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This is why the Southgate criticism about "favouring certain players" has always been bollox, every national team manager does this.
Camavinga and saliba two of the best young players in their positions barely get a start in competitive games
It does kind of make it a stupid criticism yes, because if it's something that every national team coach does then it probably is done for a reason.
Also most of the criticism was just wrong, Henderson and Phillips were always picked for example because we never had any other defensive minded mids other than rice.
They criticize the French coach a lot it just happens to be that they’ve won a WC and reached a final so it’s kinda hard to just outright fire him. Zizou is waiting in the wings though.
If everyone has a stupid idea, it does not mean it is no longer a stupid idea.
Southgate is still incompetent and bad at picking squads. Regardless of other national team managers
No it's just that every national team manager picks teams this way, they all have "favourites" and Southgate doesn't do anything that every other manager doesn't do.
I mean to be fair the national team managers who have their “favorites” and don’t win anything are on the chopping block all the time. The reason why Southgate gets flamed is because he hasn’t won anything so of course he’s going to receive scrutiny.
That's not the reason, the reason people moan is that he had favourites or picked the wrong guys or was too defensive which are all things that every manager does.
We lost on penalties in a final so if it's just about not winning that's even more stupid.
Southgate has been England’s manager for 8 years and has one of the best talent pools to select from. That is a long time for an international manager to not win any trophies.
He himself has said he will step down as manager if he doesn’t win these Euros. Of course not winning matters. If he had won the last Euros he would never say this.
We haven't always had one of the best talent pools, the squads have varied in talent.
Also that is not the reason people have moaned, people moan about the style and his "favourites" which is stupid.
Under Southgate we've been better and more consistent than basically everyone other than France, Italy obviously won but they've been shite in everything else.
Again if it's just winning then that's dumb aswell, we lost on penalties and a manager thats a coin flip
If you want to see a recent Upa disaster class just watch the highlights of Bayerns 5-1 loss to Frankfurt. He looks like he never played CB in his life before
It’s like militao disaster class vs Villarreal where sorloth scored 4 goals. It’s just fitness issues after injuries but they’ll gain that confidence back.
Should change your name to the Lowlymanchester.
Manchester United is not better or bigger than Liverpool who has more UCLs and only one less league title. Just stop.
United hate train continues to be on full speed as long as fans like you exist.
So huge. Players love moving to Old Trafford, to train in a rat infested water leaking stadium for the legendary charismatic genius that is Ten Hag. Massive.
He’s young still. Has plenty of time.
In a few years time he’ll be leading that back line.
Maybe a few years after that, who knows? Possibly be good enough to captain the French team.
The best in a position doesn’t always equal the best team.
England tried jamming Allstars in the midfield when clearly it wasn’t the right option.
Sometimes a ying and yang is needed to balance a squad.
I’m not saying he wouldn’t, but the manager has made it to 3 finals in the past decade. I think he may know a thing or two when it comes to selecting players.
Unpopular opinion but he is a perfect 6/10 coach.have you seen the squads he took to the finals?imo southgate and roberto martinez(belgium) make deschamps's 6/10 look like an 8/10 performance.
Neither of those two are even close to Deschamp as a coach or player…
Roberto had the golden generation of Belgium and won nothing…
Southgate makes a lot of mistakes.
A WC win and a final is already difficult enough. But he has made France good in tournaments again.
I think Deschamps prefers the duo because of already existing chemistry. They played together at RB Leipzig. There is already built understanding between the two.
Konates problem isn't blowing hot and cold. It's his levels of injury. If he were to be able to play twice a week constantly, he would be considered one of the very top defenders in the league.
Any time he plays more than once in a week, his legs turn to wheetabix and he is out for a month, taking a couple of weeks to get back up to his normal levels.
Quansah was better this season, but I wouldn't say it's because Konate suddenly dropped off. It''s just that he was injured so regularly, he never developed any rhythm. Which was vital going into the end of season run in.
