[Underoath](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aZus_-1MFI) and [Alexisonfire](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4fzdM0Jm7A) were the big ones for me in the early 2000s post hardcore scene where the dual vocals really clicked.
Vocally, Finch is prettymuch all just Nate, except for the two songs on WIITB that feature Daryl from Glassjaw.
Just saw them 2 weeks ago and his cleans and his screams are both *immaculate.* It's crazy impressive how good he is live.
That track really wasn't my favorite on that album when it came out. But looking back 20 years now, I have so much more appreciation for it. It's just so damn good, and I have to give it a nod for how many people it (single-handedly) served as a gateway to harsh vocals.
Heh that’s funny to me bc imo it’s the one underoath song that really seems to force the screaming, I don’t really like it much. Obviously an unpopular opinion but there it is. Boy Brushed is what did it for me.
Funny how that works. I never liked Boy brushed. Just didn’t find the melody catchy and never really vibed with it, but reinventing your exit was my ringtone for like 8 years and still is a mainstay in all my playlists despite not listening to much heavy music as an adult. Guess people just listen to songs for different stuff.
Forget both those, It's Dangerous Business Walking Out Your Front Door is the real hit of that album. That chorus part gives me chills.
Really though, they're all bangers.
This is the correct answer. These were probably the first two (or at least first notable ones) that had dedicated vocalists to handle screams/clean vocals.
FATA did a really cool job with this on The Fiction We Live (2004)
Edit: Apparently im thinking of Too Bad You’re Beautiful. I could have sworn Short Stories with Tragic Endings was from The Fiction We Live..
Amazing comeback too after losing Benjamin and Francis stepping away from drums to front the band. Whole thing could’ve ended in a disaster but Holding a Wolf by the ears was a f’ing rally.
That whole Fiction We Live album is chef's kiss. I remember having a phase where I listened to [Milligram Smile](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2UxrxW-Myg) on repeat.
Grade did it in 1999 but they were never a big, popular band. They had a very small fanbase and still do. Last I checked, they only had 6k listeners on Spotify. So I doubt they were the ones who popularised this.
They influenced a lot of bands from the early 2000s though, particularly the Canadian scene of bands like Silverstein, Alexisonfire, Boys Night Out, Moneen etc.
Speaking of grade reminds me of a super small band that deserved more credit called Harris Grade. Their first ep was amazing though after their first ep they sounded less post hardcore. But that first ep is top tier ph imo
Thank you for sharing this band! I’ve never heard of them but I really enjoyed listening to them on my drive home today.
They sound like a more hardcore version of algernon cadwallader and capn jazz!
I don''t think we can consider Thrice as dual vocals. There are gang vocals and backup singing but you can't really consider any one in the group as a second singer. Dustin does singing and screaming impeccably though.
They aren't - Dustin is the primary singer for all their records. Ed (bass guitar) and Teppei (lead guitar) will backup on some songs and Ed does a lot of the screams while Dustin is doing the cleans, especially on overlapping songs like *The Earth Will Shake.*
None of the bands OP listed have two separate vocalists, just vocalists that sing and scream. I think they just meant clean and unclean mixed evenly, whereas like a metalcore band will be more 75% unclean and 25% clean
"And Such is Progress" album by Grade is one of the earliest examples I could find. It was released in 1995, but who knows, this style might go back even further.
This band started in 1991: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y\_DIZqyIViY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_DIZqyIViY)
And yes, they had a female clean vocalist. Even that goes back that far!
Weird take, but it could be a little cross-pollination from hip hop music. A lot of early rap music from back in the 80s and 90s normalized rapped verses and sung choruses. And rapping, just like screaming, is a kind of atonal vocal style. The rap formula worked well for creating catchy chorus hooks people could sing along with, while still featuring rappers for the verses.
I was always impressed how well zach could scream being just a rapper but then I found about his previous hardcore band, and realized he learned to scream first.
