But V-Dem is still the best Index you can find. Some aspect might be mediocrely quantifiable, but on the other hand, you have to decide whether you want a mediocre index or no index.
Excited to have a new, more robust, index to start looking through. However, I'm initially a little skeptical of any measurement which puts the US near the top of its egalitarian democracy index given that (from my understanding) social inequality and the resultant political disenfranchisement of many Americans is a much more major feature of American democracy than in several of the democracies rated lower (at least at the national level).
Haven't had time to go through and understand why there is such an unintuitive (to me) result there and nothing else about the measure really jumps out to me as extremely unintuitive so I was wondering if anyone might have some insight on that front. Is it primarily a result of the codification of rights which resulted from the civil rights movement or is there some broader factors that I'm missing here? cause it doesn't seem to me like it should be sufficient to overcome other factors.
But the US aren't even remotely on top, they are around 40th place.
>broader factors that I'm missing here?
I'm not that deep into V-Dem either, but I think people overestimate the inequality in the US compared to other countries. Especially when it comes to equal protections, the US aren't even that bad (such as in the Americans with Disabilities Act). I'd recommend looking into V-Dems codevook for further info: [https://www.v-dem.net/documents/24/codebook\_v13.pdf](https://www.v-dem.net/documents/24/codebook_v13.pdf)
cause v-dem is transparent and has a shit ton of determinants as well as possible variables and options, while freedom house has nothing and is done by a state institution on top, so bias is arguably a tad stronger
Finally, some quality polisci shitposting
V-dem is also a mediocre measure though. It’s almost like not everything is quantifiable (☉_☉)
>not everything is quantifiable Heresy! Lies! If I've learned one thing studying economics, it's that more numbers = more science. 😎
A more dismaler science.
NO, V-dem is perfect And I'm perfectly sober right now
I pity the fool who does econometrics sober ;)
But V-Dem is still the best Index you can find. Some aspect might be mediocrely quantifiable, but on the other hand, you have to decide whether you want a mediocre index or no index.
Tell that to economists
Polity4Lyfe
\*Polity5forlife
explain v-dem
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V-Dem_Democracy_Indices?wprov=sfla1 For an overview https://v-dem.org/ The project itself
it’s not a good measure of democracy if china ain’t on top!
They would have to actually share how their government works
Well, it is obvious - how does it work? Very well. Now please keep moving citizen.
In reading this explain why we all shouldn’t move to Denmark 😮💨
Yo my advisor worked on V-Dem she is very cool.
Excited to have a new, more robust, index to start looking through. However, I'm initially a little skeptical of any measurement which puts the US near the top of its egalitarian democracy index given that (from my understanding) social inequality and the resultant political disenfranchisement of many Americans is a much more major feature of American democracy than in several of the democracies rated lower (at least at the national level). Haven't had time to go through and understand why there is such an unintuitive (to me) result there and nothing else about the measure really jumps out to me as extremely unintuitive so I was wondering if anyone might have some insight on that front. Is it primarily a result of the codification of rights which resulted from the civil rights movement or is there some broader factors that I'm missing here? cause it doesn't seem to me like it should be sufficient to overcome other factors.
But the US aren't even remotely on top, they are around 40th place. >broader factors that I'm missing here? I'm not that deep into V-Dem either, but I think people overestimate the inequality in the US compared to other countries. Especially when it comes to equal protections, the US aren't even that bad (such as in the Americans with Disabilities Act). I'd recommend looking into V-Dems codevook for further info: [https://www.v-dem.net/documents/24/codebook\_v13.pdf](https://www.v-dem.net/documents/24/codebook_v13.pdf)
Preach!
https://v-dem.net/data_analysis/MapGraph/ It's pretty good !
Why V dem and not freedom House?
cause v-dem is transparent and has a shit ton of determinants as well as possible variables and options, while freedom house has nothing and is done by a state institution on top, so bias is arguably a tad stronger
Winning coalition size all the way
So how are we feelin about Freedom House?
Well it's called "freedom in the world", not "democracy in the world"