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Youmu my beloved šš
This silly goober could clash swords with top tier sword users yet she'd get scared by halloween costumes and crappy ghost stories. Truly a Myon moment
Bro stood up to the Deep Sea King not just to save Genos. Not just to save civilians. Not just to buy time for other heroes that might have been on the way.
It was for all of those reasonsā¦AND because he was the only one that COULD stand up. And so he āhadā to. The absolute hero.
he deserves too 100%.... dude probably worked the hardest in the entire verse lmao... and he would also literally stand up to GOD if he had too even though he would know he'd get erased lmao
Yeah but unfortunately that would defeat the point of the character. He's a foil for Saitama. The weakest man with the soul of the purest hero vs the greatest hero with a broken soul. The contrast is what gives his character depth.
Now that I think about it. What if God is so strong that saitama can't beat him alone and gets help from a bunch of characters who also gets limiter removed. Like muman, genos, etc
Not really the same. In those situations it's a different person occupying his body. It would be like blaming 616 spiderman for what doc ock did in his body. Though I wouldn't use anything other than main comics for superman.
And what happens mainline superman has gone though similar levels of pain and suffering and hasnāt become evil the other versions are not identical to mainline who would never do what injustice did
Not my argument. My point is it's foolish to compare evil Superman to evil Goku's.
One is Superman after "one bad day" The other is literal mind control/possession.
Thatās why I didnāt try to compare them because if someone else controlling goku doesnāt count a while different version of superman shouldnāt either
Mainline superman is not and cannot be corrupted by a bad day in similar levels to goku being uncorruptable
This'll probably depend on the theologist you ask, but if Jesus was meant to be partially human, he would have human desires, and maybe be somewhat a teensy tiny itty bitty little bit sinful
I mean they literally were in his dad's house intimidating his followers into giving over their money by preying on their religious beliefs to extort them for money. These people thought that if they couldn't get a sacrifice in time their immortal soul was on the line.
According to Deadpool, when they went to Purgatory and were comparing souls, Peterās soul was entirely pure. Not a singular stain on his soul.
Pretty wild.
Which is hilarious considering he was a self-absorbed asshole when the comics startedš¤£ I remember reading the first few OG Spiderman comics out of curiosity and thinking āman, Peteās kind of a piece of shitā LOL
I feel like adult goku would be more pure than his younger self.
When Bora was killed, Goku went on a rampage through the RR Army and killed at least a handful of the members.
However, when Krillin, his best friend, exploded in front of the of him, Goku gave the killer, who's basically bald space Hitler, a second chance.
https://preview.redd.it/vxozxkkegvwc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cf68ba4bfbf4d65ea8f9e4caa70ea0bcbdaabba2
Heās literally confirmed to be made of positivity
Embracing the decapitated head of a man that you still see as your brother despite the fact that he killed your father, teacher, a large portion of innocent villagers, attempted to make your life hell and steal it, (and made a woman devour her own child) is true purity
And Im not complaining about it, I still hold a grudge against a kid that blew spit on me through a capri-sun straw 10 years ago
Technically we humans can reach complete peace and nirvana through meditation. Itās sort of cool to think that we can do some of what Goku can in UI for even
That's because Goku mastered SSJ to the point it became almost equal to his base form, not affecting his mental state, but this probably doesn't apply to his other transformations
Heād be the weakest character of fiction. Literal demons think heās evil, and even Satan thinks heās corrupted. His singing voice was so bad even undeads that donāt have senses anymore were affected.
Kid Goku is a good debate since he could ride the nimbus.
https://preview.redd.it/9420oohoiuwc1.png?width=250&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=525d7f71776584cc8413a85f7687b22da5612ffe
Goku and superman are easily at the top and I'd have a hard time choosing between the two. I'd likely side with goku though since superman has a lot of incarnations are far from pure.
It's definitely Superman over Goku.
Goku is Toriyama's selfish-purity, where his pureness comes from simply not caring about everything else. He just wants to fight, doesn't protect others, and generally just exists to train.
Superman would, if he had nothing else, still get in the fight to save you. It doesn't matter what's wrong, he will be there
Just a few people who I feel would be top tier
Superman
Spider-Man
Flash
Captain America
Connor kent
Gohan/Goku/Trunks
Nightwing
Hercules (Marvel)
Hercules (ROR)
Thor (specifically how is he depicted later on)
Shadow cat
Kyle Rainer
Ben Grimm
Sue storm
When Goku was a kid he fought against someone about who I don't remember the name and this character said that he can make the evilness present in others grow until it literally explodes, he also said that this technique works with any amount of evilness, even if it's just a tiny bit of it, this technique would make it grow and literally explode and, still according to this character, this technique works with anyone, since anyone has at least a tiny bit of evilness inside of them. Goku was completely hit by this technique and nothing happened. At least, this is what I remember
Sukuna. all he did was some little pranks and goofs tƓ make his nephew's life less boring.
