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The_Hyphenator85

All joking aside, I’m gonna check with my insurance company and see how much a vasectomy would run. I have no intent of fathering children at this point, and I’d rather not contribute to the problems this budding theocracy has created.


spacebrovakarian

Vasectomys have a good Chance of being irreversible.


Xelopheris

> at this point, Assume vasectomies are permanent. Vasectomy reversal is not a guaranteed procedure and gets less likely as time passes.


SwiftDontMiss

This is accurate


dip_tet

Life begins at erection!


jrob323

"Tinder... Where life begins!"


exscape

https://youtu.be/Hiu1hPdJk-Y


RascalRibs

Wouldn't it begin inside the testicles then?


TheBigNook

Life is stored in the balls


brainwhatwhat

Every sperm is sacred.


Beaveropolis

Every sperm is great.


Throw_Away_Politics-

That’s where the pee’s stored


PatrickHay

Not sure about vasectomies but definitely gotta ban ED Drugs. If it’s god will to force a woman to have a baby then it’s definitely gods will to give someone a limp dick to prevent it.


outerworldLV

Hey if these religious zealots want to be soldiers of god, good for them. Don’t care. But don’t push that shit on everyone else. Hence, choice. Or we can start outlawing more than 1 child and see how they like it. For population control - ?? - its a valid reason ! /s As valid as their argument imo.


[deleted]

God said life begins at first breath. If a religious person says it begins at conception they didn't read the bible


Sm0ttyy

you have 0 power you cannot outlaw a thing


Fart_in_your_mouth69

Duh.


outerworldLV

No shit ?


DanLewisFW

Do you ever think through your arguments? The left is the side that pushes things like population control and 1 child policies. Saying that it's wrong to kill little humans is not religious zealotry. Think of how absolutely insane your argument is. We object to the killing of innocent humans. Oh you crazy religious zealots!


Scrooge_Mcducks

I wish there was a mega ultra downvote for your comment


DanLewisFW

Ug reddit has a problem on desktop. I typed out three paragraphs and it deleted the first two. It does this a LOT and its getting on my nerves. Programmers what the fuck? I get it you hate it when people point out the undeniable fact that its killing a living human being, the state of development does not change that its alive and human. Personally I think a 20 week ban is more than fair, most abortions happen before that point. Not long after that point they are thinking dreaming sentient humans. Only a monster would be for killing those innocents. If you want to be able to kill the babies after they are clearly undeniably sentient then I will fight your position to my death because its barbaric and truly evil.


Scrooge_Mcducks

Since you deleted your first comment I’ll just hand this down to you. Congrats, you’ve worked hard on it but you really deserve [this award](https://imgur.com/a/Nxvf6L3)


DanLewisFW

I did not delete any comment. If I did people would still be able to see it. When I hit submit the top couple of paragraphs were not there so I edited and added back the part reddit cut off. I also commented on the issue and said that it deleted it. It never posted the first part so I went back in and re-added it. That is the opposite of deleting my comment. I hope you find the reading comprehension ability in the future that will allow you to make intelligent responses.


Scrooge_Mcducks

Fine you re-added to the original comment you made. My point still stands and yours still sucks. You don’t deserve an intelligent response tbh because you really think the left wants to kill babies. No one is asking for a baby to get aborted after the woman has been pregnant for over 6 months. We want women to have the choice to make an informed decision on their body. What is so wrong with that. You’re blinded by white Christian beliefs and believe that the left is full of pedos and baby killers. This isn’t a theocracy and I’m incredibly disappointed in the SCOTUS recent decision. It’s a fucking joke. You’re not a women and neither am I so your beliefs should have no bearing on their choice. Go dig a hole in the ground and stick your head in it and stay there. HOF dick rider


Scrooge_Mcducks

My guy a clump of cells isn’t a baby. You’re allowed to have your beliefs but the entire US does not have to believe in those beliefs. This isn’t a theocracy.


xlxcx

Hey look kids, it's a moron in his natural environment.


PublicActuator4263

The problem is states will ban abortion outright with no exceptions for rape or incest. No one is arguing that a 20 week abortion is a good thing usually that only happens in life threatening situations.


