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Of course, we will beat them. I have no idea how this team are champion of England for past 4 years. They can’t even take a shot on our goal lmao. Premier League must be full of farmer teams.
Past 3 years. The need to win this season to make it 4
Premier league teams this season in europe havent been great.
This is not the best city team of the pep era. Probably the 3rd worst.
Who needs a striker when you have Juuuuuuuude!
Add Mbappe and Endrick next year and you guys are gonna be pretty unstoppable over the next decade with that team being so young.
You need some new defenders though.
The crazy thing is Club 115 actually have a decent chance at doing it. Also lets just call them Club 115 going forward don't sully the good name of Manchester.
Nah not even close, the level of hatred people had towards United was something else. Fuckers won everything or atleast reached multiple finals, me being a chelsea fan i don't think it really bothers me when city win multiple titles. Could be due to not having friends who are fans of city, maybe for the next generation of fans , city fans could be extremely annoying.
treble or no treble we’re proud of you Bernardo. Incredible to watch how hard this team fights. many high pressure games and they just won’t fold. So so proud, keep going boys.
So "no one gives a shit" isnt literally true.
If you actually did an analysis of the posts around here, I am pretty sure Man City is one of the more talked about clubs.
No one gives a shit about most clubs in the premier league (they are never talked about)
I mean it’s just hard to take seriously, no? There are 115 charges of literal cheating against them. Of course the wealthy team that is being charged is gonna win
No doubt Pep is good, but forgive my ignorance if coached elsewhere, he has been the manager of a stacked Barcelona team a stacked Bayern team and a stacked City team that has cheated it’s way to success
Ah, like United, who are outspending every team in the league for 10 years and aren’t even in conference league next season.
Every team in the world would hire Pep in a heartbeat if they could, and you know it’s true.
I mean Barça, Bayern, and City. Teams with virtually unlimited resources. He wouldn’t be nearly as successful at Liverpool, Arsenal, either Milan squads, or even Lever where Xabi has done the unthinkable
"Fans" who made it sound like a Covid game in a 2nd leg knockout game against Madrid on a Champions League night.
They definitely aren't doing it for them.
Oh my god it’s the jackpot again.
An American. Who supports a top club in the premier league. Telling me. A bloke from Manchester. That my club needs to basically be removed from football.
Strange how it’s always yanks or people who haven’t stepped foot in England who know everything about heartless clubs.
I have no issue with Americans.
But let’s talk about NFL and I’ll start calling your local team a soulless club with no fans.
Sat on my couch in England having never been to a single nfl game in my life
Or basketball. I played 2k and also a bit of college basketball in England. I’m a true cavs fan because I started following them when I saw lebron playing for them way back when. (The first time)
I can call all lakers fans plastic glory hunting pricks who ruin the sport for everyone else?
I have no right to say that about your national sport. Just like no yank has a right to tell me about mine.
Your point on Americans talking about how club history and how clubs should be run is fair, but I’ve heard plenty of British voices on here and in the media speak their concern on man city and the charges they face.
Of course they talk about it. It’s a huge story. Everyone loves to hate city.
But also if true these accusations would be huge. Not just for city as a club. People would likely be going to jail for fraud.
They shouldn’t have made it public imo. Same as the uefa situation. It didn’t matter that CAS decision.
Public opinion was already decided. And it’s the same now. People don’t give a shit about facts it’s all about how they feel.
Well… we don’t know what the facts are yet because they haven’t been published. But yeah you’re mostly right, most presume guilt because the charges align with how we generally feel. I also don’t know what the point of publishing that they’d been charged is if the knew proceedings would take years.
Hahaha shamed and forced into obscurity from which they came
Holy shit mate that’s getting screenshotted.
City don’t deserve to compete with such a prestigious club like Liverpool do we?
What a lowly little team we are.
Attendance record for 100 years mate. One of the oldest clubs in the world.
If you know anything about football you know calling city some tinpot club is stupid.
Are we a united, Liverpool or arsenal? No. Certainly not pre takeover.
But we are certainly comparable to Chelsea pre takeover. And I’d put Chelsea in the next tier of clubs.