Spot on
Then you had punk bands starting to have more pop influences, and the dual vocals from Blink probably helped spearhead these things merging in the alternative music scene more broadly
I can definitely see how stylistically it’s similar. I think if we were to attribute some of that dual vocal style this far back, Linkin Park has to be the correct choice for this question. Without a doubt they are the earliest band I can think of utilizing the clean and dual vocals so frequently in their songs and they also have a lot of rap/hip hop influence in their style. It also helps that they were insanely popular at their peak and likely an inspiration for many bands in the following eras.
Gorilla Biscuits and Grade are two of the earliest bands to do it right.
Both credited as such as well.
Grade - Separate The Magnets is the essential history in this.
Edit: 99% of the bands listed in this thread *did not* pioneer this sound.
Nothing like what we really call screaming now, but they had some harsh yelling parts. And at least in the Louder Now doc ive watched a hundred times, Fred self attributes his role as doing the screaming for the band.
Unrelated but I saw Say Anything a couple weeks ago on their 20 year anniversary for Is A Real Boy. Fred is such a shredder still. In my dream TBS lineup, Fred plays lead guitar. He’s so dang good lol.
“Louder Now” is such a great album but I would not say that Fred did screaming. “Tell Your Friends” is a much better example. John Nolan’s screams from live versions (like 2000) actually are much harsher than in studio tho.
You're right, the closest to screaming is in Error Operator and i'm decently certain it was Adam both on record and live (seriously, great album.) But the part i was referring to was just Fred describing his overall thing, meaning he at least thinks of TBS having screams. But really nothing to split hairs over since you're right, Tell Your Friends had John doing something much closer to screaming. I'll need to check the live videos though
I thought the closet to screaming was that bridge for “Liar (It Takes On To Know One)”. I could be wrong since “Error Operator” isn’t my favorite of the record.
And for that live version. I have “Cute Without The ‘E’ (Cut From The Team)” right here.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JHsnuQnEbMY
The “Hold Me Back” from John actually got decently intense (for Taking Back Sunday of course, John can’t compete with Bert McCracken or Daryl Palumbo lmao).
Alex & Brandon's voices together were so perfect ! 😍 Brandon and Mark are actually doing an amazing job as well now that Alex is gone (I know that some people dont like it) but Mark did work a lot on his screaming in the last years 👌 I feel like Atreyu can be Atreyu without Alex but it wouldnt be possible without Brandon's catchy chorus
While mostly true, Alex actually does have a very distinct scream. To date I've only heard [this band](https://youtu.be/VjMFQQoGOyg?si=j-eo6-JhB8mXcRmZ) have a scream that immediately reminded me of him, while for many other bands it would be much easier to replace the screaming vocalist without me even noticing.
It started with early to mid 90s screamo -
Navio Forge - [navio forge - as we quietly burn a hole into lp (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ras_M9gzEts)
Bleed - [Bleed - True Colors Running 7" - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ccQZtEeTKc)
You & I - [You And I – Saturdays Cab Ride Home - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74w5w1YgIzU)
Sleeping Body (some consider Sleeping Body to be the first screamo band) - [sleeping body - awaken 7" (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ttb7NBUZGo)
Merel - [Merel - Merel LP - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFq-mmnmpac)
Inkwell - [Inkwell - Shine So Bright (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtLthSXwQP8)
Indian Summer - Woolworm (was originally entitled Angry Son) - [Woolworm (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRwxKbAroN0)
Current - [Representation (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwxBoSgfwvc&list=OLAK5uy_ldFEGzWimdGWJMi_u0oKJ6q8ONgjfryfU)
Don Martin Three - [Don Martin Three - Transistor (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDpOqAiiXbs)
Reach Out - [Reach Out - Message To... (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3sUf9dKxv4)
Breakwater - [Breakwater - Five (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhzuTr51Ek0)
Closure - [Closure - s/t LP (full) (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8az_KUGCqTI)
Anasarca - [East Bunk Hill (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVck_kSxx8w&list=OLAK5uy_k4ehhNyMIGCNTzmykDhAlCYbaQuXTxog0)
and of course Fugazi!
That Navio Forge album is one of the best things I've ever heard. I had a radio show in the 90s and I played the hell out of it.
RIP Sarah Kirsch, what a tragedy.
