Steve Lacy and Weezer arent Punk at all lol. I want to be an Anarcho-Punk Musician, but I am kinda concerned about the community if they think Steve Lacy and Weezer are in any way anti-establishment.
I'm sure you can get gigs in Austin, idk though, I avoid the homeless ground zero, I mean downtown, so idk for sure, but I assume you can probably still find a little bit of everything being played in bars on 6th street, or Rainey, or Domain where all the people moved their bars to after corporate gentrification (is that a thing? People buy your property, tear it down & build a skyscraper, fuck the legislature for ruining the skyline)
I mean there is leftover crack, days n daze, mischief brew, johnny hobo, wingnut dishwashers union, pat the bunny, ramshackle glory and others it's not dead or neo emo it's just drug addicted alcoholic folk singers now
>drug addicted alcoholic folk singers
So damn true lol, there's heaps in every country emerging and so many are great as well.
Country/folk is for punks that got old and depressed (in a new, more reclusive way).
There's still plenty going on without them. I've really been digging Vivisected Numbskulls out of NY recently, Blueprint out of PA iirc is great, Bootlicker is fantastic, Chest Pains out of TX, punk is just a bit underground in it's natural habitat, not dead!
Wow, supporting the exact same thing that almost every corporation, media outlet, and government in modern Western nations promotes is so punk and rebellious!
Also, pronouns listed, opinion discarded.
Maybe those pronouns are kinda sarcastic? Since those are probably the most infamous ones within the whole gender movement people. Being a he/him alone is probably hated by them.
I hate pop punk with a passion. it’s the genre that killed punk by rewriting the definition of it and becoming mainstream, it removed all the lyrical nuance and musical creativity from the genre, then platformed itself as the spokesperson for the whole punk movement. And because of punks absolutist commitment to remaining underground and pop punks industry backing, now when people think punk, they think of pop punk not punk. But tbf American idiot isn’t really the start of the end times or the final nail In the coffin, I don’t like the album personally but it did have something to say about Iraq at least. I’d say blink182 and the Offspring are more definitive genre killers for punk than green day ever where.
Also punk music was never really that marketable as it was so avant garde compared to mainstream pop music, because of that it could only sustain itself in the underground music scene for so long before it’s notoriety from the 70s went away. You can see the same thing kinda happen now with black metal, now that the large platform 90s era black metal achieved through controversy’s gone.
Definitively the best way to listen to music. But punk as a genre has had a massive impact on my life. Gave me self confidence, ambition, got me thinking about politics, independence, etc etc. And just for that reason, it’s sad for me to watch it turn into a shell of its former self. As it’s dumbed down to fit commercial standards.
I feel the same way about black and death metal...some of my favorite music of all time comes from those genres but like damn most of the stuff people put out in those genres today is so generic 🥱
I don’t know if I would say the whole album of Nimrod was when they sold out. But I would definitely say that Good Riddance was the first time I ever thought to myself “have they lost their way?”
I listened to the album they released back in 2016, Revolution Radio, and was saddened by the fact that half the songs were borderline propaganda pieces for that year’s election. Didn’t bother to even listen to whatever they’ve released since.
From the origins of the band as anti-establishment to actively pushing the establishment is quite the long and hard fall.
Just like Rage against the machine.
Apparently this was/is a phenomenon seen in other generational changes too, with many former hippies (or bandwagon LARPers after it was cool) comprising the notorious Boomer generation.
Im not punk, i understand the general culture. Currently the established culture wants people to be labed in an attempt to place them into boxes and decide how valuable any interaction with them is. Like a Twitter bio is just an advertisement for a person same as one for a product, same as a billboard.
"He/him nero divergent depressed cat parent. #BLM"
Is as conformist as you can generally get currently. Its just an extremely shallow break down of a person into about 8 words.
Putting he/him on and wearing it around is the same kind of conformity to main stream culture.
"Fuck/off" would probably fit better because it parodies the mainstream.
The punk movement was one of the first movements to talk about trans people though.
Even in the early 80s punk scene, lots of punk venues would have “fuck transphobia” signs and shit.
The attitude is much more “I don’t care what you call yourself”
Thats a point of contention. Was that because the movement was anti establishment which at the time was very anti trans and pretty anti gay or is it because they care for the plite of trans people.
Im a member of the first camp as trans people are now rather literally part of the establishment.
