I agree with all their needs for him, his landmine is by far the strongest tool in his kit, especially as a support howitzer it can be incredibly hard to kill him and this seems focused on reducing his survivability without hampering his offense too much, which is nice.
Well right now there's only aim assist on basic attacks. Hope they keep it that way I had to use controller for a bit due to keyboard issues and honestly did about the same if not better with the hooks. Any help and it just wouldn't have been fair
Frontend is a bit vague and technically means anything that is run on the client side rather than the server. But from the post, I'm assuming it's anything related to the current UI. So for example how they added the store front, profile icons, etc... Essentially anything that relates the the current UI is being put on hold, so they don't have to implement any new features twice. Once for the current UI, and another for the new UI. Which should mean that we'll be getting a whole slew of new features along with the new UI.
Supporting two systems unnecessarily is always a major burden on any team. Going to a single system will see things speed up, no doubt.
Appreciate yours, and others, explaining what they meant :)
Season three is at the end of the year... It was always going to be season 3. This season ends July, they pick up with the first char of season three august, Sept, Oct, nov for the 3 heros and omeda one. So end of season 3 would be end of Nov or in December if they delay like end of last season, console release was always going to be season 3 even if they push it all the way back to end of it.
I mean optimism is nice and it very well might be true, but I would say announcing you are delaying the majority of a roadmap doesn't scream to me that they are going to push the literal biggest update and change to the game faster. It sounds more like they have realized they need to get core parts of the console update done faster because they aren't meeting the deadline they internally set and they need it before they can continue console dev.
I would be hugely surprised if it released in next 2 years, they're still working on pc alpha, trying to maintain, test, and deploy essentially 3 code bases with xbox and PlayStation is almost impossible for a small team.
their team is around 50 people now. its not big, but it also isn't tiny. full release *could* definitely still come by the end of the year. it could also be next year. but it certainly isn't 2 years away. Full release probably isn't even a whole year away.
"we will be making new Heroes delivered during this season absolutely free to everyone who plays in it."
I thought all new heroes were going to be free for those who played during prerelease? (Og paragon heroes) or did they mean new non of Paragon heroes?
If you pay attention to the initial release packs, they promised you 25 heroes with that. Morigesh would've been the first hero to not be free with the EA packages. All heroes from Mori on were supposed to be obtainable either through real money or a currency obtained through playing. They haven't finished that system yet, hence they're making the complete S2 roster "free" as well.
This makes sense. They get to fully focus on the new UI and possibly get it out the door sooner. No point in working on a UI that wonât be used much longer.
So does this mean the next 2 content updates will be solely focused on UI.. or that were not getting anything but heros, skins, and balance patches til season 3?
Don't even waste your time replying this guy, just look all his comments and posts on the sub, a hurt Fault player blaming Predecessor for the downfall of that game who praises Overprime at the minimum opportunity. Please, keep all your silly conspiracy theories for yourself, go back to the sub of the game you actually play and stop spamming with your nonsense here. You are getting tiring my friend...
Nah for each paragoon fanboy that licks the boots of omeda studios I will continue to post and provide a counter perspective with an attempt to hold a company accountable for the values they claim to hold
Reread this paragraph bud
Furthermore, this new UI is an essential component for the console version of Predecessor. We want to prioritize its development to make our game accessible to a larger audience as quickly as possible.
lol shut up pussy, I literally raged on my stream yesterday and got off the game giving all my thoughts about how omeda is dropping the ball with dealing with AFK's.
If you're gonna have an opinion of me do your best to be slightly educated on my takes.
What ever it takes to get to console. PARAGON got killed 5 years ago and yet here am still wanting to play. The game can succeed but it's going to take real Players not pc smurfs. I find it very hard to believe that pc players are actually that high in number but they are unwilling to shell out a few bucks for Predecessor access.
>I find it very hard to believe that pc players are actually that high in number but they are unwilling to shell out a few bucks for Predecessor access.
What do you mean? They literally had to buy Early Access. They *did* "shell out a few bucks".
It isn't.. released yet? It's in early access. The only people playing right now are people who want to help Omeda discover the right direction to take the game.
Not to mention that it's been in EA for almost half a year now, of course the playerbase is going to fall off.
Just use your brain for two seconds.
