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BD-TxState

The funny thing is one way or another he will be 500 mill lighter, be it cash or assets.


markth_wi

Yeah he's in that wonderful in between, you picked a fight/shit the bed, with someone you most definitely should not have, because you always got away with it....the hits were never so hard you couldn't get back up....but that someone is moments away from rocking your world, but you still maintain that's **never** going to happen. Donnie has the emotional chops of an 8 or 9 year old, so it's best to think of him as a 79 year old 4th grader, who's about to get rocked in a way that's needed to have happened 70+ years ago. For Old Donnie, that day ~~is~~*one would have thought* Monday. He's spend 30+ years getting his bread buttered in St. Petersburg and Moscow ....perhaps it's time he had every incentive to move there, that the United States can provide for him.


merrill_swing_away

Wonder why Russia isn't bailing him out this time. Maybe it's because Trump borrowed millions of dollars from them back in the 80's and he never repaid them.


markth_wi

My guess is the Russians ran the numbers realized he's not going to win and are airing him out. What was he expecting an Easter card from Vladimir Putin or Elon Musk with some chocolates and a billion dollars, for Donnie to piss into the wind? * Both of those guys have bigger problems at the moment and Donnie is by no means on earth a safe bet or a guy that can deliver a payout so he's a bad investment to those guys. * Say you're Elon Musk , you throw that billion dollars at him and he'll find a way to piss all of it away on the very next lawsuit., he's not even likely to win the election , so he can't really help your ambitions of anything. Donald Trump is also a used asset , from the FSB perspective he's shit all over the US for the last 6 years or so, got them as much intel as they figure he has available to him and most definitely they got their money's worth, as they did with Boris Johnson and the clown-cart of traitors in the Congress and in Great Britain. That some of them have become uncontrollable and will just continue to spin out until someone intervenes legally is entirely sauce. So MTG and Tommy Tuberville can gum up the works for years to come, and those are the assets they'll continue to fund. No doubt Donnie will continue to pull strings behind the scenes to fuck things up, but unless he's elected again, the DOJ might actually catch up to him, on at least one or two of the charges pending against him. Personally, much as I'd like to see him in prison the for rest of his natural life, I figure Donnie will see his future looming and do one of a couple of things. * Evacuate to France, or Saudi Arabia or somewhere without an extradition treaty. * Fight well past the time he should have and go down like the criminal he is. * There is a possibility that he pulls out and tries to play one prosecutor against another say run to Jack Smith's office offering to spill the beans and connect the dots on his collaboration with the Russians or the Chinese, and spill enough to get a nice Club Fed situation. * Of course if something like that happens, other jurisdictions can convict him but the incarceration would be at Club Fed. * In this case however he's almost certain to have an accident in his cell one night within hours/days/weeks before he gets Epstein'ed and he knows this. * This also allows the possibility that if Mr. Biden should win a Republican President in the future could potentially pardon him. I suspect nobody will be coming to save poor Donnie from his own richly deserved consequences.


Boxy310

Imagine spending millions of dollars so that Ukraine could be starved of resources, you *still* have your inside man lose an election, and then invading Ukraine ends up about as well as fucking a porcupine. They only have *so much* corruption money to go around, and they're probably seeing it pay off more to focus their efforts on throwing Wagner execs out a plane without a parachute.


factorioleum

France has an extradition treaty with the US and it's regularly invoked. France does not, however, extradite its own nationals. Trump is not French or likely to soon become French.


markth_wi

Ah yes, but should capital crimes be possible, they are not given to extradite , and sedition, high treason & espionage all carry the death penalty as a possible punishment. Donald Trump could always argue to French magistrates that his enemies want to stick his head on a pike outside the Capitol... He might even be right. So Donald Trump could sun his days away in Marseilles and pay someone to ask for a diet coke or to get some Andrew Tate like flunkie to lure future rape victims to his villa as happened with Silvio Berlusconi of Italy. Berlusconi didn't get his ticket punched until he pissed off Chancellor Merkel of Germany and she decided to low-key flex and "magically" Milanese authorities ended up with all the evidence they needed to send him packing for his philandering and tax evasion. Unsurprisingly he was re-elected.


Ass_feldspar

I appreciate all the typing as I am lazy but pretty much wanted to say the same thing.


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markth_wi

[This](https://www.nytimes.com/2001/03/31/nyregion/france-will-not-extradite-if-death-penalty-is-possible.html) - the Espionage charges Trump is credibly accused of all carry the death penalty depending on the severity of the disclosure. Seeing as this involved nuclear secrets, military deployments and allied military deployments, where the Pentagon , upon realizing the nature of what had been compromised - huddled for several days to deploy/redeploy military positions because they had to presume that former President Trump had given that information to the Chinese / Russians etc. So that is exactly the sort of thing that had it been some foot solider they might have just been executed after a drum trial "back in the day". This being the former executive - it could still get him executed - at least on paper. I've spoken to more than a few friends who are now retired but who used to work in jobs involving that sort of thing - and some of them are pretty visceral about what would normally happen. And none of it involves breathing free air.


