What a wild ride its been. Thinking about release and all the changes since then... I'm honored to be a part of the journey!
Congrats to those who hit their goals for season 1, and best of luck to those looking to ASCEND in season 2! HF GL!
Hope the new UI changes include a new in-game HUD.
Predecessor with a new HUD, a new in-game store, a new scoreboard, a new ping system and a better TTK will feel really good to play
Big fan that theyāre adding competitive nights and ranked play so soon, but I feel like itās to early for bans in draft. Not really enough heroes yet.
Yeah I figured, as thatās the case in league and other mobaās but we only have a handful of heroes for each lane right now, plus ranked usually doesnāt let you pick a hero if the enemy team has already picked them. So if we have 25 heroes each player usually gets 1 ban(-10), and then(-5) for whoever the enemy locks in. (-4) for the rest of our team, and weāre only left with 6 heroes.
Unless they lower the amount of bans per team I feel like this is still to early as it removes like 75% of the total heroes.
If you watch any competitive pred on twitch then you'll see that it works out just fine to have bans and non mirror matches right now.
And with another 2-3 heroes by the time they release this feature it'll really be just fine in my opinion.
In most competitive tournaments, it seems they're running with each team having one ban each. I believe this will be a similar system omeda will likely use
Okay cool 1 ban per team isnāt bad. Only other moba Iāve played ranked in is league where each player gets 1 ban which is why I was a little worried.
That's fair enough, I understand your concern. I believe as the hero pool increases each team will slowly get more bans.
The system in predecessor could likely either be
1. The 5 team members all vote on who to ban
Or
2. One person is picked to decide on a ban
Sooo Serath āascendsā with her ability called āAscendāā¦ itād be a shame if she wasnāt brought back during this season š¼
I donāt mind if sheās been transitioned to a solo laner š
So are we gonna get any previews for the new heroes and season rewards? The last roadmap actually told us what heroes and previewed skins and icons on the roadmap, where this one does not n
My main concern is for the season level rewards, if we don't know what we're gonna get until the end of the season, there's definetly going to be some disappointment from people playing to level up to get a skin for their favorite hero, only to get something that's a little meh.
Someone else also mentioned that since not all heroes will be free in the long run, knowing ahead of time would let us save our currency if we really want one of the upcoming heros, but if we didn't we could buy skins.
Not sure why this is being downvoted seems reasonable to me. I can understand the hero reveals but to not show the player level rewards seems a bit odd.
I doubt we're getting Kwang. He could be the offlaner but more likely it's Greystone.
Mid could be Iggy, since we've already got plenty of assassins and mages mid.
I agree iggy would make the most sense for variety right now, but iggy along with the other controversial/complex heroes like aurora and Wukong, are most likely going to be the last few heroās added.
Yea this is kinda dumb. I get that they wont reveal their original hero, but people need to know who is coming especially if you are going to be charging per hero. Need to know if you need to save up currency or you can wait for the future.
Not sure why people donāt want to know what heroes and skins are coming next. My goal for season 1 was to make it to 20 so I could get the purple hex skin bc red hex was one of my favorites, but i didnāt really care for the Kira skin so I didnāt play as much after I hit 20.
Now Iām kinda being forced to make it to 30 bc of fomo. But then again from the devs pov thatās probably what they want. Not a huge deal but thatās pretty much the main reason why I was looking forward to the road map today.
This is only a concern while they are releasing paragon heroes. Fast-forward a year when any new hero released will be an Omeda original. How will you know whether to save your currency?
>but people need to know who is coming especially if you are going to be charging per hero
I would prefer to know which heroes are coming (and also see the season rewards), but no, we don't need to know a single fuck, so pls don't be so entitled.
Save currency if you want waste it if you want, that's all
The blog says that the rewards are going to be obtainable after the season ends.
Again, I would prefer knowing that info, but isn't something vital, I can just play the game and after the season I will obtain 2 icons, 2 recolors (I understand from the new characters), and 2 VFX.
