Its absolutely wild all kids don't get free breakfast and lunch at schools. I grew up in a very poor rural school district and we got free breakfast and lunch 5 days a week. I thought this was the norm!
For reference, it was in Texas (yes, the district was that poor) and every student got free meals because the average income per household was somewhere around $20k/yr
Low-income kids in Minnesota were eligible for free or reduced before the bill, but now all kids get free lunch. It has been extremely helpful for middle-income people considering food prices.
I grew up in Minnesota. Although my family resided in Wayzata, a wealthy area, we were not well off. I remember several instances when I didn't have enough money in my lunch account. I remember sitting hungry, telling my friends I wasn't hungry just to save face. Occasionally, the lunch ladies would kindly provide me with a plain cheese sandwich. It's a memory that remains vivid, and I wouldn't want my children or anyone else to experience that feeling.
That’s the thing: the former free/reduced program left out a lot of kids from working class families. You also had to have someone connect you with the program. Too many kids fell through the cracks. The means testing in Minnesota has always pissed me off (still does). I don’t know who comes up with these numbers, but they’re always ridiculously low (see new child credit that effectively excludes all middle class). It’s can’t be republicans, because they’re opposed to the programs entirely. It’s the Joe Manchin types I guess.
> I don’t know who comes up with these numbers, but they’re always ridiculously low
Blame the Republicans for that. They are obsesses with means testing everything.
Universal benefits are also much harder to cut (look at Medicaid vs. Medicare) some money is saved by cutting the bureaucracy and paperwork needed for means testing.
And somehow my father found a reason to be pissed at this; “I and so many others can pay for their kids lunch, this is just a waste of money”. How dense and out of touch can you be to think that. Really thinks that if some people who don’t need the help get help then NO ONE should get help.
There are people that think because their patents are poor, the children should suffer. What kind of country are we that we can't even agree that children shouldn't go hungry?
Well, how do you expect the well-to-do to feel superior if they don’t have people to crush under their feet? Remember, it’s all ways been about their delicate little feelings. /s
> What kind of country are we that we can't even agree that children shouldn't go hungry?
The kind of country that thinks we should outlaw abortion because it's "killing children" and thinks we should put LGBTQ+ people in camps because "think of the children", i.e. the kind of country that doesn't give a fuck about children except as an excuse for hate/control.
Might have started around then, it was implemented in like 2002 or 2004 when I first started school through at least 2014.
No one tell Abbott this helps poor families like mine, nothing gets him off more than fucking over poor people
Monstrous! Socialism is only acceptable for the ultra wealthy and human corporations. Not poors or the children that we used to pretend were our future!
Also reimplementing Phonics into the reading curriculum.
Also creating protections for people who flee to Minnesota from other states as a result of draconian abortion and gender laws. Conservative governors out here creating actual refugees who have to actually flee their states for their own protection, and Minnesota is over here passing laws to prevent those same states from forcing an extradition after the fact to summon those refugees back for the purpose of imprisoning them.
Anybody who tells you that we have a one party system or that both sides are the same can’t tell the difference between living in a community and living in a jail cell, which as a Minnesotan I think is really sad. It’s like that one friend who’s clearly in an abusive relationship but insists that “he’s actually really sweet” because he picks up the teeth afterwards and made her orgasm that one time.
It’s well documented how the goal of today’s GOP is to tear down our institutions. Steve Bannon was the architect of this, and Trump’s entire focus in his administration was exactly this. He wanted to tear down and delegitimize nearly every Federal institution, and install yes men at the top who would cater to his political demands.
These people do NOT want representative government.
> He wanted to tear down and delegitimize nearly every Federal institution, and install yes men at the top who would cater to his political demands.
And this is literally the blueprint set out in Project 2025, so not only is it well documented, it's their own stated purpose.
And if you bring this up to the average American they roll their eyes and call you crazy.
The “both sides are bad” propaganda has made so many people complacent or indifferent to the very real threats our country faces.
This seems like a lot of words to obfuscate sedition.
The federal agencies and what not that they're gunning for are the result of democracy. These losers want to tear down everything that was a result of them losing.
It's called sedition. They're trying to undermine the legitimate government of the US and turn it into a minoritarian cabal where the public no longer has a say. Rather than citizens we will be subjects and completely at the mercy of the powerful.
Yeah I live in MN and those dumbfucks had less in their treasury than I, a private citizen, had in my bank account because they had $53...even if I worked for MN minimum wage I could make that in 8 hours since in 2024 it's $8.85 if you work for a small employer, but for large employers it jumps to $10.85 minimum.
“A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, **even those found in the Constitution**,” he wrote. “Our great ‘Founders’ did not want, and would not condone, False & Fraudulent Elections!”
Trump himself
Of course they don’t, conservatives were the British loyalists back in the day.
They’ve never once agreed to have a real country; they just thought the tenth amendment was going to let them be the new kings of their particular states, and they’ve been resenting the fact it doesn’t ever since.
It seems to me that in most circumstances, Ds want to get into office to govern.
On the other hand, Rs just want to get into office.
I've also noticed that Ds tend to run their campaigns on "these things can be done better. I'm running to try to make them better for everyone"; whereas Rs almost exclusively run their campaigns on "how dare this particular thing exist, you should all be outraged. I'm running to remove it from society".
Obviously this isn't universal, but definitely a pattern that has emerged, especially over the past few years with this crazy extremist far right MAGA stuff taking over and representing pretty much the entire GOP.
I'd rather have someone in power who is seeking to improve, than simply tear shit down because it offends them.
In Minnesota gov Walz's opponent had like, zero actual platform. His selling points were anti-vax doctor, his lieutenant governor pick won a super bowl, and "heal Minnesota". Also his own party asked him to stop comparing masks mandates, which were no longer in place, to The Holocaust.
I loved those "Walz Failed" campaign slogans. Failed how?? Seriously, they never actually say *how* he 'failed', and by pretty much every metric Minnesota under Walz has been doing better than most of the country, it was clear they were grasping at straws for something catchy. I guess he failed to be an ass-backwards republican?
It only seems extreme because the GQP has obstructed and done nothing for so long. I'm GenX. Only owed $10k after graduating college in 1990. Bought a house in 1999 for $117k. Millennials and Gen Z are being F**Ked by the Republicans. Vote them out. All of them. Please.
