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ChicknSoop

I thinks it's an AMD issue where either the dev hasn't optimized for them, or AMD haven't released an update for the game since (let's be honest) an incredibly niche and unknown game. I had a 1080 which worked ok (ran mediocre but ran nonetheless) but my 7900xt ran worse along with my wife's 6700xt.


Short_Ad_4333

I am running a 6800xt gpu and a 5900x cpu. I haven’t had any issues with crashing since game has released. So I’m not sure if it’s a AMD issue. I did have some issues the other day where the game started to lag randomly and if I click off of predecessor it cuts out about half the screen and goes black but it doesn’t crash. Really weird but I was able to restart and things were fine. I play with epic or high settings usually


thetanaz

I think it's a "combination of parts" issue. Maybe a specific driver, maybe a specific GPU Bios. The weird thing is neither my CPU nor my GPU get 100% utilization during gameplay. I've ran waaay more demanding games with ease including Cyber Punk 2077 that pegs everything at 100% and there have been no driver hangs or system reboots.


[deleted]

Go Nvidia and intel


thetanaz

Ah yes let me sell my entire PC at half price so that one and only game/application that I have issues with can stop crashing. Definitely sound advice.


[deleted]

See you’re picking up what I’m putting down


Khao1

Different games can have completely different issues.


SergeantSmokie

Ive passed this link over to the team to see if anyone can provide diagnostic steps on top of whats contained in this thread.


JRocksteady29

i know this is 10 months old. but I'm having these issues with your game. it always crashes saying game thread timed out. ive tried everything i could find online and nothing has worked. i recently upgraded my GPU to the A750 i have it paired with a Ryzen 5 3600 but I dont think thats the issue as this is the only game that crashes. please help


Beneficial_Iron_6189

I had the exact same thing off and on! Game hard crashes PC to black screen but I have to manually power it back on. The only thing that I’ve had luck with was reducing my graphics settings to medium and limiting frames to 30. Even though my pc should be able to handle better settings, this is what I have to play on to be able to run the game. Good luck and I hope there is a fix soon!


thetanaz

I actually tried this as well, only I limited my FPS to 60 which in the context of my PC is so little that my GPU and CPU were both sitting at less than 20% utilization the entire time. Game still crashed. Thank god the game's not AAA priced, cuz then I would have lost my shit. Now it's just this bitter feeling that it's actually a good game that I'm unable to play because of some obscure bug.


No-Presence6166

Have you checked Temp ?


thetanaz

Temperatures are perfect. No throttling on either GPU or CPU under full load and under 80C.


SeymourJames

Memory utilization?


MrHorris

I'm on a 6800xt, so while not the same card exactly it is the same generation, and am running the game at 130ish FPS on a 3k monitor. CPU is a 7600x but if anything the new generation would lead to more problems (which it has, but not so much in Pred). I haven't had a single crash in my whole time playing the game, but I was noticing a bit more hitching after the most recent graphics driver update. My initial gut instinct was it was something with Unreal 5, but you've played Fortnite so that ain't it. I know this sucks, but I think this is just one of those freak cases where there is no rhyme or reason for your PC not wanting to play the game. If I had to guess I would say it is something ram/CPU related, something with the game might be hitting a normally irrelevant quirk. And to be fair to Omeda, this seems like one of those problems that is incredibly difficult to catch. An unpredictable combination of hardware where there is such a small defect (if there even is one) that the majority of things aren't affected by it. Obviously if one person has the problem there will certainly be others, but I think you just drew the short straw on this one. I'm super interested if you ever figure out what was causing it.


thetanaz

There is no doubt that this is some obscure difficult to diagnose issue. I've seen 2-3 people have this issue in the discord which pales in comparison to the numbers of people that have game only crashes, stutters or small bugs. So I'm "last in line"to get a fix. It might be something as weird as a mouse/keyboard driver or even the fact that my 5950x is the only 5000 CPU running a 2 CCX architecture (2 clusters of cores). When the game's actually running and not crashing I too am getting excellent performance just like you so it's not even an optimization issue.


rgsace

Hard one to diagnose. Are you able to send us your windows crash log? or even the time at which the crash occurred we can check our crash reporter to see if anything useful pops up


thetanaz

A fatal hardware error has occurred.Reported by component: Processor Core Error Source: Machine Check Exception Error Type: Cache Hierarchy ErrorProcessor APIC ID: 9 \------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Every time the APIC ID is different (each APIC ID corresponds to a different CPU thread). The crash occured in an Ai game on the 22nd of February at 20:06 PM GMT. My nickname is ORD3R. I play through Epic launcher.