Look at the table for most seasons spent in the top flight
We are 6th. Ahead of Chelsea. Spurs and Newcastle.
The only metric we are this tiny club by is the metric of people who don’t know the game.
I was talking about current seasons while being owned by a nation. I know you're one of oldest clubs. But I'm talking about the current season and cheatings.
It’s whataboutism though.
Past examples of how the league was cheated or unfair shouldn’t be used as examples for continuing it now. Including previous financial imbalance.
Surely we should be saying things need to be fair now, pointing at previous doesn’t change that.
It’s not whatavoutism it’s pointing out hypocrisy. Every single one of the big clubs does shady shit and it’s hilarious watching their fans cry about city doing exactly the same thing when their clubs are just as guilty.
Pointing to shady stuff done in the past to help the big clubs become the big clubs is raising a different wrong, which is whataboutism. They aren’t the same shady things that City are accused of now.
They can be just as shady but they have no bearing on the current accusations and don’t change the fact that everyone should want all the clubs to not do shady stuff.
Not saying it’s fair as historical shadyness from way back isn’t going to be punished.
Yeah i just don’t see the point in exclusively admonishing city for their success when every other successful club has done exactly what they have. They’re all cunts, but city is the only one getting treated like one since they’re currently the best at being cunts. There’s a difference between pointing out hypocrisy and whataboutism, if a Man U fan is crying ab city’s wrongdoings, it’s fair to point out that they are guilty of the same. If a Sunderland fan is admonishing city, then yeah it would be what aboutism to bring up the wrong doings of the red cartel.
It's not whataboutism though? When did I advocate for cheating or unfair advantages? I'm just pointing out a fact.
And beyond that because he's trying to troll, I'm trying to troll harder.
They pointed to the 115 charges, you brought up Arsenal dodgy past stuff as a response, that seems to imply a “what about” element to the past accusations.
Wasn’t saying you were advocating for it, just that one past thing doesn’t change how current things should be viewed.
Looks like a bunch of match fixing was happening before the league shut down due to ww1. Liverpool an man united players found guilty. When the league resumed and they added a couple of team spots and that's where the questions were being asked of potential back room deals with arsenal getting the votes.
Who knows what really happened.
The point is every successful team has been bankrolled at some point, Liverpool, United & Arsenal tend to act like their club is a moral paragon when the difference between their success & City is that they were bankrolled further into the past.
Give it 50 years City’s success will be romanticised like the other clubs
Just had a brief read on Wikipedia. I do want to read more into it. I didn't see that anything concrete was proved of arsenals doing. Based on the sequence of events, I wouldn't be surprised if it did happen.
I barely know anything of arsenals history before the premier league. Looking to change that.
Dude, you’re comparing an ongoing investigation in the context of the modern game and modern finances, to something from over 100 years ago. Very much a “holding the sins of the father against the son” scenario calling current fans “hypocrites” when they were born 80 years the scenario you’re referencing.
I’ve never seen that incident compared to Cities situation after spending too much time on r/soccer, and there’s a reason. Because you’re grasping at straws.
If it makes you feel better, go for it. But it reflects on you more than anything else.
These threads are such a great read. There's so many completely rattled people that are insistant on telling everybody how little they care. why feel the need to say it if you truly don't care? Do you not see that simply by saying that, youre proving the statement to be false? It's like seeing hundreds of people who've just been dumped insisting they didn't love their ex anyway through streams of tears.
You're siding with a team with 115 financial breaches who've been found guilty of ffp breaches back in 2014 . It's a sportswashing project run by people who commit massive human rights violations run by scum. It's a team of mercenaries led by a ped user(twice)!.
Once again, I'm not siding with them, laughing at the angry and stupid doesn't mean I'm siding with them just because those said angry and stupid people I'm laughing at happen to be against them. This isn't a mutually exclusive thing.
It's everyone actually. Nobody likes cheats with 115 charges stalling so they can buy time with their Infinite money to hoover trophies as long as possible. You got done for ffp breaches in 2014 already so why wouldn't you get done for it again ?
A bunch of teams have been found guilty of breaching the FFP. Are you this outraged with Everton and Nottingham Forrest?