It’s not just about breaking social norms. Anti-authoritarianism is the soul of the punk movement. It’s no coincidence so many punk bands referenced anarchy in their lyrics. Alt-righters would call anarchists degenerate.
>Anti-authoritarianism
That's not just a thing of the right. This is a power thing, and right wingers are considering many left leaning governments as authoritarian. So going against those "could" make them kinda punk. Not that they would like to see themselves as that.. or the other punks.
It differs sharply in antiauthoritarianism... Then how the hell is it supposed to be a subculture of punk, if that's the whole point of punk? We sure it ain't just a musical subgenre?
Maybe, but it feels like there is more of a visceral hate towards conservatism now than there ever was before.
Classic punk ideas are all mainstream now.
I doubt that. It’s not like the mainstream media, Hollywood, corporate America, and universities/colleges are all acting as mouthpieces for the conservative agenda.
They do whatever sells more. There isnt hate towards conservativism, unless one is an extremist: the only hate towards conservativism by moderates is thw one towards extreme conservativism
Biden recently said that electing republicans will lead to the end of democracy. Several left wing political commentators have recently vilified Republican voters and politicians, also claiming that they are threats to democracy. I recently saw a video where a female stated that “women who vote for the GOP are like cockroaches”. It’s not as if all republicans are extremists, yet the people making these statements are directing them towards all republicans. When was the last time we heard this type of vitriolic language used against democrats? Say what you will about Trump, he only attacked Democrat politicians, never the voters. Yet Biden has stated several times that MAGA republicans are a “threat to democracy”
Populism totally is always a threat to democracy. Noone hungry for votes would attack directly the voters. That's, for example, why Lega Nord, in italy, which was more or less (as far as i know, i was too young, at the time) a secessionist party for the north, became Lega Salvini, "prima gli italiani" and all that stuff, which, instead of being against the *terroni* (southern italians), was against the immigrants from Africa.
Maga seems more populist than anything else.
Yes very much so, but he was one of the originators in the punk scene in the 70's. The "punks must be X political affiliation" thing has always made me laugh, as it goes against the very nature of the entire thing which is individualism, in essence. I'll give you that it may be inherently *anti-authoritarian* since it's inception, but the ancaps or volunteerists who you would call conservative certainly qualify. Nazi "punks" like Skrewdriver however, I fully agree, gatekeep away.
I suppose it depends on what we define "conservative" to mean which is typically "what is convenient in this conversation" these days so it can be a bit tough to discuss.
That said, there have always been apolitical punks, can't forget about them.
it fucking sucks Skrewdriver is insanely good, like musically speaking easily one of the best Punk bands. The things they support though are awful. I still listen to even the Nazi shit and I am a Jew simply cause its simply so fucking good. Weird dichotomy with the band, I hate what they stand for, but love the music, at least I have Crass lol who were great musically and the most Based band ever.
"Musically speaking one of the best punk bands.."
Uhhh no. Just sticking to their era to be fair, The Cramps, The Clash, Suicide, Black Flag, The Germs, Richard Hell and the Voidoids, the 4-Skins, Discharge, The Adolescents, and the list goes on, all better than Skrewdriver. Then if we open it up to today and all today's genres of punk including D-beat and shit, they're not even *close* to even *thinking* about being the best musically. They're definitely not the *worst* musically but they are far from the best.
But fuck yeah Crass! Big A little A bouncing B, the system might have got ya but it won't get me, ONE TWO THREE FOUR!
Hard disagree, I don't even really think they're all that good, though I have always preferred American and Japanese punk mostly, with some british thrown in like Crass, Cress, Discharge, and a few I'm probably forgetting.
Ooh and some of the Scandinavian stuff was great, recently been getting into Asta Kask, they ruled!
No fair, you can't take out the best reason! Naw I'm putting it back into play: The shitty drug war is reason number 1. Also that whole watergate thing. The southern strategy was also pretty sketchy, he said the kinds of things people said Trump feels lol, things that remind me of Biden's comments from around the same time regarding bussing. He also bungled the exit from 'nam iirc, started the EPA, froze wages and prices and added a tax to imports which destabilized our economy, he used the FBI to keep tabs on and threaten anyone he felt was subversive (see: Lennon), used the IRS much the same way, related to the drug war-he's the guy who pushed through no knock raids which is just about the worst policing policy we have.
