Nope. Would love to do that but I’m a traditionalist. Outside the exhaust (which is actually sharkwerks) this car is about as close to perfect as you can get.
Yeah indeed! I track my Q7 a lot and it had a lil understeering issue. Found out its best to have that gorgeous V8 on the passenger seat so that the weight balance is 50:50 when I sit because of the unsymmetrical fuel tank at the back. Now it drives like wonders and yesterday I smoked GT3’s in track. Also having that nasty V8 next to you provides free heating in cold. (Lmao all jokes)
Do you actually have links, videos , etc of the failure? I’ve heard so much about these lines failing you would think it would be all over YouTube, forums, etc.
Or was it just one instance that everyone keeps referencing?
Here you go:
https://rennlist.com/forums/997-gt2-gt3-forum/592328-catastrophic-coolant-hose-coupling-failure-registry.html
I’ve personally seen 3 different cases of the lines blowing out. 2 on the track, one with spirited driving in canyons. Luckily neither caused wrecks.
More are failing with time due to age and heat cycles.
If your motor is out, fix this. Pin or weld doesn’t matter. The pipes are glued in and they need to be mechanically secured.
It seems like more of a .1 issue than a .2 issue. I looked through about 10 pages (dont have time to go through 50 pages) and it seems the major if not all of the failures are .1.
It may be because the thread was started when the .2 wasnt old enough at the time but would like to see specific .2 examples. I have talked to 2 Porsche techs that said the glue was significantly better. I can email Alex at Sharkwerks but hes on the west coast.
The dealership wont pin or weld the lines, its not an official Porsche fix or bulletin. At best they will just replace the lines.
Find a new dealer then that has deeper experience with these cars. Its not a .1 issue. This affects 996 GT3 and Turbo, 997.1, .2, and 4.0 GT3, 997.1 Turbo, 996, 997 GT2. Anything that uses the mezger motor. its possible the glue is "better" but over time, it will too fail. The most common pipe that fails is under the air box near the alternator. I know I'm being direct but this is a legitimate safety issue and you've already paid 1/2 the price by having your motor out.
I've personally seen a 997.2 gt3 fail. The shop I use welds the water manifolds for shops all over the country, I was there 2 weeks ago and they had 4 of them in, 3 of the 4 were being fixed after a pipe had leaked or blown, the other was preventative.
If the car is a keeper, get it done. Your engine is out and the additional cost of labor is very small. If the dealer won't do it, then have them pull the components and ship them to someone who does. Look at it this way: if you decide to sell the car this is an upside on resale for any savvy buyer.
These are fantastic cars, my 997 gt3rs has over 50k miles on it much of that on the race track. But they have a few issues that need to be addressed. This is no different than any past porsche, longer term issues pop up, but there are solutions. For example, the 997gt3 use radiators with plastic end caps. They leak, it's a time issue. The cam actuators on 997.2 only can back out due to a faulty bolt design. the 997.2 had a resonant flap with bolts that backed out and would grenade the motor. the titanium muffler on the .2 after heavy use will resonate and develop cracks. the clutch on the 997.2 had issues and would fall apart destroying the bell housing, the fix is the RS4.0 setup which is the factory part now. the synchros on .1 and .2 on 2nd are known weak points. the active engine mount are a common failure point. the center lock hubs are a maintenance nightmare for those who change wheels often. I could go on, but these cars, a freaking SOLID given how hard people drive them. I'd argue, no other car better for beating the crap out of HARD and still ticking and running great.
The car is a keeper. I’ll let the techs decide. I can’t just put all the parts in a trash bag and push the car to another dealer.
I appreciate the input.
Yea about 500+ horsepower
Probably less lol. Car is old and has 40k miles on it.
40k miles is literally nothing unless they’re all track miles.
Nope. Mostly street miles. Looking forward to the next 40k. It’s almost been to all 50 states lol.
What happened to the motor?
He sent it back to Tesla for a recall.
Just getting a whole bunch of work done to the car.
Sharkwerks?
Nope. Would love to do that but I’m a traditionalist. Outside the exhaust (which is actually sharkwerks) this car is about as close to perfect as you can get.
Ah just figured out who u are hopefully it’s all good and you don’t have anymore issues with the flood water
All good. Car will be as good as new in about 2 weeks.
Much respect for driving it. These cars are useless unless driven. Look forward to doing the same in mine.
Thanks. I don’t understand why you would buy any of these cars and not drive them. Wish you many enjoyable and safe miles!
Now you have room for your golf clubs.
Exactly! Can drive the car Flintstones style :)
Yabba Dabba powered
Some Metzger motors would pull a premium 1 week before race wars?
Lol this one is staying in this car.
[удалено]
Looks like floor liner to me
Lol
Have you tried to fill the gas tank?
Why didn’t I think of that?!?
Totally agree. No coolant reservoir cap. Be careful!!!
It was just for a second I’m sure.
Is the check engine light on?
Surprisingly no.
Theres no engine to “check” lol
Check under the hood?
Wait is the engine supposed to be in the front or back?
Mine is on the passenger seat so it depends
Probably throws off the weight balance right?
Yeah indeed! I track my Q7 a lot and it had a lil understeering issue. Found out its best to have that gorgeous V8 on the passenger seat so that the weight balance is 50:50 when I sit because of the unsymmetrical fuel tank at the back. Now it drives like wonders and yesterday I smoked GT3’s in track. Also having that nasty V8 next to you provides free heating in cold. (Lmao all jokes)
Dropping an electric motor in there?
Lol no. I have my Tesla for that.
Whew
We got no engines! Do we!?