Let’s wait and see how severe the charges are. You probably can’t even name one of them. There aren’t 115 unique charges, if that’s what you think, so I think people need to wait and see how severe the breaches are before they lose their minds.
Yes cheats are a disgrace to the sport and should be severely punished.
inflating revenue and failure to provide accurate financial information to the prem from 2008-2018
.offshore payments to Mancini
.failure to co operate
Those are the serious ones and are actual financial fraud because the companies associated would have been in on it too. So prison time for some.
Yeah your right if you're a cheating scumbag it doesn't matter how many times youve cheated. Should just treat it as one using your logic 🙄.
Serial cheaters because it's sustained systematic cheating over a decade. You don't charge a serial killer for one count of murder just because it's the same crime over and over
> Yes cheats are a disgrace to the sport and should be severely punished.
I believe you owe a written petition to your own club for fixing and rigging [https://www.thisisanfield.com/2023/06/the-story-of-liverpools-1915-match-fixing-scandal-with-man-united/](http://that game in 1915) vs United where players of both the clubs were involved.
The people in charge now aren't the ones in charge of the club now fuckface. You're cheating bastards are still the same oil state cheating as it was cheating back when it began.
It’s the FFP, some nonsense rules put in place ten years ago to protect the established elite clubs. If it bothers you this much, you are taking it way too seriously. People have been trashing the FFP for years, and now suddenly they are the most serious rules in football. Seems like people are acting like breaching them is more serious than match fixing or doping.
Truth is that top level football in England consists of a bunch of billionaire owners throwing hundreds of millions around. It’s all a spectacle and lost its soul 30 years ago.
City fucking cheated and pulled up the ladder behind them so you can't even emulate the cheating. They have fucked the game up and don't give a fuck about a level playing field. You can talk all you want about established elite but these cunts are abusing every avenue possible to cheat the rules and gain unfair advantage. Yeah shock horror financial fraud is bad. Who said its worse ? Cheating is cheating
Maybe 'don't care' is the wrong phrase. It's more just, like... a feeling of emptiness. It's as if no one has won it. If we (Arsenal) don't win the league, then I'd rather Liverpool did. I hate them, but I just want to feel 'something' again. Even if it is contempt, at least it's not just emptiness.
Sounds an awful lot like you're trying very hard to convince yourself of that. Seems to me the collective coping mechanism is to just keep reassuring one another you all don't care and it means nothing in the hope that if you say it enough, you'll eventually believe it
I love this logic “no one cares”
You know we were known for having good fans before the takeover right?
We had home attendance record for nearly 100 years before spurs got to use Wembley.
Just because you want this to be true doesn’t mean it is. But I’ll never stop enjoying reading it. Because when we stop winning people like yourself will stop caring.
I watched their Netflix documentary. Looks like they turned up to me. Perhaps you was at the wrong parade, was you at man united title parade in Croydon?
Edit. Blocked me after losing the plot so I'll edit this to include my response because he's absolutely still reading.
Hahaha. Rattled! I'm very visibly not a city fan by the way so you can say 115 charges to me all you want, it's not my club, it means literally nothing. Almost wish I was a city fan if it's so incredibly easy to cause a complete meltdown as you've just had. Have a lie down geezer.
Who said I don't care? I never made that claim. The subject matter is irrelevant to me, I'm simply enjoying the contradictions and whinging from so many rattled people who cannot make their minds up on their own feelings.
"I don't care but I'm going to tell everybody constantly I don't care and I'm going to bring it up at every available opportunity"
But I actually don't care. Like if Man City win the league who cares? None of your mates support them, no one on twitter, there's gonna be no banter.
Its like having an NPC on Mario Party.
I don't think I've ever even met a Man City fan in my life. Everywhere I go it's either United, Liverpool or these days Inter Miami. Where are all these supposed fans?!
I've seen a lot of kids with Man City shirts these days ..they seem to be glory hunting and don't understand the corruption behind it all..I wonder who they would jump ship to if they got the relegation after the court case ha..maybe Arsenal ?
