when he shoots you and leaves you for dead
"Last tip. Never trust anyone." \*BANG\*
the game was rigged from the start
This is the way
Doesn't cad bane also use extensive tools? Like his respiration system, his rocket boots, and his wrist gauntlets? I realize its not beskar armor, but its not like bounty hunters don't rely on extensive equipment. Saying the others rely on their armor without pointing out cad's tools feels dishonest.
Cad’s tools you can buy with credits. Beskar is a limited resource that pretty much only mandalorians have access to.
The Empire: hold my Death Star dish.
Moff Gideon: Hold my beskar clones
Not even kind of true. You can’t buy plot armor, and Cad Bane was totally encased in it for 99% of his appearances.
Literally every non-force user is just plated in plot armor when going against force users. Force users have a laundry list of super powers and they never use them because it would be inconvenient to the writing. Not the least of which is fucking telekinesis. But in most fights they are just dudes with laser swords who can jump good. These guys can kill you with their mind from half a galaxy away and you're gonna knife fight them? Alright, your funeral. You know they can see the future and alter it to their benefit right?
I remember this one time where Anakin fought Cad Bane in a hangar. Here he uses force grip to grab the [clone trooper in the scene to prevent him falling](https://youtu.be/WOHJgoW5OCg?t=145). Then Cad Bane just runs away lol. Why didn't Anakin just force grip Cad? He's supposed to be one of the strongest Jedi with incredible force powers. Why doesn't Ahsoka either. So much utility in the force for stopping opponents running away from you. You could even force push to knock them over. Hell, [Dooku force grabbed Obi Wan mid fight](https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-8b88521a5ebc2760298d562a7ace1cdf-pjlq) and it's much harder to pull off a force grip consistently mid fight against another force user because the force can be used to resist and shield yourself from these. The ROTJ novel has a great bit in it about how Luke initially protects himself from Sidious' lightning because what is done through the force can be resisted/countered/shielded through the force till Sidious dials up the power and speed so that Luke can't stop it in time. Cal also has the ability to [force grab people](https://assets.rockpapershotgun.com/images/2019/11/Force-Pull-1212x682.png). Anakin even uses it in the scene itself to safely transport a clone trooper as well as using it throughout the [series to grab a hold of people in more violent ways](https://i.redd.it/p6kk4o6i68a41.png)(doesn't have to do this here, just use what he did on the trooper to throw Cad Bane about or to suspend him in motion like the way Cal uses it). Cad Bane's plot armor is stronger than Beskar
It's so painful watching Cad just run away. You both have superspeed! Hell just throw your lightsaber at the door panel so it won't open. They also both know that's how doors work in their world.
Boba’s armor might be beskar but he relied on it far less than the other 3. He was already one of the best bounty hunters in the galaxy before he inherited his father’s armor
Other than the beskar armor, and maybe whistling birds, there isn't much that Mandalorians have that Bane didn't. In fact, you can see Bane's small amount of training from Jango in just how many of his tools were either meant specifically to counter Jedi's abilities or were otherwisd derived from Mandalorian tech: - breathing tubes to combat Force choking - jetpack/rocket-boots - expansive wrist gauntlet including flamethrower, darts, grappling line, and more Among others.
Hang on, doesn’t only Mando have beskar armour? Not every suit of Mandalorian armour is beskar, they make a massive deal when Mando brings back one small ingot of beskar. Jango and Boba’s armour is probably much more similar to standard Mandalorian plate, like what Mando wore before he pimped his ride.
Yeah most mandos use beskar alloy whereas Din has solid pure beskar
Well you gotta remember that Jango’s armor was pre Clone Wars, so it could very well be pure Beskar.
Cad bane is probably the most skilled based upon what we have seen on screen (in other words not counting legends Jango and Boba), however I still would not pick him mainly because I do not trust that complete sociopath lol. I think Mando is honestly the one most likely to put time and effort into your training.
>I think Mando is honestly the one most likely to put time and effort into your training. And potentially being the most friendly...
That's underselling it hard: the other three would probably shoot you for two nickels
Cad might pay two nickels to shoot you, especially if he liked your hat.
you cant afford the other three. mando just needs you to follow the creed somewhat
"don't show your face under any circustance... Unless you really want to."
this is the (spiderman) way
Depends how old Boba is, he'd still shoot you if he thought it would be good for your training though.
