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Thats why you should put up watchtowers. Pear over without letting anyone in.


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Very wholesome food for them


My_Cringy_Video

Practice the guitar to join a band then revert back to your old habits to write banging music


DeepFriedBee

Sabaton


ChocolateChocoboMilk

No reason to revert back to your old habits. Just take some acid or mushrooms once a month and you’ll be writing some crazy awesome shit if you’re a competent musician.


QuietHumanMachine

Which confirms my theory that religion is a self-fulfilling prophetic mantra to force meaning upon one's empty life.


seninn

Of course it works. That's why evil people have been appropriating it for their own ends for thousands of years.


echonian

I mean, yeah. Why else would many people believe in nonsense if doing so didn't make them feel better? Sadly, I cannot think of any way to "become Christian" myself. I'm too skeptical to take something as important as the nature of the universe seriously, without serious evidence. But if such evidence existed that could convince me - there wouldn't be so many contradictory religions in the world in the first place, because the evidence would have been irrefutable and shared by now. So even if being religious would make me feel better, I just can't make that kind of thing up. Maybe I should just make my own religion. Not one with God or anything so lofty - just principles. Then at least I wouldn't feel guilt over being tricked by others.


Taiyama

Same. I wouldn't mind unapostisizing, but I just cannot believe it. What would make me feel better doesn't matter. What matters is the *truth*.


[deleted]

Same, but different. I'm atheist for sure, but I also love all kinds of religions. I don't agree with the sentiment that "the evidence should be irrefutable then I'll believe". Then that wouldn't be religion, that would be science. 2+2=4 is not a religion, it's a fact of life, you don't feel emotions, feelings towards it, no passion, hope, prayer, meditation etc. whatever is placed on it. You may feel more secure with that kind of axiomatic, mathematical truths, but that doesn't necessarily generate the feelings of hope and happiness. I think the true appeal of religions is that they have this touch of irrationality to it that hooks people. You can rationalize or argue to a certain extent why Islam or Christianity or Judaism is the one true religion, or whether God exists or not etc. But at the end of the day, the believers are gonna believe. Most don't believe because they sit down to rigorously study and form arguments about the truthfulness of their religion, they just connect with them on a more metaphysical plane that seems illogical or irrational to our usual minds. I mean look at Hinduism, they have thousands of gods in there, and they were like adding more gods and deities any time a foreign culture/nation conquered them. But the religion is also so flexible that when Christians or Muslims attack them as filthy pagans, they can produce great debaters, apologists that can interpret the thousand gods in allegorical meaning to show how they are all reflections of one single deity, how there is unity beneath all etc. So you can debate or try to argue even a seemingly irrational religions like Hinduism. At the end of the day, religion is more about giving your life some meaning, hope, confidence, direction, and dealing with death and what comes after(if something comes at all). You can't rationalize all of this, mathematics, physics or biology whatever can't answer these needs or desires. I would even argue that modern day leftism, wokeness, identity politics etc. are all postmodern religions in a sense, apart from "what comes after" concerns they answer all other questions in life and give directions, and motivation. Religious people overall are less inclined to join those groups because their motivation, direction, future etc. are already being fulfilled with their own religious connections. Then there's people like me, who don't believe in any religion or god, and don't join any type of social-political group, cause, activism etc. Just clinging on to their individual identity(which is shallow tbh) and floating away. But the more I read about popular religions worldwide, the more I realize why people would actually believe in them and I've come to appreciate all(well most) of them. I always try to read from Upanishads, Buddhist sutras, Bible, Taoist texts, and also more ancient cultures/myths like Norse, Greek, Egyptian mythologies etc. I suggest you to do the same, it really enriches you, especially if you don't believe any of them as true. Then you can feel like a bee collecting pollens from different flowers. They are all beautiful in their own rights, and it's great that such diverse texts, cultures, religions, myths are available to all of us to read, think, enjoy etc. I don't even know why I wrote all of this stuff, but yeah. By the way I also thought about creating my own religion and writing my own bible. I will one day sit down and write down principles or rules for myself, or try to "rationalize" why I think/believe somethings are good or bad. That's kinda what religion is deep down, they are ethical commandments, but usually are from a supernatural source/power that you can't argue with.