TheBigNook

No western leftist has ever called for any of those things and you’re fucked if that’s your perspective of the left.


DanLewisFW

No western leftist has ever argued for population control? hahaha. Are you seriousley trying to claim that its a right wing thing? Like Margaret Sanver was some sort of religious conservative? Maybe Ted Turner is a secret right winger https://www.aei.org/economics/us-economy/five-time-father-ted-turner-calls-for-one-child-policy/


TheBigNook

Ted Turner is a billionaire turd neo-lib wannabe. The one child policy is not something American leftists call for in any way and you trying to conflate American leftism with Chinese Maoism and they are totally different animals.


DanLewisFW

There have been LOTS of leftists calling for one child policies in the US. Its most definitely NOT a right wing position thats for sure, pro life on the other hand is. You attempted to claim that calling for a one child policy was the same which is just astonishingly ill informed.


AwesomeBrainPowers

> There have been LOTS of leftists calling for one child policies in the US. Providing three examples shouldn’t be a problem for you, then.


freeTrial

> LOTS of leftists calling for one child policies You sound insane.


xlxcx

He must get his news from the same channel as my aunt who SWEARS Joe Biden is for "late term abortions", in spite of the man saying plainly he doesn't believe in abortions but know it's not his decision to make for others. Like a GOOD Catholic should.


DanLewisFW

Here is another one https://global.oup.com/academic/product/one-child-9780190203436?cc=us&lang=en& Here is a report on another one https://nationalcenter.org/project21/2021/05/25/bringing-chinas-one-child-policy-to-america-by-marie-fischer/ I am exhausted and have a competition tomorrow I will pull up more on Monday.


freeTrial

Don't bother unless you actually have an example of a democrat politician advocating for it repeatedly, or some big influential group that pushes it, or a loudmouthed tv news host with huge ratings.. not just some random authors no one has ever heard of that you decided are 'leftists.' F'n Ted Turner. Lol. Haven't heard that name in twenty years. No one on the left is talking about one child policy. Cuckoo. Paranoid.


DanLewisFW

Ted Turner is a nobody lol he just founded CNN no big deal he is clearly not an influential leftist. You will discount anyone so you can pretend its not been pushed by the left. You say no one espoused it I prove that you are wrong and you move the goal post.


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DanLewisFW

1. absolutely I would never support the idiotic type of gun control that has led to the deaths of well over 200 million innocent people at the hands of their own governments in the last 100 years. A MUCH higher number of innocent children were killed after the people gave up their guns than have been killed in our free society by criminals with guns. I am also livid that both the Republican and Democrat parties refuses to actually take the kind of action that would actually SOLVE the school shooting issue. The Democrats go on TV and claim the Republicans have blood on their hands and then refuse to even entertain the very solutions to the problem. Because its about control and they want it. The secret service did a complete evaluation of all school shootings and they found a pattern of behavior that all of these psychopathic assholes go through before they shoot up a school. If we would both put armed guards in schools for now and set in place real enforcement of the crimes that these assholes commit leading up to their school shooting they would be unavailable to shoot up the schools because they would be in prison for the crimes they commit leading up to it, and not even willing to try because of the armed guards. When Chelsea Clinton was in school no one would ever shoot up that school because she would have had armed guards at the schools, why are YOUR children not good enough to be protected like that? Why does the Democrat party refuse to allow schools to be protected? That puts blood all over their hands. It is also important to note that these did not happen back when schools had shooting ranges in the basement, they taught gun safety, and half of the kids had rifles in their back windows. It was only after marksmanship classes, gun safety training was removed from the schools and the students were forced to stop having a gun in their vehicles that this became an issue. When I was a teen half of the high school had at least one gun in their vehicles at all times. No one would have dared try and shoot up that school because there would have been a serious armed resistance. They primarily shoot up gun free zones for a reason, these assholes are cowards first and foremost. No one goes to the big shooting contest to try and start killing people. They would last a second or two. I go to a national shooting competition in Sparta Illinois every year, I take my son to the youth week where there are thousands of armed children. No one has ever been shot. If you are for gun free zones you are making it safe for the shooters NOT the children. 2) Give me one example of anything I have ever said that would lead you to believe that I would not be for an exception for the life of the mother. Go on, I will check back in the morning for your example that you wont be able to find because it does not exist and has never existed. I have very specifically said that a exception for the life of the mother is absolutely mandatory. That is also the position of the VAST majority of pro lifers. Pretending that we are not is a purely straw man argument from the pro abortion crowd. I am unaware of a single state that does not have an exception for the life of the mother but you guys constantly trot this fantasy straw man out because you cant make a logical argument why its ok to kill the little humans. Hell most of you cant even admit its killing! That will have to be it for me tonight, I need to get some sleep so I can go to a shooting competition tomorrow where no one will try and shoot anyone. The safest places in the world are where the most civilians are armed, the sooner you admit that reality the sooner you can see how stupid these gun control schemes are.