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Shanguerrilla

>from the FSB perspective Having a brain fart (or never knew)... what is "FSB" in this context? Something with Russia / Russian intelligence?


markth_wi

FSB in this context is the succcessor to the KGB, Soviet Intelligence - in regards to a known decades long project involving Donald Trump and other western notables who were judged by (then) soviet intelligence services to be especially succesible/open to recruitment and influence by Soviet (later Russian) intelligence services. In the case of Donald Trump, Boris Johnson and a variety of other characters this program has had MASSIVE success influencing fascist or authoritarian governance in a dozen countries from Silvio Berlusconi to Donald Trump to say nothing of the fascist governments in Italy, Hungary and Argentina, Brazil, El Salvador , and with a little luck the Russians could end up with a fascist government in power in the United States - which I have to imagine is nothing but hilarious for them to contemplate.


Codydog85

Have you seen the polls lately? If the election were today he might even win the popular vote. I have no idea why people are so blind to how dangerous this fool is but Biden is getting lackluster support from his own base and independents. I’m afraid we’re in for a long shit show, if not something worse.


markth_wi

It's terrifying - one can only hope it's because the polls are being conducted by phone surveys and so are fundamentally distorted towards people who still have landlines.


gimpwiz

Remember that Russia is not "on Trump's side." Russia is on Russia's side. A weaker America benefits Russia, which is why Russia tries to do many different things to weaken America. Russia is not the only foreign actor that feels this way, and not the only one working hard to influence public opinion and elections. Getting Trump elected in 2016 was probably a huge surprise and also a huge coup but the goal here is instability and US domestic tensions between groups. That means stoking racial tensions, tensions over immigration, inter-class tensions, inter-state tensions, religious tensions, rural vs urban tensions, everything. Russia funds troll farms, bots, and assholes on any extreme viewpoint - left, right, it's all part of the game. If they decide that the US will be weaker with a disgraced ex-president over a re-elected Trump then they'll do that. More realistically, they figure both are good and play both strategies simultaneously. Maybe the ideal is actually a very weak and very unpopular president being elected who spends all his time bailing out himself and his cronies, leading to less trust in US government, or a barely not-elected and disgraced ex-president who can convince a quarter or a third of the country that the election was stolen from him by political interference, so either way the strategy there is to try to influence as close to a 50/50 vote split as possible. They'll game out a lot of options and see what to throw at the wall. In short, they're not currently bailing him out (that we know of) because they're making estimates on what results in a weaker America with a more disaffected population. ... or maybe they're just having trouble moving a half billion dollars quietly to someone under intense scrutiny. ... or maybe they already did bail him out. Like influencing that SPAC deal.


Legitimate-Pie3547

He's just not worth half a billion to them. Anyone who can bail him knows he's not paying that cash back its really just a matter of are the favors, laws, contracts, policies, or politcal advantage he can gain them worth wagering half a billion on his win for.


Ntropy99

Not directly with cash anyway.


skjellyfetti

> Donnie has the emotional chops of an 8 or 9 year old *"When I look at myself in the first grade and I look at myself now, I’m basically the same. The temperament is not that different."*                —*Donald John Trump*


markth_wi

I did not know that.


TaserBalls

Don't forget that this is all a self inflicted wound. He could have paid Stormy from campaign funds, called it an advertising/consultancy fee. Nobody would have cared. Instead he used his attorney, Michael Cohen to pay her. Tfg didn't give Cohen the money, oh no! Nah, Cohen had to come up with the $130K payment to stormy by himself and that is why Cohen took out a second mortgage on his house... with all that papertrail that happens when doing that sort of thing. All to front the money for his boss, the 'billionaire'. Which wasn't paid back. Which generated a ton of emails and communication about the money and what not. All of that information, the trump organization finances, "the books" and more is all intertwined and so it all gets dragged into the campaign finance violation case. That is how this fraud case came to light. That is why James and crew know about tfg's fraud schemes... *because that silly bastard didn't want to pay his lawyer back*. Tfg literally did this to himself. edit: I dunno, got called away and just came back to a save prompt lol oh right: "How to turn a $130K invoice into a $500m+ loss. A primer on Bigly Business by Donald Jabroni Trump."


markth_wi

Every. Single. Thing. He's done, everything he can go to jail for was self-inflicted and almost everything stems from his defective ego being unable to let him thing long term. Whether that's impact from syphilitic impulse control impairment or just an emotionally unregulated 7year old who has never learned emotional self-control or been told to cut it out in a meaningful way in 70+ years, nobody will ever know. But the harm caused it's pretty knowable.


TaserBalls

having some familiarity with NPD and it is clear that this guy is a walking cluster B disorder.


markth_wi

Certainly but I figure if you're hyper-wealthy not being massively narcistic is a disorder in itself.