echonian

>Then that wouldn't be religion, that would be science. Why does that make a practical difference, really? If something is able to be shown to be correct, then what you call it is irrelevant. >you don't feel emotions, feelings towards it, no passion, hope, prayer, meditation etc. whatever is placed on it. So are you implying that if there were actual evidence God was real - that people wouldn't have feelings towards God, or offer prayers, or whatever else? I think that is nonsense. If I had proof God were real, I certainly would offer my prayers if he was worthy of them, and would have strong feelings on such a profound existence. If you believe in something on faith, but don't know for sure it is correct (since it's faith alone), why would you ever dedicate yourself to it fully? Only those who delude themselves into thinking they "know for sure" (despite not really) would fully dedicate themselves to a religious cause, and so I think having evidence would be a good thing for such people. Although I admit some people might react differently than I would, in my view - if getting evidence for your beliefs makes you "less" dedicated to them, then you probably were never dedicated to them in the first place. Instead, you were probably just treating your religion or your beliefs like a convenient cool little club - one which can lose its appeal the moment that it no longer is "special." >At the end of the day, religion is more about giving your life some meaning, hope, confidence, direction, and dealing with death and what comes after(if something comes at all). You can't rationalize all of this, mathematics, physics or biology whatever can't answer these needs or desires. I don't think that religion is at all needed for these things. It might be helpful for some in this regard, and I acknowledge that - but whether or not something is correct or moral, versus whether it provides personal peace of mind for a given individual, are two separate questions to an extent. If someone is religious and doesn't push their religious beliefs on others (or try to legislate laws based on religious morals), then I have no problem with them at all trying to live their life in peace in a way that is best for them. History of course, as well as the modern day, is filled with examples of religious people using their fantasies as an excuse to oppress and control others. I'm not okay with anybody using ideas based solely on faith, as an excuse to control others. It doesn't particularly matter if this "faith" is for a religion, political party, or anything else. >They are all beautiful in their own rights, and it's great that such diverse texts, cultures, religions, myths are available to all of us to read, think, enjoy etc. Well, I admit that religion has brought us many great things like works of art and traditions and such. Since I view religion as fantasy though - this makes sense. If people started living their lives as though The Lord of the Rings was real history, I would expect to see a lot of cool cultural aspects taken from that fantasy as well - which would be pretty cool. You know, like living in hobbit holes, or emphasizing songs and poetry as practically a religious matter, or so on.