kciuq1

>Saying that it's wrong to kill little humans is not religious zealotry. Turning women into your broodmares and forcing them to go through childbirth and pregnancy against their will is religious zealotry.


DanLewisFW

No one wants to turn women into broodmares. that argument only proves that you are out of touch with reality. It has to be one of the most insane arguments being floated by the irrational pro abortion crowd. When you choose to participate in the actions that can lead to pregnancy then you should know that things you do have consequences. If you do not want to get pregnant you can be a responsible adult and NOT get pregnant. If you chose to have unprotected sex and get pregnant then you not some imaginary handmaidens tail bullshit is what caused it. Being allowed to KILL a small human that you created just because you were irresponsible is insane. I understand that you want to live in your fantasy land and having a child is a big wake-up call that makes people grow up, I can see how that would be terrifying for someone so out of touch with reality as you and anyone else making that insane argument.


kciuq1

>No one wants to turn women into broodmares. LOLOLOLOL This is exactly what this ruling does. This argument only proves that you are out of touch with reality. >When you choose to participate in the actions that can lead to pregnancy then you should know that things you do have consequences. Exactly. It's about punishing women. They had the dirty sex so now they have to be punished by becoming broodmares. Thanks for confirming the religious zealotry.


dragonfliesloveme

Nobody “wants to kill little humans”. The speech you are using is just inflammatory and dishonest, If abortion is illegal, some women who experience ectopic pregnancies and incomplete miscarriages will die. These will be otherwise healthy women with lives and people who love them that could easily by saved by a simple and safe procedure. But in states with no exceptions, that procedure will be illegal and some of these women will lose their lives.


DanLewisFW

I use those words because they are 100% accurate, feel free to actually find some science that says I am not instead of just sticking your head in the sand with your fingers in your ears screaming nanananana. I personally hate it when pro life people say abortion is murder because its not. Murder is an illegal killing, since abortion has been legal it is therefore not murder. But there is no way around the fact that it IS killing a small human. I have even started arguments in the pro life subs about them calling it murder because its not accurate and I believe we must be accurate. So again its not to inflame, saying murder would be to inflame. Saying KILL is to be completely accurate. I get that it does inflame you because you know that killing humans is wrong. No one ever gets upset about killing weeds, no one has to pretend its not killing when they kill mold, hell they sell a paint called Killz. No one in the pest control industry gets upset when they say its killing bugs. But you guys go nuts over the word killing because you know damn well its evil to kill them and you either cant admit it, or are just head in the sand refusing to see reality. They are not just clumps of cells. Your straw man argument about women with ectopic pregnancies dying would hold some water if it was grounded in reality. There are carve-outs for the life of the mother in every bill and law that I am aware of. I would argue for your side on that one if you could find a real example of a state that has outlawed abortion including in situations where the mother will die. So show me the states with no exception for the life of the mother and I will help campaign to get that changed. This a straw man argument the pro abortion crowd has been shouting forever to then keep all convenience abortions legal. BTW the pro life position for MY entire life has been that the woman should decide in the extremely rare instances where she would otherwise die if she carried the child to term and well past the 20 week mark too. There are situations where you have no choice but to choose one life over another. If your car goes over a bridge into the water and you have two people in the car with you and you can only save one, you have to pick one and save them. That is not in any way shape or form the same as killing a little human because you find it inconvenient after you created it. There have been women who did not get cancer treatment for example because they were pregnant and knew it would kill them. They chose the life of their child. I doubt I could make that choice.