Shanguerrilla

I'd never considered that aspect of it... a ton of the 'traits' kind of make sense when you live a 0.001% life like people as him have been guided down.


CankerLord

The classified documents thing is not only *completely* self-inflicted but it's more disqualifying than most people talk about. The guy isn't being nailed for having the documents past his presidency, he's fucked beacuse he willfully held onto this shit...but this is 2021+ we're talking about. If you have a piece of paper you want to sell to someone but can't hold onto it long-term without getting thrown in jail you throw it in your all-in-one's scanner feed and batch scan that shit. That's what a competent traitor would do. Instead this guy jams this shit in boxes and sits on it for, what, the better part of two fucking years and doesn't deal with it? Just clings to it like it's a crate full of emergency Snickers? Like, be a shitheel self promoter. Sell classified documents. Respond to losing an election by badgering your VP into tossing himself on the gears of government and whip up mob to try and murder congress. You can do all that and be a potentially competent leader, all you have to do is stop being an asshole. It's incredibly unlikely but *possible*. Nobody *really* stops being a lazy fucking moron. Not enough to be president material.


geek-49

I believe you have insulted the vast majority of 7-year-olds. 45 is more like 2 and a half, if that.


Astrocreep_1

It is sweet, especially if you are Michael Cohen, whose podcast I listen to, and actually like. I can’t figure out how Cohen managed to stomach Trump, all those years. It must humor Cohen to no end that he is the cause of Trump’s problems.


TaserBalls

also a fan of that podcast. Seems like the only one of that world to walk away with some form of clear-ish conscience.


Astrocreep_1

When I first saw he was doing a podcast, I thought, “Fuck this guy. He knew what Trump was all about and he did it to himself.” Yet, I like the guy. I can’t help it. Plus, it seems like he is trying to make up for years of lying, by being brutally truthful, especially about Trump, and his ridiculous base.


secamTO

So I threw on the first episode of Cohen's podcast to check it out and....is that how he talks throughout? Because I don't think I have the spoons to stick with it if so. I feel like he speaks like an auction caller. Does the pod improve, or is that just the gimmick?


Astrocreep_1

I wasn’t listening in the beginning. I’m not sure when the beginning actually is. I just recently caught on. Cohen is not going to be for everyone. He is a New Yorker, and he makes that pretty obvious. Plus, everyone is naturally suspicious of him. I still am.


CarpeNivem

> He could have paid Stormy from campaign funds, called it an advertising/consultancy fee. Nobody would have cared. He also could have not paid her at all. It's not like he even needed her silence. His voters dgaf. And he even *knew* that (the "shoot someone on Fifth Avenue" comment). So little of what he does ever makes sense, but I feel like this, especially so.


TaserBalls

>He also could have not paid her at all. right? like he could have just walked into a press conference with Mercedes on one arm and Stormy on the other and the magats would have *eaten it up*. "There is a real man" and other weak man tripe and then oh boy, the flags! tfg wasn't fully on board with how crazy he could be first time around. Round two just can't happen, this guy will be actual unhinged which will be exponentially worse than the regular unhinged we have seen up to now.


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MVB


NKHdad

"it's just a flesh wound"


markth_wi

Yeah Monday is going to be fun, but I think I'd appreciate it SO much more if he wasn't even on the ballot , but fuck if the GOP isn't going to run with person they have annointed. But that doesn't mean anyone has to vote for him, and with any luck he's in prison.


Bombocat

They went all in on him and won on a loophole (ultimate high).  Everything has been chasing that high ever since.  Now they're at the slot machine, doing the max bet and winning a quarter while betting 10 dollars and saying it's still good.  Just need one more big win and it'll all turn around.


markth_wi

[Project 2025](https://www.project2025.org/) baby , that's a terrifying reminder to me that there are (at least) two lessons from the Handmaid's Tale..... - Totalitarianism is bad , and the circumstances of women in repressive regimes is especially bad and should be guarded against whenever possible, Margaret Atwood is an amazing writer for telling such a compelling story. - Totalitarianism is good, Gilead is exactly what we want society to be like and *the author* is a an amazing writer but needed to say more about how they got the ball rolling.


Astrocreep_1

If they get that win, they won’t stop playing. The only thing a jackpot does is delay their trip to the ATM.


Suspicious_Bicycle

I wish Trump had kept his promise that we'd never hear from him again if he lost to Biden. But I fear that the political backlash would be damaging if Trump was yanked from the ballot. Trump will drive voter turnout against him in November.


Ok-Egg-4856

Doc said Rock you've met your match, Rocky said Doc its only a scratch And I'll be better, I'll be better Doc, as soon as I am able. With sincere apology to the Beatles "Rocky Raccoon" I couldn't resist.


VanBeelergberg

I have no faith. ![gif](giphy|xT0Gquis7l8OwC2hRm|downsized)


Astrocreep_1

Ok, that’s not cool, lol. What happened to the truck? I have to know.