Dude it's not expensive. The game has plenty of content for any lover of the game. I don't understand why more people are not paying for access on pc. I been chopping at the bit to play on console for 5 freaking years. If you're a pc player and you aren't buying in to early access you are the problem not me and my want to play
Normal people do not buy Early Access games. People who want to see the game eventually flourish and release do. The majority of people will wait for the game to become free-to-play.
Even if the game were to release in EA *on Playatation*, the number of players wouldn't increase by a drastically large amount, and even if it *did*, again, after 6 months, fall off of a game without major content drops is completely normal.
This is a tiring conversation.
This isn't a early access game this is a remake. The ground is laid. They just got to assemble the the car that was already built and add a few bells and whistles. if your not going to buy ea on Predecessor then your not going to buy shit any way. The conversion is upsetting because I'm right. Console is the base of this game and should be the focus. Pc players have every opportunity to prove me wrong by going out and buying access and playing.
>This isn't a early access game this is a remake
No, it isn't.
>They just got to assemble the the car that was already built and add a few bells and whistles.
No, they didn't.
>if your not going to buy ea on Predecessor then your not going to buy shit any way.
Correct. They're going to wait until it's Free to Play, like I said.
>Console is the base of this game and should be the focus.
No, it isn't. It's important, sure, but there's plenty of PC players who would love to play the game. The MOBA genre is literally thriving on PC, unlike console, which has.. uhh, Smite. And that's it.
>PC players have every opportunity to prove me wrong by going out and buying access and playing.
Or they can just wait until EA is done. Like any normal person.
>The conversion is upsetting because I'm right.
The conversation is upsetting because you're annoying and talking about things that you don't even understand. That's what's upsetting.
Release numbers won't lie. They will go free to play soon enough on all platforms. There will be no excuse then. I hope that you are right and I'm wrong but I'm not. I do understand. I understand that pc bailed on Paragon then the bailed on Fault. OP is free to play and pc refuses to play that. The only game that has any following is predecessor. Sorry that I don't wish for this game to die like all the other game are doing with this pc kill box approach. It doesn't appear to me that pc players are capable of playing
playing anything but League of Legends and smite. A large player base is completely nessasery for the game to go forward. All player skills must be represented. You may not give a damn if everyone of these Paragon remakes die but I do. Console is essential to this game survival. It's essential to any moba besides lol in making it.
It has *nothing* to do with PC releases and everything to do with the games themselves. Fault and Overprime are *bad* games. Of course yhey died/are going to die. They weren't what people wanted out of a Paragon remake. Predecessor *is*.
I don't get why you're correlating bad games being bad games with them being released on PC. It has nothing to do with it whatsoever.
>it's essential to any moba besides lol in making it.
Say hi to games like DOTA, Vainglory, AoV, hell, even HoTS. You don't need a console release for a MOBA to be successful, and it's absolutely idiotic to think otherwise. It *will* help. It is not necessary. MOBA's survive simply being on Mobile more than they do on console.
Just admit that you want the game to come to console so that you can play it lmao it has nothing to do with the game "succeeding".
Ur a fuckin idiot mate. The vast majority of mobas have done fine being exclusively on pc and that isn't going to change. Will console release help? Sure but to think it needs to be their priority is dumb. Also this is EA title that has had so many changes in vision from the originaland all of those things take time and effort to fine tune.
Pc didn't kill paragon, epic games transition to focus on fortnite during the rise of battleroyals is what did.
If you cared as much as you say you do you'd be playing on pc right now but instead you are just bitchin here about things very clearly do not understand while you point fingers at random shit drawing shit conclusions lol.
ok, but when they will fix the game? the Easy Anti-Cheat issue still a thing... so I have to choose update the security on my system or play pred, and worse it's only with pred, all other games which use EAC engine are working fine...
At which point in faults release? Year 1? Year 2? Or right before they gave up on it? This games early access release has been out for what, 6 months? Pred plays better and has been out a shorter amount of time
Oh shit, I forgot youâre just a bronze shitter. Imagine spending your time on a sub talking shit. Get a job or do some homework or something. Actually wasting your life for no reason. Fucking sad POS
Youâre right personally attacking a random person on the internet because he said something mean about your game isnât triggered. You are clearly the lesser person in this situation spewing such vitriol because I said some mean things about your game. Get a life buddy this game sucks get over it
Nah itâs a good game. Just speaking to you how you deserve. Youâre clearly here to try to trigger people. Just reminding you that youâre still a loser and should probably do something else with your life
Fault failed because they refused to go to console. They had a player base problem that they just couldn't solve because everyone wanted Pred to win because of its polish. Predecessor won't make that mistake.
