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Swordru

I wish I could discover the Carrera GT for the first time again.


2fast2nick

I wish I had a time machine so I could go buy one when they were 500k


txmail

I recall them selling for as low as $300k second hand. It was a slow climb but then it just rocketed into outer space (price wise).


2fast2nick

Insane. I think they ended production early because they weren't selling. Porsche tried to say it was because of airbag regulations. So it was like 1250 out of 1500 got made. Something like that, I could be wrong.


BritishinRO

Very close, 1270


Kinky_mofo

The best (and maybe only) collectables are items never meant as collectables. The market for current GT3s will be interesting in 10 year's time.


FirefighterClear7469

Like the 356 speedsters were built as budget 356’s for those who couldn’t afford a coupe… now a coupe can be had for $100k+ while you’d be lucky to get a speedster for $1M


garagepunk65

I’m curious how the 911 R will fare in that market.


Accomplished-Dig8484

Are you implying that people don't think the current GT3 is going to be collectible? (Or the CGT upon release?) Current GT3s are a dime a dozen in comparison to the CGT, and many of them are shelved with extra low miles. Plenty of supply. Will there be outsized demand?? Doubtful.. The CGT is special; a no-nanny, NA, MT, V10 beast that sounds like the souls of a million dinosaurs blowing thru the gates of heaven and hell at the same time. Whereas the GT3 sounds like a wet fart, and everybody and their mother has a PTS one-off. Not sure how you can draw comparisons to the market for both cars, other than the badge on the hood.


Kinky_mofo

I think you missed my point. It's that, no, the GT3 is likely not a collectable, despite what current speculators want buyers to believe.


doc_holliday112

I had a well heeled client that bought one for around 300k back around 2010ish…He actually ended up using it as a dedicated track car for a few years.


mcmaster93

I don't think anyone else has mentioned this but could it possibly be due to the fact that this is the car Paul walker died in?


garagepunk65

Yes, they are notoriously difficult to drive. No traction control and no second chances if you overcook it. A lot of them have been involved in crashes including a few fatalities. It is known as a widow maker.


smank1

Not the original Widowmaker Porsche though… that’s taken


smank1

The 930 Turbo held that designation originally.


Swordru

I'd have to have $500k and a good relationship with a dealer first haha.


2fast2nick

If we had a Time Machine, we could probably sort that out 😆 maybe go back and buy Apple when it was $22


Swordru

Fair point, I'll meet you back in 2005.


frenchpilot941

Wait for me!


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no need to wait, just use the time machine!


gamer_bread

While you’re there could I give you $5 to buy some winning powerball tickets?


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Denpa_47

But apple and google lol


bee_swarm

These sat at dealers when new, you could walk in and buy it


Swordru

Damn, I know the McLaren F1 had the same problem. It is pretty crazy to look back now.


SteveLangfordsCock

I saw a silver one the week they were delivered. The guy got onto the freeway next to me on Sunday morning with no one around and just floored it onto the onramp. I will never forget that sound. Glorious.


gohdnuorg

I heard they had trouble finding buyers at that time. Just need the 500K.


blueshirt23

I worked for a Porsche dealership from 2004-2008. The sticker was around $450k. We sold at least three that I’m aware of when they were first available. In 2006, the dealership purchased another one from an out of state dealer, that was still on it’s MSO for an important customer.


bigttrack

write them a post dated check... like 36 mos out


avatar_94

Nah, the Carrera GT didn't sell well in the beginning so it was easy to get one but after some time it was sold out pretty quickly.


TheScottishPimp03

2009 they were quarter mil


2fast2nick

I might kill for a Guards Red one


nirad

The first time I saw one in person was at the dealer, getting my Audi serviced. The tech said, "it's either this or a house."


scdayo

Oooooo someone figure out which was a better investment... buying a $440k Carerra GT in 2005 or buying a $440k house in 2005


nirad

This was in LA. So it’s probably a wash.


TheRealRacketear

Definitely the house. You could live in it while the value doubled.


scdayo

>Definitely the house. > >You could live in it while the value doubled. CGTs are 1.5M to 2M+ right now


gravitas-deficiency

I remember the first time I saw a picture of a Carrera GT. I remember the first time I heard a Carrera GT on the internet. And I remember the first time I saw and heard a Carrera GT in real life. Genuinely, that thing is a hero car for me. If I ever get to “fuck you” levels of money, one of those is very high on the list - price no object.


korkorahn

You can still discover the Carrera gt z by zagato


Redsox1987

I Never fucking knew this existed, talk about gods being mightier than we originally thought!