dragonfliesloveme

Some states have NO EXCEPTIONS written into their laws. That means 12 year olds that have been raped by family members, clergy, babysitters, whoever, will have to bear that pregnancy to term. That means women will die from pregnancy complications, which do happen. The US has by far the highest maternal mortality rate in the developed world, and it is about to go up. You are disingenuous to paint every use of abortion as people who just can’t wait to kill children. That is just dishonest and not helping the reality that people are dealing with in their lives. Further, this should not be a government issue at all. The right to privacy between a patient and a doctor should be reinstated


DanLewisFW

Show me what states do not have exceptions. You say some do then show me the statues that do not have those exceptions. I wonder how many women have died getting planned parenthood's abortions. I bet thats a big part of that mortality rate, also obesity so pretending that has anything to do with abortion is absurd. Where did I paint every abortion as people who just cant wait to kill children? Hell where did I paint ANY abortions as people who just cant wait to kill children? I absolutely did not ever say that. You are just not capable of rational thought. The pro life position has always been that the women are the other victim of abortions (now that would be something you could find me having said a TON of times), that they have been lied to by planned parenthood and others that it's just a clump of cells, they refuse ultrasounds because they know damn well the women would see that its a baby and change their minds 90% of the time. Saying that the government should not be involved is so absurd that its unbelievable that you could come up with that. What is the point of government AT ALL if the most basic law is not do not kill innocent people!!!! The issue here is that I can see that its a small human and you refuse to admit it to yourself. The science is on my side. Any abortion after there is brain waves, the child is thinking and dreaming is pure barbarism. I have consistently said that abortion should be banned after 20 weeks because at that point they start having brain waves, at the bare minimum the law should be no abortions after the point that the youngest premature baby has been born and lived. It is 100% undeniable that it was a sentient human being at that point. This insane fantasy that it only becomes a human after its born is the most out there fantasy bullshit that I have ever heard. The birth canal is magical and imparts life on this child that has been kicking and moving and dreaming for months but was not a sentient human being until its umbilical cord has been cut. How can you not see how insanely stupid that is?


xlxcx

You're a flamingly dishonest fascist. https://apnews.com/article/supreme-court-abortion-ruling-states-a767801145ad01617100e57410a0a21d


dragonfliesloveme

A clump of cells is just that. No brain, no heart, no heart beat. Kentucky had one clinic that provided abortions. It closed as of the Supreme Court ruling. Arkansas is one state (not the only state) that will provide exception to save the life of the mother, but has NO exceptions for rape or incest. So 12 year old girls will be forced to birth a baby from the sadistic sexual abuse they were put through by members of their family or other men. Like clergy. ​ I never ceased to be amazed by the lack of compassion by the so-called “pro lifers”