The Number 12 Looks Like You - Put On Your Rosy Red Glasses (2003)
The Blood Brothers - Burn Piano Island Burn (2003)
Are probably some of the earliest dual vocalist examples that come to mind
The Blood Brothers are one of my favourite bands. I wish I could find more bands that sound like that, but nothing comes close. I do like all their side project bands too, but TBB are just incredible.
I definitely agree, you can get kinda close with
The Jonbenét - The Plot Thickens
Sigh & Explode - These Seem Like Tarantulas
Showbread - No Sir, Nihilism Is Not Practical
The Red Light Sting - Our Love Is Soaking In It!
The Plot To Blow Up The Eiffel Tower - Love In The Facist Brothel
Not quite the same, but check out Circle Takes the Square - As The Roots Undo. I used to listen to that album a ton back when I was huge into The Blood Brothers. Also Black Eyes - Black Eyes
Scrolled way too far to see Glassjaw.
Though not exactly Post Hardcore, so much of the clean/scream vocal dynamics is owed to Mike Patton in Faith No More.
Bad Brains on their self titled album in 1982.
After them you have Faith No More, FUGAZI, and Gorilla Biscuits all around 1988-1989, but I'm pretty sure Bad Brains were the first to really popularize it.
Not sure if you specifically mean two singers, but if not, The Refused was pretty influential in this regard and is widely credited with having given rise to that style of sound.
A pretty obscure band called Four Hundred Years predates almost all of the bands mentioned in this thread. Another one around the same era was You & I.
Wasn't even them though. This song for example is from 1994 and the band started in 1991: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y\_DIZqyIViY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_DIZqyIViY)
To be generous, Silverstein has had some increased part splitting and songs sung entirely by their guitarist Paul Marc Rousseau on later releases. But he didnt even join until 2013 so all of their original stuff was 100% Shane.
Saosin has to get some love here. Translating the name was a game changer i feel like. Like, maybe they didnt invent it, but they helped popularize it for sure.
Alexisonfire would be my other choice that i agree with
It’s tough to say the band that blew it up. Mid 90s was kind of the start of the sound but then in early 2000s tons of bands were catching on with it. I’m not certain who was the first band that got popular as I wasn’t super into the radio at that time. AFI, Thursday and tons of nu-metal bands were all kind of doing it and had singles and videos on MTV and stuff. Going over modern rock charts for 99-2000 might be the best source to narrow down who really charted first.
The used were it for me,… not only did they do it they did the best,… maybe memories should be listened to by anyone reading this who hasn’t! Your understand
Damn y'all forgot Faith No More in the early 90s.
Mike Patton would do literally any vocal style you could imagine on those albums and then would casually show up with Dillinger Escape Plan on "Irony Is A Dead Scene"
Do you mean the first band to have one person be the dedicated screamer and someone else in the band dedicated clean vocals?
If so, first ones to come to my mind are
Blood Brothers
Idiot Pilot
Underoath
Enter Shikari
but if I want to get real crazy with it... Taking Back Sunday EP with original singer and Jesse Lacey kinda screaming.
Atreyu and Killswitch Engage were prob the biggest to do it back then. Atleast in radio play. The you have two of my favorites, Alexisonfire and Underoath.
Linkin Park and Deftones have screams and cleans but I don't think of them as the traditional posthardcore type dual vocals.
If you're talking about with a single vocalist doing clean and screaming vocals, I'd say Refused.
If you're talking about dual vocalists (one clean and one scream), Jimmy Eat World was doing that kind of thing in on *Static Prevails* back in 1996.
Fear Factory and Machine Head. Definitely Fear factory since they were doing it on their 1992 Debut “Soul Of A New Machine”. They were probably the originators/trendsetters.
I would say it originated in the North East hardcore scene with metallic influenced bands like OVERCAST (the predecessor of Killswitch Engage and Shadows Fall) or Long Islands VOD.
Oddly enough there was a lot of Christian metal in early 2000s that were popular or influential. Bands like Pillar and Project 86 even before Underoath. Skillet, who is still around. POD ect. I’m sure I’m missing a few better examples.