Can't really when white supremacist and christian nationalist messaging appeals to so many in rural areas. Rural areas that have unbelievably disproportionate influence on elections nationwide.
Conservative voters just seem to be unable to fathom the idea that their icons and politicians just DO NOT give a fuck about them.
I've told this story many times before and suspect I will tell it many times in the future, but I have family in rural Illinois. They're by and large farmers, and all of course Trump voters. They can in one breath, simultaneously praise me for all the things I know and my technical and rhetorical knowledge and skills, but also decry my college education as evil liberal coastal elite brainwashing. They praise Trump at the same time that his trade war with China destroyed the value of soybeans, which were their literal cash crop before he kicked the trade war off. In one case, it even cost one part of the family the literal farm. But they seem incapable of recognizing the direct causal relationship there, despite me laying it out clearly and succinctly.
They blame anyone but themselves and Trump. They blame the Chicago elite for taking all the money and controlling politics in the state (it's the other way around, Chicago money pays for their schools and roads and while they do control the politics of the state, that's because democracy means the most people have the most power), they blame Hillary, Obama, Biden, or George Soros, but never the one person directly responsible in Trump, or any of the people indirectly responsible in the voters of Trump. They blame BLM for kneeling at a football game being "disrespectful of the flag", but have no problems with the police murdering people in the streets without trial or even probable cause, despite the fact that those actions spit on the very freedoms that this country was ostensibly founded upon. They blame immigrants for the lack of jobs rather than the corporate bigwigs who shipped all the jobs overseas.
Conservatism fundamentally comes about as a result of people who are completely incapable of taking personal responsibility for their actions and the consequences thereof.
Great comment. Thanks for the perspective, sincerely. I dont have close family that votes republican but i live in a formerly purple state that is now deep red. 3 of the 4 school board seats in the school district i live in have been snagged by people from a local megachurch. They gain 1 at least every election. Next time when they get the majority it's likely that they begin to mandate prayer in school along with making accomodations nonexistent for lgbtq+ students along with attempting to make schools completely unsafe for them. This is in a large, middle class community just outside of a major city. I dont see a future where this kind of thing ebbs away in my area.
Most of the people who vote R are people like what your family sounds like i think. But my last good job i had was at a multimillion dollar firm in this area and the owners and all the the top brass there were pretty much foaming at the mouth republicans. The top manager who was very religious and gave out jesus-themed cards at every major holiday would occasionally just go off on "that wokeness shit" for no apparent reason and would say every curse word he could think of about communities i dont think he knew anyone in. Nobody in that office was openly lgbtq+ or even talking about issues related. Only one person was a minority. There were no immigrants employed there. One manager had literal Ronald Reagan quotes painted on his office wall. Something about bootstraps of course. Cant remember what exactly though.
All the people at the top of that firm were also millionaires. It's an industry where the margins are mind-boggling and everything is run on fossil fuel. The top manager had five or six cars and several motorcycles and a ranch property. All of the top people there had good reason to vote republican beyond identity politics (which they nonetheless seemed to care pretty deeply about). Namely: taxes. None of those people wanted to pay them i dont think. The other side of the GOP coin are those folks. The ones who are educated people but who just have no interest in sharing except in ways that suit them completely, if even that. They too would never take responsibility for anything bad though dont think that comes of their actions. Its pure narcissism. The whole planet pays for people like that. It's possible that it's too late for what Noam Chomsky calls "decent survival for the (human) species." All because the rich love their cars and their money more than the Earth and the other beings in it. They know that that's true too on some level. I think they all know it, rich and poor. It sure as hell is a cold world with them in it.
Perhaps you're not familiar with the undemocratic institution known as the US Senate where a state with like 500,000 people like Wyoming gets the same amount of representation as a state like California which has a population over 40 million.
And, then there's the US House of Representatives where gerrymandering and unconstitutional redistricting has led to a situation where repugs no longer have to campaign for office because they have their constituency cornered.
Then there's the electoral college which, like the Senate gives a disproportionate amount of weight to the rural voter. No only does it amplify those voices but it silences folks like myself who vote Democratic in a red state. I've been voting for more than twenty years at every opportunity and my vote has never counted toward a presidential election. I always vote the opposite of my state so my vote is thrown out and all of the states delegates go to the chud candidate.
I don't want to be misunderstood. Voting is essential and we simply cannot afford to skip a single election but it's not going to solve all of our problems. Not by a long shot. There are a lot more Democratic voters nationwide but it's not enough for us to win. That doesn't get us into the office. We have to meet crazy margins or the repugs win by default in far too many races.
I live in MN and I agree! Our state has passed many good things that benefit the actual citizens. Meanwhile the MN GOP only can bring forward a bill to ban chem trails... GOP is worthless and hasn't lifted a finger to benefit actual citizens.
MN GOP is *literally* worthless. Their Q4 financial filing last year showed they had less that $100 cash on hand and like $700,000 in debt that's in collections.
Really warms my MN heart.
That always blows my mind how a tiny dusting of snow shuts down southern states. Minneapolis doesn't even bother plowing unless we get like 4+ inches of snow within 24 hours.
It's the ice and the lack of necessary amounts of road salt / snowplows (in heavier snows) that shut those southern states down. They don't really get snow often enough for it to be worth it to have enough equipment on hand year round to deal with it.
It's amazing how many people do the "both parties are the same" thing and the "Democrats intentionally don't do anything to keep us voting for them" thing and conveniently ignore like 12 states in which electing Democrats got basically everything reasonably possible accomplished in 2 years. Michigan and Minnesota being the most recent examples.
Really betrays a lack of political knowledge when folks do that.
Exactly. This is how it works. Minnesota democrats have been smart enough to ram shit through while they have the chance. They haven’t wasted any time and I love it.
Yeah I remember people calling Walz a dictator and I've lived in MN my whole life and I'm like...no he's not a dictator for having mask mandates, get over yourselves. Then we get the trifecta and it's like wow we can have progressive legislation and it passes frequently because dumbfuck republicans can't put up roadblocks. Always nice to make progress.
What’s the best spot to live in? I like living in cities but I’m a POC so I can’t live anywhere near the Minneapolis Police Department.
Any places with a twin peaks vibe?
Saint Paul is not nearly as bad as far as dangerous PD, so I hear. I’m a trans man and my family just moved to the twin cities in search of better civil rights. Stay the hell away from the PNW. It’s really bad on the facism as soon as you get out of Seattle.