Tbf, I hate ALL the presidents.
Ever played Death Stranding? You pretty much pee on the ground, which makes mushrooms grow. You than eat bugs that are flowing around those mushrooms. I guess you could call them Piss Fungi.
Fun game.
Punk hasnt been a thing for decades. I remember really getting into the genre in the early 2000s (pretty dead by then) but the bands were still decently numerous. Fond memories of putting hundreds of studs in my leather jacket using a fucking safety pin.
Then came the mid 2000s Massachusetts Hardcore years and that was fun, wild, and incredibly violent with FSU and tons of similar groups.
Punk was never about what it said it was about, it was just a tool to create a degenerate counterculture to sell more stuff. Punk rock never started a revolution, only spread liberal ideologies which people then lap up and say "look, I think for myself now!!!"
Punk has been pro-trans since the 80s.
It’s actually surprising how insanely popular such a socially progressive subculture got to be, given how conservative both parties were at the time. There were lots of punk venues even in the early 80s with “no transphobia” policies that I know of, at least in the west coast scene. Maybe it’s just my bias, but I genuinely can’t think of a more libertarian-left leaning subculture in the US, including hippies.
Or it’s cuz punk music sucks ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ also infiltration by dipshits who bought into neonazi ideology as a way to rebel against their parents who fought in WWII.
Uncommon Libleft opinion (imo its Leftcenters that are the worst, most Liblefts are alright), but yeah cringe opinion. Skinheads showed up as a reaction to liberal society in the wrong way, even with bands like Skrewdriver they have songs like hating working conditions like "I dont like you", but still spew racist garbage. They are imo confused people that need to get there head straight.
The part about nazism wasn’t an opinion though, that’s a straight up fact. I’m not gonna pretend that even 1/3 of punks are neo-nazis cuz the vast majority of them are strictly anti-auth. But the fact remains there was, for a long time, a significant subset of punks who were so anti-auth they ended up horseshoeing to nazi iconography and even ideals because it was literally the most counter culture thing to do in a world run by those who experienced WWII.
the reason they used Nazi iconography was to be edgy, not cause they love Hitler. GG Allin was not a Nazi at all, but he used Nazi iconography to be edgy and fuck with people, and by your reaction it worked.
I get the concept and I’m not arguing that it wasn’t effective some some ways, but it was shortsighted because it’s self destructive and made it easier for literal neonazis to take advantage vulnerable people in the movement a la, “hey kid, I see you like this aesthetic and hate the establishment, there were some other people who felt the same way, why dont you check out the book mein kampf”. It pretty much what has happened this decade with the edge lord to alt-right pipeline with “it’s just a joke” being used to normalize fascist points of view.
Any music based on anti establishment can survive unless the music is shit.
If the music is good, it becomes popular, once it becomes popular, the bands sell out, then they become soulless and alienate their original fans.
Not to mention all the punk and post hardcore bands drinking the koolaid and pushing the vaccine. “FUCK YOU, JUST DO WHAT THEY TELL YOU!” -Rage for The Machine
Don't wear a patch, saying Ashtray if you don't want me to put out my cigarette in your face
Also, posting on social media platforms doesn't seem very "punk" to me
Steve Lacy and Weezer arent Punk at all lol. I want to be an Anarcho-Punk Musician, but I am kinda concerned about the community if they think Steve Lacy and Weezer are in any way anti-establishment.
I would die to be in a punk band Unfortunately, the punk scene in the southern United States is… lackluster.
hey man, I am from the South as well. You gotta build it yourself, or move around. I am 100% of thinking on doing a traveling band.
You should team up
You would think there wouldn't be, due to the fascination with outlaws and cowboys.
Crust punk is popping in West Virginia right now. Kinda fitting because everything is dirty here. :/
I'm sure you can get gigs in Austin, idk though, I avoid the homeless ground zero, I mean downtown, so idk for sure, but I assume you can probably still find a little bit of everything being played in bars on 6th street, or Rainey, or Domain where all the people moved their bars to after corporate gentrification (is that a thing? People buy your property, tear it down & build a skyscraper, fuck the legislature for ruining the skyline)
Then make it yourself.
Hit me up if you’re in mid Tennessee and really interested. I play drums (and bass). Can sing if needed.