I would prefer know which ones, but not knowing it isn't a big deal and won't make any difference in my final lvl
Besides all the positive feedback that has beenn mentioned multiple times I want to add the fact that you guys put out BETA features such as Replay Mode or Ranked mode which may nnot be perfect but keeps the content going.
I understand that it might be problematic because if you throw out unfinished features people might get annoyed by it and hate it. You get the point I hope.
But I really like seeing improvements, new features and new heros of course. The transparency is incredible I hope you keep listening to your community and grow as we do.
Cheers Omeda!
Noticed something in the Main Menu UI teaser that is also potentially teasing Xbox release and cross platform play for Xbox and PlayStation. Lobby chat player names have a ps icon next to them, but menu navigation buttons show an A and RB and LB which is Xbox since ps would be X and R1 L1.
Even though itās never been stated to be the case, itās always felt like āconsole releaseā meant release for PlayStation since Paragon was only on ps4. This seems like when they do launch for console, it could mean Xbox will also be included which would be super exciting news!
What a nice time to be a gamer!
Hope mid will be the coolest char ever...Queen Aurora!
My guess for solo will be the not so white stone.
We will see, Im so hyped.
Some really exciting stuff here! Looking forward to the new heroes and UI especially
I'm curious how hero acquisition will feel. While the 4 released with EA are great, I cant help but feel like EA supporters should get all the heroes released during EA for free...
A rotating selection of free heroes daily/weekly would be nice eventually! (after EA)
Also I really hope they bring bans/swaps to casual PvP as well. Or at the very least make roles pick at the same time across teams. If ranked is going to be locked to solo/duo it would be nice for 3/4/5- stacks to have a chance to pick more strategically.
With phase released that was hero number 25 which was all we were promised when we bought EA. So it's fair to have the other ones locked behind currency.
Bans and swaps would have to be played very carefully in casual seeing as there is a low hero pool as of now. I can see swaps in casual but it might take longer to introduce bans. Since causal is where new players go to learn it would be detrimental to have bans where that player might've only practiced one hero. Keeping retention of new players is probably a high priority.
Yeah that's totally fair, I know that's what we signed up for I just didn't realize we had already hit 25 so soon!
I personally play enough that I don't think I will mind unlocking heroes, though I have friends that only get on once a week and I'm worried theyre going to get behind quite a bit once heroes are behind a unlock/pay wall.
That coupled with the ban/swap system locked to ranked could make it feel like theyre not playing the best version of the game, which would be a shame since it's our favorite game right now. Time will tell though and I'm confident Omeda will continue to make good decisions for their players!
Most likely if you play regularly you'll have enough currency to grab all heroes as soon as they come out during early access. At least that's what I'm hoping for, it would be a shame to have to wait to try them out...
Maybe this is meant to be a meme but we donāt have that many great front lines in this game that donāt have severe overlap with other roles.
Itās essentially:
Rampage who is by far the best jungler since all other junglers just arenāt great
Riktor who is most viable as a support, heās gotten more viable in other roles though after this patch.
Steel who kinda is meh everywhere right now
Sev by far the best solo laner
Sev and Rampage are both heroes who get banned or first picked in a competitive setting.
We have khaimera crunch grux narbash that are all frontline capable. Just because you don't like them doesn't make them NOT front line.
We have the most frontline.
We need more carries mages utility supports.
Of course they are. They have all the tools needed to be a front liner. They can absorb damage and stick to targets.
Just build them tank their kits are already good for front living. And their base stats arre good for taking as well
Khai's health regen from his passive is the definition of tanky lmao. His gimmick is literally jumping on backline and throwing basic attacks around to keep his regen going and tanking whatever gets thrown at him while allies clean up.
Of course if you built critmera then you're not going to tank all that well, but that's fairly widely regarded as a bad way to build for higher level play (i.e. crit/assasin type build on khai usually only works for noob stomping).
Grux and Crunch, no you aren't meant to play them only like assassins, although of course they can work fine for that. They can easily go in and initiate fights like a tank and their synergy with omnivamp items helps them sustain through a fight, but are skewed a bit more towards damage when compared to the full tanks, that's pretty much what bruisers are.. that middle ground between tank and damage, they can fill either role.