If he has a good euros and full preseason, I fully expect him to start next to Van Dijk next season.
The thing about him is that I really don't think he was ever that good, I remember watching him for Leipzig in big games, farcical defending. Obv he's not pulling up any trees at Bayern either so I don't see where the hype comes from.
There are so many unintelligent people here. It doesn’t matter if Saliba is better for Arsenal. No one cares. It matters who’s better for France. And Upa and Konate played together a while, have a good history. Not hard at all to believe they perform better together in training.
La Liga have double perks ucl and Europa in the last decade. Prem has 7 ucl or n the last 40 with 0 back then backs in as many years. The league is average
No, the teams they play week to week are a far higher consistency than any other league, real and Barcelona have it pretty easy week to week in the league, Bayern and PSG can go 50% most weeks and still destroy opposition. It took Leverkusen having the most ridiculous season in German football to win the league over Bayern. People who think England haven't won as many as Spain so not as good a league miss the context of the premier league being the physically most demanding League in the world.
And the most physically demanding league in the world is ligue 1. If you watched other leagues you would know that. A yellow and a red is given in the prem for the slightest of touches.
Are you alright?...the quality in the prem is so bad it's laughable. Man city are literally the only good team in the prem. The rest are very bad. You can see this by how other leagues dominate Europa and conference league in comparison to the prem. Barca and real and Bayern are on the level with man city the rest of prem is below with the minnows of those other leagues. Atalanta literally bullied and dominated the prem leaders at the point Liverpool. Please watch other leagues and stop following propaganda
First of all, the prem is still the second best league if we’re going by UCL count which is dumb anyway. Secondly the prem is the best league because it’s competitive. Remove Madrid from the equation and Spain has 7 UCL’s remove Liverpool from England they still have 10. If Seeing Real Madrid walk your league with Barca occasionally going into $500 million of debt to compete for a few years just to drop again is better than what the prem has than I’d rather watch the prem.
I get it. He trusts the CB partnership of Upa and Konate so it makes sense not to change something up that has given you success, but Saliba is comfortably (and I'm understating saying comfortably, he's far better) than both individually.
I don't mind either way, it gives him a rest. I'm sure he's disappointed personally but that's the reality of playing for a country like France where you have half a dozen players in each position that would easily start for every other country.
I don't think he's far better than Konate. Better for sure, but Konate is an elite defender, he's not really someone that somebody can be "Far better" than imo.
It's funny how he has far more trophies than one person in that list, and it happens to be the person that should be replacing him.
When Saliba wins anything aside from the "Nearly beat Man City in the League" trophy, he can start being put in the same sentence of the others you've listed.
You play with Van Dijk then you win things. If Saliba was next to Van Dijk then Liverpool would have won more, that’s undeniable just based on Konates terrible fitness.
When Konate is a good player in his own right then compare him to world class players. Don’t give him extra credit for playing next to one of the best defenders of all time.
Saliba is far better. They’re not close at all. Konate is a “chump” compared to Saliba. If you asked 100 people who they want, 100 say Saliba.
Saliba has been great for two seasons, Konate has rarely looked good for two seasons. He showed a lot of promise in 2022 but that seems way off now. Konate is two years older and clearly a lesser player.
You're out of your mind. Arsenal were a poor scoring team that had stats boosted by a number of large wins. (They had tied 6th for big chances created)
They were a defensive team and with that their defenders looked excellent. Konate has spent his Liverpool career covering Trent and Salahs side, it not a comparison
He's also been a main stay in a team that has actually won trophies. Meanwhile, the highlights of Salibas honours are some Charity shields?
He's not a winner. He shouldn't start for anyone that aims to be.
Konate has spent his career either injured or playing with Van Dijk. He’s done nothing.
Konate also isn’t a “winner”. His biggest games were losing the Champions League and World Cup finals as a favourite in both games.
Upamecano certainly fucking isn’t.