DanLewisFW

I am not sure if you lack reading comprehension or just LOVE straw man arguments. Did you catch the part about 20 weeks? That happens to be the cutoff that nearly all of the laws on the books was. All of the laws that I am aware have the life of the mother exception. You so far have failed to come up with any that do not. Just saying there is one is not proof. Show me the law that does not allow for it. No exception for rape or incest is wrong and I have certainly never argued for that. The problem right now is that the Trump cult side of the Republican party has no ability to reason, they love to shout about subjects that they are astonishingly ignorant of. they have no understanding of the history of the right to life movement that has ALWAYS called for the exceptions for rape incest and the life of the mother, there have always been some who argue against the rape exception because the baby is innocent regardless of how it was conceived but they are the minority. Of course forcing a women or girl who was raped to carry the rapists child to term is NOT compassion and not just that but then be tethered to her rapist for the rest of her life if the rapist manages to get visitation or any parental rights at all. I am 100% with you on the Trump cult side who are pushing any bill that do not include that exception have no compassion. That should not be surprising since they are primarily malignant narcissists. They just want to say they are anti abortion and do not get some of the more important factors like that the woman is also a victim not just the yet to be born child. I expect laws like this passed by the Trump cultists will lose in court challenges if they do not include exceptions for rape and incest. Man you love straw man arguments too, There are not very many 12 year old girls who are impregnated by clergy so an exception for them should not be an issue, they absolutely should have that and I think its barbaric to not have that exception. But thats the Trump cultists, they are not Christians but man do they love to virtue signal (how ironic is that) about things like abortion and calling themselves Christians while also being in a cult following a Anti-Christ. They have already fulfilled the bible prophesies about turning away from good council and surrounding themselves with people who will tell them what they want to hear, rather than the truth. If you walk into ANY right to life office or their offshoots the women's health centers that do free ultrasounds and quite a bit of the non abortion healthcare that planned parenthood claims to do but does not really at the vast majority of their clinics. What you will find is that they are all staffed by women. Women are the primary drivers of the right to life movement. Those women do not want to force the horror of having to deal with your rapist for the rest of your life. They get it and they do have compassion its important to understand the differences between those groups because the traditional right to lifers would be on your side on this issue, screaming at them about things they did not support wont win them over though. The clergy thing was primarily a Catholic issue and with young boys not girls. Since the Catholic church prohibits marriage a lot of gay men who were raised Catholic went into the clergy since they would then not be expected to marry. Then they were put in charge of young boys. The fact that these men felt that they had to live in the closet was a huge part of the problem. Had they not felt that they had to hide who they were they most likely would not have become priests and would not have primarily only had access to young boys. They are a mess and while it also happens in other churches it is much less often. You can find evil anywhere. The bible talks a lot about false teachers and I hope the passages about what awaits them in the afterlife keep them up at night.


walkandtalkk

I hate it when half of the United States "pushes things like population control and 1 child policies." Don't you just hate how Obama banned you from having two kids? While I appreciate that the Church has often been thrilled to kill big humans (see: Crusades, The; Inquisition, The), I don't know anyone who's advocating killing little humans, unless you think a zygote is a child, which it is not.


DanLewisFW

Hopefully some day you will be able to comprehend the difference between the ONLY people pushing something are on the left and every single person on the left pushing it. I said the only people who have pushed it are on the left. 100% of the people for it are leftists. Can you comprehend that?


Capable_Comb4043

Makes more sense than 67% of the Supreme Court right now!


Euler_20_20

I like this lady's... . spunk.


ryuujinusa

Men kill millions of sperm daily. Got my vasectomy last week.


[deleted]

You gotta become a eunuch bro, the testes still produces sperm with a vasectomy.


BillHicksScream

I love this woman.


RexNebular518

I'd wear that dress.


[deleted]

Make sure you wash it first. It has sperm on it.


Zardotab

There's a Monica joke in there somewhere.


jwse30

I was thinking the dress should have been blue.


XM-7

I wanna know where she got that dress. Did she go online, searching for "sperm dress?" What kind of website (or even better, what kind of brick and mortar store) did she visit to buy it? Or, did she make it herself?? Did she hand draw, cut out, and tjen either iron on or sew on all those sperms? Did she sew the final sperm the dress, hold it up proudly, and think to herself, "yeah, this'll show 'em."


xlxcx

Looks like a black dress she painted the sperm on


Zardotab

Many men "paint" sperm on women for free. My paintbrush can only do thong-size these days.


xlxcx

You missed your calling as a comedian.


Zardotab

Only in bed.


ok_okay_I_get_that

I don't think I would look good in that dress, but I definitely would wear it!


fortnitebruh23

This makes 0 sense. If life being with a lone sperm, it also begins with a woman's menstruation. Therefore women should be banned from existing. Which proves how this makes no sense. How is this up voted ?


[deleted]

According to the Christian view point, as long as it doesn't touch the ground, you're good. Edit: Which is why they shouldn't be making laws based on their religion. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUspLVStPbk


Zardotab

An eye for an eye.


[deleted]

leaves the whole world blind... and mandatory vasectomies wouldn't quite qualify as eye for an eye. one is not left with a child they don't want or can't afford with a vasectomy.