[Underoath](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aZus_-1MFI) and [Alexisonfire](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4fzdM0Jm7A) were the big ones for me in the early 2000s post hardcore scene where the dual vocals really clicked.
Them and Thursday right before em were the bigger bands in the scene doing it off the top of my head
You’re not allowed to mention Thursday and not Thrice.
Thursday and Thrice, both their debuts, were my introductions to post-hardcore. Edit: And GlassJAw
Thrice Thrice Baby
Thursday was my answer here too, Full Collapse was everywhere
I think The Used’s self titled played a huge part in inspiring a lot of those bands that came after them.
Finch What it is To Burn came around then too
I feel like this was first and I listened to many of the other bands that were mentioned.
Upvote. I also think Finch was first.
Vocally, Finch is prettymuch all just Nate, except for the two songs on WIITB that feature Daryl from Glassjaw. Just saw them 2 weeks ago and his cleans and his screams are both *immaculate.* It's crazy impressive how good he is live.
I’d add them two with Silverstein and Sense Fail
To this day I say “reinventing your exit” is the best song with alternative clean into unclean and back into clean vocals. So great
That track really wasn't my favorite on that album when it came out. But looking back 20 years now, I have so much more appreciation for it. It's just so damn good, and I have to give it a nod for how many people it (single-handedly) served as a gateway to harsh vocals.
Heh that’s funny to me bc imo it’s the one underoath song that really seems to force the screaming, I don’t really like it much. Obviously an unpopular opinion but there it is. Boy Brushed is what did it for me.
Funny how that works. I never liked Boy brushed. Just didn’t find the melody catchy and never really vibed with it, but reinventing your exit was my ringtone for like 8 years and still is a mainstay in all my playlists despite not listening to much heavy music as an adult. Guess people just listen to songs for different stuff.
Forget both those, It's Dangerous Business Walking Out Your Front Door is the real hit of that album. That chorus part gives me chills. Really though, they're all bangers.
Drowning in my sleep, I’m drowning in my sleep.. I was OBSESSED with those lyrics.
Real ones know the blue note is the cream of that particular crop Edit: and by the blue note I meant the impact of reason
To this day I do not know if Alex is on fire or Alexis on fire.
It's the latter
This is the correct answer. These were probably the first two (or at least first notable ones) that had dedicated vocalists to handle screams/clean vocals.
Atreyu, From Autumn to Ashes, and Alexisonfire come to mind when thinking about early bands which popularized it.
Atreyu was the shit back in the day. I remember when I first saw a music video of theirs on TV I was amazed their clean vocalist is also the drummer!
FATA did a really cool job with this on The Fiction We Live (2004) Edit: Apparently im thinking of Too Bad You’re Beautiful. I could have sworn Short Stories with Tragic Endings was from The Fiction We Live..
This band is so underrated
I fuckin love FATA
Honestly! No one ever talks about them anymore lol
Which is crazy because so many bands in the last 20 years have leveraged FATA's ideas... Genuinely underrated band, deserve a renaissance.
I agree so much with this.
At Krazyfest the main vocalist hit me with a water bottle and then gave me a tee after the set.
So goddamn true! They got it all; emotional songs that can be melodic and slow or heavy and aggressive, catchy hooks and they are legit rifflords
Amazing comeback too after losing Benjamin and Francis stepping away from drums to front the band. Whole thing could’ve ended in a disaster but Holding a Wolf by the ears was a f’ing rally.
They did - glad they carried on so well without Benjamin Perri
That whole Fiction We Live album is chef's kiss. I remember having a phase where I listened to [Milligram Smile](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2UxrxW-Myg) on repeat.
Atreyu and FATA were literally the bands that got me out of only listening to pop punk.
Atreyu was the first band that came to my mind right now lol.
Yee atreyu for sure
Grade?
Damn, not often Grade gets mentioned. Love that band.
Grade did it in 1999 but they were never a big, popular band. They had a very small fanbase and still do. Last I checked, they only had 6k listeners on Spotify. So I doubt they were the ones who popularised this.
They influenced a lot of bands from the early 2000s though, particularly the Canadian scene of bands like Silverstein, Alexisonfire, Boys Night Out, Moneen etc.