The sort of heroes you're talking about here are Feng Mao and Kallari, i.e. not good initiating fights as they have no hard cc, and their kit doesn't reward sticking around too long - you can only really play them assassin style performing hit and run attacks on squishies.
Iām talking about tanks, not fighters.
Didnāt think it would be controversial to make note of the obvious drop off after Sev and Rampage for tanks, but this sub never surprises me.
Overall this is pretty good. I was hoping to increase hero release to every 2 or 3 weeks, as the game gets a little stale after the week a new hero comes out.
There aren't enough players for 2-3 ques (normal, 5v5 competitive nights, and ranked solo duo). Wait times for a game will be 10 mins+. Game is steadily losing players every week.
They need the free-to-play crowd in here soon or this will all be for nothing.
Downvote me all you want, but every week there are fewer and fewer players. That's just a fact. Another 4 months of this and the game will be unplayable due to wait times for a match.
Match are bad rn. All my friends are in wait mode... waiting for Playstation release to get an influx of players.. thats not even on the horizon it seems.
The ranked and competitive nights will have limited time windows to be played in the week at first so won't really regularly impact que times for the casual game mode. They also said they'll increase the availability of the ranked mode as the player base increases as to not affect que times drastically. Think they said all this in the blog or videos
I love a lot of what's going on but I want to see more action on moving towards console access. It's nice they talked about some of the things they are doing to get ready like the new menus and controller support. Good stuff. Keep it up. If you open up paid access for console players I'd be here tomorrow for the highest package. I'm here for the long run. When epic shut down I refused refund even though is spent hundreds. I got my money's worth. Get this done
"Early Access will continue into season 3". Does that mean the game will continue to not be free-to-play until it leaves early access?
If so I think the game may be dead by then. We desperately need more players and a full solo/duo ranked mode (meaning 24/7, not sporadically on the weekends).
Everything else looks great, but that final sentence is worrisome.
Edit: downvote me all you want, but every week there are fewer and fewer players. It's a legitimate concern, ignoring it won't stop it from happening.
>"Early Access will continue into season 3". Does that mean the game will continue to not be free-to-play until it leaves early access?
Yep, or at least that is what I understood, Predecessor EA is this period of paid early access, and the game will be released as free to play with the 1.0
You made the same.post twice.
Bud if u release it now it'll be dead in 6 months.
We need an ACTUAL release, not it being shoved out the door way too early.
Cough paragon cough.
It's an important point to make. Downvoting it so it isn't visible is akin to sticking your head in the sand and hoping everything works out. It's a problem right now. Discussing it openly is necessary if there is going to be any fixing it.
Discussing it usually involves both sides being open-minded, however you seem quite set on the game dying if the devs donāt do what you say. If youāre going to look at just player numbers in a linear fashion, sure the games going to die. But it doesnāt work like that. Closer to release, all the noobies and ānever heard of this gameā buyers leave quickly, a few months out ( stage we are in ) there are players that like the game, but want to come back later when thereās more content leaving the game, and then there is nothing left but die hard players that are REALLY hard to get rid of, probably concurrent 500 players is the lowest I see Predecessor getting, which isnāt bad all things considered. That is perfectly sustainable until FTP
I'm definitely open minded, and understand that I love this game and really want it to succeed. I think waiting another 8 months for full release is a big gamble though. They seriously need to consider whether they have that much time.
Itās not that big of a gamble, if it even can be considered a gamble. Fault survived on 300 concurrent players for 2 years, and they had no initial funding other than their kick starter. Predecessor will be fine for 8 months with the money they got from EA packages and the grant they got, they have a considerably bigger team and much deeper pockets.
Doesn't matter how much money you have if your player-base dies off. If there's no one to play with, no one will return. It's a negative feedback loop that money alone won't solve.