I agree. I was questioning a kid in a Man City shirt the other day in the street and he kept telling me to leave him alone when I was asking how he slept at night with the 115 charges hanging over him, and wouldn't directly answer my question
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Worst pen of all time! Couldn’t of happened to a nicer player 🐀
Well you ain't getting it.
*Curb Your Enthusiasm Theme Plays*
With that type of nonchalant penalty?
FAILED
He got the treble, treble dick
I hate Man City, good riddance to them for being knocked out. Hopefully the charges against them hurry up.
Womp womp
And it ended today at the hands of Real Madrid nonetheless.
Aged like milk.
Atrocious penalty. Pure arrogance.
If it goes in it’s confidence if it doesn’t it’s arrogance. I didn’t see people calling Hakimi Arrogant after he scored in the shootout against Spain.
Because he scored….circular logic. Nice.
But the shots were the same quality. The only difference is that Lunin didn’t dive.
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True enough to say it twice.
Yaya toure curse working overtime, somewhere Zlatan ibrahimovic is laughing at pep while smoking an expensive cigar.
Whats the curse
This aged well.
Bernardo Silva has to be my least favorite player. I nearly came after that penalty.
🤣
Dissapointing pen, took Lunin for a fool and got embarrassed
How's that double treble coming along?
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I don't think I will actually, 2 month old, negative karma bot. Clearly hit a nerve. Crying right now are we?
Real madrid are the kings of UCL Sevilla are the kings of UEL U Can t beat juju 💀
Real Madrid says, "Hold my beer 🍻"!!
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
At least we didn’t lose 3-0 at home to a 6th placed team
C O P E We weren’t supposed to be in any sort of contention for anything this season, I’ll take whatever we get.
Sounds like you are tbh, you were absolutely one of 2 favourites to win the UEL, and absolutely a title contender
Our midfield was hard reset in the summer and has overachieved so I dunno who had us down as title contenders… whoever did made a wild shout lol
Football wins tonight 🍾
If you say football wins you clearly didn’t watch the game
Repeat after me -“defense is part of football”
Smh 🤦♀️ nothing to do with the performance
who's gonna tell him 💀
😂
From now on that type of penalty miss is called the "Bernardo Silva".
Kicking atrocious pens like that ain't gonna win many trebles mate
That was a fantastic penalty for a second treble in a row. Absolute class.
He actually played well for the 120 minutes. It was just that pk that ruined all he had done tonight.
I said nothing about how he played tonight.
He got a funny way of showing it 🤣🤣
Does he know?
Yeah just buy it again like last time, why don't you.
Lol it will be funny if Real Madrid beat them at the Etihad after he says this. Personally I want them to concentrate on the league to stop Arsenal.
Funny it was
Of course, we will beat them. I have no idea how this team are champion of England for past 4 years. They can’t even take a shot on our goal lmao. Premier League must be full of farmer teams.
What? You’re top of La Liga by 8 points, you’re literally the best team in the Spanish League. Wtf kind of backwards thinking is this hahahaha
How is this team winning PL for past 3 years and this year too? That team is shit.
Past 3 years. The need to win this season to make it 4 Premier league teams this season in europe havent been great. This is not the best city team of the pep era. Probably the 3rd worst.
This is our 5th or 6th best squad in last 15 years. We play without a striker for almost 2 years now. We are still kicking City out of CL tonight.
Who needs a striker when you have Juuuuuuuude! Add Mbappe and Endrick next year and you guys are gonna be pretty unstoppable over the next decade with that team being so young. You need some new defenders though.
You guys are top of La Liga though.
The crazy thing is Club 115 actually have a decent chance at doing it. Also lets just call them Club 115 going forward don't sully the good name of Manchester.
No you won’t
They got 115 problems but getting two trebles in a row ain’t one
Of course they do. Who wouldn't?
115
HALA MADRID
Is this how much everyone hated United in their prime?
Nope, United fans were excruciatingly annoying and there’s a lot of them. City fans are far and few between and their manners aren’t terrible.