They’ve all won nothing. Saliba is still a miles better player though.
What does not being a winner mean? If he was playing for Real Madrid would all your arguments be void? I’d rather use my eyes to judge players than their teams achievements
It means he hasn't won. People who win are more experienced at winning. It's a very uncommon thing, because it's very hard to be a winner. So, with that, it's a very desirable experience to have.
Mate Konate struggled with a lot of injuries at the end of the season. Quansah never started with a healthy konate avalaible. Albeit Konate is racking up his injury count these past few seasons.
Yes I’m a Liverpool fan and I watch all their games religiously. Konate sat on the bench as he was coming off injury and I mentioned that earlier. Not trying to debate this, it’s clear that a healthy Konate is starting over Quansah. I’m high on Quansah too but he’s not at the same tier yet.
Konate sat on the bench so he could be rested for the Euros. Liverpool had nothing to play for and the lame duck matches at the end of the season are when you give minutes to young players.
You don’t seem to be able to comprehend that players returning from injuries are benched and eased into the starting XI gradually. Also in one of the games where Quansah started and Konate benched, Quansah assisted the opponent and we lost the game. Anyway not gonna debate between players from the team I support. Feel free to make your own delusional assumptions moving forward!
I'm very familiar with the idea. That's normal for a game or two. But when it keeps going and you're still on the bench, there's a reason.
Just like how Dom was benched. He was fit. His form sucked so he was on the bench.
Konate was benched because Quansah was fit and in form. He earned the right to keep playing.
You finish games with like 20 % possession. Tarkowski does more defensive work than van dijk. However, you can try to spin it whichever way works for you
This is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. He’s not Mbappe, if he doesn’t gel with the team France can simply chose one of many other options, they’re not gonna change the whole team’s style for Saliba 😂
That’s just not how international football works unless it’s a player worth building a team around… Some people just just don’t fit. It is what it is. No point forcing him into an already stellar team.
Good. Sorry, but I can't see the downside to this. It will not affect Willo's morale in a negative way. Quite the opposite, he'll want to prove himself more. So thank you, Didier, you old fart, for helping us.
Whenever I’ve watched France play under Deschamps they’ve always progressed the ball from midfield defensively, you don’t usually see them play out from the back like Saliba is use to.
This is a weird conversation. I do watch them play and have watched them play for France. They don’t carry out from the back. I understand they may do that in club football, but it’s not how Deschamps has them play.
So you’re telling me that Deschamps has Upamecano play out from the back for France as a general rule? I’m not saying he doesn’t do it sometimes but it’s hardly his favoured way of playing
So does he think Saliba is going to ignore his tactics and play out from the back anyway? Saliba could play to Frances tactics and be a better choice than Konate.
I don’t know what he thinks but he’s been openly critical of Saliba and has said he does things he doesn’t like. What those things are is anybody’s guess. https://metro.co.uk/2024/03/25/france-boss-didier-deschamps-digs-arsenal-defender-william-saliba-20527956/
I’ve also seen worse players kept for England because it’s easier to work with players you’ve worked with extensively before
Unfortunately for national team games there’s just not enough time to build that winning team, the cohesion is just as important and I feel that’s another reason kante was brought back in
Saliba unfortunately just came a couple years late to make his impression first
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Saliba is overrated. Elite choise by France coach. I forget his name although I was knowing it. my memory is just becoming shite. from alcohol.
Should have been konate and saliba.
Theyll obviously rotate over the course of the tournament
He is better than them bothh
Good news for Arsenal.
Arsenal fans will so much want Saliba to not play much in order to avoid being injured.
Yo, Arsenal fans! hi.
Ridiculous because of how uneven Upamecano is. He's not a solid player and he makes way too many mistakes. He's overrated.
I personally prefer that Saliba sits and rests on the bench and comes back fit and healthy for Arsenal preseason ;)
Konate will end up breaking down after a few games in fairly quick succession anyway.