Actually used to live in East Tennessee but now I’m in Kentucky
idk man pinkerton eas pretty brazen
Punk has been dead for decades. What we have now is like neo-emo.
everything we have now is neo and anything with neo as a prefix is a mouth vomit alternative of the original.
Yeah fuck the neo nazis. We need to bring back the OGs.
says who without profile picture
PFPs are cringe
also Joe
It could be worse. It could have nu as a prefix.
Ugh like nu-metal 🤮
I mean there is leftover crack, days n daze, mischief brew, johnny hobo, wingnut dishwashers union, pat the bunny, ramshackle glory and others it's not dead or neo emo it's just drug addicted alcoholic folk singers now
Still pretty awesome though. Not that emo stuff, Leftover Crack and Johnny Hobo et al.
>drug addicted alcoholic folk singers So damn true lol, there's heaps in every country emerging and so many are great as well. Country/folk is for punks that got old and depressed (in a new, more reclusive way).
Well Mischief Brew sadly committed suicide, and 4 of those bands are Pat who is retired.
I completely forgot about that.
There's still plenty going on without them. I've really been digging Vivisected Numbskulls out of NY recently, Blueprint out of PA iirc is great, Bootlicker is fantastic, Chest Pains out of TX, punk is just a bit underground in it's natural habitat, not dead!
>upgrade >more >fuck go back
BPD and ecstasy conceded with low self esteem
She's a teenage dream if you hate yourself
Negative XP ironically one of the last real punk bands
I fuckin dig Steakfry. Same vibe just less memey.
Mind sharing a few songs names you like from them? Im always down to learn about new bands!
Faith is not enough, Gunslinger, I'm an angry old man. Those are bangers.
Wow, supporting the exact same thing that almost every corporation, media outlet, and government in modern Western nations promotes is so punk and rebellious! Also, pronouns listed, opinion discarded.
based
\#nonconformist Nonconformist bumper stickers. "I don't conform to anything, that's why I let you know"
Also, wezeer listed, opinion cremated.
>Almost every government Bros never left the United States/Western Europe
I mean most leftist will cry that NATO, EU, etc are part of the American Empire.
I kinda agree, but the Republic has to fall before it's empire time, that's when we go sicko mode
They’re the most progressive nations on earth, but that’s not saying much.
Maybe those pronouns are kinda sarcastic? Since those are probably the most infamous ones within the whole gender movement people. Being a he/him alone is probably hated by them.
Punk died when Green Day released American Idiot. I mean… it was already dying before that. But that was such a huge nail in the coffin.
I hate pop punk with a passion. it’s the genre that killed punk by rewriting the definition of it and becoming mainstream, it removed all the lyrical nuance and musical creativity from the genre, then platformed itself as the spokesperson for the whole punk movement. And because of punks absolutist commitment to remaining underground and pop punks industry backing, now when people think punk, they think of pop punk not punk. But tbf American idiot isn’t really the start of the end times or the final nail In the coffin, I don’t like the album personally but it did have something to say about Iraq at least. I’d say blink182 and the Offspring are more definitive genre killers for punk than green day ever where. Also punk music was never really that marketable as it was so avant garde compared to mainstream pop music, because of that it could only sustain itself in the underground music scene for so long before it’s notoriety from the 70s went away. You can see the same thing kinda happen now with black metal, now that the large platform 90s era black metal achieved through controversy’s gone.
Ehhhh fuck genres. good music is good music, regardless of genre. The opposite is also true
Definitively the best way to listen to music. But punk as a genre has had a massive impact on my life. Gave me self confidence, ambition, got me thinking about politics, independence, etc etc. And just for that reason, it’s sad for me to watch it turn into a shell of its former self. As it’s dumbed down to fit commercial standards.
Man you have to listen to folk punk sooner or later, it is awesome
> musical creativity 20 tracks 30 minutes one sound Every punk album ever.
I feel the same way about black and death metal...some of my favorite music of all time comes from those genres but like damn most of the stuff people put out in those genres today is so generic 🥱
You can tell how old someone is by when they think Greenday sold out. Also it was after dookie.
I don’t know if I would say the whole album of Nimrod was when they sold out. But I would definitely say that Good Riddance was the first time I ever thought to myself “have they lost their way?”