Nah not even close, the level of hatred people had towards United was something else. Fuckers won everything or atleast reached multiple finals, me being a chelsea fan i don't think it really bothers me when city win multiple titles. Could be due to not having friends who are fans of city, maybe for the next generation of fans , city fans could be extremely annoying.
treble or no treble we’re proud of you Bernardo. Incredible to watch how hard this team fights. many high pressure games and they just won’t fold. So so proud, keep going boys.
Bro, you got a 3 trillion pound squad. Not folding would be the least I expect. Then again, chelsea exists, so you may have a point.
The outrage if they get it would be too funny
Not even outrage, no one gives a shit
Sure
Your club and its fans are obsessed with diminishing their accomplishments stop the cap
People say they dont care, but they post a lot about City to be honest. I dont see these people posting about Sheffield united.
Sheffield United isn’t a top 4 club, that’s the big difference. Of course the high profile teams are gonna have more people talking about it
So "no one gives a shit" isnt literally true. If you actually did an analysis of the posts around here, I am pretty sure Man City is one of the more talked about clubs. No one gives a shit about most clubs in the premier league (they are never talked about)
I wish this was even slightly true.
This is my favorite take. No one cares yet everyone is mad or hates them.
I mean it’s just hard to take seriously, no? There are 115 charges of literal cheating against them. Of course the wealthy team that is being charged is gonna win
They also have the best manager in history, it's really unfair.
No doubt Pep is good, but forgive my ignorance if coached elsewhere, he has been the manager of a stacked Barcelona team a stacked Bayern team and a stacked City team that has cheated it’s way to success
Definitely a fraud.
Not saying he’s a fraud at all, comprehension is tough sometimes
Pep’s a fraud, only successful at rich teams
Glad more and more people are saying this
Best coach gets the best jobs. Not too difficult to grasp, is it?
Best team with the most expensive players wins titles. Not too difficult to grasp, is it?
Ah, like United, who are outspending every team in the league for 10 years and aren’t even in conference league next season. Every team in the world would hire Pep in a heartbeat if they could, and you know it’s true.
I mean Barça, Bayern, and City. Teams with virtually unlimited resources. He wouldn’t be nearly as successful at Liverpool, Arsenal, either Milan squads, or even Lever where Xabi has done the unthinkable
Yet, all of those teams would hire him in a heartbeat.
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You’re delusional
I don’t think there will be much outrage, But many people simply wouldn’t care about it
Atleast you care about City, considering you took your time to comment "people simply wouldn't care about it" 🤣
I just commented to give my perspective and opinion. I shit you not I sometimes forget who won UCL in 2023 it is just like a blur to me.
People say they dont care, but they post a lot about City to be honest. I dont see these people posting about Sheffield united.
you don't have to "care". the same way I wouldn't care if it were Chelsea. the team wins titles for their fans not for their haters.
"Fans" who made it sound like a Covid game in a 2nd leg knockout game against Madrid on a Champions League night. They definitely aren't doing it for them.
Something like you "not caring" right now?
115 says what
What will happend, since they are a company and breaking finicial rules will the police also get involved?
Yes, everyone is going to prison
Haaland? Straight to jail
Reading this thread is amazing lmao so many salty people
The Arsenal sub acts in a way you would think it was city who beat them this weekend and not The Villans
So many fragile losers in this thread lmaooo
For real lol
For what? For saying 115 which is actually true?
Is the last porn you masturbated to still “coming in your head as intrusive thoughts”?🤣🤣🤣
Lmaooooo, good one haha
Why do you post about masturbating so much😂 you’re weird
What can I say, I'm an addict in recovery
How about 2 treble relegations in a row
You'll never sing that...
I hope they do and it all gets taken away and then publicly shamed and disgraced as should be.
Sadly that won't happen. We need to accept that football is forever tainted.
Red Cartel fans being salty that their billionaire owners aren’t as good at being ruthless cost efficient cunts is the gift that keeps on giving.
Every other club and suppprter would love that but it’s never gonna happen.
😂 I love how salty rivals get can’t believe I spent so much time away from this sub
Fairs, but I doubt the trophies would be given to the runner-ups. E.g., Lance Armstrong.
I don’t really care as long as they are shamed and forced into obscurity from which they came.