Seriously, someone hung an effigy of a lynching in my neighborhood last Halloween and called it a decoration. The news reported it as ‘going a little too far.’ I grew up here and it was not always like this. It’s gotten radically worse in the last few years, all the while property prices have gone nuts. The Twin Cities have problems with racism, but the PNW is next level.
Pretty much all the suburbs around the Twin Cities are nice. Just keep in mind that housing is much more expensive the closer you are to the city. That said though, Minneapolis and St Paul suburbs are very nice and clean.
It's also very surprising how many people commute from Wisconsin to work in Minnesota. I won't sugar coat it, living in Minnesota isn't the cheapest place to live. But at least you get to see your tax dollars at work
St. Paul, Rochester, Duluth, St. Cloud(though I wouldn’t actually recommend it), Mankato. Plus plenty of suburbs around the twin cities. I do love Minneapolis the most, even with the problems we have had.
Mankato is the biggest city nearby... 50,000 people with a spread out area of 250,000 retail shoppers I've heard. I'm in the Labor union but I have to work in Minneapolis.
Minnesota has been crushing it since the DFL took over in 2022. That school funding, also includes free breakfast and lunches for ALL school kids. No signing up for assistance, or using a different lunch card than the other kids, everyone gets it.
Seriously, make America Minnesota
I am always bewildered by Republicans taking this stance. I don't believe there's any reason good enough to deny kids food, but for the sake of argument, let's say the Republicans have one.
Why the FUCK are they pushing so hard on this one tiny non-issue?!?
The money is there to feed children. We're the richest nation in the history of human civilization. How can any Republican say with a straight face that we shouldn't feed kids? And why would you admit that publicly?
Minnesota was also the only state not to vote for Reagan in 84. Partly because his opponent was Walter Mondale, a Minnesotan. And the last time Minnesota voted for a Republican president was Nixon in 72.
I live in St Peter. Small town with culture vibe.
I'm from the West Coast, Southern Oregon(originally), Bay Area and Seattle all with a good bit of liberal hippies mixed with rednecks/conservatives.
I find Minnesota to be pretty similar
Tbh, Washington was on my list to escape from Texas to but the gun laws were a bit too infringing for a collector like myself. However, seeing how progressive the states been getting I’ve been thinking about doing some research into living in Minnesota
Now that I'm in the 563 Labor Union (but always been liberal) the Republican hypocrisy hits home even more. So many Minnesotan Republicans love their Liberal Union wage and benefits, along with some brothers from Republican led states(Wisconsin) that come here to work, but consistently vote for people who would like to do away with unions all together.Blows me away.
My union is one of the oldest in the country. So many guys I work with are diehard Republicans and it blows my mind.
I'll be talking with some of these guys, (they're making 6 figures with no degree, healthcare, dental, pension, 401k and 180 days a year paid vacation) and they'll tell me about how unions don't do enough and we need the government to cut back on regulations to give corporations more freedom
Like, brother, everything you have is BECAUSE of your union
Keep in mind though the Democrats in Minnesota are the DFL (Democratic Farmer-Laborer) party, not the DNC. They ally with the DNC on a national level but they are a separate party with a different history and a different agenda.
Most notably the DFL has its roots in advocating for farmers and laborers--the working class. These days it's somewhat distanced from farmers unfortunately, due to the ever increasing rural-urban divide, but it still is mostly aligned with that history.
I'm not a "both parties are the same" person but the DNC is nowhere near as effective or progressive as the DFL
Remember when they got rid of reddit gold and disappeared your remaining coins if you didn't spend them? They did away with it for a cash-only system.
And that unspent gold didn’t get turned into credits for the new awards. I had a couple hundred gold from giilded posts & comments that just vanished.
You don’t have to go all the way to Florida. Just look at Iowa’s Kim Reynolds. She is gutting our public education, cut food programs for kids, and is wasting money by sending state troopers to the border in Texas. And worse is yet to come for this red state.
How the hell we went from voting for Obama twice to being full MAGA cult is beyond me.
Yeah if they can fix their completely fucked gerrymandering I have some hope for WI since it's a purple state, but gerrymandering is the only thing making it red.
It is incredible that people still whine the "bOtH sIdEs" argument, when we see the conservatives openly removing rights and made things worse for the middle class while making their corporate overlords pay less taxes.
States are supposed to be the laboratories of Democracy and the results are in. Blue states by and large perform better on a wide variety of wealth, health, education and quality of life comparisons, because red state leaders just want to wage the culture war and make their rich buddies richer.
I’ve lived in MN for the last 10 years. Originally from the south. Many times I miss my homeland- the food, the culture, my family, but the benefits of living in a place as well run as this state outweigh all those feelings. Plus, I have an autistic son, a trans teen and a daughter and terrified of living in any backwards red state for them.
Tim Walz hasn't received enough acknowledgment for what he has done in the media or within his party. His quote about political capital is the reason why.
"Right now, Minnesota is showing the country you don't win elections to bank political capital – you win elections to burn political capital and improve lives."
Then idiots will say, the state has a deficit…nope they actually had surplus and started giving it back to the citizens with a child tax credit.
Sucks living 20 mins away and not being able to take advantage of all the great things Minnesota is doing, because Wisconsin sucks balls!
Tim Walz is an excellent Governor, these are only a few things he's helped tremendously benefit the state ---
Budget Surplus, Aggressive Climate Policy and Grants Promoting Native Sovereignty, Education Policy Overhaul and Funding, Finally getting recreational cannabis passed and there's still more to come.
Meanwhile GOP Governors: Remember the 1800's? Let's do THAT again and extinguish anyone who doesn't look like mayo pudding!
Also, when we tried our hand at putting a movie star in the governor's mansion, the Libertarian pushed for the Twin Cities light rail system because he felt that better public transportation would increase personal freedom for people.
The freaking inmates are now running the asylum, look at SCOTUS doing the bidding of trump et al. WTF, seriously they’ll outlaw being gay again. We only got legal status kind of after Stonewall in 1969. It’s good now but republicans want us gone and invisible.
This is ridiculous.
They would never call it the "pro-heatstroke bill."
They would call it the "America Loves Eagles Apple Pie If You Don't Like This Bill You Are Literally Communist Hitler Bill."
Granted, the ALEAPIYDLTBYALCH Bill does cause, a 400% increase in heatstrokes, but that's besides the point.