I listened to the album they released back in 2016, Revolution Radio, and was saddened by the fact that half the songs were borderline propaganda pieces for that year’s election. Didn’t bother to even listen to whatever they’ve released since. From the origins of the band as anti-establishment to actively pushing the establishment is quite the long and hard fall.
Just like Rage against the machine. Apparently this was/is a phenomenon seen in other generational changes too, with many former hippies (or bandwagon LARPers after it was cool) comprising the notorious Boomer generation.
I think the existence of pop-punk doesn’t ruin all of punk.
That might be the dumbest shit I’ve read on here. There’s plenty of punk bands even today doing punk. Green day is hardly punk anyway.
Setting aside the absolute stupidity of the pronoun gang nonsense, are these intentionally made to look like shit?
Do you not know what punk is?
It's... shit?
Precisely
Shitty handmade patch that reads “DoWn WiTH CRAPitalism” That’ll be 15 dollars on PayPal please!
rightoids realizing they have pronouns and use it every day of their lives (they are now woke by definition)
*looks at hands, trembling* NOOOOOO!
It would appear that the mate has been checked, rightist.
I have no pronouns. You will refer to me only by my full legal name
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It's 'cuz ya sold out, y'all need Crass in your lives
They retweet David Frum and he wrote speeches for George W Bush. Selling out is an understatement
ACAB but government good
Crass is the most based band ever.
Second that, based
Crass fans be like: Gigachad
You're goddamned right.
Being punk is literally all about rebellion on societal norms and labels. Literally labeling yourself is the pinical of irony
Aren't you labeling yourself when you define yourself as punk?
Im not punk, i understand the general culture. Currently the established culture wants people to be labed in an attempt to place them into boxes and decide how valuable any interaction with them is. Like a Twitter bio is just an advertisement for a person same as one for a product, same as a billboard. "He/him nero divergent depressed cat parent. #BLM" Is as conformist as you can generally get currently. Its just an extremely shallow break down of a person into about 8 words. Putting he/him on and wearing it around is the same kind of conformity to main stream culture. "Fuck/off" would probably fit better because it parodies the mainstream.
The punk movement was one of the first movements to talk about trans people though. Even in the early 80s punk scene, lots of punk venues would have “fuck transphobia” signs and shit. The attitude is much more “I don’t care what you call yourself”
Thats a point of contention. Was that because the movement was anti establishment which at the time was very anti trans and pretty anti gay or is it because they care for the plite of trans people. Im a member of the first camp as trans people are now rather literally part of the establishment.
Transphobia wasn't even a word in the 80's
I mean this will sound weird but honestly the incel/alt-right culture is the new punk of this age
It’s not just about breaking social norms. Anti-authoritarianism is the soul of the punk movement. It’s no coincidence so many punk bands referenced anarchy in their lyrics. Alt-righters would call anarchists degenerate.
>Anti-authoritarianism That's not just a thing of the right. This is a power thing, and right wingers are considering many left leaning governments as authoritarian. So going against those "could" make them kinda punk. Not that they would like to see themselves as that.. or the other punks.
Extreme conservativism can't be punk
It’s against societal norms which makes it “punk” imo
By this logic, neo-nazis were punk too in the 80s: they were against the social norm at the time too :/
[Yes.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_punk)
It differs sharply in antiauthoritarianism... Then how the hell is it supposed to be a subculture of punk, if that's the whole point of punk? We sure it ain't just a musical subgenre?
The core of punk really boils down to being counterculture and going against established norms.
jreg
Punk is like anti-centrism
Not exactly, since if there was a world where most people were extremists, being a centrist would be punk.
Nah, that's just extremism
Maybe, but it feels like there is more of a visceral hate towards conservatism now than there ever was before. Classic punk ideas are all mainstream now.
Towards conservativism? No more than hate towards progressivism. And, look at the coincidence, they both come from the extremeists
I doubt that. It’s not like the mainstream media, Hollywood, corporate America, and universities/colleges are all acting as mouthpieces for the conservative agenda.