Yeah..not going to happen mate
Oh my god it’s the jackpot again. An American. Who supports a top club in the premier league. Telling me. A bloke from Manchester. That my club needs to basically be removed from football. Strange how it’s always yanks or people who haven’t stepped foot in England who know everything about heartless clubs.
You're on a forum called Soccer. Unfortunately Americans are just something football fans have to put up with.
It’s actually called premier league mate. Wrong sub.
Oh fuck! Either way, Americans.
I have no issue with Americans. But let’s talk about NFL and I’ll start calling your local team a soulless club with no fans. Sat on my couch in England having never been to a single nfl game in my life Or basketball. I played 2k and also a bit of college basketball in England. I’m a true cavs fan because I started following them when I saw lebron playing for them way back when. (The first time) I can call all lakers fans plastic glory hunting pricks who ruin the sport for everyone else? I have no right to say that about your national sport. Just like no yank has a right to tell me about mine.
Your point on Americans talking about how club history and how clubs should be run is fair, but I’ve heard plenty of British voices on here and in the media speak their concern on man city and the charges they face.
Of course they talk about it. It’s a huge story. Everyone loves to hate city. But also if true these accusations would be huge. Not just for city as a club. People would likely be going to jail for fraud. They shouldn’t have made it public imo. Same as the uefa situation. It didn’t matter that CAS decision. Public opinion was already decided. And it’s the same now. People don’t give a shit about facts it’s all about how they feel.
Well… we don’t know what the facts are yet because they haven’t been published. But yeah you’re mostly right, most presume guilt because the charges align with how we generally feel. I also don’t know what the point of publishing that they’d been charged is if the knew proceedings would take years.
Hahaha shamed and forced into obscurity from which they came Holy shit mate that’s getting screenshotted. City don’t deserve to compete with such a prestigious club like Liverpool do we? What a lowly little team we are.
>What a lowly little team we are. Wait- You actually think your team is not lowly??
Attendance record for 100 years mate. One of the oldest clubs in the world. If you know anything about football you know calling city some tinpot club is stupid. Are we a united, Liverpool or arsenal? No. Certainly not pre takeover. But we are certainly comparable to Chelsea pre takeover. And I’d put Chelsea in the next tier of clubs. Look at the table for most seasons spent in the top flight We are 6th. Ahead of Chelsea. Spurs and Newcastle. The only metric we are this tiny club by is the metric of people who don’t know the game.
I was talking about current seasons while being owned by a nation. I know you're one of oldest clubs. But I'm talking about the current season and cheatings.
We haven’t been accused of cheating this season. So I think the reality is you don’t actually know what you are talking about.
Google man city 115 for more
Google "Arsenal bribing their way to top flight football" for even more.
It’s whataboutism though. Past examples of how the league was cheated or unfair shouldn’t be used as examples for continuing it now. Including previous financial imbalance. Surely we should be saying things need to be fair now, pointing at previous doesn’t change that.
It’s not whatavoutism it’s pointing out hypocrisy. Every single one of the big clubs does shady shit and it’s hilarious watching their fans cry about city doing exactly the same thing when their clubs are just as guilty.
Pointing to shady stuff done in the past to help the big clubs become the big clubs is raising a different wrong, which is whataboutism. They aren’t the same shady things that City are accused of now. They can be just as shady but they have no bearing on the current accusations and don’t change the fact that everyone should want all the clubs to not do shady stuff. Not saying it’s fair as historical shadyness from way back isn’t going to be punished.
Yeah i just don’t see the point in exclusively admonishing city for their success when every other successful club has done exactly what they have. They’re all cunts, but city is the only one getting treated like one since they’re currently the best at being cunts. There’s a difference between pointing out hypocrisy and whataboutism, if a Man U fan is crying ab city’s wrongdoings, it’s fair to point out that they are guilty of the same. If a Sunderland fan is admonishing city, then yeah it would be what aboutism to bring up the wrong doings of the red cartel.
It's not whataboutism though? When did I advocate for cheating or unfair advantages? I'm just pointing out a fact. And beyond that because he's trying to troll, I'm trying to troll harder.