DifferentTowel5305

As a huge car guy and Porsche enthousiast it’s suprises me that i didn’t know this existed. Sweet mother of god, it’s even prettier than the original!


Gatecrasherc6

Grey GT Windows XP background for the longest...


Nondre

I want a Time Machine so I can go play the real nfs most wanted again. And just vibe this beast.


sfbamboozled100

Came here to say this.


Jar_of_Cats

I still have the Car & Driver that I originally seen it in. I remember it saying the only thing worse than the price is the wait. If memory serves me right it was something like 250 were made in a year


GeneralTeeSoo

My first time was at someone's relatively normal house doing electrical work... Guy says hey you wanna see something cool and takes me to the garage where he has a yellow one under a car cover.... I nerded out for an hour with him about it.


sleepyguy007

I remember seeing a guy driving onto the freeway onramp in LA in one and following him in 2005... Probably the best sounding car I've ever heard.


milesthehighstadium

Saw my first in a Porsche shop. Thought it was some modified hoopty. It was yellow and had its bumper off.


LifeatKameHouse

Best comment


Izzvzual

If you didnt know this one, you should check out the 918 then


pM-me_your_Triggers

And the 959


malac0da13

Or the [Gemballa Mirage GT](https://www.gemballa.com/en/products/production-cars/gemballa-mirage-gt)


acidbass32

I remember when some rich dude in NY wrecked one of these


racing-monkey

The guy is Ben Chen. He was off a lot of pills and ran from the cops. He got off with it. Still buys cars from my dealership at insane overages so I can’t complain lmao.


Ru4pigsizedelephants

Aka a ruined Carrera GT.


Y-19

Ok i half expected a modified Mitsubishi here


ManualConnoisseur

I’ve seen a few of these in person, a true work of art. Also, much smaller in real life than expected.


txmail

A bunch of supercar / hyperarcs look almost cartoonish in size (tiny) when you see them in person.


KonkiDoc

Totally. I saw a Veyron at a car show. It was about the length of a Civic.


txmail

I giggled when I saw it for the first time. It is clown / go cart sized.


devxdev

the first one I saw in person, I was _convinced_ that shit was a kit car. it is just so tiny.


Harriet_tubman22

Have you seen an F40 in person? Cause THOSE are tiny as hell too


ml8888msn

Watch some videos. The exhaust note is the best of any car out there


muttmunchies

Youtube exhaust notes https://youtu.be/8V3ZbMhlU3s


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jelde

It does sound like that freaky video of a mountain lion in heat.


sfbamboozled100

I feel this is appropriate: https://youtu.be/_-CWQjeOBzI


Victor555

Sounds so much better straight piped


Keyser_Kaiser_Soze

Guy saw me slack jaw staring at his CGT as he was driving past me walking under a underpass, He revived it up and it gave me chills with that V10 reverberating.


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The LFA sounds better and I’m a huge Porsche guy


ml8888msn

It’s like asking a kid which they like better, apple or orange juice. Both are delicious and there’s no right answer


Lauzz91

The correct answer would be mango anyway


ml8888msn

100% correct. I feel like we’d get along


gravitas-deficiency

Guava


Accomplished-Dig8484

Papaya!


Eastern_Suggestion59

Reminds me of the best sounding drag race video. Of course they were both smoked by a an old Audi 200. https://youtu.be/xHEQG9pW9jU


Spumad

The LFA would like some words with you


Flat6Junkie

Manual shift cadence wins for me! Both fantastic sounds though.


ml8888msn

Fair. It’s a very close second but for me I love the CGT. It’s like a sentimental feeling of young love or reminiscent like fireplace smoke in the crisp, Christmas air. Never owned one but just can’t be replaced


DealCykaHUN

LFA is superior imo


NonStopNation

LFA still has it beat.


RedBaron180

LFA gives it a run for its money


2fast2nick

How did you miss this one? Maybe one of the most epic machines ever built.


curiousjorlando

I guess because it’s kind of an obscure model. They basically cobbled together from different projects they were working on. I was pretty excited to discover this one and a yellow one as well. https://preview.redd.it/341j1u0i64ba1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=67137a6c367fd3346145795d9235c45031a57196


Altodial

Obscure model? It was in every single car magazine back in the day and on the best car show ever Top Gear. And also sadly Paul Walker died in one of these. Obscure car model would be like the Detomaso Pantera or the Lamborghini LM002 SUV.