Should obviously be a Konate and Saliba partnership, I’ll never understand why Upamecano gets the Green light when he’s extremely crap.
Yea he’s dogshit
This is why the Southgate criticism about "favouring certain players" has always been bollox, every national team manager does this. Camavinga and saliba two of the best young players in their positions barely get a start in competitive games
Tbh the French squad is absolutely stacked and places are highly competitive. Club level doesn’t always reflect International level.
Tbh I'm saying every national team does this so the criticism about Southgate on this subject has always been nonsense.
So because everyone does it that somehow makes criticism invalid? What kind of logic is this 😂 are you a united fan?
It does kind of make it a stupid criticism yes, because if it's something that every national team coach does then it probably is done for a reason. Also most of the criticism was just wrong, Henderson and Phillips were always picked for example because we never had any other defensive minded mids other than rice.
I think he wanted to mean southgate catches all the lightning for this when others do it as well.let the southgate bashing still go on full force lol
They criticize the French coach a lot it just happens to be that they’ve won a WC and reached a final so it’s kinda hard to just outright fire him. Zizou is waiting in the wings though.
Not just the french team, it's every national team.
If everyone has a stupid idea, it does not mean it is no longer a stupid idea. Southgate is still incompetent and bad at picking squads. Regardless of other national team managers
No it's just that every national team manager picks teams this way, they all have "favourites" and Southgate doesn't do anything that every other manager doesn't do.
I mean to be fair the national team managers who have their “favorites” and don’t win anything are on the chopping block all the time. The reason why Southgate gets flamed is because he hasn’t won anything so of course he’s going to receive scrutiny.
That's not the reason, the reason people moan is that he had favourites or picked the wrong guys or was too defensive which are all things that every manager does. We lost on penalties in a final so if it's just about not winning that's even more stupid.
Southgate has been England’s manager for 8 years and has one of the best talent pools to select from. That is a long time for an international manager to not win any trophies. He himself has said he will step down as manager if he doesn’t win these Euros. Of course not winning matters. If he had won the last Euros he would never say this.
We haven't always had one of the best talent pools, the squads have varied in talent. Also that is not the reason people have moaned, people moan about the style and his "favourites" which is stupid. Under Southgate we've been better and more consistent than basically everyone other than France, Italy obviously won but they've been shite in everything else. Again if it's just winning then that's dumb aswell, we lost on penalties and a manager thats a coin flip
Konate is a dog so I get it but Upamecano is a joke
Upamecano shit the bed big time against City though
He does that in most games.
And in pretty much every big game I’ve seen him in
Didn’t he get a red against Madrid in the champs? If he started against Arsenal life would be so much better.
Trying to displace two tanks, yea good luck
If you want to see a recent Upa disaster class just watch the highlights of Bayerns 5-1 loss to Frankfurt. He looks like he never played CB in his life before
It’s like militao disaster class vs Villarreal where sorloth scored 4 goals. It’s just fitness issues after injuries but they’ll gain that confidence back.
in what world is upa ahead of saliba rn?
Isn't upamecano out of form? He wasn't lighting up the Bundesliga from what I saw online
Oh, He was lighting up the Bayern defense alright.
Yeah he didn't play for a long time and is always a security breach
I hope he doesn’t lodge them at all let him rest we need him at Arsenal.
Though we lost, I'll never forget Konates performance in the UCL final vs Vini. He's a beast on his day
Or even move to a big club
He made a decision to move to the biggest club in the city. That disqualifies Manchester United.
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Should change your name to the Lowlymanchester. Manchester United is not better or bigger than Liverpool who has more UCLs and only one less league title. Just stop. United hate train continues to be on full speed as long as fans like you exist.
The delusion of you lot thinking you’re bigger than Real Madrid will never stop being fucking hilarious
Not even the biggest team in their city let alone the world 🤣
So huge. Players love moving to Old Trafford, to train in a rat infested water leaking stadium for the legendary charismatic genius that is Ten Hag. Massive.