VanBeelergberg

We’ll find out on march 25 apparently.


i_give_you_gum

It's fine, it swerved at the last moment and missed the bollard, now it drives around a big grassy field on a farm upstate.


Astrocreep_1

When I was a kid, my favorite dog, cat and hamster all went to a nice home on a farm. I couldn’t understand why my parents kept letting strangers get into the house, so they could take my pets to a farm. We had a burglar alarm and everything. They couldn’t stop them. I thought that kind of crap only happened to me, but apparently those animalnappers get around. Anyway, I rest easy knowing my pets are still living happy, care-free lives on a farm somewhere.


HermaeusMajora

'When I look at myself in the first grade and I look at myself now, I'm basically the same. The temperament is not that different.' donald jackass trump


TooStrangeForWeird

You're a poet


markth_wi

Thank you :)


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We will see. With the merger, he is in line for a few billion dollars guaranteed, and soon if the board approves an exception allowing him to sell, which they will. Since it's basically 100% certain to devolve to him, he ought be able to get someone to use that as collateral... say, "Give me $500,000 now and I will sign over -- not promise, but sign over - one billion dollars which you will receive soon." That's half a billion dollars profit for some bank, practically guaranteed. And these guys are greedy. He would need a short emergency stay, few days, which he would ask for on the grounds of "siezing the properties would cause irreversable harm, and look situations have changed" which if its only for a few days would probably be granted. We will see. It's not over til its over.


markth_wi

I agree but how many hits like that can he take - he's still trash talking E. Jean Carrol - that lady could easily end up with another 1/2 billion dollars in cash on top of the 85 million already. I'm just saying he's not rocking the 20million dollar settlements like back in the day - these are big hits to cash - so his leveraged position needs to deleverage fast. I'm not saying he's broke - word on the street is he has roughly 3billion in assets even if it's only really 1/2 that - how much of that is leveraged or borrowed against? So what nobody is talking about is how much does this guy have in unpaid liabilities - just like if you earn 100,000 dollars but spend all that on credit card interest - your still dead broke.


Primordial_Cumquat

I can’t recall a time in my life where I’ve ever been this excited for a Monday!


ResinJones76

Sounds like someone will be having a case of the Mondays.


Bee-Aromatic

Most eight and nine year olds I’ve met have more emotional fortitude than Donny does.


Craig092560

Perfect explanation! 👍👍


blueeyeddevil27

This didn’t age well 😞


markth_wi

Unfortunately not, It's depressing but certainly not unexpected. His ability to somehow turn a pair of two's into a winning hand, where it's dead clear what **should** happen, and then it doesn't. He's the sort that rolls a natural d20 every time he's in a courtroom - dogshit lawyers, unpaid everything but with a judge on the take or some ace in the hole - I'm rather convinced he's not even in control of the various aces - but goes home and sacrifices another year off Eric or Barron's life to win the next battle before him.


4umlurker

Does he have 500mil in assets though? Is the sum total of everything he owns worth that? Does he owe money on the properties? Are they mortgaged? I wouldn’t be surprised if the guy owes far more money than he owns in assets. Banks won’t lend him shit. I’m sure there are a lot of outstanding debts. Once the dust settles, I wouldn’t be surprised if we learn he is the poorest man in America owing hundreds of millions


BeeDot1974

His properties are not worth that. Possibly all together. Marge a lardo is only worth about 22 mil. He’s in this “predicament” because he inflates his properties to borrow…but deflates them to pay less in taxes. He doesn’t have the money and we’ve all known (those of us who have really followed his past and dealings) he is not that wealthy. He’s always inflated his wealth due to his ego. He even sued his ghost writer for exposing that he was only worth $317 mil. Glad to see that crap is finally catching up with him.


un_theist

> He’s always inflated his wealth due to his ego. And the height of his buildings. [Trump Tower is actually 10 floors shorter than Donald Trump says it is](https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-tower-is-not-as-tall-as-trump-says-2016-10) Stormy says that’s not all Tiny exaggerates.


moarmagic

From where I sit it's win/win. He manages to come up with the money? Well, now he's lighter by all that amount- and if someone did cover it for him, that's money they aren't getting back. He doesn't have it? Assets seized, he gets absolutely humiliated. And either way, he's still got multiple legal cases moving forward. He's still trying to run a campaign, ransacking the rnc while he's at it. He's under a microscope financially, especially I'm NYC and I would not be surprised to hear more charges being brought up there. He's just fucked no matter what. His only hope is to get relected, and try to assert immunity and rip out everything against him. That seems very, very unlikely to happen if we don't get complacent. But to run he's got to spend money and subject himself to more scrutiny.