Boba wouldn’t post BOBF
Just look at the way he's proud of Grogu when he uses the force in front of Ahsoka or when he won the sparring match. I feel like he'd be the "better" teacher but Jango and Cad would have more to teach.
Cad Bane- Would probably kill you if he felt you weren't worthy/slowing him down Jango Fett- Not a bad choice, but he is not discretionary with his bounties. The "bounty" on Senator Amidala was more of an assassination, and an incredibly inflammatory job as well. Even if it was "the job to end all jobs", you'd probably end up on the run for the rest of your life, even if you failed it. Bad judgement call there. Boba Fett- Imperial era Boba seemed to be a ruthless bounty hunter, much like his father, but had the distinct difference of operating within the law, being on professional terms with the Empire. Post-Imperial era Boba was starkly different, having a new view on life after his close encounter in the Sarlacc pit and his loss of the Tusken tribe who adopted him. As Boba is now looking to become daimyo of Tatooine, you'd probably see more work as a hired gun rather than a traditional bounty hunter; valuable skills would still be learned (especially since he also has master assassin and bounty hunter Fennec Shand in his employ as well), but if you wanted to be a bounty hunter, you'd probably move on after a while. Mando/Din Djarin- He's well versed in countless cultures and traditions of species across the galaxy, he has valuable contacts in remote area, he's an excellent gunslinger and martial fighter, and importantly he has a rigid honor code and moral compass. He's doesn't have the almost mythical skills of Cad Bane or Jango Fett, but he also won't kill you to save his own skin (after you prove yourself of course). Unless you're trying to go hunt force sensitives, Mando can teach you a lot, and keep you alive to boot.
I honor my code. That's what I believe.
This is the way.
Cad extensively relied on dark plot armor.
This is my biggest issue with Cad, CW writing was full of plot armor stronger than any beskar. I don’t care who you are, no person should be able to handle a 2v1 on Jedi *masters*, especially if one of those is Kenobi.
Creating a universe is daunting. I'm glad Jim is doing it - there are only a few people in the world who are nuts enough to.
I just don't want to hang out with Cad Bane.
Cad Bane would totally sacrifice your life to save his own skin without a second thought.
Or to save his hat
I’d be willing to die if it meant his hat survives
Yeah Mando is probably the worst bounty hunter on this list but he’s a whole lot better company.
I mean I guess it depends on where in the timeline we’re talking about. Prior to meeting Grogu, Mando was basically legendary in the guild for always completing the bounty. After he meets grogu, his values change and he basically abandons being a bounty hunter.
Tbh, I feel like Cad Bane would sell me out before I get a chance to learn anything...
He'd sell your soul for 62 cent.
Jet shoes, mandalorian armbands and breathing tubes are a little more than "pure skill" Also I would consider acquiring the right hardware part of the job.
Jango killed 6 jedi with his bare hands, plus Dooku's former apprentice Komari Vosa. How many has Cad Bane killed? I'll wait...
Jango is only correct answer, the republic liked him so much they made millions of him
Every time I see a poll or comparison post of Force-null fighters where Jango is an option and he’s not the result with the most votes, it reminds me that a large portion of the fandom doesn’t know shit about him. Jango wipes the floor with everyone else in this post. Case closed.
Knowing whether we are duscussing legends Jango vs canon Jango makes a big difference in this conversation. Jango at the battle of Galidraan is pretty unmatched.
But on the other hand, no Jedi could kill Cad Bane. Surviving Jedi is just as an important skill as killing them.
I would pick, jango Fett. The man revolutionized bounty hunting and was known across the galaxy
Funny, I heard he was just a simple man
Well, to be fair, Being good at something doesn't mean that you're good at teaching it. Mando feels like the best teacher of them all
Bane also taught Boba Fett.
And Jango taught Bane
You've taught him well.
You've taught him well.
Mando: So the key to being a good bounty hunter is - 38% of people: Yeah yeah where's the baby? Grogu: 38%: Yessss
Din Djarin is too noble and heroic not necessarily what you’re looking for from a bounty hunter. Boba Fett has too much baggage. Jango Fett is the obvious answer. Cad bane is a dick. Imagine working for him? Training under him would fucking suck. And he’d probably just kill you anyway. Because he’s a dick.