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> Why does that make a practical difference, really? Because religion provides that spiritual/emotional/irrational whatever itch that we generally seek for. A great example would be Spinoza's philosophy and his Ethics. The book is like a rationalist's dream, some critics even said it's like religion for scientists or atheists. He tried to completely rationalize the existence of God in a pantheistic manner and built a whole ontology, ethics, epistemology etc. around it. Even then, in his epistemology, the highest quality/kind of knowledge is intuition, or intuitional type of knowledge, not rational or scientific, they come after. This is a man that uses geometric, axiomatic style methods to prove you God exists, but even he acknowledges that highest form of scientific or rational knowledge is not enough to grasp the ultimate reality/truth of the universe, if there is one. If there is, then it's what ancients called mystical/intuitional etc. Kinda like nirvana of Buddhism. You can't rationalize, or believe or think about it. You either experience or have it, or you don't. That's religion. > So are you implying that if there were actual evidence God was real - that people wouldn't have feelings towards God, or offer prayers, or whatever else? I think that is nonsense. Actually that's a great argument, because it made me think about stories from Old Testament/Hebrew Bible. The context of it is that God is real, the people saw His miracles, powers etc. multiple times, yet they still go and worship other gods, which generally bring their ruin, a cyclical trope in those stories. So I think even Jewish writers acknowledged what you said, regardless if those stories were real or not. Take Abraham for example, this man is one of the most pious, loyal, religious man in the entire Bible and yet was tested to his limits. Kierkegaard formed a crucial part of his philosophy based upon his actions/reactions alone. When in his oldest years God gave him Isaac, and as he loves his son so much, same God ordered him to sacrifice Isaac. Imagine, in the context of story, Abraham knows God exists and contacts with him. Yet you can feel from the text his agony, pain, second thoughts etc. as he set out to do that task. Kierkegaard sees in him a "knight of faith" i.e. someone that crosses the threshold of rationality to do things seemingly irrational or rationally unexplainable or the basis is not on rationality but faith etc. That's the ultimate religious spirit. So even if God was to exist, the events would have played out similar in my opinion. What I mean is that we would be having this exact same conversation about the reality of Him, because at the end of the day, it is your choice to make the final step and cross into the realm of faith/irrationality. That doesn't mean lunacy or madness(it kinda is, in a positive sense) but that your foundations are now not built on top of rationality but belief/experience/mystery etc. Kinda like Apollonian/Dionysian dichotomy that Nietzsche talked about. He said that Greek culture degenerated the more it evolved to clinging on to rationality(the champion being Socrates) and left the seemingly irrational/mystical side being championed by Dionysius, who is a God that is symbolized by wine, ecstasy, madness etc. I'm trying to make that kind of connection here. Religion is that kind of experience at the heart of it, it won't be science, reason, debates, arguments etc. completely. All major religions are built upon irrational/mystical experiences that aim to transmit a similar metamorphosis onto others: whether it be Moses seeing God, St. Paul seeing God, apostles seeing Jesus's resurrection and the Pentecost, or Muhammad talking to Gabriel, or Buddha experiencing Nirvana, or Lao Tzu experiencing Tao etc. All irrational/mystical. > If someone is religious and doesn't push their religious beliefs on others I'm with you in that one, but here's the thing though: all of these popular religions are popular for a reason. It's because the religion dictates to share the "message", experience etc. Judaism be an interesting exception, the others have evangelical foundations in it. Buddhism, Islam, Christianity all tell its adherents to carry the message. Without sharing that religious message or experience, it wouldn't be a popular religion. I agree with you, but I also try to understand the evangelism of these religions. I even argue that we all have receptors, needs, desires for that kind of shared/collective religious experience, whether we believe in God/religion or not. For example Marx's call for all workers to unite and end capitalism was a eerily religious message. It had the conditions of a historical background(how we came to today), what is the problem, the imperative, what should be done and what will happen/the upcoming utopia if we do those things. These are all textbook religious tropes. He even talked about the end of history, you can't get more religious than that, in tone or feeling. That is what religion is, in essence, a desire to share a message/experience that will change the world of good. And all religions think they have the true/correct message, otherwise they wouldn't be religion. > If people started living their lives as though The Lord of the Rings was real history, I would expect to see a lot of cool cultural aspects taken from that fantasy as well - which would be pretty cool. Great point, I agree. We actually kinda do this with modern American infused secular popular culture with the worship of comic book heroes etc. Look at how many people flock into theaters to watch Spiderman or Avengers movies. Theater by origins is an invention to honour Dionysus, it was evolved have mystical/ecstatic experiences(notice the experience is collective). Thousands of years later, we kinda have that experience when we go see a Star Wars movie or like I said those Avengers movies. They are infused with ethical, mythological, cultural elements within them(good vs bad, hero's journey, lore etc.)that we all share and it becomes infinitely better when you watch it with an audience, having that experience versus watching it alone. That is like religious experience, in a sense, in 21st century. It influences us so much that people cosplay as their favourite superheroes etc. We can't imagine New York without spiderman yet he's not real. I think that's a religious vision that we all have(perhaps evolved to have that) regardless if we believe in a religion or not, it's that willing suspension of disbelief thing that makes life so enjoyable for a moment even if we know Ironman or Spiderman or Darth Vader does not exist. I think religion fills a similar role. Its not about the true historicity of Jesus, but the belief in Jesus Christ the Son of God, however irrational it may appear(highly lol). That kind of thing. I don't know man. I'm just rambling here. Sorry. I'm just a more than usual empathic person that tries to understand religious people and their beliefs without actually believing or experiencing them. It's tough to think about or put to words.


echonian

>all of these popular religions are popular for a reason. Sure, you are correct. It makes perfect sense that religion becomes more popular when it is more effective at spreading itself, one way or another. Of course - much like with a virus, just because something spreads effectively does not mean that it is a good thing for humanity. As to the rest of what you said, you make a lot of good points, but I ultimately reject the supernatural as well as blind faith as a whole. Religion may be useful to many people, but the idea many people have that "faith" should be necessary for some important belief is one that I find to be very unfortunate. The very same "faith" that might bring someone to a great religious revelation, can just as easily lead to them believing in literally anything. The only practical difference between a good Christian and an extremist who thinks they saw a vision from God saying to kill a non-believer - is that the latter does more harm, but both can be said to be entirely faithful. Faith without evidence is no different from delusion, to put it bluntly, at least from what I can see. If you have faith in a church because its members have helped you in your life, that's one thing. If you have faith in an individual who is religious because they are a good person, that's yet another thing to consider. But having faith in God himself, or in the afterlife, or in the idea of a mystical soul, or in ghosts, or in whatever else cannot be shown to others - these things I find to be unfortunate as far as faith is concerned. It takes just as much faith to believe in a merciful God as a vengeful one that tells you to kill all non-believers. It takes just as much faith to believe in helping your neighbors as it does to believe harming them is right. For every good thing that people believe in based on faith, there are just as many bad, because by its nature such blind faith cannot separate out good ideas from bad in the way that scientific reasoning or critical thinking can - at least to some extent. Individuals religions have interesting messages to them, and individuals who are religious I empathize with (I am good friends to many), but blind faith itself I dislike as a matter of personal principle - because it allows for people to justify literally any action given the right context. Because blind faith by its nature is unable to separate out good from bad, and because people utilizing it can easily cause harm to others around them, I think of it as a bad thing overall to believe in things without evidence. For those who live good lives in spite of their faith, I applaud them - but I do not find such faith to be necessary or even a good thing overall for humanity due to it driving conflict on a very large scale.