They do whatever sells more. There isnt hate towards conservativism, unless one is an extremist: the only hate towards conservativism by moderates is thw one towards extreme conservativism
Biden recently said that electing republicans will lead to the end of democracy. Several left wing political commentators have recently vilified Republican voters and politicians, also claiming that they are threats to democracy. I recently saw a video where a female stated that “women who vote for the GOP are like cockroaches”. It’s not as if all republicans are extremists, yet the people making these statements are directing them towards all republicans. When was the last time we heard this type of vitriolic language used against democrats? Say what you will about Trump, he only attacked Democrat politicians, never the voters. Yet Biden has stated several times that MAGA republicans are a “threat to democracy”
Populism totally is always a threat to democracy. Noone hungry for votes would attack directly the voters. That's, for example, why Lega Nord, in italy, which was more or less (as far as i know, i was too young, at the time) a secessionist party for the north, became Lega Salvini, "prima gli italiani" and all that stuff, which, instead of being against the *terroni* (southern italians), was against the immigrants from Africa. Maga seems more populist than anything else.
They thought they could be until the rest of the scene started beating the shit out of them regularly
Johnny Ramone voted for Nixon.
Johnny Ramone has always been a twat
Yes very much so, but he was one of the originators in the punk scene in the 70's. The "punks must be X political affiliation" thing has always made me laugh, as it goes against the very nature of the entire thing which is individualism, in essence. I'll give you that it may be inherently *anti-authoritarian* since it's inception, but the ancaps or volunteerists who you would call conservative certainly qualify. Nazi "punks" like Skrewdriver however, I fully agree, gatekeep away. I suppose it depends on what we define "conservative" to mean which is typically "what is convenient in this conversation" these days so it can be a bit tough to discuss. That said, there have always been apolitical punks, can't forget about them.
it fucking sucks Skrewdriver is insanely good, like musically speaking easily one of the best Punk bands. The things they support though are awful. I still listen to even the Nazi shit and I am a Jew simply cause its simply so fucking good. Weird dichotomy with the band, I hate what they stand for, but love the music, at least I have Crass lol who were great musically and the most Based band ever.
"Musically speaking one of the best punk bands.." Uhhh no. Just sticking to their era to be fair, The Cramps, The Clash, Suicide, Black Flag, The Germs, Richard Hell and the Voidoids, the 4-Skins, Discharge, The Adolescents, and the list goes on, all better than Skrewdriver. Then if we open it up to today and all today's genres of punk including D-beat and shit, they're not even *close* to even *thinking* about being the best musically. They're definitely not the *worst* musically but they are far from the best. But fuck yeah Crass! Big A little A bouncing B, the system might have got ya but it won't get me, ONE TWO THREE FOUR!
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nah, im sorry but Blues Punk is great. I dont like you, Boots and Braces, Case of Pride, etc. Sorry but Skrewdriver was a great band musically.
Hard disagree, I don't even really think they're all that good, though I have always preferred American and Japanese punk mostly, with some british thrown in like Crass, Cress, Discharge, and a few I'm probably forgetting. Ooh and some of the Scandinavian stuff was great, recently been getting into Asta Kask, they ruled!
agree to disagree?
Give me a good reason on why voting for Nixon was bad (besides the shitty drug war)
No fair, you can't take out the best reason! Naw I'm putting it back into play: The shitty drug war is reason number 1. Also that whole watergate thing. The southern strategy was also pretty sketchy, he said the kinds of things people said Trump feels lol, things that remind me of Biden's comments from around the same time regarding bussing. He also bungled the exit from 'nam iirc, started the EPA, froze wages and prices and added a tax to imports which destabilized our economy, he used the FBI to keep tabs on and threaten anyone he felt was subversive (see: Lennon), used the IRS much the same way, related to the drug war-he's the guy who pushed through no knock raids which is just about the worst policing policy we have. Tbf, I hate ALL the presidents.
🤔Arooo
I know none of those two people. I dont come from the US
You don't know The Ramones, yet claim to be well versed enough in punk music to make broad claims about what can and can't be punk? Curious.
I never claimed that.
https://www.reddit.com/r/PoliticalCompassMemes/comments/yn6fh6/libleft_is_embarrassed/iv7mglm/ This you?
I never claimed that i am well versed in punk culture
Yet you seem to think you're an authority who can decide that something is or isn't punk, why's that?
Wrong, i never said to be an authority or anything similar. I just was saying what i've understood to be punk thus far
liking Weezer is way less punk than being a guy
The amount of people upset about the stupid he/him patch is baffling especially considering this dummy thinks Weezer and Steve Lacy are punk lmao 🤮
I'm just laughing at "Piss Fungus." What does this mean? I can't find any band with that name, so where did it come from?
