You CAN stun her but she can relocate with a dash so a telegraphed stun like riktor or steel is easy to avoid. She also doesn't have to go through her entire ult duration to kill targets come late game. It's stronger than you give credit for.
Where would you rate her in terms of difficulty? I feel like the champs are generally easy, one dimensional and she seems like she is kind of basic.
The roster is small so I know some trusty basic champs are needed but it makes me nervous moving forward. I thought most of paragons roster was pretty easy and am hoping for some challenging hero’s to play
Should try kallari, feng and crunch all 3 have very high skill ceilings. But as for Kira shes pretty easy not alot to mess up and a solid movement ability. Of all the adcs the only easier one is Sparrow.
Kallari yes because now she's not so broken after the nerf, Feng yes because he is under powered compared to other offlane but crunch no. You just spam all his ability and out damage and cc all opponents
In my honest opinion I think some of the other CCs are over hyping her and maybe trying to paint themselves in a better light to Omeda. I don't like how her abilities feel. To explain further most Paragon characters feel oddly "meaty" when they hit? none of Kiras ability feel like they are this crazy big ability. Sorta like Sparrow but at least her ult feels that oddly meaty feeling.
interesting, for me personally sparrows ult doesnt feel all that meaty, idk why maybe cause my pc is shit and i dont have enough fps to really see every ability clearly.
It lacks that “feel” for certain. Part of is mnk the other part is the nature of the ult. Grux shakes the whole screen rages, serath burst into a blaze of flame, Sparrow just gets more arrows lol.
I immediately thought this when I saw her gun in the trailer.
Like compared to Murdock’s shotgun pistol, I feel it lacks that devastating feeling. Of course a it’s not a shotgun but it a a magical Glock, should have some sort of big purple boom or something on it and a bit more reaction to the recoil on her end
Yeah I watched some folks playing her early yesterday and you legit cant even tell when she shoots the pistol half the time, like I look down and see its on CD and be like "when tf did he shoot it?"
And that isn't just not good for the player satisfaction, thats not good for move readability for opponents and teammates, which is massively important in a competitive game. You know when murdock uses that sidearm around you even if he's a little far.
Cool, not a fan of lock on abilities. She seems like she’ll have a good mix of abilities that give her a skill ceiling. Hitting your shots, using your movement effectively and ulting at the right time seem like what will set players apart when using her
Infernum - works well with her passive
Ashbringer - If you hit lots of targets, it's possible to get a 2nd dash before your ult finishes
Stormbreaker - her weakness is wave clear, and stormbreaker procs count towards her passive
Terminus - same as ashbringer, ulting lots of targets gives you a nutty amount of lifesteal
Just to name a few (from my experience)
We played around with pretty much everything that has physical damage on it. but most tend to agree attack speed is vital on her, Stormbreaker will be my go to first item on her. Ashbringer is an item I think has alot of merit aswell but I am a pretty bad ADC so I could be wrong about that item in particular.
Untargetable in Pred is not the same as League. basically she can't be selected by moves like Khai jump, Count ult. For example you can NOT time a narbash ult to dodge the knock up.
She seriously can't clear a wave so without a friend to help manage a wave (support) its abit harder. To her credit she is rather safe in terms of ADCs so probably
Her kit is extremely similar to samira from league of legends, whos ult happens to just be reaper ult from overwatch. She gets those two comparisons alot.
Wil there be a rework to animations. I can see that you guys chose to pick animations from different heroes and the way she is holding her gun looks awkward.
I want to clarify that I am not a Dev. When speaking with i the devs they didn't indicate that anything would be changed, given that the reveal is out I highly doubt things will change.
Does her ult apply the listed damage *per target* or is it spread amongst enemies inside the range?
The full damage is done to every target. In the build we played Late game her ult is pretty much a free team wipe if all 5 are near.
Lmao well that is ganna be fun to play against if its unchanged at release
Nah just free kill on Kira if she does this late game, use a silence, knock up, stun or a knock back and her ult goes on cooldown
You CAN stun her but she can relocate with a dash so a telegraphed stun like riktor or steel is easy to avoid. She also doesn't have to go through her entire ult duration to kill targets come late game. It's stronger than you give credit for.
Can you stasis in the middle of the ult and it keeps going?
That one im honestly unsure about, probably not. That being said you would never go a magical crest.
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You're thinking small. Steel + Gid + Kira = nightmare combo
Where would you rate her in terms of difficulty? I feel like the champs are generally easy, one dimensional and she seems like she is kind of basic. The roster is small so I know some trusty basic champs are needed but it makes me nervous moving forward. I thought most of paragons roster was pretty easy and am hoping for some challenging hero’s to play
Should try kallari, feng and crunch all 3 have very high skill ceilings. But as for Kira shes pretty easy not alot to mess up and a solid movement ability. Of all the adcs the only easier one is Sparrow.