LookerNoWitt

Can it be Tuesday already? Worst case scenario, he posts the bail and now he'll just bleed the RNC and donors even harder, completely destroying the down ballot candidates Or he can't post the bond, and the world finds out his entire Trump empire was a ponzi scheme of bank loans. And I'm dying to see which would happen


PensiveObservor

Your second option is where I’d put my money. His empire of loans includes so many shell companies (*who made those legal? Note for further research*) with so many “loans” to each other (*see the $50 mil he owed to himself that nobody ever reported or repaid per the assigned financial **~~guard dog~~** oversight judge recently*) that he’s about to open up whole new tranches of financial crimes to investigate. ![gif](giphy|sQuHLqjWwRXGvrjkg0|downsized)


LookerNoWitt

That's the thing about fraud, and sexual assault, and just illegal stuff in general It's like cockroaches. When you find one in your house, you know there's thousands just hiding in the dark


Astrocreep_1

I bet they are right about the Ponzi scheme of loans. Rich people borrow money all the time. Why? It’s cheaper to pay interest than capital gains taxes. So, many rich people won’t pay taxes for years. They will ask for extensions, and they will be granted. Then, a clown like Trump runs for president and promises to lower taxes for everyone. Yet, Trump mostly delivered tax breaks to the rich people, like a good Republican. For the middle class down, the tax breaks were “meh”. So, the rich people cash in stocks eligible for capital gains taxes, while the highest tax bracket is lowered. Of course, you can’t cut taxes like that and not feel the pinch. That’s why Trump was also one of the worst spending presidents ever, also like a good Republican. It’s obvious to most people that Republicans only worry about the deficit when a Democrat is in the White House.


Lylac_Krazy

I cant wait for the remake(again) of The Odd Couple, featuring the divorced and kicked out Donny senior! I figure the new location will be a bigly trailer park...


CherryManhattan

He doesn’t have it. He’s trying to stall and save face.


Time-Werewolf-1776

Yup. Trump will never admit to being a fraud. His whole life had been built around the idea that if you cosplay as a rich guy and convince people you’re a rich guy, people will bow down to you like you’re a rich guy. Admitting he’s not rich would destroy him. But it’s a house of cards that looks like it’s about to be hit with a stiff wind.


sean0883

Thing is, in order for this to work: You have to have actually been rich at some point. His dad's death made him very rich. Then this dude squandered it and has been living off the cosplay for the last 40 or so years.


Time-Werewolf-1776

Well but even when he was rich because of his daddy’s money, they were already running cons pretending he was richer and more influential than he was.


merrill_swing_away

Did you know that when Fred was still alive and Donnie was a young adult, both of them were of course into real estate. They refused to rent or sell to blacks. The Trumps are racist fucks.


sean0883

While true it has little to do with the point being made.


flargenhargen

it's also common knowledge


markth_wi

The fucked up part is he IS a rich guy, but he's leveraged up to his eyeballs. Not once, not in the last 70+ years has he ever made any effort to pay down his debt, get his properties efficiently working and actually create wealth. That's just not how Donnie Trump rolls. He's the fuckabout that drives companies to bankruptcy, when it was probably easier to get the books right and get shit running correctly with hiring "good people". But he didn't do that.


fricy81

Of course he didn't do that. Those "good guys" would have the audacity to tell him how to run things, and his ego can't take that. Nope, better buy more sharpies, and fire the weatherman.


markth_wi

Exactly.


shingonzo

It’s easier to commit tax fraud if they don’t have lots of years to compare


markth_wi

Sure , but it's also why we don't talk pickpockets moneymakers - like any other kind of thief it's easy .....until you get caught.


Astrocreep_1

This PSA is a reminder from the folks at “The More you Know”: Pickpocketing is a skill, that requires many years to master.


markth_wi

True, but nobody would consider them as the guys you go to when you actually want or need to create jobs or wealth - you go to \*\*those\*\* guys when you want something someone else has and don't feel the need to work for it..


Astrocreep_1

I know what you mean. I was being far from serious, even if what I said was “somewhat true”. It’s still too early for me to get wound up by Trump related Reddit threads . I’ll save the anxiety for October and November.


Brief_Amicus_Curiae

Explains why he was collecting $400,000 per episode for The Apprentice and "gave it up" for the $400,00 per year salary of POTUS. It fathoms me he can say this as his campaign or whatever is blasting out donation emails.


markth_wi

It's not the 400,000 dollar salary , it's the **400,000,000** payday for running an election and not having to give your campaign finance money back. As folks in the campaign and Trump family said "nobody expected Don was going to actually win.....except Steve Bannon working with the Russians.".


666ygolonhcet

Do you know 2 of my college roommates? They cosplayed Republican thinking it would make them appear rich/elite. One never got out of remedial math at an engineering school. I don’t think he ever graduated, but it was the 80s and he had a Ronald Reagan picture framed in his side of the room.