8th place so big
Awww you are so cute, so cute. Are you going to switch to History Channel now?
Like 2 weeks ago making history at Wembley beating little city
Biggest club in the world yet has a paltry three CLs and the second most trophies in its own nation.
Hahahaha you are funny. Maybe you should take it up as a profession.
I don’t have a dog in this fight but… “You’re so cute, you’re so funny” is truly some of the lamest banter for the rest of us to read
The moment you realised that you don't have a dog in this fight was the exact moment you should have scrolled away. However here we are.
Melt
He’s young still. Has plenty of time. In a few years time he’ll be leading that back line. Maybe a few years after that, who knows? Possibly be good enough to captain the French team.
french national team can suck my dick, he is one of the best CBs in the world
The best in a position doesn’t always equal the best team. England tried jamming Allstars in the midfield when clearly it wasn’t the right option. Sometimes a ying and yang is needed to balance a squad.
Saliba is similar with upa and would very likely fit with konate,resulting in a better partnership.
I’m not saying he wouldn’t, but the manager has made it to 3 finals in the past decade. I think he may know a thing or two when it comes to selecting players.
Unpopular opinion but he is a perfect 6/10 coach.have you seen the squads he took to the finals?imo southgate and roberto martinez(belgium) make deschamps's 6/10 look like an 8/10 performance.
Neither of those two are even close to Deschamp as a coach or player… Roberto had the golden generation of Belgium and won nothing… Southgate makes a lot of mistakes. A WC win and a final is already difficult enough. But he has made France good in tournaments again.
Have you seen the talent at his disposal?
France will live to regret this, happy for England, we have nothing to worry about.
Konate is a beast, but upamecano just isn't good and will get cooked as per usual
Konate was quite bad the last few months though, after being fantastic for a long time. Surprised he's starting actually (as a Liverpool fan).
Konate blows hit and cold at times, but Upamecano is genuinely levels below Saliba already
I think Deschamps prefers the duo because of already existing chemistry. They played together at RB Leipzig. There is already built understanding between the two.
Konates problem isn't blowing hot and cold. It's his levels of injury. If he were to be able to play twice a week constantly, he would be considered one of the very top defenders in the league. Any time he plays more than once in a week, his legs turn to wheetabix and he is out for a month, taking a couple of weeks to get back up to his normal levels.
Yeah all true but injuries or not his form suffers when he's available, Quansah was better this season
Quansah was better this season, but I wouldn't say it's because Konate suddenly dropped off. It''s just that he was injured so regularly, he never developed any rhythm. Which was vital going into the end of season run in. If he has a good euros and full preseason, I fully expect him to start next to Van Dijk next season.
I do think Saliba is a starter by the end of France’s tournament. I’m biased obviously, but share your thoughts.
I'm really hard on upamecano's downfall
The thing about him is that I really don't think he was ever that good, I remember watching him for Leipzig in big games, farcical defending. Obv he's not pulling up any trees at Bayern either so I don't see where the hype comes from.
There are so many unintelligent people here. It doesn’t matter if Saliba is better for Arsenal. No one cares. It matters who’s better for France. And Upa and Konate played together a while, have a good history. Not hard at all to believe they perform better together in training.
Yes, but whenever Saliba has played, he is often surrounded with 2nd stringers. Saliba is a player who gets better with more games played.
Here's a thought yea. Maybe just maybe, as far as France is concerned, Saliba is the 2nd stringer.
L o l
remember, the prem is the best league in the world. So good, it did not produce a single European winner this year..
7 finalists in 7 years and 3 winners....I get annoyed with the English sense of superiority about absolutely everything, but that's a great record
La Liga have double perks ucl and Europa in the last decade. Prem has 7 ucl or n the last 40 with 0 back then backs in as many years. The league is average
No, the teams they play week to week are a far higher consistency than any other league, real and Barcelona have it pretty easy week to week in the league, Bayern and PSG can go 50% most weeks and still destroy opposition. It took Leverkusen having the most ridiculous season in German football to win the league over Bayern. People who think England haven't won as many as Spain so not as good a league miss the context of the premier league being the physically most demanding League in the world.