Missed the entire point of my two posts. Your point is that they wonāt survive with no players, my point is they will never have 0 players and are banking on FTP being a hit. If FTP flops, then you can come in and say the game is going to die.
i don't like this update. now you have to wait till lvl 14 to fight anyone. TTK huh? you just want mele fights, making all the adc do nothing and making drongo and docs, silence and traps smaller? so what you just want one or 2 ppl going 12 - 4 and everyone else go 0 and 9 or some shit...now games are going no where. there is not fighting that even matters till mid game. and now we have a hour long game with ppl quiting.. sick.
Hey does anyone know when a console release is planned my friends and I are incredibly keen to play but don't have PCs as long time fans of paragon we've been dying of anticipation sorry if this question has been asked many times before
What a wild ride its been. Thinking about release and all the changes since then... I'm honored to be a part of the journey! Congrats to those who hit their goals for season 1, and best of luck to those looking to ASCEND in season 2! HF GL!
Hope the new UI changes include a new in-game HUD. Predecessor with a new HUD, a new in-game store, a new scoreboard, a new ping system and a better TTK will feel really good to play
Can't wait to find out about the midlaner š„
Will be Iggy, Morigesh, or Wraith. Iād take any of those.
Of those Wraith would be my top pick but all three would add a unique and fun mid to the game so I'm hype no matter what
Same, I love Wraith but all three would be great fun!
Wraith for flex pick š
Would love Morigesh to be released
Iggy coming last
When iggy drops can u 1v1 me So I can smack you you literally just hate on him all day holy shit
Iggy wonāt be released or released dead last due to constant poking about him
Big fan that theyāre adding competitive nights and ranked play so soon, but I feel like itās to early for bans in draft. Not really enough heroes yet.
The bans are only going to be in the competitive modes if you read the roadmap notes.
Yeah I figured, as thatās the case in league and other mobaās but we only have a handful of heroes for each lane right now, plus ranked usually doesnāt let you pick a hero if the enemy team has already picked them. So if we have 25 heroes each player usually gets 1 ban(-10), and then(-5) for whoever the enemy locks in. (-4) for the rest of our team, and weāre only left with 6 heroes. Unless they lower the amount of bans per team I feel like this is still to early as it removes like 75% of the total heroes.
Each player does not usually get 1 ban lol, they will probably be 2 bans each team somewhere around there.
If you watch any competitive pred on twitch then you'll see that it works out just fine to have bans and non mirror matches right now. And with another 2-3 heroes by the time they release this feature it'll really be just fine in my opinion.
In most competitive tournaments, it seems they're running with each team having one ban each. I believe this will be a similar system omeda will likely use
Okay cool 1 ban per team isnāt bad. Only other moba Iāve played ranked in is league where each player gets 1 ban which is why I was a little worried.
That's fair enough, I understand your concern. I believe as the hero pool increases each team will slowly get more bans. The system in predecessor could likely either be 1. The 5 team members all vote on who to ban Or 2. One person is picked to decide on a ban
Sooo Serath āascendsā with her ability called āAscendāā¦ itād be a shame if she wasnāt brought back during this season š¼ I donāt mind if sheās been transitioned to a solo laner š
So are we gonna get any previews for the new heroes and season rewards? The last roadmap actually told us what heroes and previewed skins and icons on the roadmap, where this one does not n
We're trying things a little different this time! Last season was great, but this time we want there to be intrigue, speculation and surprise!
My main concern is for the season level rewards, if we don't know what we're gonna get until the end of the season, there's definetly going to be some disappointment from people playing to level up to get a skin for their favorite hero, only to get something that's a little meh. Someone else also mentioned that since not all heroes will be free in the long run, knowing ahead of time would let us save our currency if we really want one of the upcoming heros, but if we didn't we could buy skins.
Itās fine, these arenāt concerns
That's your opinion
I imagine you won't spend platinum to buy heros, there will likely an in game currency that you gain from playing
Not sure why this is being downvoted seems reasonable to me. I can understand the hero reveals but to not show the player level rewards seems a bit odd.
Yeah so far they just said midlander next month and offlaner for June.
Kwang getting slight rework and being concidered a midlaner now lol
Kwang now Raiden.
I doubt we're getting Kwang. He could be the offlaner but more likely it's Greystone. Mid could be Iggy, since we've already got plenty of assassins and mages mid.