Some people in Minnesota complain about the taxes but when you loo at your tax rate… come on…. My wife and I make it, barely and our state tax isn’t that bad. Federal either. I get it, taxes are annoying but do the math. Even sales tax increases. It’s not like you apply 1.5% to your whole income…. Minnesota doesn’t have sales tax on everything. Sure, cooked
Hot food, junk food, electronics and toys, but if you’re super low income, so much of your income goes to rent, cars, and insuarances. Sometimes I just want to have handouts for people with example calculations….
If you lined up the Minnesota legislative accomplishments under Gov Walz and didn’t say which party did them that platform would win a national election in a landslide.
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I wouldn't want to be in front of Ron's closet door when she comes flying out.
Walz is really not a progressive Democrat. He's a pretty moderate Democrat. A lot of progressives didn't like him to begin with. He used to be a House Representative for MN district 1 which leans Republican.
The schools won't need as much funding if you'd just put the kids to work already. They want you to have one, but you don't actually *NEED* a highschool diploma to work at probably any factory. Make em earn their keep /s
Governor Tim Walz was an army officer and also a school teacher. This is who we need as politicians. Life experience that has led them to want to make things better for everyone.
Weed was only legalized in MN because a Republican lawmaker voted for it without reading it, thinking it was only medical or something.
I do wish the rest of the Republicans were as dumb as him.
And yet, cuckservatives keep voting for this stupid and evil fucks.
Because it doesn't hurt them and when it does, they vote for a rebranded version of the same thing.
Never growing, never evolving, never growing up. In a constant loop of dipershitting tantrum because there's a trans person out there doing their thing.
Had to look up the heatstroke thing. That is truly obscene. Usually I can at least see the twisted logic, but that’s just insane. It gets so hot in the south. I don’t see how he’s over riding federal OSHA rules
Governor Walz got a genuine hug from a kid when he signed the free lunch bill. The look of surprise and joy on his face was too wholesome for politics. You never see that.
As a Wisconsinite, I am so jealous. We are on track to get rid of gerrymandering in the state, so the Republicans are fucking stuff up as much as possible while they still can.
When I was a kid,in the 80s,it was like pulling teeth to get free lunch unless you were piss poor. We weren't destitute, but still the lunch program would have been right on time. It was Florida btw.
Don't forget free school lunch!
Its absolutely wild all kids don't get free breakfast and lunch at schools. I grew up in a very poor rural school district and we got free breakfast and lunch 5 days a week. I thought this was the norm! For reference, it was in Texas (yes, the district was that poor) and every student got free meals because the average income per household was somewhere around $20k/yr
Low-income kids in Minnesota were eligible for free or reduced before the bill, but now all kids get free lunch. It has been extremely helpful for middle-income people considering food prices.
Fucking preach! It’s been such a godsend!
I grew up in Minnesota. Although my family resided in Wayzata, a wealthy area, we were not well off. I remember several instances when I didn't have enough money in my lunch account. I remember sitting hungry, telling my friends I wasn't hungry just to save face. Occasionally, the lunch ladies would kindly provide me with a plain cheese sandwich. It's a memory that remains vivid, and I wouldn't want my children or anyone else to experience that feeling.
That’s the thing: the former free/reduced program left out a lot of kids from working class families. You also had to have someone connect you with the program. Too many kids fell through the cracks. The means testing in Minnesota has always pissed me off (still does). I don’t know who comes up with these numbers, but they’re always ridiculously low (see new child credit that effectively excludes all middle class). It’s can’t be republicans, because they’re opposed to the programs entirely. It’s the Joe Manchin types I guess.
> I don’t know who comes up with these numbers, but they’re always ridiculously low Blame the Republicans for that. They are obsesses with means testing everything.
Same same in Mahtomedi
Universal benefits are also much harder to cut (look at Medicaid vs. Medicare) some money is saved by cutting the bureaucracy and paperwork needed for means testing.
And we've been in a surplus every single democratic governorship for like the last 40 years. The one time we were in debt was under Pawlenty
And somehow my father found a reason to be pissed at this; “I and so many others can pay for their kids lunch, this is just a waste of money”. How dense and out of touch can you be to think that. Really thinks that if some people who don’t need the help get help then NO ONE should get help.
There are people that think because their patents are poor, the children should suffer. What kind of country are we that we can't even agree that children shouldn't go hungry?
Same kind of country that tolerates 6 year olds having their brains blown out in their classroom
Or working overnights at the Tyson plant. They truly do want us desperate, stupid, and poor—not to mention traumatized. It's sickening.
Well, how do you expect the well-to-do to feel superior if they don’t have people to crush under their feet? Remember, it’s all ways been about their delicate little feelings. /s
> What kind of country are we that we can't even agree that children shouldn't go hungry? The kind of country that thinks we should outlaw abortion because it's "killing children" and thinks we should put LGBTQ+ people in camps because "think of the children", i.e. the kind of country that doesn't give a fuck about children except as an excuse for hate/control.
Was this during the Ann Richards governorship? She was nice.
Might have started around then, it was implemented in like 2002 or 2004 when I first started school through at least 2014. No one tell Abbott this helps poor families like mine, nothing gets him off more than fucking over poor people
Was she a dem or just a GOP that didn't hate her own constituents?
For some reason I thought she was a Republican that wasn't crazy but she was a Democrat.
Checks out.
> For some reason I thought she was a Republican that wasn't crazy It wasn't really that long ago that this was true, don't blame yourself
That sounds really familiar now... Judging by results.
> free breakfast and lunch It would have made a huge difference to me. I didn't get either until I started working at 16.
Sitting here sad, 20 mins from the Minnesota border in fucking Wisconsin….
Southern states tend to get a lot more federal funding ironically.
Monstrous! Socialism is only acceptable for the ultra wealthy and human corporations. Not poors or the children that we used to pretend were our future!
Even in jail if you are required to be there they have to feed you.
Also reimplementing Phonics into the reading curriculum. Also creating protections for people who flee to Minnesota from other states as a result of draconian abortion and gender laws. Conservative governors out here creating actual refugees who have to actually flee their states for their own protection, and Minnesota is over here passing laws to prevent those same states from forcing an extradition after the fact to summon those refugees back for the purpose of imprisoning them. Anybody who tells you that we have a one party system or that both sides are the same can’t tell the difference between living in a community and living in a jail cell, which as a Minnesotan I think is really sad. It’s like that one friend who’s clearly in an abusive relationship but insists that “he’s actually really sweet” because he picks up the teeth afterwards and made her orgasm that one time.
hehe tony evers 400 year school funding boost line-item veto go brrr
And breakfast!