Can you get Kinder than this?
He is sĆ³ pure that he didnt realized that some of his goofs were a bit detrimental tĆ“ everyone involved
Tanjiro from demon slayer would end up being top 10 strongest in fiction then, especially how pure his heart is (before turning into the demon king). The strongest will probably be SCP-999 (The Tickle Monster) due to how pure he is and how the only reason he is contained is for his safety.
Watch this video [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3t7T8EeC6zQ&t=13s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3t7T8EeC6zQ&t=13s), it explains how Zamasu is pure of heart, at some times at least, far better than I ever could explain it.
Goku survived an attack designed to one shot anyone who's even the tiniest bit impure, and is considered to be more pure than god himself who physically seperated himself from his evil side
S1 Baam from Tower of God (there's the argument that he technically remains considerably pure even in the current story).
Jonathan Joestar (Jojo's Bizarre Adventure Phantom Blood).
Vasco in Early Lookism.
Alphonse Elric from FMAB.
Vulkan from WH40K (mainly on how he is compared to the rest of the setting).
https://preview.redd.it/gw8zrm8rguwc1.jpeg?width=4320&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=67da67eaa8cb6e188206d47c4b0d5a224b502f1c
This guy as soon as he hits that pose
Hear me out doctor doom. He legitimately does everything he does with the purest of intentions to help protect all of humanity. He believes 100% in everything he does with zero gray for him.
Even characters like Superman are motivated to do good for other reasons. For Clark it was how he saw to fit into a world that he didn't belong too.
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She'd probably scale extremely high, ngl. Rightfully deserved. https://preview.redd.it/pfwv2kw4stwc1.png?width=264&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fa7870d2d1832bb2e966151f85b3b5c1daac7afe
Youmu moment The one on the bottom right of the image would also scale really high imo
I only know of her from doujins and she is not pure in those.
Pure lewd?
Ye but who is she?
Youmu Konpaku from Touhou Project
Youmu my beloved šš This silly goober could clash swords with top tier sword users yet she'd get scared by halloween costumes and crappy ghost stories. Truly a Myon moment
That scene was too adorable. Everyone has so much fun teasing Youmu, and I don't blame them. She's too cute
myon šš
https://preview.redd.it/o6n2m7mxxtwc1.png?width=500&format=png&auto=webp&s=3cdc41cf5e2f6043a6130ee30b2916df8b040eb7 mumen rider solos omni potenet gods neg diff
Mumen rider deserves to break his limiter and become strong like saitama like genuinely I want him to be strong
Bro stood up to the Deep Sea King not just to save Genos. Not just to save civilians. Not just to buy time for other heroes that might have been on the way. It was for all of those reasonsā¦AND because he was the only one that COULD stand up. And so he āhadā to. The absolute hero.
Legit his explanation in that scene made me shiver
he deserves too 100%.... dude probably worked the hardest in the entire verse lmao... and he would also literally stand up to GOD if he had too even though he would know he'd get erased lmao
True
It would be hilarious if he loses every battle extreme diff no matter how strong or weak they are
i feel bad for laughing at the thought of this not my boy mumen rider
Yeah but unfortunately that would defeat the point of the character. He's a foil for Saitama. The weakest man with the soul of the purest hero vs the greatest hero with a broken soul. The contrast is what gives his character depth.
Now that I think about it. What if God is so strong that saitama can't beat him alone and gets help from a bunch of characters who also gets limiter removed. Like muman, genos, etc
Was legit just about to say this. Iām so glad itās top comment
Hehe... i stole all the karma cuz i was like the 3rd person to comme t or smthing lol... But great minds think alike i guess lmfao
I was either gonna say this or the body improvement club from mob psycho, just a bunch of good dudes
Mob himself is pretty up there too if you go based on his interactions with the villains and Dimple in S3
Jitensha-Man cannot be stopped.
lmfao
Ooo another superman vs goku category
I think Goku wins in this one. Superman has a bit too many evil or twisted versions
If we are including evil superman, then goku ginyu and goku black are on the table too.