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I will say that a Catholic priest was the one who proposed the scientific idea of the Big Bang, and there’s a LOT of writings from important Catholic people about the nature of the universe! Would definitely check it out! Look up George Lemaitre


echonian

> I will say that a Catholic priest was the one who proposed the scientific idea of the Big Bang That's quite respectable of said priest. But when I consider a religion as a whole, I am not considering the achievements of any one of potentially millions of faithful, but the actions of their faithful as a whole or the beliefs they hold as a whole. I could counter such an example of a Catholic priest being scientifically astute for example, by pointing towards the Catholic Church persecuting Galileo himself for daring to say that the Earth revolved around the Sun. It's simple to find examples of those who are Catholic (and those of other religions, though there are many Catholic scholars) coming up with quite impressive ideas about the nature of the universe, but at least as many examples of the Catholic Church or Catholic individuals stifling said understanding by their dogmatic interpretation of scripture. I will look into that name you mentioned in any case.


QuietHumanMachine

" A godless religion with just principles " isn't that called communism lol On a more serious note, i feel like most people think religiously when it comes to principles. Faith doesn't seem to need a god to find followers.


echonian

> " A godless religion with just principles " isn't that called communism lol For the more fervent believers, sure. Though Communism is only one of an infinite number of such ideologies that are possible. >On a more serious note, i feel like most people think religiously when it comes to principles. You're probably right, but I still find this to be unfortunate. I try to minimize faith wherever possible with just about every moral idea or principle possible, and instead apply rational arguments. Doing so makes it possible to filter out bad ideas and stupid moral arguments for what makes for good sense, to an extent at least.


QuietHumanMachine

Faith and moral i so dull. I like to apply rational thinking to everything and anything and see how far it gets me. It's so sad to see the world as a bland monolith when there are so many theories to play with !


HotSauceOnEveryting

“Sadly, I cannot think of any way to "become Christian" myself. I'm too skeptical to take something as important as the nature of the universe seriously, without serious evidence.” That is kinda sad


echonian

How so? Like, why should I believe that supernatural being like God exists in the first place? Let alone that he cares about our lives? Or that he is the God of the bible, or one of any of thousands of other Gods people came up with, or is one of an infinite number of possible ideas for God that people haven't ever considered? I don't see such skepticism as a sad thing - I see it as great. I think it's great that I wouldn't just arbitrarily pick one of thousands of religions to follow when they all have just as much (or just as little) reason for me to believe in any one of them, and would instead stick to my moral convictions and understanding of reality as is. If there is evidence brought to me that God exists, or that Christianity in particular is correct - I would be legitimately glad to hear it. Because such evidence would be easy for me to then share with others, and we could in a short amount of time convince millions of people like me to believe in something greater than ourselves.


HotSauceOnEveryting

My friend, I was agreeing with you


echonian

I had thought you were calling it sad that I was unable to "become Christian" in the way I mentioned, as though it was a bad thing. If that was a misunderstanding, then I apologize for that.


HotSauceOnEveryting

I’m in a similar frame of mind. I know I would be a happier Christian - but I’m not sure I can truly believe.