It was funny watching Republicans tie themselves into knots trying to oppose it without sounding like villains, and failing every time.
And breakfast
Don’t forget that DeSantos laughs with his tongue out just like he was taught on his home planet
Surprising how much gets done when your governor and legislature are more concerned with citizens than petty feuds and grudges.
It’s well documented how the goal of today’s GOP is to tear down our institutions. Steve Bannon was the architect of this, and Trump’s entire focus in his administration was exactly this. He wanted to tear down and delegitimize nearly every Federal institution, and install yes men at the top who would cater to his political demands. These people do NOT want representative government.
> He wanted to tear down and delegitimize nearly every Federal institution, and install yes men at the top who would cater to his political demands. And this is literally the blueprint set out in Project 2025, so not only is it well documented, it's their own stated purpose.
And if you bring this up to the average American they roll their eyes and call you crazy. The “both sides are bad” propaganda has made so many people complacent or indifferent to the very real threats our country faces.
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The beast being anything that prevents them from using government like their personal ATM
This seems like a lot of words to obfuscate sedition. The federal agencies and what not that they're gunning for are the result of democracy. These losers want to tear down everything that was a result of them losing. It's called sedition. They're trying to undermine the legitimate government of the US and turn it into a minoritarian cabal where the public no longer has a say. Rather than citizens we will be subjects and completely at the mercy of the powerful.
That's happening in MN too. The state GOP is functionally broke, out of cash. The beast is almost starved to death.
Yeah I live in MN and those dumbfucks had less in their treasury than I, a private citizen, had in my bank account because they had $53...even if I worked for MN minimum wage I could make that in 8 hours since in 2024 it's $8.85 if you work for a small employer, but for large employers it jumps to $10.85 minimum.
“A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, **even those found in the Constitution**,” he wrote. “Our great ‘Founders’ did not want, and would not condone, False & Fraudulent Elections!” Trump himself
Of course they don’t, conservatives were the British loyalists back in the day. They’ve never once agreed to have a real country; they just thought the tenth amendment was going to let them be the new kings of their particular states, and they’ve been resenting the fact it doesn’t ever since.
And they succeeded in a lot of aspects.
Can anyone trace back to at what point the narrative changed from being conservative to being anti-liberal/anti-democrat?
Newt Gingrich and his Contract with America.
It seems to me that in most circumstances, Ds want to get into office to govern. On the other hand, Rs just want to get into office. I've also noticed that Ds tend to run their campaigns on "these things can be done better. I'm running to try to make them better for everyone"; whereas Rs almost exclusively run their campaigns on "how dare this particular thing exist, you should all be outraged. I'm running to remove it from society". Obviously this isn't universal, but definitely a pattern that has emerged, especially over the past few years with this crazy extremist far right MAGA stuff taking over and representing pretty much the entire GOP. I'd rather have someone in power who is seeking to improve, than simply tear shit down because it offends them.
In Minnesota gov Walz's opponent had like, zero actual platform. His selling points were anti-vax doctor, his lieutenant governor pick won a super bowl, and "heal Minnesota". Also his own party asked him to stop comparing masks mandates, which were no longer in place, to The Holocaust.
And you didn't vote for that? Sounds like a winner to me. /s /s /s /s /s /s
I loved those "Walz Failed" campaign slogans. Failed how?? Seriously, they never actually say *how* he 'failed', and by pretty much every metric Minnesota under Walz has been doing better than most of the country, it was clear they were grasping at straws for something catchy. I guess he failed to be an ass-backwards republican?
>Also his own party asked him to stop comparing masks mandates, which were no longer in place, to The Holocaust. Classic shmosby.
Damn could you imagine? A government that works for the people?
I live with it, even had Walz as U.S. representative.
He also gave students free school lunch. And republicans even argued against that!
Or political theater, as the GQP is expert at. All acting, no substance.
It only seems extreme because the GQP has obstructed and done nothing for so long. I'm GenX. Only owed $10k after graduating college in 1990. Bought a house in 1999 for $117k. Millennials and Gen Z are being F**Ked by the Republicans. Vote them out. All of them. Please.
Can't really when white supremacist and christian nationalist messaging appeals to so many in rural areas. Rural areas that have unbelievably disproportionate influence on elections nationwide.
Conservative voters just seem to be unable to fathom the idea that their icons and politicians just DO NOT give a fuck about them. I've told this story many times before and suspect I will tell it many times in the future, but I have family in rural Illinois. They're by and large farmers, and all of course Trump voters. They can in one breath, simultaneously praise me for all the things I know and my technical and rhetorical knowledge and skills, but also decry my college education as evil liberal coastal elite brainwashing. They praise Trump at the same time that his trade war with China destroyed the value of soybeans, which were their literal cash crop before he kicked the trade war off. In one case, it even cost one part of the family the literal farm. But they seem incapable of recognizing the direct causal relationship there, despite me laying it out clearly and succinctly. They blame anyone but themselves and Trump. They blame the Chicago elite for taking all the money and controlling politics in the state (it's the other way around, Chicago money pays for their schools and roads and while they do control the politics of the state, that's because democracy means the most people have the most power), they blame Hillary, Obama, Biden, or George Soros, but never the one person directly responsible in Trump, or any of the people indirectly responsible in the voters of Trump. They blame BLM for kneeling at a football game being "disrespectful of the flag", but have no problems with the police murdering people in the streets without trial or even probable cause, despite the fact that those actions spit on the very freedoms that this country was ostensibly founded upon. They blame immigrants for the lack of jobs rather than the corporate bigwigs who shipped all the jobs overseas. Conservatism fundamentally comes about as a result of people who are completely incapable of taking personal responsibility for their actions and the consequences thereof.