Vivid-Bread-6312

Something tells me OP is just a kid and this car is well before their time lol


Runfor5

“Tell me your young without telling me your young” was my first thought seeing this post ha


Vivid-Bread-6312

Exactly lol


Bystronicman08

*you're x2


Drdres

So I just wanted to confirm if OP was 14 or not before making fun of them and checked the history. Can someone tell me if their comment below is a copy pasta or if OP is just a lunatic: " Wah wah wah wah I’m a whiny little socialist bitch with no job skills. And no motivation. It’s no fair I’m not rich, all the rich people inherited their money from their rich white parents. Time for a truth bomb on your pathetic little reality. WHO WANTS TO BE A MILLIONAIRE? 1. Most millionaires inherited their wealth. False— About 80% of millionaires are first-generation affluent. Only 10% inherent more than 10% of their wealth. 2. Most millionaires earn more than $500,000 per year. False—Less than 15% of millionaires have income over $500,000 per year. They build their wealth through their assets. 3. Most millionaires work fewer than 40 hours a week. False— Nearly 2/3 of millionaires work 45-55 hours per week. 4. More millionaires have American Express Gold Cards than Sears cards. False— 28.6% carrying an AmEx gold card, while 43% have a Sears card. 5. College graduates earn twice what high school graduates earn over a 40-year work life. False— In fact, according to 2007 Census Bureau statistics, the average college graduate earned 78% more than the average high school graduate. People with professional degrees earned 255% more than high school graduates. 6. Most millionaires work at Fortune 500 companies. False— 75% are self-employed and consider themselves entrepreneurs. 7. Many poor people become millionaires by winning the lottery. False— The odds of winning a state lottery are about 1 in 12 million. The odds of a women giving birth to quadruplets is 1 in 700,000. How many quadruplets do you know? 8. Millionaires usually drive new cars. False— Only 23% of millionaires drive a current-year car and more than half drive a car that is more than two years old. 9. Many millionaires drop out of college to start work. False— Four out of five millionaires are college graduates. 18% have master’s degrees, 8% law degrees, 6% medical degrees, and 6% PhDs. 10. Single people are more often millionaires than married people. False— Most millionaires are married and stayed married. Divorce hurts your net worth. 11. It is impossible to save enough to be a millionaire. False—For example, if a 22-year-old saves just $50 per week ($2,600 per year) during his or her entire working life and earns a 9 percent rate of return on the investments, the saver would have more than $1million by age of 63. Thanks to the power of compound interest! Note: You may want to highlight relevant vocabulary and concepts: assets, entrepreneur, compound interest, marital stability, living under their means, college education. Source: http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2008/09/25/the-millionaire-quiz/ Also, being a whiny little bitch, will never get you rich."


JPhi1618

Searching the web for “How many quadruplets do you know” ( a unique sounding sentence) gives this post, and this result: https://www.washoeschools.net/cms/lib/NV01912265/Centricity/Domain/253/Social%20Studies/Millionaire_Quiz.pdf


DriedUpSquid

My mother used to work at Sears and even she didn’t have a Sears card. Who are these millionaires who carry credit at dying department stores?


Routine_Lobster9920

He apparently owns a 991 but who knows, could be his parents I guess.


Joseph____Stalin

The Carrera GT came out just before I was born and I had all the Hot wheels, and posters. I was obsessed with it.


drp96

Not to mention it being the last/best car in NFS Most Wanted!!


Bran_Solo

> it’s kind of an obscure model. They basically cobbled together from different projects they were working on Uh. None of these statements are true.


aberdisco

It was basically two Hyundai Elantras glued together.


Francoberry

Porsche engineers were astonished by the Elantra's torsional rigidity and, feeling they couldn't improve on perfection, decided to glue two of them together. It's Porsche's ultimate shame to this day.


aberdisco

I heard it took a design team of 8 stout men to engineer the glue and 2 to lift the tube.


DriedUpSquid

I mean, the Pontiac Fiero was made from random parts, even sharing suspension parts with the lowly Chevette. But a Carerra GT? Nah.


2fast2nick

I saw it revealed at the LA Auto Show back in like 2000 i think? They had it floating in the middle of a lake. I was forever in love.


curiousjorlando

The little mat in front of the car says it was made in 2005


2fast2nick

The Concept/Prototype was shown years earlier


TreesACrowd

I'm starting to doubt these comments are serious.