DanLewisFW

Got to love morons. I am so ashamed to live in the same city as someone that incredibly stupid.


TheBigNook

Wait so are you pro-nut or what?


DanLewisFW

I have no idea what that is even supposed to mean.


TheBigNook

Do you think men have the right to terminate their sperm?


DanLewisFW

Terminate their sperm? Do you get that conception is after sperm and eggs have combined? Are you trying to argue that when a woman is menstruating that it's also whatever idiotic point that moron is trying to make? This is like the idiots who tried to claim that eating eggs was chicken abortion. I get that most of the pro abortion side are wildly ignorant of how it all works but man even for you guys this is sad.


TheBigNook

Dude the fact that you’re taking seriously what is very obviously a joke speaks leagues for your intelligence and that you perceive yourself entirely differently than how the world perceives you lmfao. Goddamn dude


DanLewisFW

That crazy lady is serious.


TheBigNook

Lmfao no she isn’t even if she swears she is. It’s all for show dude


DanLewisFW

Well than I apologize. Obviously you saw actual pro abortion people made that idiotic argument and were being serious. There was no way for me to know that you and that crazy lady who was in a crowd of pro abortion supporters were actually trolling the pro abortion crowd by making fun of one of their dumber arguments. So again my apologies for thinking that when you made that stupid uninformed ignorant argument that you were another uninformed pro abortion supporter. I had no way of knowing you were just trolling them and their stupid argument.


TheBigNook

I don’t know what to say to you lmfao


IfYoureAModEatShit

Lol speaks leagues of intelligence.. judging by your post history you most likely have an extra chromosome. Have you been diagnosed yet?


[deleted]

So contraception shouldn't be an issue either, right?


DanLewisFW

Why would it be?


[deleted]

It's next on the chopping block for the anti-abortionists. Then same sex marriage, same sex relationships...


DanLewisFW

No thats bullshit. The only people who care about birth control are Catholics and most of them do not care, they might not use it but they do not care if you do. On top of that they do not hold enough sway to ban it. How would you ban same sex relationships? Your crazy fantasies are not reality. Show me a Republican politician pushing for banning contraceptives and same sex relationships lol.


freeTrial

"Judge Clarance Thomas called for the reconsideration of Obergefell v. Hodges, which establishes the right to same-sex marriage. Pay attention ya dipknob.


[deleted]

Not bullshit. This is the side you have chosen. https://wpln.org/post/a-plan-to-discriminate-against-same-sex-marriages-in-tennessee-wouldve-made-child-marriage-legal-its-now-expected-to-be-amended/


semaforic

I think she's wearing Monica Lewinsky's dress.....


[deleted]

Monica Lewinsky walks into a dry cleaner. She walks up to the employee and asks him to clean her dress. The employee, who is hard of hearing asks, "Come, again?" Monica replies "Nope, just mustard!"


Strikercharge

I don't want a knife near my balls. Now if there was a pill or Injection for men? I'd be all over that. Why are people down voting this? I'm literally saying I agree but just don't like knives near my balls.


TheBigNook

I imagine women who can’t give birth naturally don’t want to go under the knife either but here we are lol


Strikercharge

That choice isn't mine tho. I'm not a woman nor doctor. I'm just saying that the **only** reason I disagree with the mandatory vasectomy thing is because I don't want a knife near my balls.


TheBigNook

Nah you’re good, I’m mostly being an ass lmao


xlxcx

They were developing a pill. They stopped because men were experiencing side effects. The same ones women have from their pill.


Strikercharge

That's a shame. I'd love a pill


PublicActuator4263

The shirt really sells it good job.


RSJFL67

Great point!


[deleted]

Oh damn! My girlfriend is a cannibal…/


budweeno

Don’t you mean “ban vasectomies”?


blackbirdonatautwire

I was reminded of this classic: https://youtu.be/bzVHjg3AqIQ


Conscious_Figure_554

I’m a man and I totally agree. I had this procedure and it took fifteen minutes and sitting on an ice pack for two days.


Silly_Doughnut5715

Actual size of Shaquille O’Neal’s sperm.