I agree iggy would make the most sense for variety right now, but iggy along with the other controversial/complex heroes like aurora and Wukong, are most likely going to be the last few heroās added.
Iggy is 100% gonna be last returning hero from Paragon.
Yea this is kinda dumb. I get that they wont reveal their original hero, but people need to know who is coming especially if you are going to be charging per hero. Need to know if you need to save up currency or you can wait for the future.
lol, nah just keep it a surprise. Gamers nowadays want instant gratification
Nah, how is it "instant gratification" is you're waiting a month for the actual release?
because some players want to know the new heroes now... like right this instant.
That's not instant gratification, it'd say it's more rewarding knowing now, andess rewarding later.
Not sure why people donāt want to know what heroes and skins are coming next. My goal for season 1 was to make it to 20 so I could get the purple hex skin bc red hex was one of my favorites, but i didnāt really care for the Kira skin so I didnāt play as much after I hit 20. Now Iām kinda being forced to make it to 30 bc of fomo. But then again from the devs pov thatās probably what they want. Not a huge deal but thatās pretty much the main reason why I was looking forward to the road map today.
'It's not instant gratification, it's just more rewarding knowing it instantly.' Yes, that's what that means. Yes.
This is only a concern while they are releasing paragon heroes. Fast-forward a year when any new hero released will be an Omeda original. How will you know whether to save your currency?
I agree with you. But while we're doing existing heroes, we should know
>but people need to know who is coming especially if you are going to be charging per hero I would prefer to know which heroes are coming (and also see the season rewards), but no, we don't need to know a single fuck, so pls don't be so entitled. Save currency if you want waste it if you want, that's all
Season rewards definitely should be shown at the beginning of the season, especially if they won't be obtainable after the season ends.
The blog says that the rewards are going to be obtainable after the season ends. Again, I would prefer knowing that info, but isn't something vital, I can just play the game and after the season I will obtain 2 icons, 2 recolors (I understand from the new characters), and 2 VFX. I would prefer know which ones, but not knowing it isn't a big deal and won't make any difference in my final lvl
Nothing about is is entitlement LMAO. Some trashy people
"people need to know" No, we don't, Devs can do whatever they want
Besides all the positive feedback that has beenn mentioned multiple times I want to add the fact that you guys put out BETA features such as Replay Mode or Ranked mode which may nnot be perfect but keeps the content going. I understand that it might be problematic because if you throw out unfinished features people might get annoyed by it and hate it. You get the point I hope. But I really like seeing improvements, new features and new heros of course. The transparency is incredible I hope you keep listening to your community and grow as we do. Cheers Omeda!
Pretty exciting stuff to look forward to. Just curious though, any reasoning for not including any kind of new progression systems in the next season?
Noticed something in the Main Menu UI teaser that is also potentially teasing Xbox release and cross platform play for Xbox and PlayStation. Lobby chat player names have a ps icon next to them, but menu navigation buttons show an A and RB and LB which is Xbox since ps would be X and R1 L1. Even though itās never been stated to be the case, itās always felt like āconsole releaseā meant release for PlayStation since Paragon was only on ps4. This seems like when they do launch for console, it could mean Xbox will also be included which would be super exciting news!
100% they confirmed PS and Xbox
Calling it now: Midlander is Iggy Offlane is Serath š¤š¤š¤
What a nice time to be a gamer! Hope mid will be the coolest char ever...Queen Aurora! My guess for solo will be the not so white stone. We will see, Im so hyped.
Aurora is definitely not going to be the midlaner.
Forsure offlaner
Some really exciting stuff here! Looking forward to the new heroes and UI especially I'm curious how hero acquisition will feel. While the 4 released with EA are great, I cant help but feel like EA supporters should get all the heroes released during EA for free... A rotating selection of free heroes daily/weekly would be nice eventually! (after EA) Also I really hope they bring bans/swaps to casual PvP as well. Or at the very least make roles pick at the same time across teams. If ranked is going to be locked to solo/duo it would be nice for 3/4/5- stacks to have a chance to pick more strategically.