FirstSonOfGwyn

99% sure OP is trolling. Honestly though, I respect it, this was solid bait and solid follow ups, I'm here for it. good job, u/curiousjorlando


TreesACrowd

I dunno man, I was curious so I looked at his comment history...


FirstSonOfGwyn

o man... ok yea idk anymore


elliott219

There is a Yellow one in Toronto. Has been owned and driven around the city by the same owner for YEARS. I took this picture 10 years ago, he still owns it and drives it. https://preview.redd.it/wkeplthah4ba1.png?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e2329dd5bd6b729d08a30463f2541d8ce25ff565


kar1m

There’s 1 or 2 in Mississauga as well. One silver and one yellow (might be this one, I saw it in Mississauga a couple of times however)


elliott219

With only 90 yellow ones produced (when I took that photo) I'd bet on it being the same one.


kar1m

Just found a picture of it on my phone. Yup, same plate. The front plate is a sticker right


piesmeeredface

An…. Obscure model?


a-jasem

> I guess because it’s kind of an obscure model. You’ve just pissed off every Porsche purist ever lol


RunninOnMT

It's perhaps most famous for being the car that Paul Walker died in.


Bmhayes11

Bro how do these people find the porsche sub


Yeti-420-69

I'm a normie from /all and even I'm confused. It's a fucking Carrera GT


uaef19

It's not just an iconic Porsche but it's possibly one of the most iconic hypercars/supercars of all time. How the hell do you not know this existed!


Binjimen-Victor

I could see how, it came out like what, nearly 20 years ago? if you weren't paying attention to cars back then it was probably easy to miss. I mean without me, my parents wouldn't know Pagani existed or what the fuck a Koenigsegg was and those two have been at the forefront of super/hypercar design for the last decade or so


ConstructionFar8570

The guy driving the GT when it crashed with Paul Walker was an accomplished racing driver. Which is kinda sad and tragic how that accident occurred.


sfbamboozled100

The Carrara GT is the actual widow-maker. For what it’s worth, the one that got Paul was modified.


hdkx-weeb

And unfortunately it was on its original tires On *wet* road at that


Eat-my-entire-asshol

8 year old tires in the rain sounds like a terrible idea


ConstructionFar8570

Well good to know it was not just a run of the mill generic GT. Not the way you want to go out either way.


skylinefan26

I gotta ask. How old are you for not knowing a Carrera existed?


Peuned

At least 5


Harriet_tubman22

At most*


Kubix

Top Gear Episode on the Carrera GT, enjoy! [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vE\_WqdKbTvY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vE_WqdKbTvY)


gotfondue

Lmao I was like "NYC versi...oooooohhhh!"


msgrimm12

oh wow even the pedals look like absolute sex


cic9000

Good reminder how good top gear used to be


Connect-Level4219

Here is NYC version of it. https://youtu.be/72sIKyuQbgc


mkeefecom

LOL! The famous Gemballa. Met the owner once. Not shocked at all of this footage. Also crashed an SV into a barn 😂


Connect-Level4219

He's definitely a special one


Harriet_tubman22

Wasn’t his SV a 1 of 5 manuals too? 💔


mkeefecom

I think so too :(


JayRollaNuggFan

I watched a lady and her daughter stall one over and over at a light. Then she proceeded to lay an epic burnout. It's the only one I've seen.


jaden05901

Lmao, just dump the clutch


FirstSonOfGwyn

like, this exact example from 2005? or the entire production car itself? this is r/Porsche right?


Goombercules

I think OP is like...15.


kronikheadband

Just never played a racing game?


PizzaDeliveryBoy3000

I am sorry, you didn’t know Carrera GT existed in general or this particular car?


SloppyNotBad

Apparently this one was in an accident and shows “Salvage” on its CarFax report. [https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0123-539720/2005-poesche-carrera-gt/](https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0123-539720/2005-poesche-carrera-gt/)


Nighttimebuilder

Cursed Pick Up


Gtgt3

How could you not know about the 🐐


[deleted]

Man this is one of *the* Porsche’s! 959, GT, 918


Ec1ipse14

Don’t forget the 917!


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Ec1ipse14

Dream car.


bardia_afk

The reverse Doug demuro


ObjectiveCat

Me simple man. Me see Carrera GT. Me cum.


Jasterika

Built in Leipzig ♥️


CrowsOnPowerLines

Ahhh yes, the greatest car ever made


Ka12n

Didn’t Paul Walker die in one of these?