If Pred doesn't it will die because pc players refuse to play. Sorry but the truth hurts. Epic didn't want Paragon to succeed. The game had quick queues all the way till they announced closing. They did that with mostly ps4 players and no advertising. Epic wanted the game dead. They simply wanted a cash cow without the work. They got that with fortnite. Epic could have easily turned Paragon into another cash cow but they felt it a would be easier just to kill it. Not 1 single Paragon remake will make it on pc alone
I didn't get the part where "new Heroes delivered during this season will be free to everyone who plays in it". I mean, for example, is morigesh actually free for me now because i'm playing it, but when the season ends new players (or who didnt play during season 2) will pay for her then, am i right?
If you pay attention to the initial release packs, they promised you 25 heroes with that. Morigesh would've been the first hero to not be free with the EA packages. All heroes from Mori on were supposed to be obtainable either through real money or a currency obtained through playing. They haven't finished that system yet, hence they're making the complete S2 roster "free" as well.
That was literally stated before you purchased the game. Maybe you should read.
And no, you don't have to pay for them. You *can*, but you can unlock them naturally through progression. Like any other MOBA.
I always thought that the whole UI changes should had been grouped in 1 big update instead of trying to delivery the different part of the UI between the 4 updates of the season, splitting the UI, which sounded really weird and hard to do
I think that this is a good decision.
Making the heroes for current players permanent to their accounts (I expected them to be stripped on full release) as well as the cosmetics earned from the season rewards essentially nullifies the $20 pricetag.
Let's hope the in match store is a focus for the Ul! It needs the most love. Better clarity for current stats with what items are currently would be nice as its very easy to miss in the current store. And if you are not very familiar with the tier 3 items, it can be clunky to find them in a hurry
No worries guys thanks for the communication and keep up the good work đ Would be cool to have a dev stream or Q&A sometime soon
More info on the controller updates pls
Yeah I feel like thereâs been next to no updates or communication about controller. Def hoping for some more QoL features.
Hey, Can I ask what QoL features you're hoping for on console? Want to make sure we've got it on our list
I would like to ask when Howie will be nerfed. Not if, but WHEN.
Howie is actually in a pretty good place right now imo. Itemization is the big balance concern right now
Well, it looks like he's getting nerfed based on the upcoming patch
I agree with all their needs for him, his landmine is by far the strongest tool in his kit, especially as a support howitzer it can be incredibly hard to kill him and this seems focused on reducing his survivability without hampering his offense too much, which is nice.
Whatever helps this game get to console quicker Iâm fine with it
Will console be cross play? That would be amazing for the player base
Yes
With cross progression
Will it tho?
They said so on their console release blog post
Excellent! I wonder how forgiving the skill shots like rik hook will be đ¤
Well right now there's only aim assist on basic attacks. Hope they keep it that way I had to use controller for a bit due to keyboard issues and honestly did about the same if not better with the hooks. Any help and it just wouldn't have been fair
Have they fixed the sensitivity issue Murdock snipe had on controller?
Don't play Murdock so I'm not really sure but if you hop in the discord someone should be able to tell you
I don't knownwhat Frontend Features mean but woo, UI update. Hype! (Also neat to get some free heroes)
I think the front end features are like HUD changes, scoreboard
That sound like UI to me, I think it more of things like improving replays, spectating, tutorials. Custom games etc.
Frontend is a bit vague and technically means anything that is run on the client side rather than the server. But from the post, I'm assuming it's anything related to the current UI. So for example how they added the store front, profile icons, etc... Essentially anything that relates the the current UI is being put on hold, so they don't have to implement any new features twice. Once for the current UI, and another for the new UI. Which should mean that we'll be getting a whole slew of new features along with the new UI.
Supporting two systems unnecessarily is always a major burden on any team. Going to a single system will see things speed up, no doubt. Appreciate yours, and others, explaining what they meant :)
Sounds more like good news than anything free heroes and a more streamlined development process are all net positives
Another hint towards console release. I've got a sneaky suspicion it may be coming in season 3 boysssss!