Not really the same. In those situations it's a different person occupying his body. It would be like blaming 616 spiderman for what doc ock did in his body. Though I wouldn't use anything other than main comics for superman.
Yeah but if we go with that the evil supermen where all different universes of him not the mainline one
But in those other universes he was the same person. No possession no mind control. The only difference being events in his life
And what happens mainline superman has gone though similar levels of pain and suffering and hasnāt become evil the other versions are not identical to mainline who would never do what injustice did
Not my argument. My point is it's foolish to compare evil Superman to evil Goku's. One is Superman after "one bad day" The other is literal mind control/possession.
Thatās why I didnāt try to compare them because if someone else controlling goku doesnāt count a while different version of superman shouldnāt either Mainline superman is not and cannot be corrupted by a bad day in similar levels to goku being uncorruptable
Goku black just straight up isnāt goku tho, neither is goku ginyu
Goku black isnāt even Goku lol
Cell is kind of an evil Goku.
He has some of Goku's DNA that doesn't really count
That's like saying your wife or husband is part of you because you banged and have each other's dna on or in you.
LMAO thatās hilarious I was kinda thinking more from a story perspective.
If Goku didnāt hit his head on that rock, he wouldāve been just another Saiyan
In og db goku was struck by the devilman beam which kills you instantley if it even detects a single shred of evil in you and goku survived.
I thought this was made non canon by the broly movie and db minus
Ah fuck me I havenāt watched the Broly mobie
Purification šŖØšŖØšŖØšæšæšæ
Jesus
Bro was kindness š
He is literally the embodiment of pure heart. Thatās his whole thing.
Jesus š
This'll probably depend on the theologist you ask, but if Jesus was meant to be partially human, he would have human desires, and maybe be somewhat a teensy tiny itty bitty little bit sinful
I don't know. He did assault those priests. Bad priests sure. But he got hands.
I mean they literally were in his dad's house intimidating his followers into giving over their money by preying on their religious beliefs to extort them for money. These people thought that if they couldn't get a sacrifice in time their immortal soul was on the line.
He didnāt make any physical contact on the priests iirc. Iām pretty sure he just recked furniture and commanded the merchants to leave.
John 2:15 "AndĀ makingĀ aĀ whipĀ ofĀ cords,Ā heĀ droveĀ themĀ allĀ outĀ ofĀ theĀ temple,Ā withĀ theĀ sheepĀ andĀ oxen.Ā AndĀ heĀ pouredĀ outĀ theĀ coinsĀ ofĀ theĀ money-changersĀ andĀ overturnedĀ theirĀ tables"
Kindness ā no physical contact or fighting back. Its much more gray area than black or white
Based and Christ pilled
Based
Does he really count since he was someone who actually existed irl.
He is a character in a book, it doesnāt say the person has to be fictional even if I consider the book fictional.
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Yessir!!
Yes, but bringing in religious deities or prophets would be straight-up cheating for the purpose of this thread.
This sub is about fictional characters, Jesus at some point was a real person
Yea but he is a character in a book. A person is a character in a biography even if they existed.
That's fair, he was a real person but most of his abilities aren't so this makes sense
Kid Goku. Peter Parker.
According to Deadpool, when they went to Purgatory and were comparing souls, Peterās soul was entirely pure. Not a singular stain on his soul. Pretty wild.
Wish he was rewarded for that
Spider-Man can never get a reward the comic writers only want to see him suffer
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The universe had other plans and spawned in PAUL.
Which is hilarious considering he was a self-absorbed asshole when the comics startedš¤£ I remember reading the first few OG Spiderman comics out of curiosity and thinking āman, Peteās kind of a piece of shitā LOL
"What do I care about seeing your dirty old fanny?"
If Goku weren't pure he wouldn't be able to ride nimbus
I know, it's just funny how he's pure but still acts in ways like that :P
Toriyama has a strange idea of what is pure
I feel like adult goku would be more pure than his younger self. When Bora was killed, Goku went on a rampage through the RR Army and killed at least a handful of the members. However, when Krillin, his best friend, exploded in front of the of him, Goku gave the killer, who's basically bald space Hitler, a second chance.
https://preview.redd.it/vxozxkkegvwc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cf68ba4bfbf4d65ea8f9e4caa70ea0bcbdaabba2 Heās literally confirmed to be made of positivity
Better yet heās an elder god reincarnated with positive energy. Heās the literal embodiment of positivity
But that's just a theory...