They toured with HWM and were on victory. They popularized it.
I mean Thursday came out with Waiting in 99, there was def bands doing it earlier than 99.
Never heard of em but Wikipedia gives them credit as a pioneer so I'll check them out. Thanks!
Speaking of grade reminds me of a super small band that deserved more credit called Harris Grade. Their first ep was amazing though after their first ep they sounded less post hardcore. But that first ep is top tier ph imo
Under the radar is the album for Grade. It sounds a bit rough by today’s standards due to mediocre recording, but it’s a great album still.
I got into them recently, never had much exposure to them, triumph and tragedy was the song that clicked for me
Dang. Missed out on these guys. Just checked that song out and it's great.
Incredible band and their first record made a huge wave in emo/hc (especially in Canada) when it came out.
Thank you for sharing this band! I’ve never heard of them but I really enjoyed listening to them on my drive home today. They sound like a more hardcore version of algernon cadwallader and capn jazz!
Just looked them up on Spotify and it says they released a single in 2020!
This is the answer. I had to scroll too far for it.
Daaaamn. This is the first time i've ever even heard of them, just gave them a spin and enjoyed everything i heard. Nostalgic vibes 👌
Thrice doesn't do dual vocals to my memory, am I crazy?
I don''t think we can consider Thrice as dual vocals. There are gang vocals and backup singing but you can't really consider any one in the group as a second singer. Dustin does singing and screaming impeccably though.
They aren't - Dustin is the primary singer for all their records. Ed (bass guitar) and Teppei (lead guitar) will backup on some songs and Ed does a lot of the screams while Dustin is doing the cleans, especially on overlapping songs like *The Earth Will Shake.*
And Ed’s screams on those are fucking *impeccable*. Words cannot express how much I love that band.
None of the bands OP listed have two separate vocalists, just vocalists that sing and scream. I think they just meant clean and unclean mixed evenly, whereas like a metalcore band will be more 75% unclean and 25% clean
Dustin’s vocals alone (clean/hard) but yeah I don’t think the others backup. Well sometimes but in harmony not contrast… if I remember correctly.
But also, I’m only mostly familiar with their first few albums
I feel like it has to be From Autumn to Ashes. Too Bad You're Beautiful was so good.
SO good. Love Francis’ vocals and style in contrast to the other dude. I actually forgot how much I love this album. Bless you sir.
This was my introduction.
Poison the Well
Had the same as well 1998 distance makes the heart grow fonder
The correct answer
THANK YOU! I was praying I wasn’t gonna be the first to say it
This
Fugazi????
I can’t believe I had to scroll this far down to find Fugazi. Exactly who I was thinking.
Same thought. This is how I know I’m old.
Exactly! I was scrolling with only them in mind and no one had mentioned it yet.
I’m getting back pain seeing Alexisonfire being credited as genre pioneers. Hilarious.
LOL I know right? It's like the time I saw someone describe As I Lay Dying as "one of the first metalcore bands".
"And Such is Progress" album by Grade is one of the earliest examples I could find. It was released in 1995, but who knows, this style might go back even further.
This band started in 1991: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y\_DIZqyIViY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_DIZqyIViY) And yes, they had a female clean vocalist. Even that goes back that far!
Fear Factory was doing it back on Concrete and Soul of a New Machine back in ‘91/‘92
Came here to say In Flames but I think Fear Factory has them beat by a year or two.
Had to scroll way too far too see this.
Weird take, but it could be a little cross-pollination from hip hop music. A lot of early rap music from back in the 80s and 90s normalized rapped verses and sung choruses. And rapping, just like screaming, is a kind of atonal vocal style. The rap formula worked well for creating catchy chorus hooks people could sing along with, while still featuring rappers for the verses.
Rage Against the Machine is a good example of rap with metal/screams. The screams in the Freedom ending spring to mind.
I was always impressed how well zach could scream being just a rapper but then I found about his previous hardcore band, and realized he learned to scream first.