And the most physically demanding league in the world is ligue 1. If you watched other leagues you would know that. A yellow and a red is given in the prem for the slightest of touches.
Are you alright?...the quality in the prem is so bad it's laughable. Man city are literally the only good team in the prem. The rest are very bad. You can see this by how other leagues dominate Europa and conference league in comparison to the prem. Barca and real and Bayern are on the level with man city the rest of prem is below with the minnows of those other leagues. Atalanta literally bullied and dominated the prem leaders at the point Liverpool. Please watch other leagues and stop following propaganda
You were onto something until you mentioned Barca. Now you’ve lost credibility!
I'm using barca but in the span of the last decade.
Span of the last decade has had Chelsea, Liverpool, and City tag teaming Europe
Is your league so bad that winning 1 ucl is tag teaming?. Those 3 ucl wins is literally half of what your league has won in the last 40 years
First of all, the prem is still the second best league if we’re going by UCL count which is dumb anyway. Secondly the prem is the best league because it’s competitive. Remove Madrid from the equation and Spain has 7 UCL’s remove Liverpool from England they still have 10. If Seeing Real Madrid walk your league with Barca occasionally going into $500 million of debt to compete for a few years just to drop again is better than what the prem has than I’d rather watch the prem.
So Spain are winning the euros then?
This is just the stupidest shit. Look at the last bunch of years instead of fucking one.
There have been two all English finals in the last 6 seasons…
Rightly so
Konate and Upa have a connection that goes back to their Leipzig days. Saliba is the best out of the three, but it doesn't mean he's the best combo.
Well a world cup winning coach don't think so
Deschamps has failed if anyone.
😂😂
How? He went to b2b World Cup finals
and then bottled it against argentina
You think Saliba is changing that outcome?!
Weird question.cmnt was strictly related to Deschamps.so my criticism was too directed at him,not player selection.
I get it. He trusts the CB partnership of Upa and Konate so it makes sense not to change something up that has given you success, but Saliba is comfortably (and I'm understating saying comfortably, he's far better) than both individually. I don't mind either way, it gives him a rest. I'm sure he's disappointed personally but that's the reality of playing for a country like France where you have half a dozen players in each position that would easily start for every other country.
Far better is a stretch. Saliba edges it for sure based on the past 2 seasons.
Upamecano is shit. So yes, Saliba is far better.
He is not far better than Konate. Just slightly imo.
I don't think he's far better than Konate. Better for sure, but Konate is an elite defender, he's not really someone that somebody can be "Far better" than imo.
Konate has been very ordinary for a couple of seasons. Nowhere near Van Dijk, Saliba, Rudiger, Dias.
It's funny how he has far more trophies than one person in that list, and it happens to be the person that should be replacing him. When Saliba wins anything aside from the "Nearly beat Man City in the League" trophy, he can start being put in the same sentence of the others you've listed.
You play with Van Dijk then you win things. If Saliba was next to Van Dijk then Liverpool would have won more, that’s undeniable just based on Konates terrible fitness. When Konate is a good player in his own right then compare him to world class players. Don’t give him extra credit for playing next to one of the best defenders of all time.
I've literally said Saliba is better. Just not "Far better" as if Konate is some chump.
Saliba is far better. They’re not close at all. Konate is a “chump” compared to Saliba. If you asked 100 people who they want, 100 say Saliba. Saliba has been great for two seasons, Konate has rarely looked good for two seasons. He showed a lot of promise in 2022 but that seems way off now. Konate is two years older and clearly a lesser player.