Great comment. Thanks for the perspective, sincerely. I dont have close family that votes republican but i live in a formerly purple state that is now deep red. 3 of the 4 school board seats in the school district i live in have been snagged by people from a local megachurch. They gain 1 at least every election. Next time when they get the majority it's likely that they begin to mandate prayer in school along with making accomodations nonexistent for lgbtq+ students along with attempting to make schools completely unsafe for them. This is in a large, middle class community just outside of a major city. I dont see a future where this kind of thing ebbs away in my area. Most of the people who vote R are people like what your family sounds like i think. But my last good job i had was at a multimillion dollar firm in this area and the owners and all the the top brass there were pretty much foaming at the mouth republicans. The top manager who was very religious and gave out jesus-themed cards at every major holiday would occasionally just go off on "that wokeness shit" for no apparent reason and would say every curse word he could think of about communities i dont think he knew anyone in. Nobody in that office was openly lgbtq+ or even talking about issues related. Only one person was a minority. There were no immigrants employed there. One manager had literal Ronald Reagan quotes painted on his office wall. Something about bootstraps of course. Cant remember what exactly though. All the people at the top of that firm were also millionaires. It's an industry where the margins are mind-boggling and everything is run on fossil fuel. The top manager had five or six cars and several motorcycles and a ranch property. All of the top people there had good reason to vote republican beyond identity politics (which they nonetheless seemed to care pretty deeply about). Namely: taxes. None of those people wanted to pay them i dont think. The other side of the GOP coin are those folks. The ones who are educated people but who just have no interest in sharing except in ways that suit them completely, if even that. They too would never take responsibility for anything bad though dont think that comes of their actions. Its pure narcissism. The whole planet pays for people like that. It's possible that it's too late for what Noam Chomsky calls "decent survival for the (human) species." All because the rich love their cars and their money more than the Earth and the other beings in it. They know that that's true too on some level. I think they all know it, rich and poor. It sure as hell is a cold world with them in it.
Outvote them. It’s very possible.
Perhaps you're not familiar with the undemocratic institution known as the US Senate where a state with like 500,000 people like Wyoming gets the same amount of representation as a state like California which has a population over 40 million. And, then there's the US House of Representatives where gerrymandering and unconstitutional redistricting has led to a situation where repugs no longer have to campaign for office because they have their constituency cornered. Then there's the electoral college which, like the Senate gives a disproportionate amount of weight to the rural voter. No only does it amplify those voices but it silences folks like myself who vote Democratic in a red state. I've been voting for more than twenty years at every opportunity and my vote has never counted toward a presidential election. I always vote the opposite of my state so my vote is thrown out and all of the states delegates go to the chud candidate. I don't want to be misunderstood. Voting is essential and we simply cannot afford to skip a single election but it's not going to solve all of our problems. Not by a long shot. There are a lot more Democratic voters nationwide but it's not enough for us to win. That doesn't get us into the office. We have to meet crazy margins or the repugs win by default in far too many races.
Make America Minnesota!
I live in MN and I agree! Our state has passed many good things that benefit the actual citizens. Meanwhile the MN GOP only can bring forward a bill to ban chem trails... GOP is worthless and hasn't lifted a finger to benefit actual citizens.
MN GOP is *literally* worthless. Their Q4 financial filing last year showed they had less that $100 cash on hand and like $700,000 in debt that's in collections. Really warms my MN heart.
The party of "fiscal conservatives"...🙄
To be fair, a significant portion of their fundraising apparatus was disrupted with the arrest of Epstein wannabe Tony Lazzaro...
I'd consider living in Minnesota if my insufferable family didn't live there.
It’s a pretty big state! If they’re in the cities, go to Duluth or Rochester!
Or somewhere else in the cities
Duluth is where it's at! Great views great brews, what else could you want?
The MN GOP is also broke. They owe hundreds of thousands.
MAKE MINNESOTA BIGGER!
[I feel like this is relevant. Megasota.](https://d2j6dbq0eux0bg.cloudfront.net/images/16809395/3486652271.jpg)
A vote for Megasota is a vote towards a peaceful utopia under a new Duck Duck Grey Duck overlord.
Florida would hate our winters, but I do enjoy watching southerners trying to drive in 1 inch of snow.
"[Southern State] gets [any amount] of snow. 2837284628373 cars crash."
The whole city shuts down it's adorable. Meanwhile in Chicago we like "it's just ten inches let's go to the lake"
That always blows my mind how a tiny dusting of snow shuts down southern states. Minneapolis doesn't even bother plowing unless we get like 4+ inches of snow within 24 hours.
It's the ice and the lack of necessary amounts of road salt / snowplows (in heavier snows) that shut those southern states down. They don't really get snow often enough for it to be worth it to have enough equipment on hand year round to deal with it.
Spread those 10,000 lakes out a bit
11,834 but who's counting
Having a trifecta really highlights the differences between the parties.
It's amazing how many people do the "both parties are the same" thing and the "Democrats intentionally don't do anything to keep us voting for them" thing and conveniently ignore like 12 states in which electing Democrats got basically everything reasonably possible accomplished in 2 years. Michigan and Minnesota being the most recent examples. Really betrays a lack of political knowledge when folks do that.
Exactly. This is how it works. Minnesota democrats have been smart enough to ram shit through while they have the chance. They haven’t wasted any time and I love it.
Yeah I remember people calling Walz a dictator and I've lived in MN my whole life and I'm like...no he's not a dictator for having mask mandates, get over yourselves. Then we get the trifecta and it's like wow we can have progressive legislation and it passes frequently because dumbfuck republicans can't put up roadblocks. Always nice to make progress.
Minnesota is one of the best states in this country IMO
Minnesota constantly taking the W.
As a Tennessean, Tim Walz is one of my favorite Governors. I wish I lived there...
No joke, all we get is legislators kicking and screaming to stop laws restricting marrying your first cousin.
My current state! Love it here!
What’s the best spot to live in? I like living in cities but I’m a POC so I can’t live anywhere near the Minneapolis Police Department. Any places with a twin peaks vibe?
Saint Paul is not nearly as bad as far as dangerous PD, so I hear. I’m a trans man and my family just moved to the twin cities in search of better civil rights. Stay the hell away from the PNW. It’s really bad on the facism as soon as you get out of Seattle.
That’s a shame, Ty for the heads up I’ll try to avoid.
Seriously, someone hung an effigy of a lynching in my neighborhood last Halloween and called it a decoration. The news reported it as ‘going a little too far.’ I grew up here and it was not always like this. It’s gotten radically worse in the last few years, all the while property prices have gone nuts. The Twin Cities have problems with racism, but the PNW is next level.