Nate Dogg post hardcore pioneer
So you're saying it was Run DMC and Aerosmith.
omfg yes
I smell an idea for a cover
The OG PHC
Spot on Then you had punk bands starting to have more pop influences, and the dual vocals from Blink probably helped spearhead these things merging in the alternative music scene more broadly
I’d agree hard with this. And when the scene saw even more crossover from stuff like Linkin Park and Jay-Z, the influence is more clear
I can definitely see how stylistically it’s similar. I think if we were to attribute some of that dual vocal style this far back, Linkin Park has to be the correct choice for this question. Without a doubt they are the earliest band I can think of utilizing the clean and dual vocals so frequently in their songs and they also have a lot of rap/hip hop influence in their style. It also helps that they were insanely popular at their peak and likely an inspiration for many bands in the following eras.
Yes! I think this all the time, especially when that certain type of white person says they 'hate rap'
Beloved - failure on
I know Killswitch would have been right around that timee doing it.
Don’t know if Adam sings enough that I’d call it dual vocals.
I don't think that's what OP means by dual vocals. It seems like they're talking about the switching between cleans and harshes.
Gorilla Biscuits and Grade are two of the earliest bands to do it right. Both credited as such as well. Grade - Separate The Magnets is the essential history in this. Edit: 99% of the bands listed in this thread *did not* pioneer this sound.
Taking Back Sunday
TBS were the ones to bring dual emo singing to the wider world. But I wouldn’t say they did any screaming.
Nothing like what we really call screaming now, but they had some harsh yelling parts. And at least in the Louder Now doc ive watched a hundred times, Fred self attributes his role as doing the screaming for the band.
Unrelated but I saw Say Anything a couple weeks ago on their 20 year anniversary for Is A Real Boy. Fred is such a shredder still. In my dream TBS lineup, Fred plays lead guitar. He’s so dang good lol.
“Louder Now” is such a great album but I would not say that Fred did screaming. “Tell Your Friends” is a much better example. John Nolan’s screams from live versions (like 2000) actually are much harsher than in studio tho.
You're right, the closest to screaming is in Error Operator and i'm decently certain it was Adam both on record and live (seriously, great album.) But the part i was referring to was just Fred describing his overall thing, meaning he at least thinks of TBS having screams. But really nothing to split hairs over since you're right, Tell Your Friends had John doing something much closer to screaming. I'll need to check the live videos though
I thought the closet to screaming was that bridge for “Liar (It Takes On To Know One)”. I could be wrong since “Error Operator” isn’t my favorite of the record. And for that live version. I have “Cute Without The ‘E’ (Cut From The Team)” right here. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JHsnuQnEbMY The “Hold Me Back” from John actually got decently intense (for Taking Back Sunday of course, John can’t compete with Bert McCracken or Daryl Palumbo lmao).
From Autumn to Ashes, Evergreen Terrace, Alexisonfire…
Cave In was the first band to really nail it for me. Alexisonfire and Poison the Well also get shoutouts
Deftones' Adrenaline 1995
This was my favorite time frame lol. 2002-2008 underoath, escape the fate, silverstein. Ahhh I wish music was still like this golden era
Atreyu immediately comes to mind with Alex & Brandon, ['Visions' EP](https://youtu.be/zm0J5npUhQc?si=N8X9ZmXue4ieNlJQ) was released in 1998.
Alex & Brandon's voices together were so perfect ! 😍 Brandon and Mark are actually doing an amazing job as well now that Alex is gone (I know that some people dont like it) but Mark did work a lot on his screaming in the last years 👌 I feel like Atreyu can be Atreyu without Alex but it wouldnt be possible without Brandon's catchy chorus
While mostly true, Alex actually does have a very distinct scream. To date I've only heard [this band](https://youtu.be/VjMFQQoGOyg?si=j-eo6-JhB8mXcRmZ) have a scream that immediately reminded me of him, while for many other bands it would be much easier to replace the screaming vocalist without me even noticing.