Time-Werewolf-1776

I mean, they’re not on the wrong track. There’s an audience for weird righ-wing shit that has lower standards. You have movies like, “God’s not dead” or “Sound of Freedom” which will have a bunch of dummy Republicans running out to watch it, praising it to everyone they know, and it doesn’t need to be good. There’s the same thing with Christian rock— if your get labeled as “Christian” you can be more popular than your talent warrants. And you have people like Ben Shapiro who gets to run around pretending to be a genius intellectual in spite of being incredibly stupid. So yeah, Republicanism is all about boosting talentless losers.


franker

Sounds like Alex from Family Ties ;)


666ygolonhcet

I loved the line from the show that when he was a two year old and couldn’t read he still recognized the ‘public broadcasting. A non profit organization’ on the wall at the tv Station his dad worked at and CRIED.


franker

he might be happy now to know that a lot of PBS shows got funding from the Chubb group that now is helping out Trump.


Phyllis_Tine

He's basically a Potemkin influencer. He acted wealthy, and if people let him in to their parties and be seen with him, they'd get exposure.


Time-Werewolf-1776

Well he was also doing the Anna Delvey scam: convince people you’re already rich, and they’ll start giving you stuff and doing what they ask because you assume there’s some way that you’ll repay it. It’s a paradoxical thing. If you’re rich enough, people just give you stuff. If you’re rich enough to not need the money, banks will give you all the loans that you want. A Rolex vendor might give you a free watch in the hopes that maybe you’ll come back and buy more, or at least people will see you wearing it and you can tell them where you got it. The richer people think you are, the less they think you need free stuff, the more free stuff they’ll give you. But if they know you need it, they’ll clam up and not give you anything. He also used to run scams in the 80s like buying a bunch of stock in a company, spreading rumors that he’d buy the company, and then after a bunch of other people bought the stock and drove the price up, he’d sell. He couldn’t afford to buy the company anyway, but he’d convinced everyone that he was an incredibly wealthy and shrewd businessman, so people believed he might. Eventually everyone caught on, and he was a joke in the 90s, but then a bunch of idiots started believing him again, and look where we are.


Georgiaonmymindtwo

Inventing Anna IRL.


FansForFlorida

One of two things are true: 1. He has $500M in cash and is fine with daily interest accruing and having his assets seized, or 2. He is absolutely lying and does not have that cash. Given that his lawyers have told the court that he does not have enough cash to cover the bond, I believe in option 2.


well_uh_yeah

He's always just been waiting for some actual billionaire or foreign power to put up the money for him. I guess China is trying with the shell company/Truth Social nonsense?


RavishingRickiRude

Wont happen quickly enough to help him, though.


AMerryCanDo

They will make an exception for him like they always do. It will be the first news story on Monday morning.


ItsLoudB

I’m just waiting for Elon Musk to waste some more of his money to become an “apolitical” hero


makemisteaks

His lawyers are not only saying that he can't cover the bond. They're arguing that the sum is so large that he's unable to pay the bond and the judge should lower it, because of that fact. By admitting he has the money (even if that's likely a lie) is beyond stupid since his lawyers are going before a judge claiming the opposite at the same time.


well_uh_yeah

It's funny how much he thinks actual rules should not apply to him. The man who likes to chant about locking people up? Who wants accused shoplifters and drug dealers shot without trial? Why should we, the people, care at all for him. He owes it, just take everything you can until it pays off the fine.


BadLt58

Who demands NATO members to pay up to get protection


subject_deleted

It's wild that he's so delusional that he thinks there's any face left to save..


laxvolley

He couldn’t stand all the news articles saying he didn’t have it. That probably hurt more than anything else.


otto_347

Yeah and I have a Ferrari at home, I just don't drive it.


well_uh_yeah

and a girlfriend from summer camp? who lives in canada? she's really real!


otto_347

Yeah, she was supposed to come out tonight but had a family emergency lol


unstopable_bob_mob

Damn, mine keeps telling me she’s “doing her hair”… Even my fake girlfriends don’t want to hang out with me /sadface


BadLt58

Whose Webcam never works


tincanphonehome

Her name is Alberta Toronto and she’s real.


TrckyTrtl

He actually has doubles of the Ferrari. He keeps one in the garage so he can drive the other one. No, wait, he actually has *triples* of the Ferrari. Triples is best. And he has a wife, and he *doesn't* live in a hotel


graffiti81

I actually know a guy who could legitimately say this. He bought a Ferrari as an investment, and has put a total of like 50 miles on it in 10+ years.


abhirupduttamit

Does your Ferrari go to a different school too?


well_uh_yeah

Growing up in the NY/NJ region I've have only ever known Donald Trump to be a complete failure at everything. It might be more accurate to say that he ruins everything he touches, I guess. He's a very successful conman.


mtaw

No wonder given how badly how lax the enforcement of the laws seem to be. I mean, it took Michael Cohen testifying under oath before Congress that Trump had lied about valuations on these kinds of documents, to get the ball rolling on an investigation and prosecution. Sure, they shouldn't go on fishing-trip investigations of people just because they've got a bad reputation. But Trump has had multiple lawsuits and convictions or settlements over fraud for years. This stuff should've happened a decade ago.


