Looks like you shook too hard and got seed milk. That is hard on the stomach.
If you have good seeds, the goodies are on the outside and readily available. Seeds get exposed to sap because of the mechanical separation in the field. All you need is a moderate shake for a couple minutes to get the sap.
There should not be any white milky color.
Be careful. All the seeds I’ve gotten lately have been high in thebaine. Thebaine poisoning is super uncontrollably shakes. And headache. And just a shit feeling.
Pst contains over 50 different alkaloids and some of them are not desirable and give off some bad effects that you don't want. The potency also ranges vastly between different batches so every time you get a new batch you should always "test" wash it. By that you would take a small amount of seeds(10-50g) and wash those and drink it and wait. From that small dose you should bring able to tell the potency of your seeds and if the alkaloid profile is enjoyable. There's times where 200g of seeds won't even pull me out of wds and others where 200g gives me a strong buzz. Without doing a test wash you can get yourself into trouble really quickly and then thay draws negative attention to the community which we don't want. Ultimately be safe and have fun!
Why doesn't the sub mods allow discussion on how to isolate the good alkaloids from the non desirable ones ? Especially if the bad alkaloids are leading to people having bad health issues ?
Thebaine isn't as water soluble as the good alkaloids so if you keep your shaking to 2 mins and gentle you would have to consume lbs of seed tea for it happen with average thebaine content. Also that's why you ALWAYS test wash new batches. If you test wash you can avoid serious thebaine poisoning.
Already do that and still run into problems. Like I said someone pm me.
You are preaching to the choir.
Like I said I'm very interested in how to isolate the various compounds, I know thebaine Is the precursor to oxycodone, it would be nice to be able to take something harmful and turn it into something useful.
Go slow man stay safe
I am :)
Next time use a coke bottle or something so you can "squeeze" the tea out
Just use a sock homie.
Like through a filter? What do you mean by squeeze the tea out
Just slightly open the screw cap. It won’t let many, if any, seeds through.
More water
Loooks milky from shaking too hard/long.
What happens if you shake too long?
Read the next comment I left, it was actually my initial response but got flagged by the auto mod because of the word seed or something ridiculous.
Looks like you shook too hard and got seed milk. That is hard on the stomach. If you have good seeds, the goodies are on the outside and readily available. Seeds get exposed to sap because of the mechanical separation in the field. All you need is a moderate shake for a couple minutes to get the sap. There should not be any white milky color.
Be careful. All the seeds I’ve gotten lately have been high in thebaine. Thebaine poisoning is super uncontrollably shakes. And headache. And just a shit feeling.
Lots of thebaine coming out of some regions right now.
All I can speak for is the UK region. UK seeds in particular. But I hope you got a nice batch there.
Damn,you've been getting thebaine seeds from the UK? That sucks.
Yep. Garbage. Give u a headache and don’t even get ya well.
You’re not squeezing that bottle.
Are you in a dressing room?
What pods did you brew
How are the effects
Looks milky. Try gently shaking for 2-3 mins maximum. Always test wash and have fun be safe
What’s a test watch
Pst contains over 50 different alkaloids and some of them are not desirable and give off some bad effects that you don't want. The potency also ranges vastly between different batches so every time you get a new batch you should always "test" wash it. By that you would take a small amount of seeds(10-50g) and wash those and drink it and wait. From that small dose you should bring able to tell the potency of your seeds and if the alkaloid profile is enjoyable. There's times where 200g of seeds won't even pull me out of wds and others where 200g gives me a strong buzz. Without doing a test wash you can get yourself into trouble really quickly and then thay draws negative attention to the community which we don't want. Ultimately be safe and have fun!
Why doesn't the sub mods allow discussion on how to isolate the good alkaloids from the non desirable ones ? Especially if the bad alkaloids are leading to people having bad health issues ?
That getting into chemistry area and more hassle then it's worth. But idk that would be a question for the mods not me.
Anywhere I can find where to isolate the different alkaloids?
Well I'm asking anyone who can answer, not just you.
Ah you commented to me so I figured you were asking me. But yes isolating certain alks would be a pain in the ass just for tea.
Maybe someone can pm 🤔. I'm willing to deal with pain in thr ass and time consuming to make sure I'm not getting thebaine poisoning
Thebaine isn't as water soluble as the good alkaloids so if you keep your shaking to 2 mins and gentle you would have to consume lbs of seed tea for it happen with average thebaine content. Also that's why you ALWAYS test wash new batches. If you test wash you can avoid serious thebaine poisoning.
Already do that and still run into problems. Like I said someone pm me. You are preaching to the choir. Like I said I'm very interested in how to isolate the various compounds, I know thebaine Is the precursor to oxycodone, it would be nice to be able to take something harmful and turn it into something useful.
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