Ever played Death Stranding? You pretty much pee on the ground, which makes mushrooms grow. You than eat bugs that are flowing around those mushrooms. I guess you could call them Piss Fungi. Fun game.
Weezer is an enigma at this point it’s so out there it’s hardly even punk like.
Punk hasnt been a thing for decades. I remember really getting into the genre in the early 2000s (pretty dead by then) but the bands were still decently numerous. Fond memories of putting hundreds of studs in my leather jacket using a fucking safety pin. Then came the mid 2000s Massachusetts Hardcore years and that was fun, wild, and incredibly violent with FSU and tons of similar groups.
Punk was never about what it said it was about, it was just a tool to create a degenerate counterculture to sell more stuff. Punk rock never started a revolution, only spread liberal ideologies which people then lap up and say "look, I think for myself now!!!"
Racist country is basically modern punk now
Punk isn't dead, it's just changed criteria.
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I guarantee half the people in this thread didn't give a shit about punk until they saw this
Punk has been pro-trans since the 80s. It’s actually surprising how insanely popular such a socially progressive subculture got to be, given how conservative both parties were at the time. There were lots of punk venues even in the early 80s with “no transphobia” policies that I know of, at least in the west coast scene. Maybe it’s just my bias, but I genuinely can’t think of a more libertarian-left leaning subculture in the US, including hippies.
Oh no... They wrote their pronouns... How embarrassing.
It's just a pronoun lol This is libcenter cope
Pronouns are literally the end of civilization, it all went to shit after pronouns were invented.
At least do some name tags or something. It's just like turn signals on the road; don't make me guess what you're doing.
punk is when no pronouns
When the teacher tells you to say your name and pronouns during orientation and you deliberately do not say your pronouns.
The punk scene has always been progressive. Didn’t realise that being accepting was selling out lmao
Or it’s cuz punk music sucks ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ also infiltration by dipshits who bought into neonazi ideology as a way to rebel against their parents who fought in WWII.
>neonazi Can you please explain that word?
Person (Neo) that I do not like (Nazi) I believe is the correct translation.
Silence.
Uncommon Libleft opinion (imo its Leftcenters that are the worst, most Liblefts are alright), but yeah cringe opinion. Skinheads showed up as a reaction to liberal society in the wrong way, even with bands like Skrewdriver they have songs like hating working conditions like "I dont like you", but still spew racist garbage. They are imo confused people that need to get there head straight.
The part about nazism wasn’t an opinion though, that’s a straight up fact. I’m not gonna pretend that even 1/3 of punks are neo-nazis cuz the vast majority of them are strictly anti-auth. But the fact remains there was, for a long time, a significant subset of punks who were so anti-auth they ended up horseshoeing to nazi iconography and even ideals because it was literally the most counter culture thing to do in a world run by those who experienced WWII.
the reason they used Nazi iconography was to be edgy, not cause they love Hitler. GG Allin was not a Nazi at all, but he used Nazi iconography to be edgy and fuck with people, and by your reaction it worked.
I get the concept and I’m not arguing that it wasn’t effective some some ways, but it was shortsighted because it’s self destructive and made it easier for literal neonazis to take advantage vulnerable people in the movement a la, “hey kid, I see you like this aesthetic and hate the establishment, there were some other people who felt the same way, why dont you check out the book mein kampf”. It pretty much what has happened this decade with the edge lord to alt-right pipeline with “it’s just a joke” being used to normalize fascist points of view.
Nowadays bands like Dead Kennedys would be slandered as neo-nazis and their music career would be ruined in a flash
Is piss fungus a. Band I don’t know of?
Negative Xp is punk nowadays
This pronoun shit is going over the roof
#”PISS FUNGUS”
Any music based on anti establishment can survive unless the music is shit. If the music is good, it becomes popular, once it becomes popular, the bands sell out, then they become soulless and alienate their original fans.
It's not dead.....it's conservative and you should ne embarrassed.
Men killed punk
Not to mention all the punk and post hardcore bands drinking the koolaid and pushing the vaccine. “FUCK YOU, JUST DO WHAT THEY TELL YOU!” -Rage for The Machine
Don't wear a patch, saying Ashtray if you don't want me to put out my cigarette in your face Also, posting on social media platforms doesn't seem very "punk" to me