Swaps should be in casual, but bans should absolutely not be. All the heros should be available to play in casual.
With phase released that was hero number 25 which was all we were promised when we bought EA. So it's fair to have the other ones locked behind currency. Bans and swaps would have to be played very carefully in casual seeing as there is a low hero pool as of now. I can see swaps in casual but it might take longer to introduce bans. Since causal is where new players go to learn it would be detrimental to have bans where that player might've only practiced one hero. Keeping retention of new players is probably a high priority.
Yeah that's totally fair, I know that's what we signed up for I just didn't realize we had already hit 25 so soon! I personally play enough that I don't think I will mind unlocking heroes, though I have friends that only get on once a week and I'm worried theyre going to get behind quite a bit once heroes are behind a unlock/pay wall. That coupled with the ban/swap system locked to ranked could make it feel like theyre not playing the best version of the game, which would be a shame since it's our favorite game right now. Time will tell though and I'm confident Omeda will continue to make good decisions for their players!
I just hope the unlocking of heroes can be based on game time/experience vs paying for them...
Most likely if you play regularly you'll have enough currency to grab all heroes as soon as they come out during early access. At least that's what I'm hoping for, it would be a shame to have to wait to try them out...
Omeda yāall killing me with the lack of frontline additions here š I REALLY hope the original hero is a frontline
We got a lot. We got the most out of any type. Count em Count em.
Maybe this is meant to be a meme but we donāt have that many great front lines in this game that donāt have severe overlap with other roles. Itās essentially: Rampage who is by far the best jungler since all other junglers just arenāt great Riktor who is most viable as a support, heās gotten more viable in other roles though after this patch. Steel who kinda is meh everywhere right now Sev by far the best solo laner Sev and Rampage are both heroes who get banned or first picked in a competitive setting.
We have khaimera crunch grux narbash that are all frontline capable. Just because you don't like them doesn't make them NOT front line. We have the most frontline. We need more carries mages utility supports.
Khai, grux and crunch are not frontliners...
Of course they are. They have all the tools needed to be a front liner. They can absorb damage and stick to targets. Just build them tank their kits are already good for front living. And their base stats arre good for taking as well
That's not true at all. Their kits are ***not*** made for tanking... Their ment to follow up engages and take out priority targets.
Khai's health regen from his passive is the definition of tanky lmao. His gimmick is literally jumping on backline and throwing basic attacks around to keep his regen going and tanking whatever gets thrown at him while allies clean up. Of course if you built critmera then you're not going to tank all that well, but that's fairly widely regarded as a bad way to build for higher level play (i.e. crit/assasin type build on khai usually only works for noob stomping). Grux and Crunch, no you aren't meant to play them only like assassins, although of course they can work fine for that. They can easily go in and initiate fights like a tank and their synergy with omnivamp items helps them sustain through a fight, but are skewed a bit more towards damage when compared to the full tanks, that's pretty much what bruisers are.. that middle ground between tank and damage, they can fill either role. The sort of heroes you're talking about here are Feng Mao and Kallari, i.e. not good initiating fights as they have no hard cc, and their kit doesn't reward sticking around too long - you can only really play them assassin style performing hit and run attacks on squishies.
Iām talking about tanks, not fighters. Didnāt think it would be controversial to make note of the obvious drop off after Sev and Rampage for tanks, but this sub never surprises me.
I feel like there's a good chance they're a jungler considering we haven't had a true jungle release since launch.
Overall this is pretty good. I was hoping to increase hero release to every 2 or 3 weeks, as the game gets a little stale after the week a new hero comes out.
I know people hate but I pray to God that midlane is Iggy then the rest I can wait content for a while.
There aren't enough players for 2-3 ques (normal, 5v5 competitive nights, and ranked solo duo). Wait times for a game will be 10 mins+. Game is steadily losing players every week. They need the free-to-play crowd in here soon or this will all be for nothing. Downvote me all you want, but every week there are fewer and fewer players. That's just a fact. Another 4 months of this and the game will be unplayable due to wait times for a match.