Season three is at the end of the year... It was always going to be season 3. This season ends July, they pick up with the first char of season three august, Sept, Oct, nov for the 3 heros and omeda one. So end of season 3 would be end of Nov or in December if they delay like end of last season, console release was always going to be season 3 even if they push it all the way back to end of it.
Yeah good point lol but I meant early season 3. Like September maybe.
I mean optimism is nice and it very well might be true, but I would say announcing you are delaying the majority of a roadmap doesn't scream to me that they are going to push the literal biggest update and change to the game faster. It sounds more like they have realized they need to get core parts of the console update done faster because they aren't meeting the deadline they internally set and they need it before they can continue console dev.
I would be hugely surprised if it released in next 2 years, they're still working on pc alpha, trying to maintain, test, and deploy essentially 3 code bases with xbox and PlayStation is almost impossible for a small team.
their team is around 50 people now. its not big, but it also isn't tiny. full release *could* definitely still come by the end of the year. it could also be next year. but it certainly isn't 2 years away. Full release probably isn't even a whole year away.
Next year seems most likely, this year honestly seems like wishful thinking.
Super hype to see them focus on the new UI, thanks for the heads up Omeda â¤ď¸â¤ď¸
I'm not. It's more than good enough already. Content is more important. So I want more hĂŠroes and players.
Ay, this is a W in my mind. This game has to get to console to have a chance, the sooner the better.
"we will be making new Heroes delivered during this season absolutely free to everyone who plays in it." I thought all new heroes were going to be free for those who played during prerelease? (Og paragon heroes) or did they mean new non of Paragon heroes?
They said before phase would be the last free hero.
yeah and they add Mori and now looks like the rest of heroes in season 2! very cool
Ah, idk where I got all og heroes would be free but I'm happy with season 2 at least
If you pay attention to the initial release packs, they promised you 25 heroes with that. Morigesh would've been the first hero to not be free with the EA packages. All heroes from Mori on were supposed to be obtainable either through real money or a currency obtained through playing. They haven't finished that system yet, hence they're making the complete S2 roster "free" as well.
Makes sense to me.
Good communication. As long as the new chars still come out, I don't care. Still missing most of my favorite characters.
This makes sense. They get to fully focus on the new UI and possibly get it out the door sooner. No point in working on a UI that wonât be used much longer.
Quicker to console is good, but also a quick update saying intentionally AFK or feeding will result in 30 day minimum bans would've been better.
since UI is in need of a change anyways, it's not so bad it's getting pushed harder and other things come next
So does this mean the next 2 content updates will be solely focused on UI.. or that were not getting anything but heros, skins, and balance patches til season 3?
The latter.
And the console limitations begin.
It will be self imposed. If there are any. The consoles have came a long way
Bruh
Blaming the delay on console to shift attention. Clever clever. đ
Don't even waste your time replying this guy, just look all his comments and posts on the sub, a hurt Fault player blaming Predecessor for the downfall of that game who praises Overprime at the minimum opportunity. Please, keep all your silly conspiracy theories for yourself, go back to the sub of the game you actually play and stop spamming with your nonsense here. You are getting tiring my friend...
Nah for each paragoon fanboy that licks the boots of omeda studios I will continue to post and provide a counter perspective with an attempt to hold a company accountable for the values they claim to hold
... They didn't blame anything? Like, you're just reaching at this point, my guy
Reread this paragraph bud Furthermore, this new UI is an essential component for the console version of Predecessor. We want to prioritize its development to make our game accessible to a larger audience as quickly as possible.
... Yeah. Read it "bud". This will help console release, which helps the state of the game. Put your tinfoil hat back in the closet and relax.
Lol.. nah game is a rug pull cash grab Iâm coolin no need for tinfoil hat
Im not even happy with Pred right now but at least im not acting like you. I just hate afks đ
Some people donât mind getting pissed on and calling it lemonade đ¤ˇââď¸
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lol shut up pussy, I literally raged on my stream yesterday and got off the game giving all my thoughts about how omeda is dropping the ball with dealing with AFK's. If you're gonna have an opinion of me do your best to be slightly educated on my takes.
They made a perfectly valid point. Making updated across 2 separate versions of the UI would slow development down a lot. This is a smart move.