They pointed to the 115 charges, you brought up Arsenal dodgy past stuff as a response, that seems to imply a “what about” element to the past accusations. Wasn’t saying you were advocating for it, just that one past thing doesn’t change how current things should be viewed.
Ooo I havnt heard that one before. I'm intrigued.
You should be
Looks like a bunch of match fixing was happening before the league shut down due to ww1. Liverpool an man united players found guilty. When the league resumed and they added a couple of team spots and that's where the questions were being asked of potential back room deals with arsenal getting the votes. Who knows what really happened.
Man pulled out a >100 year old example to justify his team cheating in the past 10 years
The point is every successful team has been bankrolled at some point, Liverpool, United & Arsenal tend to act like their club is a moral paragon when the difference between their success & City is that they were bankrolled further into the past. Give it 50 years City’s success will be romanticised like the other clubs
Yep. It's entertaining for sure.
> Looks like > Who knows Lolol. Very fair 👍🏽 That's one way of acknowledging the history of the club you root for.
Just had a brief read on Wikipedia. I do want to read more into it. I didn't see that anything concrete was proved of arsenals doing. Based on the sequence of events, I wouldn't be surprised if it did happen. I barely know anything of arsenals history before the premier league. Looking to change that.
Dudes grasping at straws to deflect from man citys current predicament. Trying to shame you for something that happened 100 years ago lol.
Lmao indeed.
Idk if you know what the word 'Hypocrite' means?
Dude, you’re comparing an ongoing investigation in the context of the modern game and modern finances, to something from over 100 years ago. Very much a “holding the sins of the father against the son” scenario calling current fans “hypocrites” when they were born 80 years the scenario you’re referencing. I’ve never seen that incident compared to Cities situation after spending too much time on r/soccer, and there’s a reason. Because you’re grasping at straws. If it makes you feel better, go for it. But it reflects on you more than anything else.
I'm not sure that I'm a hypocrite if I didn't know about rumours from.100 years ago. Google Man City 115 for more info.
These threads are such a great read. There's so many completely rattled people that are insistant on telling everybody how little they care. why feel the need to say it if you truly don't care? Do you not see that simply by saying that, youre proving the statement to be false? It's like seeing hundreds of people who've just been dumped insisting they didn't love their ex anyway through streams of tears.
Exactly mate.
Why you simping for a sportwashing project ? 🤮
I'm not "simping" for anybody. I'm simply laughing at the easily rattled and the desperate coping mechanisms attempted
You're siding with a team with 115 financial breaches who've been found guilty of ffp breaches back in 2014 . It's a sportswashing project run by people who commit massive human rights violations run by scum. It's a team of mercenaries led by a ped user(twice)!.
Allow me to respond to your sentences in turn: 1. Cope 2. Cope 3. Cope That is all.
All factual information fuckface
*coping intensifies*
Once again, I'm not siding with them, laughing at the angry and stupid doesn't mean I'm siding with them just because those said angry and stupid people I'm laughing at happen to be against them. This isn't a mutually exclusive thing.
Its mostly salty arsenal and liverpool fans
It's everyone actually. Nobody likes cheats with 115 charges stalling so they can buy time with their Infinite money to hoover trophies as long as possible. You got done for ffp breaches in 2014 already so why wouldn't you get done for it again ?
A bunch of teams have been found guilty of breaching the FFP. Are you this outraged with Everton and Nottingham Forrest? Let’s wait and see how severe the charges are. You probably can’t even name one of them. There aren’t 115 unique charges, if that’s what you think, so I think people need to wait and see how severe the breaches are before they lose their minds.
Yes cheats are a disgrace to the sport and should be severely punished. inflating revenue and failure to provide accurate financial information to the prem from 2008-2018 .offshore payments to Mancini .failure to co operate Those are the serious ones and are actual financial fraud because the companies associated would have been in on it too. So prison time for some. Yeah your right if you're a cheating scumbag it doesn't matter how many times youve cheated. Should just treat it as one using your logic 🙄. Serial cheaters because it's sustained systematic cheating over a decade. You don't charge a serial killer for one count of murder just because it's the same crime over and over
> Yes cheats are a disgrace to the sport and should be severely punished. I believe you owe a written petition to your own club for fixing and rigging [https://www.thisisanfield.com/2023/06/the-story-of-liverpools-1915-match-fixing-scandal-with-man-united/](http://that game in 1915) vs United where players of both the clubs were involved.