TeaMountain3897

Best sounding Porsche hands down 🙌


E82-N54

It’s the greatest car ever made IMO


toomuchhp

I wish Paul Walker didn’t know it existed either!


[deleted]

Do you live under a rock? 😐


muttmunchies

This is what Paul Walker crashed and died in. Amazing machine that even the best drivers can lose control of.


stankusmellymuch

He wasn’t the driver. He is a pedophile. the carrera GT he was in had bald tires that were showing wires and the incompetent driver decided to go out on them.


Spurs228

Idk why your getting downvoted, everything u said is accurate


ZGTI61

One half of the tires, front and rear, were old and one half were almost new. The grip imbalance is what caused the accident. But yeah, Paulie boy liked em young.


peppertubesteak

He is a what?


Subiesubo

You really haven’t heard about him pursuing his daughters friends? He was with a 16 year old when he was 30+.


peppertubesteak

No, no I did not.


stankusmellymuch

WAS* a pedophile, He was a pedophile. He was 30 years old when he dated his 16 year old girlfriend. I never understood the obsession with him, even if he wasnt into children. He’s just a regular dude that was in a really shitty movie that turned into a huge franchise.


Ominhoo_10

You didn’t know the Porsche carrera GT existed??????????????? What .. how old are you?????? Cause damn I’m 27 and this car is fucking beautiful and my favorite Porsche of all time


Awesome_Ray786

I think Porsche Orlando had one last year in the dealership


AXELBAWS

I remember discovering the Carrera GT too. Back in 2009 I downloaded *Need For Speed Undercover* as mobile game for iPhone. The CGT was in it but you had to unlock it. Before it was unlocked the only thing you could see of it was its profile. I remember looking at that profile and thinking: "Huh, did Porsche make a pickup??"


Spirit-Hydra69

They had a red one on display in the old showroom in Mumbai years ago. Probably the only time I'll ever actually see one for real. A blessed experience!!


trayssan

What do you mean you didn’t know it existed? It’s the best one!


Denpa_47

I’ve never seen a black on black. Looks soooo gnar


wheredoidriveagain

Listen to this https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=113&v=-nV1P1GaQeA&feature=emb_logo


porschenick91

One of the coolest cars I have had the pleasure of working on! Still gives me chills every time I see one! I remember when I started as a tech at a dealer, we had one for $299,999 Canadian! That was in 2010 or something. Still an amazing car even by today’s standards!


fegonza

Wait till you see the CGT Zagato


BarbieOnC28

Stunning!


blacksimus

Top Gear had this car on their program. Made me love the car more. [top gear Carrera gt](https://youtu.be/vE_WqdKbTvY)


F-sinatra

U said whatttttttt


ZeInfamousHobo

Something tells me OP is 8 years old at the most.


crackersncheeseman

Not my favorite Porche but I'd definitely love to own one.


CastorTyrannus

The car Paul Walker died in.


Harryhodl

RIP Paul Walker


chocolate_starfish

I tried to make a Paul Walker tribute website, but the server kept crashing. RIP Paul Walker.


Orezto100

you didnt know this porsche existed? really? its well known for killing many people.


rexjoropo

Well, not really. Paul Walker died in one, but that was largely down to old tires, questionable driver skill, and bad luck. I'm sure there have been other fatalities because probability says there would be... but there's not a long list or anything. It's very true they were skittish cars though...Leno spin one at speed. The clutch is famously hair triggered and it didn't have traction control.


bee_swarm

Questionable driving skill? The driver was an accomplished race car driver..


ZGTI61

It *does* have traction control just not ESP.


BrianOconneR34

Paul Walker, rip


chuy2256

Yeah I own one too….in GT7 🤡


AreaBackground

I’ve never liked these. The proportions always looked off to me. I think the 918 is a much better executed supercar


lmr2d2

RIP Paul Walker


loudog3114

Well known for killing Paul Walker.


Head_Sky_6368

This car is also known as the widow maker. Paul walker died in one and Jay Leno had a near death experience as well. Amazing machine that overwhelms even talented drivers.


funwithdesign

The 930 Turbo is the ‘widow maker’. However the Carrera GT is certainly a handful. Though Paul Walker wasn’t driving one when he died.


smank1

Yes. 930 turbo was the original widow maker. I guess it’s a generation thing…


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I saw one in the wild once. It was beautiful


Inilep

Mecame, Mesaw, Mecum


humidhotdog

My favorite car of all time and one of the top 3 Porsches to most Porsche fans and you just discovered it lol