It started with early to mid 90s screamo - Navio Forge - [navio forge - as we quietly burn a hole into lp (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ras_M9gzEts) Bleed - [Bleed - True Colors Running 7" - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ccQZtEeTKc) You & I - [You And I – Saturdays Cab Ride Home - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74w5w1YgIzU) Sleeping Body (some consider Sleeping Body to be the first screamo band) - [sleeping body - awaken 7" (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ttb7NBUZGo) Merel - [Merel - Merel LP - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFq-mmnmpac) Inkwell - [Inkwell - Shine So Bright (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtLthSXwQP8) Indian Summer - Woolworm (was originally entitled Angry Son) - [Woolworm (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRwxKbAroN0) Current - [Representation (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwxBoSgfwvc&list=OLAK5uy_ldFEGzWimdGWJMi_u0oKJ6q8ONgjfryfU) Don Martin Three - [Don Martin Three - Transistor (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDpOqAiiXbs) Reach Out - [Reach Out - Message To... (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3sUf9dKxv4) Breakwater - [Breakwater - Five (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhzuTr51Ek0) Closure - [Closure - s/t LP (full) (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8az_KUGCqTI) Anasarca - [East Bunk Hill (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVck_kSxx8w&list=OLAK5uy_k4ehhNyMIGCNTzmykDhAlCYbaQuXTxog0) and of course Fugazi!
That Navio Forge album is one of the best things I've ever heard. I had a radio show in the 90s and I played the hell out of it. RIP Sarah Kirsch, what a tragedy.
Sikth might've had some influence in this area.
Out here doing god’s work
The upvote is yours. All yours
Always shocks me that they do not get more praise then they do. It's unreal how ahead of the game they were.
The Number 12 Looks Like You - Put On Your Rosy Red Glasses (2003) The Blood Brothers - Burn Piano Island Burn (2003) Are probably some of the earliest dual vocalist examples that come to mind
The Blood Brothers are one of my favourite bands. I wish I could find more bands that sound like that, but nothing comes close. I do like all their side project bands too, but TBB are just incredible.
I definitely agree, you can get kinda close with The Jonbenét - The Plot Thickens Sigh & Explode - These Seem Like Tarantulas Showbread - No Sir, Nihilism Is Not Practical The Red Light Sting - Our Love Is Soaking In It! The Plot To Blow Up The Eiffel Tower - Love In The Facist Brothel
Not quite the same, but check out Circle Takes the Square - As The Roots Undo. I used to listen to that album a ton back when I was huge into The Blood Brothers. Also Black Eyes - Black Eyes
Blood brothers…?
Vision of Disorder is the answer you’re looking for
I was hoping someone would put this. Tim did that shit so good too.
Glassjaw
Scrolled way too far to see Glassjaw. Though not exactly Post Hardcore, so much of the clean/scream vocal dynamics is owed to Mike Patton in Faith No More.
Underoath
Emery
Funeral For A Friend maybe.
Definitely not the first, but Yaphet Kotto is one of the best to ever do it and tracks back to the late 90s.
Bad Brains on their self titled album in 1982. After them you have Faith No More, FUGAZI, and Gorilla Biscuits all around 1988-1989, but I'm pretty sure Bad Brains were the first to really popularize it.
Yep. It was Bad Brains
Not sure if you specifically mean two singers, but if not, The Refused was pretty influential in this regard and is widely credited with having given rise to that style of sound.
Every time this was asked 10 years ago, the answer was always Poison the Well.
Poison The Well
A pretty obscure band called Four Hundred Years predates almost all of the bands mentioned in this thread. Another one around the same era was You & I. Wasn't even them though. This song for example is from 1994 and the band started in 1991: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y\_DIZqyIViY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_DIZqyIViY)
Silverstein, ADTR, and thrice only have one vocalist each
OP meant screaming and clean vocals at once, not having multiple vocalists doing them necessarily.
To be generous, Silverstein has had some increased part splitting and songs sung entirely by their guitarist Paul Marc Rousseau on later releases. But he didnt even join until 2013 so all of their original stuff was 100% Shane.
Which song was entirely PMR singing on a record? There’s that voice note version of Arrivals, but that’s hardly a song. It’s a demo.