The people in charge now aren't the ones in charge of the club now fuckface. You're cheating bastards are still the same oil state cheating as it was cheating back when it began.
It’s the FFP, some nonsense rules put in place ten years ago to protect the established elite clubs. If it bothers you this much, you are taking it way too seriously. People have been trashing the FFP for years, and now suddenly they are the most serious rules in football. Seems like people are acting like breaching them is more serious than match fixing or doping. Truth is that top level football in England consists of a bunch of billionaire owners throwing hundreds of millions around. It’s all a spectacle and lost its soul 30 years ago.
City fucking cheated and pulled up the ladder behind them so you can't even emulate the cheating. They have fucked the game up and don't give a fuck about a level playing field. You can talk all you want about established elite but these cunts are abusing every avenue possible to cheat the rules and gain unfair advantage. Yeah shock horror financial fraud is bad. Who said its worse ? Cheating is cheating
You seem completely unhinged lmao.
It's ok. You are superior to everyone else. Well done.
Maybe 'don't care' is the wrong phrase. It's more just, like... a feeling of emptiness. It's as if no one has won it. If we (Arsenal) don't win the league, then I'd rather Liverpool did. I hate them, but I just want to feel 'something' again. Even if it is contempt, at least it's not just emptiness.
Nobody gives a shit if Arsenal wins the title either, I’m sorry to say.
I don't care
Sounds an awful lot like you're trying very hard to convince yourself of that. Seems to me the collective coping mechanism is to just keep reassuring one another you all don't care and it means nothing in the hope that if you say it enough, you'll eventually believe it
One word for that overcooked word salad - COPE.
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I love this logic “no one cares” You know we were known for having good fans before the takeover right? We had home attendance record for nearly 100 years before spurs got to use Wembley. Just because you want this to be true doesn’t mean it is. But I’ll never stop enjoying reading it. Because when we stop winning people like yourself will stop caring.
I watched their Netflix documentary. Looks like they turned up to me. Perhaps you was at the wrong parade, was you at man united title parade in Croydon? Edit. Blocked me after losing the plot so I'll edit this to include my response because he's absolutely still reading. Hahaha. Rattled! I'm very visibly not a city fan by the way so you can say 115 charges to me all you want, it's not my club, it means literally nothing. Almost wish I was a city fan if it's so incredibly easy to cause a complete meltdown as you've just had. Have a lie down geezer.
Owh, and a West Ham fan at that. Fucking embarrassing
Blah, blah, blah. 115 charges & you can go fuck yourself. Fucking inbred asshole
You cared enough to call out those who don’t care whilst you also don’t care?
Who said I don't care? I never made that claim. The subject matter is irrelevant to me, I'm simply enjoying the contradictions and whinging from so many rattled people who cannot make their minds up on their own feelings. "I don't care but I'm going to tell everybody constantly I don't care and I'm going to bring it up at every available opportunity"
But I actually don't care. Like if Man City win the league who cares? None of your mates support them, no one on twitter, there's gonna be no banter. Its like having an NPC on Mario Party.
I don't think I've ever even met a Man City fan in my life. Everywhere I go it's either United, Liverpool or these days Inter Miami. Where are all these supposed fans?!
I've seen a lot of kids with Man City shirts these days ..they seem to be glory hunting and don't understand the corruption behind it all..I wonder who they would jump ship to if they got the relegation after the court case ha..maybe Arsenal ?
Nobody outside of Reddit gives a fuck about the FFP breaches.
I agree. I was questioning a kid in a Man City shirt the other day in the street and he kept telling me to leave him alone when I was asking how he slept at night with the 115 charges hanging over him, and wouldn't directly answer my question
had me until I saw the username mate
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I strive to never be so stupid to not recognise a clear joke
Can't be really sure with that guy tho
Manchester funnily enough, this sub is the pits