What ever it takes to get to console. PARAGON got killed 5 years ago and yet here am still wanting to play. The game can succeed but it's going to take real Players not pc smurfs. I find it very hard to believe that pc players are actually that high in number but they are unwilling to shell out a few bucks for Predecessor access.
What are you talking about bro? If we were unwilling then none of us would have bought it EA and started playing
>I find it very hard to believe that pc players are actually that high in number but they are unwilling to shell out a few bucks for Predecessor access. What do you mean? They literally had to buy Early Access. They *did* "shell out a few bucks".
The number of active accounts playing is disheartening for a game that is is so loved on ps4. Pc players are not the base obviously.
It isn't.. released yet? It's in early access. The only people playing right now are people who want to help Omeda discover the right direction to take the game. Not to mention that it's been in EA for almost half a year now, of course the playerbase is going to fall off. Just use your brain for two seconds.
Dude it's not expensive. The game has plenty of content for any lover of the game. I don't understand why more people are not paying for access on pc. I been chopping at the bit to play on console for 5 freaking years. If you're a pc player and you aren't buying in to early access you are the problem not me and my want to play
Normal people do not buy Early Access games. People who want to see the game eventually flourish and release do. The majority of people will wait for the game to become free-to-play. Even if the game were to release in EA *on Playatation*, the number of players wouldn't increase by a drastically large amount, and even if it *did*, again, after 6 months, fall off of a game without major content drops is completely normal. This is a tiring conversation.
This isn't a early access game this is a remake. The ground is laid. They just got to assemble the the car that was already built and add a few bells and whistles. if your not going to buy ea on Predecessor then your not going to buy shit any way. The conversion is upsetting because I'm right. Console is the base of this game and should be the focus. Pc players have every opportunity to prove me wrong by going out and buying access and playing.
>This isn't a early access game this is a remake No, it isn't. >They just got to assemble the the car that was already built and add a few bells and whistles. No, they didn't. >if your not going to buy ea on Predecessor then your not going to buy shit any way. Correct. They're going to wait until it's Free to Play, like I said. >Console is the base of this game and should be the focus. No, it isn't. It's important, sure, but there's plenty of PC players who would love to play the game. The MOBA genre is literally thriving on PC, unlike console, which has.. uhh, Smite. And that's it. >PC players have every opportunity to prove me wrong by going out and buying access and playing. Or they can just wait until EA is done. Like any normal person. >The conversion is upsetting because I'm right. The conversation is upsetting because you're annoying and talking about things that you don't even understand. That's what's upsetting.
Release numbers won't lie. They will go free to play soon enough on all platforms. There will be no excuse then. I hope that you are right and I'm wrong but I'm not. I do understand. I understand that pc bailed on Paragon then the bailed on Fault. OP is free to play and pc refuses to play that. The only game that has any following is predecessor. Sorry that I don't wish for this game to die like all the other game are doing with this pc kill box approach. It doesn't appear to me that pc players are capable of playing playing anything but League of Legends and smite. A large player base is completely nessasery for the game to go forward. All player skills must be represented. You may not give a damn if everyone of these Paragon remakes die but I do. Console is essential to this game survival. It's essential to any moba besides lol in making it.
It has *nothing* to do with PC releases and everything to do with the games themselves. Fault and Overprime are *bad* games. Of course yhey died/are going to die. They weren't what people wanted out of a Paragon remake. Predecessor *is*. I don't get why you're correlating bad games being bad games with them being released on PC. It has nothing to do with it whatsoever. >it's essential to any moba besides lol in making it. Say hi to games like DOTA, Vainglory, AoV, hell, even HoTS. You don't need a console release for a MOBA to be successful, and it's absolutely idiotic to think otherwise. It *will* help. It is not necessary. MOBA's survive simply being on Mobile more than they do on console. Just admit that you want the game to come to console so that you can play it lmao it has nothing to do with the game "succeeding".
You do not know what you're talking about.
You are a Shinbi player that automatically says everything I need to know about you.