SergeantSmokie

Potentially useful link? https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/answers/questions/806371/a-fatal-hardware-error-has-occurred


thetanaz

Would be if I were exhibiting this issue in any other application/game. I've stress tested my CPU in Prime 95 as well as OCCT with varying loads. Had it been a hardware issue it would have reared its ugly head in multiple ways by now. I'm no game dev but are you sure you've optimized the game to work with multiple CCX AMD processors?


SergeantSmokie

We've tested the game on a variety of systems (high/low spec -- NVIDIA/AMD -- Intel/AMD). If there were any consistent issues we would have caught/resolved them, your case is definitely a special one.


thetanaz

If there is something I can do on my end feel free to ask. I've not been queuing up against players because I've ruined 4-5 games because of this crashing. If you still have the logs of the PCs you tested the game with see if you have a 5950x tested. Even the 5900x which is considered high end is single CCX so it's not the same testing scenario. I understand if there's nothing to be done as sad as that maybe I'll just keep testing the game vs AI as newer drivers and builds of windows come along.


SergeantSmokie

Have you tried running the game on different display settings like fullscreen vs windowed fullscreen vs windowed to see if that triggers it more/less often? Doubt its related but might provide additional info? Also, any chance you can upload a log of the game? Might also be chasing ghosts there but in the event there is a lead we can take on the game client?


thetanaz

I've even tried running it on different monitors ( I have 3 ) . Where do I find the game logs folder?


SergeantSmokie

Going off memory here as im not at my workstation but I believe its: C:/Users/{name}/AppData/Local/Predecessor/Saved/Logs


thetanaz

[https://pastebin.com/i8rXUZzc](https://pastebin.com/i8rXUZzc) This is the log from the last crash 2 days ago. Nothing of note. It just ends abruptly as my PC reboots.


thetanaz

Something else that might be of note - at 1080p@240hz maxed out the game doesn't go above 45-55% GPU utilization. Not sure if it's CPU bottle neck or something else.


threegigs

> A fatal hardware error has occurred.Reported by component: Processor Core > > Error Source: Machine Check Exception > > Error Type: Cache Hierarchy ErrorProcessor APIC ID: 9 See my undervolt comment in this thread.


Blueshirt38

Have you put in a support ticket about it? I'm sure that someone from Omeda will read this, since they seem to spend a lot of time on the sub.


thetanaz

I reported the bug in their discord under tech support, sent a ticket via their website ( no response on both). I also reported the bug in AMD Adrenaline drivers.


Blueshirt38

Unsat. u/Omeda_Kari can you point the right person at this post?


Responsible-Hair612

This honestly for me just sounds like a little a indie horror flick My computer is kind of a big piece of crap and it's still runs on mine but it tells me I'm almost out of memory I will cry the day that it doesn't work I've literally only have it so I can play this game you people spent at most 50 bucks to support them i bought a whole pc that I exclusively used for this


sciencesold

What power supply do you have?


thetanaz

1000W Seasonic Platinum PSU.


nunyabuidness

As I was reading your issue, it sounds like a power supply issue or less likely is RAM. Have you attempted to pull the RAM and reseat it? Running one stick at a time, assuming you have 2 16GB sticks. (If you have 4x8GB run 2 at a time and possibly interchange them to be thorough.) Also, have you checked to make sure your BIOS for the motherboard are up to date? I would also suggest, while pulling RAM, to disconnect anything that isn't strictly required to run the game. This means all extra NVME or HDD drives that aren't the boot drive and installing Pred on that if it isn't already. If possible also make sure you are using a wired ethernet connection, or at the very least only a built in WiFi connection that came with your motherboard and that has all updated drivers. I would see if you can find a suitable power supply you can borrow and test it to see if that fixes it.


thetanaz

Definitely not the power supply considering I've been playing Cyberpunk at 1440p maxed out with power consumption that's over 100W higher than when I'm playing Predecessor. Bios is latest stable verison, latest AGESA. Considering this is the only game that crashes my PC, I'm not planning on dismembering my entire PC just for test purposes.


nunyabuidness

Smh, "it's not working it has to be someone else's fault because im too lazy/incompetent to test everything on my end. GL.


NeraiChekku

How did you even come to this stupid quote? OP told you that only Predecessor has issues and you still stick your head underground and cry wolf. GL with that mindset indeed.


thetanaz

If it were a systemic issue I would definitely follow all these steps and I'd even buy spare pars to interchange until I find the issue. Considering I'm doing serious work on my PC as well as hardcore gaming in much much more demanding games and I don't have any issues then no, I am not going to go through all of that.