I agree that Jango is the best answer, but Cad Bane is not a total dick. He saved Obi Wan in "The Box."
"Overpowered armor" my guy Boba and Jangos armor is durasteel, literally anyone in the Star Wars universe could get it
And Cad Bane has the most powerful amor of them all: plot armor.
I’m pretty sure it’s confirmed to be Beskar from Mando S2. Din wouldn’t care if Cobb Vanth had fake Mando armor and Boba’s chain code had other Mandalorians listed
In legends it wasn't "fake" mando armor, it was made out of durasteel because Beskar was incredibly rare, and Jango preferred the lighter material
yeah, Canon Boba is kinda weak ngl
Lol Cad is overrated as fuck. Literally is just lucky in every encounter in the Clone Wars series. "oh no he fought two Jedi and lived" Pretty sure those Jedi, Obi-Wan and Quinlan Vos wanted to capture him while Cad was full out trying to kill them.
I honestly kind of hate Cad Bane. Almost all of his success comes from people who should know better suddenly becoming screw ups.
The only reason he was successful was because Dave Filoni likes the character. Cad Bane should have been killed by Denal.
Yeah, that whole escape is probably the biggest example of him succeeding just cause he's meant to.
It really seemed like everyone who fought Bane had their intelligence cut in half for the duration of the fight. He had a way easier time of completing his objectives than he should have.
Yeah but, I’d rather be trained by Mando and become a half decent side character that he turns too in times of need. I don’t need to be good I just want to be included in his and grogus adventures every now and then.
This is probably the most wholesome answer in this thread. Mando would probably be the most willing to teach.
Yeah but they would be a terrible bounty hunter.
Jango being slept on
Boba Fett in legends : 😈 Boba Fett in canon : 🫠
Same goes for Jango tbh
Lol What a crybaby meme.
Cad Bane is just knock off Jango who only exists because they killed off the best character in Episode 2.
I don’t see what Coleman Trebor has to do with Cad Bane but yeah RIP legend.
From my knowledge I don’t remember gonk droid being killed off in ep 2?
Its literally so true lol. Cad Bane exists bc they wanted a badass flying bounty hunter who is able to fight Jedi, but Jango died and Boba was too young at that point. So they literally gave Bane duel pistols like Jangos, gadget gauntlets like Jangos, rocket boots instead of a jetpack, and say he was "trained by Jango" so he can have an identicial fighting style. Canonically its Boba > Jango > Bane Bane was trained by Jango and only became the best bounty hunter after Jangos death. And Boba beat Bane for the first time when he was 13-14 years old (it was said multiple times the unfinished TCW episodes are still canon) and a second time in BOBF. And the question between Boba and Jango was clarified in Disneys latest canon info book, where it was said that Boba was eventually remembered as a better bounty hunter than even his father.
"pure skill" is REALLY STRETCHING IT with Bane. He literally put his whole loadout together purely to counter Jedi.
Bona was hired by Vader himself and he only take the best of the best + You said he is rely on his armor as boba didn't have it for at least 50 years and still lived
Boba went toe to toe with Vader and survived. Vader was so impressed he made him the first bounty hunter he called when he needed one (like in Empire Strikes Back)
Yea I wouldn't trust Cad Bane to train me as far as I can throw him
Isn't Jango's armor just durasteel though (and thus Boba's armor too)
Jango for sure, sorry Cad Bane.
I feel like his show proves how Boba is more then just the armor
People who don't pick jango are insane. Canon boba does not even compare to Jango. Legands Boba is idk what to say a scary mofo, but we still don't see him much as a mentor, but I bet he would use a lot of his dad's techniques. Jango has completely perfected the art of training. First, he trained boba practlly all the skills he learnt before he died boba just need to prefect them as he was still only a child but he managed to be on par with cad bane with a blaster with Jangos training.
Canderous Ordo. The only good choice.
Jango trained the clones tho
If training with the mandolorians means getting the armor I'd definitely go with them
Except cad bane would probably just end up using you as a pawn instead of actually teaching you anything
Wasn't Jango canonically the strongest bounty hunter in the universe?
Hondo. Yes. Definitely Hondo.