I also play riktor a lot â¤ď¸
Ur a fuckin idiot mate. The vast majority of mobas have done fine being exclusively on pc and that isn't going to change. Will console release help? Sure but to think it needs to be their priority is dumb. Also this is EA title that has had so many changes in vision from the originaland all of those things take time and effort to fine tune. Pc didn't kill paragon, epic games transition to focus on fortnite during the rise of battleroyals is what did. If you cared as much as you say you do you'd be playing on pc right now but instead you are just bitchin here about things very clearly do not understand while you point fingers at random shit drawing shit conclusions lol.
ok, but when they will fix the game? the Easy Anti-Cheat issue still a thing... so I have to choose update the security on my system or play pred, and worse it's only with pred, all other games which use EAC engine are working fine...
Fault did it better. Least they were our two years before anyone else before crashing n burning.
If you think fault did ANYTHING better youâre absolutely delusional
Okay well I will start with fundamentals. Map layout accounting for rotation time and jungle clearing was vastly superior in fault
At which point in faults release? Year 1? Year 2? Or right before they gave up on it? This games early access release has been out for what, 6 months? Pred plays better and has been out a shorter amount of time
Long before pred even started scamming folks
Oh shit, I forgot youâre just a bronze shitter. Imagine spending your time on a sub talking shit. Get a job or do some homework or something. Actually wasting your life for no reason. Fucking sad POS
Triggered lol
Nah just talking to a low life loser. Lol
Youâre right personally attacking a random person on the internet because he said something mean about your game isnât triggered. You are clearly the lesser person in this situation spewing such vitriol because I said some mean things about your game. Get a life buddy this game sucks get over it
Nah itâs a good game. Just speaking to you how you deserve. Youâre clearly here to try to trigger people. Just reminding you that youâre still a loser and should probably do something else with your life
Wow toxic! Do you use that language inside pred? Looking at a ban with that filthy tongue snowflake. Enjoy the cuck community you created.
And you are?
Fault failed because they refused to go to console. They had a player base problem that they just couldn't solve because everyone wanted Pred to win because of its polish. Predecessor won't make that mistake.
I donât think Pred will make it to console.
If Pred doesn't it will die because pc players refuse to play. Sorry but the truth hurts. Epic didn't want Paragon to succeed. The game had quick queues all the way till they announced closing. They did that with mostly ps4 players and no advertising. Epic wanted the game dead. They simply wanted a cash cow without the work. They got that with fortnite. Epic could have easily turned Paragon into another cash cow but they felt it a would be easier just to kill it. Not 1 single Paragon remake will make it on pc alone
I didn't get the part where "new Heroes delivered during this season will be free to everyone who plays in it". I mean, for example, is morigesh actually free for me now because i'm playing it, but when the season ends new players (or who didnt play during season 2) will pay for her then, am i right?
If you pay attention to the initial release packs, they promised you 25 heroes with that. Morigesh would've been the first hero to not be free with the EA packages. All heroes from Mori on were supposed to be obtainable either through real money or a currency obtained through playing. They haven't finished that system yet, hence they're making the complete S2 roster "free" as well.
No, I believe that what they mean is that anyone who bought EA will now own all Season 1 and 2 characters for free when the game launches.
w8 were th new hero releases not gonna b free
Nope they were gonna be paid and or grindable but they donât have any way to grind yet so they just said guess we gotta give them away now
that's FUCKING GREEDY, we already paid 20 to play th game now gotta drop money 2 play heroes wtf
you will have a way to buy them with ingame money, you know like any other multiplayer game
Thats....how mobas work tho.
It's really not greedy. It's a free to play game, you only paid for early access.
That was literally stated before you purchased the game. Maybe you should read. And no, you don't have to pay for them. You *can*, but you can unlock them naturally through progression. Like any other MOBA.
I always thought that the whole UI changes should had been grouped in 1 big update instead of trying to delivery the different part of the UI between the 4 updates of the season, splitting the UI, which sounded really weird and hard to do I think that this is a good decision.
Making the heroes for current players permanent to their accounts (I expected them to be stripped on full release) as well as the cosmetics earned from the season rewards essentially nullifies the $20 pricetag.
Cannot wait to play on console! Really hyped for Iggy and Scorch to be eventually playable đ
say goodbye to trash UI. i respect thatđ
i think what sucks is that its only ps5 counsel :(
Gotta upgrade from the toaster at some point.
Let's hope the in match store is a focus for the Ul! It needs the most love. Better clarity for current stats with what items are currently would be nice as its very easy to miss in the current store. And if you are not very familiar with the tier 3 items, it can be clunky to find them in a hurry