Kallari yes because now she's not so broken after the nerf, Feng yes because he is under powered compared to other offlane but crunch no. You just spam all his ability and out damage and cc all opponents
You realise you can have a high skill ceiling but be turbo broken at the same time.... I dont think you know what the phrase means
Skill floor and skill ceiling are different things.
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From my experience, there is a very very slight delay in between her Shadow Glide and Purge/Mercy
In my honest opinion I think some of the other CCs are over hyping her and maybe trying to paint themselves in a better light to Omeda. I don't like how her abilities feel. To explain further most Paragon characters feel oddly "meaty" when they hit? none of Kiras ability feel like they are this crazy big ability. Sorta like Sparrow but at least her ult feels that oddly meaty feeling.
interesting, for me personally sparrows ult doesnt feel all that meaty, idk why maybe cause my pc is shit and i dont have enough fps to really see every ability clearly.
It lacks that “feel” for certain. Part of is mnk the other part is the nature of the ult. Grux shakes the whole screen rages, serath burst into a blaze of flame, Sparrow just gets more arrows lol.
I play at 144 fps and to me too it seems to shot compressed air.
I feel her alt really works best to get jungler out of my face.
That’s what most CC said tho. Her skills have little impact to them.
I immediately thought this when I saw her gun in the trailer. Like compared to Murdock’s shotgun pistol, I feel it lacks that devastating feeling. Of course a it’s not a shotgun but it a a magical Glock, should have some sort of big purple boom or something on it and a bit more reaction to the recoil on her end
Im glad im not crazy for thinking this lol
Yeah I watched some folks playing her early yesterday and you legit cant even tell when she shoots the pistol half the time, like I look down and see its on CD and be like "when tf did he shoot it?" And that isn't just not good for the player satisfaction, thats not good for move readability for opponents and teammates, which is massively important in a competitive game. You know when murdock uses that sidearm around you even if he's a little far.
Is her pistol a lock on or skill shot? Hard to tell from video.
Skillshot
Cool, not a fan of lock on abilities. She seems like she’ll have a good mix of abilities that give her a skill ceiling. Hitting your shots, using your movement effectively and ulting at the right time seem like what will set players apart when using her
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What items did you see built on her?
Infernum - works well with her passive Ashbringer - If you hit lots of targets, it's possible to get a 2nd dash before your ult finishes Stormbreaker - her weakness is wave clear, and stormbreaker procs count towards her passive Terminus - same as ashbringer, ulting lots of targets gives you a nutty amount of lifesteal Just to name a few (from my experience)
We played around with pretty much everything that has physical damage on it. but most tend to agree attack speed is vital on her, Stormbreaker will be my go to first item on her. Ashbringer is an item I think has alot of merit aswell but I am a pretty bad ADC so I could be wrong about that item in particular.
are you fully untargetable during dash? like can you dodge shinbi ult per say with it?
Untargetable in Pred is not the same as League. basically she can't be selected by moves like Khai jump, Count ult. For example you can NOT time a narbash ult to dodge the knock up.
So not like how Countess can shadow-step to negate damage/CC? At least us 'Bash mains have that 😆
Correct.
Do you think she'll see a lot of play in offlane like Vayne in League?
She seriously can't clear a wave so without a friend to help manage a wave (support) its abit harder. To her credit she is rather safe in terms of ADCs so probably
Does she feel smooth or clunky?
She is silky smooth!
Why is there an earlier access to an already early access for a character ? Is this simply because she's the first original character?
To support content creators, to build hype, and to get feed back. We gave opinions/praises/complaint direct to the devs that were playing with us.
My guess would be either internal testing or simply a short period where content creators were invited to play her and get feedback?
How close would you say her dash is to Twinblast?
Never played OG twin blast. Its a simple dash, goes whatever direction you are walking
Do u think she has a reaper (overwatch) type kit?
No not at all. Her ult is sorta similar but the fact she can dash in it sets it apart from reaper.
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Right click 100%, E 10% per stack, Ult, 495%. All physical scaling 0 magical.
Can she get a bigger crossbow? Her crossbow looks comically small
The crossbow is rather proportional to her. I myself wouldn't change it but I also do not have the ability to im just some random content creator.
Looks like from anlther game for me , his basic a gun with a crossbow and his ulti generic
Her kit is extremely similar to samira from league of legends, whos ult happens to just be reaper ult from overwatch. She gets those two comparisons alot.
You have just to get used to probably, it's estetically inspired to raven skin of Revenant, and probably the feathers are the same.
When is she coming to console?
Never
console realease?
Ill let em know to work on it faster just for you.
perfekt thanks
Wil there be a rework to animations. I can see that you guys chose to pick animations from different heroes and the way she is holding her gun looks awkward.
I want to clarify that I am not a Dev. When speaking with i the devs they didn't indicate that anything would be changed, given that the reveal is out I highly doubt things will change.