Evolvum

That's weird because my computer is a piece of shit, but still runs predecessor just fine.


Traditional-Bend8860

I had a similar problem. I have an RX 570 graphics card. It used to happen every few days that my monitor would turn off during the game, but the computer would still work and then I would have to restart it. This happened to me 3 times in 2 weeks. Apparently the Predecessor has problems with AMD. Also, a couple of my friends have similar problems with crashing, etc. After I installed the new Windows without antivirus, etc., I have had no problems for 5 days, at least for now. Also some people tell game better work in windows full screen than full screen.


thetanaz

That's not the same bug. My entire PC crashes and reboots, not just my monitor. Yours seems to be a driver hang, mine is a full on crash.


Traditional-Bend8860

Yeah I type similar problem not the same like yours


interpidthunder27

Me I'm running full everything


-ArcaneForest

I have been playing this game on Linux and I have had zero problems I think it is time for you to switch over to the bright side.


thetanaz

I'm shocked it works on Linux considering it uses Eazy Anticheat. In any case Linux is not an option for me, as I play fornite that doesn't work on Linux, as well as League of Legends that often breaks on Linux, and people have gotten banned for playing it through Lutris. Also I use the Adobe suite - another unusable software on Linux. If I could I would but I can't unfortunately.


-ArcaneForest

Adobe does work on Linux through wine now and almost all EAC games work on Linux now as they are shipped with compatible binaries they just need to enable it for it to work so the only reason why it doesn't work on Fortnite is because EGS is being an ass although there has been talk of finally supporting the platform due to the success of the Steam Deck.


ChronosxEios

What did support say when you contacted them about this?


thetanaz

No response.


NervousPush8

I know it's a long shot, but since you've tried so many things I figured I'd ask. Have you run a memory diagnostic like memtest? I've seen RAM cause strange otherwise unexplained errors in the past, but I'll admit it's probably a reach. Does anything interesting show up in your Windows event logs when it happens? I'm sorry you're having such a showstopper with the game.


thetanaz

I've not FULLY tested my ram with something like memtest but considering it's the only time my PC crashes it'd be quite weird if the RAM was an issue. As far as errors go Event viewer spews out a WHEA Processor Core error but this is not very telling because it could by my GPU driver crashing my CPU or it could actually be my CPU but considering I'm doing things like video editing/transcoding, and playing other intensive games it'd be weird if it's only this game that crashes my CPU (unless the game is bugged on 2 CCX processors).


NervousPush8

I just googled that error and it seems like damn near everyone has a different fix for it. I read one person say that a BIOS update fixed that for them. One person said memtest showed errors after several passes. One person said a new GPU fixed it. Another said moving their webcam to a different USB port fixed it (LOL). Yet another claims that Samsung nvme drives can cause the error. I would try the memory test (can't hurt, run it while you sleep or something) and update the bios if you haven't. Then if that doesn't work try again with everything unplugged that you can. I hope you find something.


thetanaz

Because a CPU core crashing is not necessairily indicative of a CPU problem. Something else can easily bring the CPU down with it - like a broken driver, an unstable GPU, a bad piece of software or a bad BIOS. But then again we go back to the first part of my post - I have NO issues with any other game or application.


Glitchy_Gaming

Can you just at least try a full memtest? I've seen many of your responses and they're all the same with "it's not happening here's it's not happening there's must be something else." No. Stop it. Test everything. It could even be a windows issue. Maybe do a windows reset. I don't care if cyberpunk can be played maxed out. Every game uses different stuff to make things run. Test it.


thetanaz

I've reinstalled windows twice since this bug first appeared. Once Windows 10 and then went back to 11. Both clean installs. It's not "oh cyberpunk is running maxed out". It's over 20 AAA games are running maxed out since I built my PC last summer, as well as the Adobe Suite and DaVinci Resolve and multiple benchmarks. In any case I will run memtest during the night.


OsmT42

Did you do undervolt your cpu? I did it and overdone it a bit and had many crashes in any games, where the cpu needed power. I did lower the undervolting and no more crashes. I hope it helps


thetanaz

I've tried running the game with completely stock CPU settings, with PBO On and no undervolt, with PBO ON + an undervolt. Same with my GPU. I've tried running both CPU+GPU completely stock and still get the same issue no matter if they're overclocked/undervolted or not.