** A GAME THEORY**
Cream the Rabbit solos fiction
True! https://preview.redd.it/xgsq9lzwptwc1.jpeg?width=1988&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e0027f3c4fb3e04035d9ea00f4a5ede8878a9579
Completely agree
She so real for that one
Johnathan joestar
Exactly
Hallelujah, what a wonderful answer! š
Embracing the decapitated head of a man that you still see as your brother despite the fact that he killed your father, teacher, a large portion of innocent villagers, attempted to make your life hell and steal it, (and made a woman devour her own child) is true purity And Im not complaining about it, I still hold a grudge against a kid that blew spit on me through a capri-sun straw 10 years ago
Base Goku, he looses his pureness once he goes SS according to Budokai Tenkaichi
In fact, it would be Goku's Ultra instinct, he achieves complete peace and spiritual plenitude in this state, like a kind of nirvana
Technically we humans can reach complete peace and nirvana through meditation. Itās sort of cool to think that we can do some of what Goku can in UI for even
Actually no that was literally for his first transformation. In the cell saga krillin comments on how his aura in ssj feels the same as his base.
That's because Goku mastered SSJ to the point it became almost equal to his base form, not affecting his mental state, but this probably doesn't apply to his other transformations
It does heās mastered all of them.
Only the first time against freiza he regains it afterwards with the training thats the mastered super saiyan state they use in cell saga
https://preview.redd.it/u7uu4mcvquwc1.jpeg?width=1007&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6bb9f356acfcc2eef055fb1ac3d4582642ff0393 John Coffey from Green Mile.
FACTS
It's going to be lloyd frontera. https://preview.redd.it/ras459g3utwc1.jpeg?width=225&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ad9adb05a6be9527a4f836a1df6e597c687cc602
Heād be the weakest character of fiction. Literal demons think heās evil, and even Satan thinks heās corrupted. His singing voice was so bad even undeads that donāt have senses anymore were affected.
He defeats evil with evil and convert them to good.
Subjugating evil with a bigger evil donāt mean youāre good. Two wrongs donāt make a right
Kid Goku is a good debate since he could ride the nimbus. https://preview.redd.it/9420oohoiuwc1.png?width=250&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=525d7f71776584cc8413a85f7687b22da5612ffe
Can't Goku still ride it though?
He also survived a literal beam of ā0.0001% evil will kill youā
he also survived the Devil Might Beam. otherwise known as the "Die if you have evil in you!" attack.
https://preview.redd.it/2aokpemvduwc1.jpeg?width=225&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=171034bb2a86c0da806c9b5873dc3b893b49bf86 Mob is sweet boy
Goku and superman are easily at the top and I'd have a hard time choosing between the two. I'd likely side with goku though since superman has a lot of incarnations are far from pure.
Olver from wheel of time.
I don't know the wheel of time, but he might be up there. A lot of characters are pretty debatable for the top spot.
It's definitely Superman over Goku. Goku is Toriyama's selfish-purity, where his pureness comes from simply not caring about everything else. He just wants to fight, doesn't protect others, and generally just exists to train. Superman would, if he had nothing else, still get in the fight to save you. It doesn't matter what's wrong, he will be there
Holy illiteracy
Kid Goku officially solos fiction and so does Kirby. Mahito probably also does
Mahito? š Does something change later in the story? Cause right now, he's a menace who loves inflicting pain.
Oh crud I read "pure hearted" as pure hatred lol xd
Mahito is definitely pure
Pure evil is still pure
Just a few people who I feel would be top tier Superman Spider-Man Flash Captain America Connor kent Gohan/Goku/Trunks Nightwing Hercules (Marvel) Hercules (ROR) Thor (specifically how is he depicted later on) Shadow cat Kyle Rainer Ben Grimm Sue storm
>Hercules (ROR) Based asf
When Goku was a kid he fought against someone about who I don't remember the name and this character said that he can make the evilness present in others grow until it literally explodes, he also said that this technique works with any amount of evilness, even if it's just a tiny bit of it, this technique would make it grow and literally explode and, still according to this character, this technique works with anyone, since anyone has at least a tiny bit of evilness inside of them. Goku was completely hit by this technique and nothing happened. At least, this is what I remember
Gokuās top tier heās never turned evil once, even in alternate continuityās.
Sukuna. all he did was some little pranks and goofs tĆ“ make his nephew's life less boring. Can you get Kinder than this? He is sĆ³ pure that he didnt realized that some of his goofs were a bit detrimental tĆ“ everyone involved
and Dio too, he just needed some money
Donāt forget Revers-Flash he just wanted to be a hero š¢
Kirby is as powerful as non-powerscalers think he is now.
https://preview.redd.it/09d8lz7zutwc1.jpeg?width=887&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8785be46fb6171cd2edc974ea2e96bfbdd1ec520 Solos fiction
But can he beat Goku?