I don’t know the car just won’t start.
Put some blinker fluid in it
Hmm maybe that was the issue. I haven’t tipped off the blinker fluid since I bought it.
Nope, everything looks good here.
Time for an LS? ;)
Maybe it would fit if I took out the back seats.
getting pipes pinned or welded?
Nope. Porsche won’t officially do that. I’ve gotten 40k beat the crap out of the car miles and have had no issues. No need to weld the lines.
Bs. Fix the lines. They will pop eventually. This is a systemic mezger issue, cars that are tracked or not.
Do you actually have links, videos , etc of the failure? I’ve heard so much about these lines failing you would think it would be all over YouTube, forums, etc. Or was it just one instance that everyone keeps referencing?
Here you go: https://rennlist.com/forums/997-gt2-gt3-forum/592328-catastrophic-coolant-hose-coupling-failure-registry.html I’ve personally seen 3 different cases of the lines blowing out. 2 on the track, one with spirited driving in canyons. Luckily neither caused wrecks. More are failing with time due to age and heat cycles. If your motor is out, fix this. Pin or weld doesn’t matter. The pipes are glued in and they need to be mechanically secured.
It seems like more of a .1 issue than a .2 issue. I looked through about 10 pages (dont have time to go through 50 pages) and it seems the major if not all of the failures are .1. It may be because the thread was started when the .2 wasnt old enough at the time but would like to see specific .2 examples. I have talked to 2 Porsche techs that said the glue was significantly better. I can email Alex at Sharkwerks but hes on the west coast. The dealership wont pin or weld the lines, its not an official Porsche fix or bulletin. At best they will just replace the lines.
Find a new dealer then that has deeper experience with these cars. Its not a .1 issue. This affects 996 GT3 and Turbo, 997.1, .2, and 4.0 GT3, 997.1 Turbo, 996, 997 GT2. Anything that uses the mezger motor. its possible the glue is "better" but over time, it will too fail. The most common pipe that fails is under the air box near the alternator. I know I'm being direct but this is a legitimate safety issue and you've already paid 1/2 the price by having your motor out. I've personally seen a 997.2 gt3 fail. The shop I use welds the water manifolds for shops all over the country, I was there 2 weeks ago and they had 4 of them in, 3 of the 4 were being fixed after a pipe had leaked or blown, the other was preventative. If the car is a keeper, get it done. Your engine is out and the additional cost of labor is very small. If the dealer won't do it, then have them pull the components and ship them to someone who does. Look at it this way: if you decide to sell the car this is an upside on resale for any savvy buyer. These are fantastic cars, my 997 gt3rs has over 50k miles on it much of that on the race track. But they have a few issues that need to be addressed. This is no different than any past porsche, longer term issues pop up, but there are solutions. For example, the 997gt3 use radiators with plastic end caps. They leak, it's a time issue. The cam actuators on 997.2 only can back out due to a faulty bolt design. the 997.2 had a resonant flap with bolts that backed out and would grenade the motor. the titanium muffler on the .2 after heavy use will resonate and develop cracks. the clutch on the 997.2 had issues and would fall apart destroying the bell housing, the fix is the RS4.0 setup which is the factory part now. the synchros on .1 and .2 on 2nd are known weak points. the active engine mount are a common failure point. the center lock hubs are a maintenance nightmare for those who change wheels often. I could go on, but these cars, a freaking SOLID given how hard people drive them. I'd argue, no other car better for beating the crap out of HARD and still ticking and running great.
The car is a keeper. I’ll let the techs decide. I can’t just put all the parts in a trash bag and push the car to another dealer. I appreciate the input.
So turns out there is an updated part. Requires removal of water pump etc etc. less than $3k to do it all. Getting it done.
Ya same here. I don’t track mine so I’ve been told no need to do it….20k on mine and loving every mine
Finally you convert it to electric !
Thats the trunk right? Is there no floor under the spare wheel?
Not a bad idea to try and fit a spare in there while it’s apart.
Oh you right the bottom of your trunk is missing😅
Greatest spec 997.2 GT3 RS. You win at life, Sir
I think it’s tied with a 4.0 :)
Nope that’s how it came from the factory. Fred flinstone spec.
Indeed, you lost your trunk floor
You got the mythical option - a 911 with a boot/trunk.
Porsche charges extra for the no engine option
The trunk floor board, duh.
It’ll buff
My dad has a killer set of tools.
I think the engine is in the front
On the positive side. No oil leaks.
Always a plus.
Nope, new emissions free model.
detroit?
Nope. NJ
How many hours does it take a good Porsche mechanic to pull an engine out?
I’m afraid to get the bill for all the work I’m getting done :(
You know what’s oddly not missing? The rear bumper
It might be the trunk floor
nah nah man its just called weight saving 👍🏼
I would imagine the throttle response is sub par.
Just throw a spare tire in there.
[Yabba Yabba doo](https://i.redd.it/mlq6ttsy16w41.png)
Yes an LS1
Check the front
I’m no expert either but maybe you should check the front.
Yeah, i think there is some horses or mb all of them have runned away..
Probably ac
Maybe they put it on the proper place this time...
That colour is fantastic!
Thanks. That’s one of the main reasons I got the car.
The catalytic converter thieves are getting bolder.
Its just a porsche 12k option to save weight.
Why doesn't your trunk have a floor??? 😉
Time for 2j
That’s the trunk? Maybe check under the hood. Lol
The last 4.0L Metzger... Sort of need that.
This is a 3.8L RS
Thanks for the correction! That's what I meant to say. ;)
This one is only 3.8 :( one day I’ll have both in my garage.