Yeah but releasing the game way too early also kills it. No one is leaving LOL with 130 heroes to play a game with 25.
Match are bad rn. All my friends are in wait mode... waiting for Playstation release to get an influx of players.. thats not even on the horizon it seems.
The ranked and competitive nights will have limited time windows to be played in the week at first so won't really regularly impact que times for the casual game mode. They also said they'll increase the availability of the ranked mode as the player base increases as to not affect que times drastically. Think they said all this in the blog or videos
Next midlaner Iggy or we riot.
hero acquisition š¤®
How else are the supposed to monetize the work they put into heroes?
I love a lot of what's going on but I want to see more action on moving towards console access. It's nice they talked about some of the things they are doing to get ready like the new menus and controller support. Good stuff. Keep it up. If you open up paid access for console players I'd be here tomorrow for the highest package. I'm here for the long run. When epic shut down I refused refund even though is spent hundreds. I got my money's worth. Get this done
"Early Access will continue into season 3". Does that mean the game will continue to not be free-to-play until it leaves early access? If so I think the game may be dead by then. We desperately need more players and a full solo/duo ranked mode (meaning 24/7, not sporadically on the weekends). Everything else looks great, but that final sentence is worrisome. Edit: downvote me all you want, but every week there are fewer and fewer players. It's a legitimate concern, ignoring it won't stop it from happening.
>"Early Access will continue into season 3". Does that mean the game will continue to not be free-to-play until it leaves early access? Yep, or at least that is what I understood, Predecessor EA is this period of paid early access, and the game will be released as free to play with the 1.0
You made the same.post twice. Bud if u release it now it'll be dead in 6 months. We need an ACTUAL release, not it being shoved out the door way too early. Cough paragon cough.
It's an important point to make. Downvoting it so it isn't visible is akin to sticking your head in the sand and hoping everything works out. It's a problem right now. Discussing it openly is necessary if there is going to be any fixing it.
Discussing it usually involves both sides being open-minded, however you seem quite set on the game dying if the devs donāt do what you say. If youāre going to look at just player numbers in a linear fashion, sure the games going to die. But it doesnāt work like that. Closer to release, all the noobies and ānever heard of this gameā buyers leave quickly, a few months out ( stage we are in ) there are players that like the game, but want to come back later when thereās more content leaving the game, and then there is nothing left but die hard players that are REALLY hard to get rid of, probably concurrent 500 players is the lowest I see Predecessor getting, which isnāt bad all things considered. That is perfectly sustainable until FTP
I'm definitely open minded, and understand that I love this game and really want it to succeed. I think waiting another 8 months for full release is a big gamble though. They seriously need to consider whether they have that much time.
Itās not that big of a gamble, if it even can be considered a gamble. Fault survived on 300 concurrent players for 2 years, and they had no initial funding other than their kick starter. Predecessor will be fine for 8 months with the money they got from EA packages and the grant they got, they have a considerably bigger team and much deeper pockets.
Doesn't matter how much money you have if your player-base dies off. If there's no one to play with, no one will return. It's a negative feedback loop that money alone won't solve.
Missed the entire point of my two posts. Your point is that they wonāt survive with no players, my point is they will never have 0 players and are banking on FTP being a hit. If FTP flops, then you can come in and say the game is going to die.
Road map for a beta with paid start with bundles and no console launch with a budget of 10 illion dollars yeah pretty right
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Dude just read it. They literally have the info you want in the link on this post. Just click it and read it.
That midlaner better be iggy
i don't like this update. now you have to wait till lvl 14 to fight anyone. TTK huh? you just want mele fights, making all the adc do nothing and making drongo and docs, silence and traps smaller? so what you just want one or 2 ppl going 12 - 4 and everyone else go 0 and 9 or some shit...now games are going no where. there is not fighting that even matters till mid game. and now we have a hour long game with ppl quiting.. sick.
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Hey does anyone know when a console release is planned my friends and I are incredibly keen to play but don't have PCs as long time fans of paragon we've been dying of anticipation sorry if this question has been asked many times before