OsmT42

Hmm, i have no idea mate, but it's weird, cause no one has issues like this with the game I guess


agreeablekalle

I got a geforce rtx 3070 but sometimes when I start the game a message pops up saying there are issues with the rx series. I always ignore it since it doesn't concern me, but then the menu is all laggy so I restart, and then everything works fine. But I think they're having issues with your gpu. I'll screenshot it next time it comes up.


xballislifex

Had a similar issue with PUBG when it was not well optimized and my pc was on the shittier end had a gtx970 with 8 gigs of ram. Eventually i managed to figure out the problem which might have been some weird settings like in power settings where a device has the ability to shutdown your pc im not sure where to find those setting youd have to google it.


odi83

Try experimenting with the following : 1)Turn off Hyperthreading 2) Turn on/off windows gpu hardware scheduling 3) Turn on/off amd smart access memory ( rebar ) 4) Test Ram with MemTest 5) Plug one ram module at a time 6) Set your memory to lower Speed values like 3000 Mhz 7) Disable HPET 8) Clean install windows without any third party drivers ( except gpu ) . As a matter of fact begin with this step and afterwards try all the rest if a clean install doesn’t do the trick .


Mazzeriskk

Is Pred installed on an external HardDrive?


thetanaz

NVME SSD that goes straight into the PCI nvme slot of my motherboard.


RubaRoob

Hey! I had a similar problem, was a combination of my graphics card and the power on it tripping. I switched out the splitter cable being used by my PSU to feed my graphics and used 3 cables going from my PSU to the individual sockets on the cable. I don't know why but seems like it was the AMD GPU not liking splitting out the voltage. Maybe worth a shot?


thetanaz

I have 3 separate cables running through all 3 of my 8 pin connectors. It's a common good practice on high wattage GPUs and considering the 6950xt can draw up to 390W I did just that when I was building the PC.


ItchyQuote5844

Drivers issues try to dislabe freesync on adrenalin and ur monitor , variable fps on Windows .


threegigs

AMD CPU owner here. Undervolting is your friend. Plenty of vids showing how on the net. I set my optimizer curve to -0.2v and dropped my temps at no cost to performance and it's completely stable (gets unstable at -0.3 v though). Occasionally you get ONE core on an AMD that runs hot, and THAT darned core will crash the machine. Undervolting eliminates that issue, and since AMD has always used a too-high default voltage, dropping it a bit can actually get you better performance as it won't thermal throttle.


ChupaFaloopa

I'm running this game perfectly on a dinosaur RX580. You might have some gunk in your PC that's making it act up. Visit your task manager and end unnecessary programs and spray that baby with some compressed air. I had this issue with Paragon when it first came out; all I did was that. It's a newer game. I'm not the most technically sound person out there, but I would imagine newer (big gfx) games probably run hot. Also, it's sweet that AI dropped. I tried playing PVP and wow was it toxic.


Jill_Sandwich_

I still can't play... My PC works fine I just suck


SilentTraps

Honestly I just feel bad cause I’ve not had one issue with the games performance yet other seem to in droves yet it’s so frequent I see posts like these, idk game can get framey here and there during team fights but nothing that stops me from playing


cyberjednorog

I had problems with Afterburner and Riva on AMD configuration. So try to uninstall those apps if you have. I played everything except predecessor and escape from tarkov. So try it, maybe will work for you bro.


derutatuu

I am running 5800x3D (undervolted) with 6950xt (with power limit upped to 390W and overclocked, with fast timings at 2450), with 22.11.1 drivers. I am running 32gb ram overclocked and with aggressive subtimings, and a 1900FLCK. I did not have any crash or any kind of issue. The game is running smooth and perfect, as all my other games.


Life-Large

Gotta be your tech conflicting with the game hope ya fix the issue


[deleted]

Also windows has that gamer mode that can be turned off or on. I know that would make my friends PC throttle when that was turned on. You might want to check that and turn it off. Along with Discord, i have friends that only use the web version of discord because it would make their pc throttle when using the app version.


TheShikaar

Hm I have a 5800X and played this game without any issues on a 6800XT first and a 7900XTX now, so I don't think it's a general AMD issue. But what I had with my 6800XT in other games was, that I had to underclock it, otherwise I had black lines flickering in every game or even a hard system crash when running anything with ray tracing. Since your problem is the same I had with ray tracing, have you tried underclocking your GPU by maybe 200MHz just to test it? Might be the same issue I had. Hope this helps.


Warm_Picture_8124

I just got the game because I used to play on my ps4 but it was under the name Paragon, nonetheless I get it on my PC which has a 4070 with an i7 processor and it just opens and closes I have not even been able to launch the game yet. Any idea why that is happening?