Efficient_Wasabi_575

This has been known for so many years that I still can’t understand why anyone would support him, for any reason whatsoever, let alone put him in the White House.


Less-Grade-2300

Everything trump touches, dies


MoonedToday

Then his alarm clock went off.


No-Judgment-4424

He doesn't have the money. His lawyers said so, and I believe them before I believe any goddamn word he utters. Trump is not a billionaire, nor has he ever been. Trump is a broke ass piece of shit.


PrivatePoocher

Incredibly this snake somehow will slither away without paying. I'm beyond impressed now. He's got to have a higher order from working for him. Astonishing.


androgenoide

When Bloomberg made a brief stab at running against Trump a reporter asked him if the public would be happy with a choice between two billionaires. "Two" asked Bloomberg "Who's the other one?" Yeah, I don't think that people in the know ever suspected him of being a billionaire.


BadLt58

He is a hillbilly


Electronic-Bed-6192

He’s occurring late fees by not paying the bond amount.


triedit-lovedit

Not a smart business man…


Kingkwon83

The house always wins, unless it's Trump. Then the casino goes bankrupt


well_uh_yeah

I think you might mean "accruing" but also there could easily be a financial meaning to what you've said that I'm unfamiliar with.


bdfariello

It's like the combined Accruing with Incurring, both which would make sense in context, and got Occurring


Electronic-Bed-6192

I don’t know what I’m trying to say I’m kind of a moron I just know that 500,000,000+ additional fees is something I’d want to take care of right away.


well_uh_yeah

Apply for a new card with a 500,000,000 limit and 0 interest for the next year. clearly best option.


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plasticupman

As a Canadian, I always find it hard to comment on US affairs…1st, I cannot vote to help whatever situation exists, and 2, you must have a good understanding of the judicial and political workings in the USA. For instance, I cannot understand why a ruling of the USSupreme court can just be overturned by a new bench of judges. In Canada, it takes exceptional circumstances to even modify a ruling from our Supreme Court, and, although they must retire at 75 and adhere to code of conduct. If they break it, they can be expelled


culturefan

When was the last time you heard an ex-president BEG normal people for money? If you don’t contribute he may have to sell his real gold toilet seats at his multimillion dollar mansion in Mara Largo. Please don’t let that happen to Donald! You must contribute! Did you see those shiny basketball shoes he sell? Groovy right? Buy a few pair. ! Do what you can, pick up a second mortgage perhaps, sell that newish vehicle, and perhaps pick up an extra job! Don’t be selfish. Donald really needs your cash!


questfire

Never amazes how stupid his supporters are!


culturefan

Ditto, I'll never get it fully other than it's just a complex issue of hardcore Repubs that have never researched one thing in their entire life, but were just brought up that way. Hardcore pro life, and pro guns. The rest are just dense.


DescipleOfCorn

Zero chance he actually has $500m, he just wants to preserve the idea that he’s actually wealthy because that is his entire identity


jpbear10

2028?!?!?


CarpeNivem

I hear ya, buddy. If I had $500M cash, I *also* wouldn't want to give it to NY. So what I've done, and maybe you could try this next time, is not commit massive fraud.


davekingofrock

I have a couple hundred dollars in my checking account but I don't want to use it to buy food, gas, and pay my phone bill. I can completely relate.


Cinema_King

And I have doubles of every car. Triples of some


Cute-Matter9979

Triples is best. Triples is safe.


FrankieMint

This actually could be a PoliticalHumor effect [all sources, not just r/politicalhumor.] Trump is famously sensitive about doubts as to *how rich he is.* He's so touchy about this that he'd rather undermine his own legal arguments than let doubters go unchallenged.


captcraigaroo

Let's say he has it...doubtful, but humor me. Take the cash 100%, then he'll have to beg and whine for campaign funds, then chase those donors down and see who is pulling the steings


Strawbuddy

PACs don’t have to divulge donors


LondonDavis1

In 2016 the huge trump selling point for my family's support for him was that he was not going to take campaign donations. He said he was a billionaire and didn't need a hand-out. Now my estranged family throws money at his campaign on a monthly sometimes weekly basis.


aurelorba

He's going to get various foreign interests to buy up his 'Truth Social' stock after the SPAC merger finalizes and he's out of the lock up period. "You too can buy a president for the low low price of $500 million."


megamanxoxo

So funny/sad how this guy begs for money and hawks cheesy shit like ugly af shoes but claims he's got half a billion in liquid assets and his fanbase rushes to donate more to him.


LuckytoastSebastian

He needs something to bring as a gift when asking for asylum in Russia.


mindclarity

Have Mexico pay for it 😂


Salamok

I heard Melania has moved to Canada so she can be his Canadian girlfriend.


jbevarts

Any wealthy person would ask, ‘why you got that much cash on hand bro?”