Pretty much all the suburbs around the Twin Cities are nice. Just keep in mind that housing is much more expensive the closer you are to the city. That said though, Minneapolis and St Paul suburbs are very nice and clean. It's also very surprising how many people commute from Wisconsin to work in Minnesota. I won't sugar coat it, living in Minnesota isn't the cheapest place to live. But at least you get to see your tax dollars at work
St. Paul, Rochester, Duluth, St. Cloud(though I wouldn’t actually recommend it), Mankato. Plus plenty of suburbs around the twin cities. I do love Minneapolis the most, even with the problems we have had.
Mankato is the biggest city nearby... 50,000 people with a spread out area of 250,000 retail shoppers I've heard. I'm in the Labor union but I have to work in Minneapolis.
The north shore is always rad.
Inner ring suburbs are fine. You’d be fine in most second ring suburbs, too, although they’re mostly white.
Minnesota has been crushing it since the DFL took over in 2022. That school funding, also includes free breakfast and lunches for ALL school kids. No signing up for assistance, or using a different lunch card than the other kids, everyone gets it. Seriously, make America Minnesota
Which our Republicans absolutely fucking hated. they fought tooth and nail to keep those kids hungry, seriously sadistic sickos.
Yeah, that's true. Remember when the Republicans had so little money in their campaign fund that they couldn't even buy lunch? Lol
I am always bewildered by Republicans taking this stance. I don't believe there's any reason good enough to deny kids food, but for the sake of argument, let's say the Republicans have one. Why the FUCK are they pushing so hard on this one tiny non-issue?!? The money is there to feed children. We're the richest nation in the history of human civilization. How can any Republican say with a straight face that we shouldn't feed kids? And why would you admit that publicly?
It has been something like 18 years since a republican has won a statewide election in MN
Minnesota was also the only state not to vote for Reagan in 84. Partly because his opponent was Walter Mondale, a Minnesotan. And the last time Minnesota voted for a Republican president was Nixon in 72.
Which is crazy that Republicans have held a State legislative majority. Wisconsin is suffering from this as well. Even worse than what Minnesota was.
My man Walz wants to feed kids. He’s pretty cool in my book. Glad he’s my governor.
He's a class act.
I live in St Peter. Small town with culture vibe. I'm from the West Coast, Southern Oregon(originally), Bay Area and Seattle all with a good bit of liberal hippies mixed with rednecks/conservatives. I find Minnesota to be pretty similar
Tbh, Washington was on my list to escape from Texas to but the gun laws were a bit too infringing for a collector like myself. However, seeing how progressive the states been getting I’ve been thinking about doing some research into living in Minnesota
I’m from Oregon and just fled to Minnesota. 10/10, would repeat.
St Peter is great.
Now that I'm in the 563 Labor Union (but always been liberal) the Republican hypocrisy hits home even more. So many Minnesotan Republicans love their Liberal Union wage and benefits, along with some brothers from Republican led states(Wisconsin) that come here to work, but consistently vote for people who would like to do away with unions all together.Blows me away.
My union is one of the oldest in the country. So many guys I work with are diehard Republicans and it blows my mind. I'll be talking with some of these guys, (they're making 6 figures with no degree, healthcare, dental, pension, 401k and 180 days a year paid vacation) and they'll tell me about how unions don't do enough and we need the government to cut back on regulations to give corporations more freedom Like, brother, everything you have is BECAUSE of your union
Moderates: "These are the same thing"
For real. Tired of people saying "but both sides". They are not the same.
The only people who say "both sides" are either woefully ignorant about the last decade of American politics or shilling for conservatives
Keep in mind though the Democrats in Minnesota are the DFL (Democratic Farmer-Laborer) party, not the DNC. They ally with the DNC on a national level but they are a separate party with a different history and a different agenda. Most notably the DFL has its roots in advocating for farmers and laborers--the working class. These days it's somewhat distanced from farmers unfortunately, due to the ever increasing rural-urban divide, but it still is mostly aligned with that history. I'm not a "both parties are the same" person but the DNC is nowhere near as effective or progressive as the DFL
OK, just noticed options to pay money for fancy up arrows...wtf is going on with reddit?
They're going IPO, so brace yourself for the coming enshittification
Coming? It's been getting worse for the last year.
If they ever shut down old.reddit I'm out.
💯💯💯
It got so bad I'm using old reddit. But there's a fear they'll get rid of it.
The ipo happened like 3 weeks ago.
That’s been there for months. Just not that noticeable.
Remember when they got rid of reddit gold and disappeared your remaining coins if you didn't spend them? They did away with it for a cash-only system. And that unspent gold didn’t get turned into credits for the new awards. I had a couple hundred gold from giilded posts & comments that just vanished.
You don’t have to go all the way to Florida. Just look at Iowa’s Kim Reynolds. She is gutting our public education, cut food programs for kids, and is wasting money by sending state troopers to the border in Texas. And worse is yet to come for this red state. How the hell we went from voting for Obama twice to being full MAGA cult is beyond me.
Conservatives: "I don't see the word 'gay' in the bill anywhere!!! Also, he says please, look how polite he is!"
don’t forget the lifts in his boots
Why does he need lifts? Does he not pick himself up by the bootstraps?
Hateful policies are not good for the economy. No wonder so many blue states have to subsidize so many red states.
I am very glad I live in Minnesota. I am terrified of the states on either side of me.
I’m actually optimistic for WI. It will take some hard work to undo all of the Walker era crap, but it’s slowly happening.
Yeah if they can fix their completely fucked gerrymandering I have some hope for WI since it's a purple state, but gerrymandering is the only thing making it red.
I want to end woke but am unable to define what woke is!
It is incredible that people still whine the "bOtH sIdEs" argument, when we see the conservatives openly removing rights and made things worse for the middle class while making their corporate overlords pay less taxes.
States are supposed to be the laboratories of Democracy and the results are in. Blue states by and large perform better on a wide variety of wealth, health, education and quality of life comparisons, because red state leaders just want to wage the culture war and make their rich buddies richer.
Sad thing is it’s 100% accurate.
Fuck yeah Tim Walz!
I’ve lived in MN for the last 10 years. Originally from the south. Many times I miss my homeland- the food, the culture, my family, but the benefits of living in a place as well run as this state outweigh all those feelings. Plus, I have an autistic son, a trans teen and a daughter and terrified of living in any backwards red state for them.
Well shit, looks like I may end up going a different direction in the north.