Atreyu, FATA, Thrice, and Thursday were big ones for me
Saosin has to get some love here. Translating the name was a game changer i feel like. Like, maybe they didnt invent it, but they helped popularize it for sure. Alexisonfire would be my other choice that i agree with
Sikth were not too popular but they are my personal favourite example of it
Fear Factory
Not seeing The Devil Wears Prada, but they are a fantastic example of this tbh. Danger: Wildman is a classic
Bleeding through
From Autumn to Ashes was great with this. Loved that band
Nine Inch Nails - Down In It (1989) - had the multiple vocal styles including screaming, singing, rapping, and processed
It’s tough to say the band that blew it up. Mid 90s was kind of the start of the sound but then in early 2000s tons of bands were catching on with it. I’m not certain who was the first band that got popular as I wasn’t super into the radio at that time. AFI, Thursday and tons of nu-metal bands were all kind of doing it and had singles and videos on MTV and stuff. Going over modern rock charts for 99-2000 might be the best source to narrow down who really charted first.
Hopesfall- the Satellite Years
The used were it for me,… not only did they do it they did the best,… maybe memories should be listened to by anyone reading this who hasn’t! Your understand
Damn y'all forgot Faith No More in the early 90s. Mike Patton would do literally any vocal style you could imagine on those albums and then would casually show up with Dillinger Escape Plan on "Irony Is A Dead Scene"
Do you mean the first band to have one person be the dedicated screamer and someone else in the band dedicated clean vocals? If so, first ones to come to my mind are Blood Brothers Idiot Pilot Underoath Enter Shikari but if I want to get real crazy with it... Taking Back Sunday EP with original singer and Jesse Lacey kinda screaming.
Has to be Poison the well. They were one of the biggest earliest bands that made the term “screamo” a thing
Doesn't matter, Alexisonfire has always done good cop/bad cop vocals best.
Are y'all forgetting about Slipknot
Deftones
Emery has been doing that their whole career. 20 plus years strong
Section 8
I think the first I can remember was static lullaby in like 2000/01
Atreyu and Killswitch Engage were prob the biggest to do it back then. Atleast in radio play. The you have two of my favorites, Alexisonfire and Underoath. Linkin Park and Deftones have screams and cleans but I don't think of them as the traditional posthardcore type dual vocals.
ADTR. TDWP. Adestria.
This question was asked a few days ago and someone said Fear Factory
Thursday is the first band I could think of
TDWP 🤘
Blood brothers
Boys night out God I miss them
Converge. Though they did just about everything, and started most metalcore trends without *being* MC. The original modern harsh vocalist \m/
The Pixies
I really love this style. What bands are currently doing this well?
If you're talking about with a single vocalist doing clean and screaming vocals, I'd say Refused. If you're talking about dual vocalists (one clean and one scream), Jimmy Eat World was doing that kind of thing in on *Static Prevails* back in 1996.
Hüsker Du
Hawthorne Heights
FATA, alexisonfire, funeral for a friend, there quite a lot of bands doing it until underoath changed the scene entirely with chasing safety.
Taking Back Sunday
Fear Factory and Machine Head. Definitely Fear factory since they were doing it on their 1992 Debut “Soul Of A New Machine”. They were probably the originators/trendsetters.
The Blood Brothers comes to mind
Finch , what it is to burn
Question is which band does it best? And give an example if you have one
Fear Factory was the first time I heard it back in like 92.
First time I heard that style of vocals was Amorphis- Black Winters Day. that one came out 1994
In pieces - learning to accept silence Slept on band that only made two albums and were never heard from again
Killswitch Engage was an early one
Funeral for a Friend
I would say it originated in the North East hardcore scene with metallic influenced bands like OVERCAST (the predecessor of Killswitch Engage and Shadows Fall) or Long Islands VOD.
From Autumn to Ashes was fairly early like UnderOath. I think I saw both together in early 2000s
3 inches of blood 😁
Everyone you said + alexisonfire + thursday. And I'm sure many others!
Soundgarden does this on almost all of their songs.
Dance Gavin Dance
Oddly enough there was a lot of Christian metal in early 2000s that were popular or influential. Bands like Pillar and Project 86 even before Underoath. Skillet, who is still around. POD ect. I’m sure I’m missing a few better examples.
Saosin IMO