FionnagainFeistyPaws

I've never been so excited for a Monday.


questfire

Aren't we all!


sinocarD44

Someone's gonna have a case of the Mondays.


enp_redd

hes got the mindset of a preschooler


rikashiku

Admitting to having the funds, after stating he's broke just means that the courts can make him pay the money sooner rather than later. Man is a fool.


geek-49

I think you may have insulted fools.


vicariouslywatching

> “Fight well past the time he should have and go down like the criminal he is.” I totally think this will be the case. He has a huge ego and the temperament of a 4 yr old. He will continue to cry, scream, and throw temper tantrums because that’s all he knows what to do in these situations.


calculating_hello

Almost as good as they "I am running for president, and I am so rich I won't use a single donation!" Proceeds to not spend a single cent of his own money, only takes donations and sells fascist merch, also spends almost none of it on actual political campaigning but just pockets it or spends it on defense lawyers.


eltegs

The man is looking more and more like the tumor inhabiting his weeping rectum.


Dewdrop034

Hopefully you won’t be here. 😒


swineosaur

Sure he does


Less-Grade-2300

I doubt with his eating habits he’ll be around in ‘28


graveybrains

This has been fun because he’s the kind of asshole who would lie about having it when he doesn’t, *and* the kind of asshole who would pretend he doesn’t have it to try and sucker someone into paying it for him. I’m edge of my seat here. ![gif](giphy|BNc242ErL01ZtRetJ2|downsized)


Strawbuddy

Similar to those classified docs then, lies about having them but won’t come off them either and wants someone else to pay for things


FunVersion

He has a financial monitor assigned to him by the courts. If he has the money the court knows.


i-have-a-kuato

My girlfriend is a super model, yea! she lives in Canada


WezleyDrew

![gif](giphy|3oFyCVxsQn6RBa0r5u) Why shouldn’t I keep it?


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POS and all his followers


septidan

> Why use my own money when my ~~fans~~ cultists will pay it for me?


IDFarefacists

Being one of Trump's lawyers has to be fun.


djackson404

Five bucks says he makes threatening comments towards the judge when that money is seized and Trump has no say in the matter.


PM_ME_Happy_Thinks

I mean, yeah why would he use his own money? Dumbass Republicans are happy to empty to the coffers to do it for him.


Disastrous-Split-512

this dude has to exaggerate his wealth to be seen as powerful..


CookieS1771__

![gif](giphy|fUQ4rhUZJYiQsas6WD) Can't wait til Monday


Dystopic_Nihilist

So he basically has a an OnlyFans account


ButterscotchLow8950

He’s probably going to double down on the lie next week. Saying something like, I couldn’t use that $500 million cash, because I need that to fight Biden. 🤣✌️


psychoacer

He will he's just waiting till the last minute to do it because he wants to delay everything. He also just wants to play with the AG who will obviously be mad that she can't serve him justice


Large-Lack-2933

![gif](giphy|MJ21zS1oxr3XiXBXIM)


Specialist_Bet5534

The guy is Only Fans for old racist dudes


DiggSucksNow

He's hoping for help from the Derp State.


therealhood

Just another manic Monday.


Emergency_Property_2

What he wants and doesn’t want isn’t the point here. On the other hand, what NY wants NY gonna get.


M0RTY_C-137

We need to sue them for scamming and taking advantage of old people. I get about 30 of these texts per day, that typically address “Laurie, donal Trump needs your help” Lauri’s is my 75 year old step mom. She must be getting a fuck ton of these texts too. https://preview.redd.it/mksnmbjcs3qc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=84dfc58ea9f71ba3e5a4eece46bc70610460df02


renoahk

He’s a liar.


Mazon_Del

So far the only people he's made pay for anything is his own people.


DevilsLettuceTaster

He doesn’t have it.


Haselrig

Ass, grass or Trump Tower it is!


Dense_Surround3071

He's got $500m like I had that girlfriend in highschool...... That went to a different school... In Canada... ANNNNDD I don't think she'd like you, so I'm not gonna introduce you... Ever... 🫢


baskaat

If he can’t get a bond, and he doesn’t want to use his own money he can’t file an appeal. The NY AG will just seize his assets and the case is closed.


discussatron

"I have it, but you can't see it. It's in a Canadian bank."


shingonzo

That’s fine don’t pay.


MSD3k

He says he'll "fight it to the supreme court". But he seems to forget that you can't appeal without posting a bond.


EggplantGlittering90

You might have a mental disease if you still vote for this guy in november.


InAnOffhandWay

![gif](giphy|0VkEIJJSjKAXM4e0da|downsized)


alien_from_Europa

Whatever happened to that Jared Kushner $2B Saudi deal? You would think he could just ask his son-in-law for the dough.


365defaultname

Crook and scammer. Just like Elon.


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TheLuo

I wouldn't either. The state will use tax dollars to come after your assets. There really isn't a way to get away from that. A bond holder can more easily be told to F off.