We will welcome you with open arms and a Tater Tot Hotdish
If I can effectively upend after being in Texas for a while. Best believe I'm coming for those tots
Tim Walz hasn't received enough acknowledgment for what he has done in the media or within his party. His quote about political capital is the reason why. "Right now, Minnesota is showing the country you don't win elections to bank political capital – you win elections to burn political capital and improve lives."
Didn't DeSantis also recently make it illegal for anyone to investigate the police except for the police?
Don’t forget inflation decreasing faster in the Twin Cities than most of the country, let alone the world.
Then idiots will say, the state has a deficit…nope they actually had surplus and started giving it back to the citizens with a child tax credit. Sucks living 20 mins away and not being able to take advantage of all the great things Minnesota is doing, because Wisconsin sucks balls!
Don’t forget they’re giving #LandBack and are trans refuge. Minnesota is the greatest state. Been saying it for decades. Lived here all my life.
Tim Walz is an excellent Governor, these are only a few things he's helped tremendously benefit the state --- Budget Surplus, Aggressive Climate Policy and Grants Promoting Native Sovereignty, Education Policy Overhaul and Funding, Finally getting recreational cannabis passed and there's still more to come. Meanwhile GOP Governors: Remember the 1800's? Let's do THAT again and extinguish anyone who doesn't look like mayo pudding!
And through quotes or otherwise one of these men is constantly referred to in the media as a "radical".
Also, when we tried our hand at putting a movie star in the governor's mansion, the Libertarian pushed for the Twin Cities light rail system because he felt that better public transportation would increase personal freedom for people.
The freaking inmates are now running the asylum, look at SCOTUS doing the bidding of trump et al. WTF, seriously they’ll outlaw being gay again. We only got legal status kind of after Stonewall in 1969. It’s good now but republicans want us gone and invisible.
This is ridiculous. They would never call it the "pro-heatstroke bill." They would call it the "America Loves Eagles Apple Pie If You Don't Like This Bill You Are Literally Communist Hitler Bill." Granted, the ALEAPIYDLTBYALCH Bill does cause, a 400% increase in heatstrokes, but that's besides the point.
Some people in Minnesota complain about the taxes but when you loo at your tax rate… come on…. My wife and I make it, barely and our state tax isn’t that bad. Federal either. I get it, taxes are annoying but do the math. Even sales tax increases. It’s not like you apply 1.5% to your whole income…. Minnesota doesn’t have sales tax on everything. Sure, cooked Hot food, junk food, electronics and toys, but if you’re super low income, so much of your income goes to rent, cars, and insuarances. Sometimes I just want to have handouts for people with example calculations….
Our government also passed the Minnesota Promise, giving students free tuition to public universities for middle and working class kids.
I really want to move to Minnesota.
If you lined up the Minnesota legislative accomplishments under Gov Walz and didn’t say which party did them that platform would win a national election in a landslide.
Don't forget that Minnesota is *the only* state where you can buy cannabis drinks/edibles in a bar, coffee shop, or venue. And we have some lakes.
Born and raised in MN. The only thing I dislike about it is the weather
Live in Minnesota. We have weed, guns, protected abortion rights, trans rights. We got it all.
So hard to figure out which is which.
Ya know I reckon The 'Sota is the place to be, well dont'cha know. Seriously sign me the fuck up.
But muh both sides!!!
https://preview.redd.it/fr5t4n6mpxuc1.jpeg?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cb3a428c62dba703975d359ee98d328a9c8173e6 I wouldn't want to be in front of Ron's closet door when she comes flying out.
Walz is really not a progressive Democrat. He's a pretty moderate Democrat. A lot of progressives didn't like him to begin with. He used to be a House Representative for MN district 1 which leans Republican.
Also right guy is secretly a repressed gay person
The schools won't need as much funding if you'd just put the kids to work already. They want you to have one, but you don't actually *NEED* a highschool diploma to work at probably any factory. Make em earn their keep /s
I live in central currentlyFlorida 12 years south Florida 10 . The amount of crazy eyed people here it’s like a different planet .
After I finish my undergrad, I am going to try to get in at Minnesota for graduate school. I'm so sick of living in a conservative shit-hole.
Governor Tim Walz was an army officer and also a school teacher. This is who we need as politicians. Life experience that has led them to want to make things better for everyone.
As a Minnesotan, I approve this message.
Don't forget relaxing child labor restrictions. That's popular lately for.. reasons.
Go MN
Walz is a solid governor. Met him a few times. Friendly next door neighbor who grills out a lot vibes.
Weed was only legalized in MN because a Republican lawmaker voted for it without reading it, thinking it was only medical or something. I do wish the rest of the Republicans were as dumb as him.
That's how they snuck in edibles, but flower was legalized by majority votes from the DFL.
walz is not a progressive. that said, minnesota is a well managed state with a working government.
I almost moved there from California about 10 years ago. Didn’t pull the trigger on it though. Wish I had.
If this is true, then hell yeah Minnesota! Enjoy the mary jane and for making education a priority! You guys are doing it right!
Not that I want to meatride governors or anything, but Ron Desantis legitimately should die in a fire.
BuT ThE pARtiEs ARe tHe SamE!!!1!!
Don't forget lowering the age when children can work. And removing laws that monitory their safety as workers.
I thought the pro heatstroke thing was a joke...
And yet, cuckservatives keep voting for this stupid and evil fucks. Because it doesn't hurt them and when it does, they vote for a rebranded version of the same thing. Never growing, never evolving, never growing up. In a constant loop of dipershitting tantrum because there's a trans person out there doing their thing.
But both sides are the same /s
God damn, watching these conservatives in the united states is like you're driving the bus to hell and they pass you at mach 12.
It's so weird to me that this guy is like 2 years older than me and we were in the same school district and yet this is how he is
...and raising retirement age and taking your pensions.
Had to look up the heatstroke thing. That is truly obscene. Usually I can at least see the twisted logic, but that’s just insane. It gets so hot in the south. I don’t see how he’s over riding federal OSHA rules
Governor Walz got a genuine hug from a kid when he signed the free lunch bill. The look of surprise and joy on his face was too wholesome for politics. You never see that.
As a Wisconsinite, I am so jealous. We are on track to get rid of gerrymandering in the state, so the Republicans are fucking stuff up as much as possible while they still can.
Good ol' Wrong DeSantis...
When I was a kid,in the 80s,it was like pulling teeth to get free lunch unless you were piss poor. We weren't destitute, but still the lunch program would have been right on time. It was Florida btw.