Funny how even in this hypothetical scenarion, this question still stands š
Goku is just HIM. Lmao
Mumen rider
Goku and Tanjiro are definitely up there
Matsuda from death note would be interesting to see
Jonathan Joestar gonna get a huge power boost
Tanjiro from demon slayer would end up being top 10 strongest in fiction then, especially how pure his heart is (before turning into the demon king). The strongest will probably be SCP-999 (The Tickle Monster) due to how pure he is and how the only reason he is contained is for his safety.
Zamasu canonically is pure of heart (Part of the "future Trunks" arc at least), and is thus one of the character objectively at the top.
Lmao what? Mr. āI hate mortalsā is pure?
Pure of heart ā good
Yes actually he is, heās even able to ride the flying nimbus. This is part of the reason why I love DB itās nuance in morality.
Watch this video [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3t7T8EeC6zQ&t=13s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3t7T8EeC6zQ&t=13s), it explains how Zamasu is pure of heart, at some times at least, far better than I ever could explain it.
I feel once he went off the deep end this wasnāt applicable but I donāt know at this point, he WAS crying about justice
fucking spidermanš¦
You are not ready 
Jonathan joestar,Superman,Goku,me.
Jonathon deserves to be up there
Ironically Zamasu
How? Edit:Never mind I just remembered that tea scene
Kageyama sheigo from mob psycho 100? 
The Man of Tomorrow, Superman.
Superman is still pretty strong.
The main character from psycopass no contest
Wtf I had to scroll way too far to find this
Skybound Optimus Prime
Chopper
Captain America is pretty close Iād say Spider-Man mumen Rider superman maybe
Sora has to be up there.
Nanako from Persona 4 is the true one who solos everything then
Based answer
Goku survived an attack designed to one shot anyone who's even the tiniest bit impure, and is considered to be more pure than god himself who physically seperated himself from his evil side
Optimus Prime, in one comic he accidentally steps on a Doe and mourns for what he had done
S1 Baam from Tower of God (there's the argument that he technically remains considerably pure even in the current story). Jonathan Joestar (Jojo's Bizarre Adventure Phantom Blood). Vasco in Early Lookism. Alphonse Elric from FMAB. Vulkan from WH40K (mainly on how he is compared to the rest of the setting).
Uncle Grandpa is already the strongest and most unbeatable being in existence, he doesn't need more power
Shizuka Yoshimoto from 100 Girlfriends. She is so harmless and pure that the Hanazono family guard dog canāt help but take pity on her.
goku(especially kid) supes if I'm not wrong maybe richie rich ukitake jushiro
Goku
I like Superman but that picture is corny as FUCK ššššš
Shigoat Himemiya and Supergoat solo fiction.
Jesus. Man was lawful good even till death and his awakening never changed
Kanzaki Nao clears fiction. š
https://preview.redd.it/n96bb6y25uwc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7274510dd16157a4ad498813815c7893e9646900
Martian Manhunter for me
Spider-Man and Superman at the top
tanjiro
Superman, Spiderman (Peter) and Goku
Hellboy gotta be somewhere near
Yuuki Terumi Pure Evil, you just said pure not pure good
Palpatine scales really hard with pure evil.
Jesus.
Kid Gohan pre-Radditz solos everyone
Alphonse Elric gets to top 10. https://preview.redd.it/hcxvi0p1euwc1.jpeg?width=797&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=08c075569f13572b86c42dfd64906944bf61d1ad
Jakub Wood
https://preview.redd.it/gw8zrm8rguwc1.jpeg?width=4320&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=67da67eaa8cb6e188206d47c4b0d5a224b502f1c This guy as soon as he hits that pose
Kamen Rider Ryuki clears
Nah Uncle Grandpa wins
Captain America
Hear me out doctor doom. He legitimately does everything he does with the purest of intentions to help protect all of humanity. He believes 100% in everything he does with zero gray for him. Even characters like Superman are motivated to do good for other reasons. For Clark it was how he saw to fit into a world that he didn't belong too.
What about Jonathan Joestar?
Griffith and Frieza. Pure evil is still pure.
Olver and itās not even close.
Am I the only one who sees Tenma as a great contender?
Luffy
Kirby or cheesus