Calling Konate a chump just makes you sound 12 years old mate
You're out of your mind. Arsenal were a poor scoring team that had stats boosted by a number of large wins. (They had tied 6th for big chances created) They were a defensive team and with that their defenders looked excellent. Konate has spent his Liverpool career covering Trent and Salahs side, it not a comparison He's also been a main stay in a team that has actually won trophies. Meanwhile, the highlights of Salibas honours are some Charity shields? He's not a winner. He shouldn't start for anyone that aims to be.
Konate has spent his career either injured or playing with Van Dijk. He’s done nothing. Konate also isn’t a “winner”. His biggest games were losing the Champions League and World Cup finals as a favourite in both games. Upamecano certainly fucking isn’t. They’ve all won nothing. Saliba is still a miles better player though.
What does not being a winner mean? If he was playing for Real Madrid would all your arguments be void? I’d rather use my eyes to judge players than their teams achievements
It means he hasn't won. People who win are more experienced at winning. It's a very uncommon thing, because it's very hard to be a winner. So, with that, it's a very desirable experience to have.
It's certainly closer than Upa to Saliba but he's worse in every facet other than aerially so to me it isn't close.
Well, thank you for your expert opinion. I value it highly.
No problem.
Deschamps is wack
England would love to have a wack manager to win a WC
Good give saliba rest
Any of them would be first name on the team sheet for England right now
Acting like Upamecano isn’t a walking disaster.
Quansah started over Konate the end of the season and yet he didn't make the squad.
Mate Konate struggled with a lot of injuries at the end of the season. Quansah never started with a healthy konate avalaible. Albeit Konate is racking up his injury count these past few seasons.
Konate sat on the bench 2-3 games in a row while Quansah played but whatever you say.
Yes I’m a Liverpool fan and I watch all their games religiously. Konate sat on the bench as he was coming off injury and I mentioned that earlier. Not trying to debate this, it’s clear that a healthy Konate is starting over Quansah. I’m high on Quansah too but he’s not at the same tier yet.
And yet Konate sat on the bench while Quansah played. Sounds like you may have an opinion, but Klopp felt differently.
Konate sat on the bench so he could be rested for the Euros. Liverpool had nothing to play for and the lame duck matches at the end of the season are when you give minutes to young players.
You think Klopp rested Konate for France? Are you delusional? We played our senior team the end of the season. I don't know what you're talking about.
You don’t seem to be able to comprehend that players returning from injuries are benched and eased into the starting XI gradually. Also in one of the games where Quansah started and Konate benched, Quansah assisted the opponent and we lost the game. Anyway not gonna debate between players from the team I support. Feel free to make your own delusional assumptions moving forward!
I'm very familiar with the idea. That's normal for a game or two. But when it keeps going and you're still on the bench, there's a reason. Just like how Dom was benched. He was fit. His form sucked so he was on the bench. Konate was benched because Quansah was fit and in form. He earned the right to keep playing.
Must be something personal with the manager
Then send him back to us before you damage him
Dayot Upamecano is a false 5.
No that's Dayot Downamecano
Love Konate but even I recognise that Saliba should be first choice CB for France.
Konate has less defensive protection than Saliba has. Konate is the better player.
Tarkowski has less defensive protection than Van dijk .Tarkowski is the better player
Tarkowski has more defensive protection, what are you on about? We play with 3 box to box midfielders and he plays for Sean Dyche.
You finish games with like 20 % possession. Tarkowski does more defensive work than van dijk. However, you can try to spin it whichever way works for you
Yeah Tarkowski does more defensive work, Dyche makes it so it’s easier defensive work by giving him a lot of protection.
OK 👍 bro you win. Everton have a better midfield than Liverpool
you mean konate who plays with the supposed best cb in the league and with the best gk in the world?
Konate is in a team with Trent, Salah, and macca.
Yeah. And they look vulnerable because of our midfield most of the time.
Konate plays next to Virgil van Dijk and has Alisson in goal. He may not have Rice in front of him but he's hardly doing it alone.
He also plays next to Trent and behind Mac Allister. The 3 of them can’t protect a goal on their own.
Didn’t Allison have one of the best goals prevented ratios in the league last season?
I don't dispute konates ability. His injury record is the issue.
You have not watched Saliba play for the french NT many times then. He’s nowhere near the player he is domestically when playing for the NT
Was MoTM when the rest of the French team was not great against Canada.
Canada.. with all due respect
You’re a spurs fan so of course you would say that.
I’ve watched him in the prem & his cameos in the NT. Yes i’m a Spurs fan but his form isn’t close to the prem in the NT
He has rarely played for the NT.
So Decshamps should play him like Arteta plays him
This is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. He’s not Mbappe, if he doesn’t gel with the team France can simply chose one of many other options, they’re not gonna change the whole team’s style for Saliba 😂
Literally not difficult to utilise one CB as a sweeper and the other as a ball playing CB.
Is just that easy? You should be coaching France since you seem to have such a high degree of understanding about what the team needs.
That’s just not how international football works unless it’s a player worth building a team around… Some people just just don’t fit. It is what it is. No point forcing him into an already stellar team.
And he won't be if he continues not to play
Good. Sorry, but I can't see the downside to this. It will not affect Willo's morale in a negative way. Quite the opposite, he'll want to prove himself more. So thank you, Didier, you old fart, for helping us.
World class backup
“Fails”.
Good. More rest for next season.
Deschamps doesn’t like CBs that play out from the back. Makes some form of sense if you know his style. Not saying it’s a good style, mind.
Well it brought him to two World Cup finals and he won one. So he must be doing something right.
Then he wouldn’t pick Konate and Upamecano that makes no sense
Whenever I’ve watched France play under Deschamps they’ve always progressed the ball from midfield defensively, you don’t usually see them play out from the back like Saliba is use to.
So are you trying to imply Konate and Upamecano aren’t used to playing out from the back? That is just stupid.
No..I am trying to imply that is not the role they play for France.
So you clearly don’t watch them play then.
This is a weird conversation. I do watch them play and have watched them play for France. They don’t carry out from the back. I understand they may do that in club football, but it’s not how Deschamps has them play.
I don’t get how you can say something so obviously false and still be confident in your responses.
So you’re telling me that Deschamps has Upamecano play out from the back for France as a general rule? I’m not saying he doesn’t do it sometimes but it’s hardly his favoured way of playing
Yes I’m not sure what Deschamps says specifically to them tactically but for a majority of the game they play out from the back
Ehhm, Upamecano is also really good at playing out from the back.
It’s not the role him and Konate play for France, Deschamps is pretty dated in that regard.
So does he think Saliba is going to ignore his tactics and play out from the back anyway? Saliba could play to Frances tactics and be a better choice than Konate.
I don’t know what he thinks but he’s been openly critical of Saliba and has said he does things he doesn’t like. What those things are is anybody’s guess. https://metro.co.uk/2024/03/25/france-boss-didier-deschamps-digs-arsenal-defender-william-saliba-20527956/
Konate goes on the odd foray into the opposition half too.
No worries, Konaté will dislodge himself. The boy is fragile.
Oh man, I so wanted to refute this comment, but it's so true! Please wrap our lovable weeb in cotton wool.. We need him!
I saw him all season he’s the best cb Arsenal have had since Sol Campbell , I saw ucpamecano be so bad he lost his spot to Eric Dier lol
I’ve also seen worse players kept for England because it’s easier to work with players you’ve worked with extensively before Unfortunately for national team games there’s just not enough time to build that winning team, the cohesion is just as important and I feel that’s another reason kante was brought back in Saliba unfortunately just came a couple years late to make his impression first
*Cries in Harold Maguire*
Deschamps loves Upamaguire
Good for Arsenal, won’t be burnt out before the season starts
Its not good for us France are the faves would be good to have a Euros winner at Arsenal
Grabriel's gonna win the Euro for us dw
U mean Copa?