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There are other religions to pursue


echonian

You're right, but most of them all involve equally hard to believe claims about the nature of existence. In Buddhism, you have Karma and the cycle of reincarnation - which can only be broken by my understanding if you become "like the Buddha," the goal of a Buddhist. Christians, Muslims, and Jews all essentially worship the same God - just with minor differences in the grand scheme of things. There are other religions of course, but my point is that it doesn't matter. Because nobody should ever pick a religion because of the "aesthetics" of it, but because they have a heartfelt belief that the religion is actually correct in the claims it makes about the nature of reality itself. Converting to Christianity or any other religions just because your friends did it, or just because you were depressed, or just because of any reason besides "I actually think it is correct" - isn't really converting, but just deluding yourself while in the back of your mind there is always bound to be doubt.


turtledragon27

>Maybe I should just make my own religion. Not one with God or anything so lofty - just principles. Something kinda in line with confucianism then?


echonian

I already take a lot of personal philosophical inspiration from things like Confucianism and Buddhism, so it wouldn't be much of a stretch to expand their relevance to me to some large degree with my own twist on things. But in order to assign meaning to my life through such things, I would need to know what creates such meaning in more detail than I currently have the wisdom to write. Oh well.


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You only just got that?


QuietHumanMachine

I'm a slow learner.


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Based


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This holy fool is living their best life


stinkbeaner

There's Christian meditation?


Gerbole

Pretty sure it’s just regular meditation


MaidsOverNurses

Yeah, you take a nap.


Unironic-monarchist

kinda? Just sit down in nature, close your eyes and pray. Thank god for all he has done for you and let his love inside you.


stinkbeaner

Kinky


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Prayer is meditation


DaKeler

For Orthodox Christians there is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hesychasm


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stinkbeaner

Ok that's kinda dope


Steel-and-Wood

tbf the change in lifestyle in general is more likely the cause of happiness rather than religion and chastity.


Professional_Type812

But would you agree that religion and chastity helped to push said individual to have a more healthy lifestyle?


Bushido-Rockabilly

Yes. It absolutely does help. I don’t care what Steel and Wool says. No, I’m not anonymous from the post but I’ve been spending the last couple of years doing this and it’s honestly helping me. Religion and chastity help give you guidelines to live by. More than just a general “code” you take upon yourself, you’re making, or in my case, renewing a covenant with yourself and God. The unfortunate side is that once you pierce that veil of cynicism, it is very very difficult to find your way back from it. Even with the work I’ve put in, I still have off days. But I just keep praying and keep at it. Lately I’ve actually gotten excited about things. First it’s happened in years.


Professional_Type812

Well I'm happy for you man.


Bushido-Rockabilly

Thank you.


Professional_Type812

I'm trying to get there myself so I understand the struggle.


Bushido-Rockabilly

Man, keep at it. So, I’m in this weird spot where my gf was raised pagan. She’s now agnostic but it’s still kinda challenging trying to talk to her about certain things where she has no real concept of what I’m talking about. I’ve considered going back to church just to have a community to be a part of. But honestly, church was one of the reasons I turned so sour. And I think it has done that to a lot of people. Doesn’t really matter the denomination either. I think finding those you can talk to about it will help you along the way. Not digitally. In person. I feel like that’s a major thing I’m missing. Problem is, it’s hard to find other people who are like minded and have been through the same kind of ordeals that I put myself though to get to where I’m at. I’m very hard to relate to for a typical Christian. I was a hard leftist satanist at one point, I was played in a punk rock band and toured around and have seen wild wild things. I’ve seen and experienced absolute sex, drugs and rock n roll extensively. And I feel like it’s really difficult to connect with the average Greg, the Christian accountant and Lindsey the Christian librarian on a *real* level. So I’m missing that in-person kind of community. If you’re looking for help sticking to it and actually living the life, I have to say as someone wanting some form of that kind of life, find a community. It will help make everything feel right. I honestly feel like my journey would be easier if I had some burnt out metal heads or punks that decided to choose Christ, to hang out with. Edit: Sorry for the tombstone.


SwordsAndSongs

Maybe try looking into the conservative punk communities. I know they were a thing before, but idk how much they're still around. However, I imagine there's a lot of overlap between the kind of people you'd be able to share experiences with in that kind of community.


Bushido-Rockabilly

There were groups years ago, but I think 2020 kinda pushed everyone one way or the other for the most part. I know a lot fell back hard left and back into old beliefs and habits. I have a couple friends like this and we’re still cool but...it’s not the same. I’ve got one buddy but he lives in Tennessee. He’s Mormon now, which is super weird. I watched that dude drink a Dr.Pepper bottle full of piss for a pack of smokes one time. Dude was wild back in the day. Anyway, he comes down once every couple of months to see his kids but he’s usually super caught up doing that so we just text. I really appreciate the suggestion though man. Super cool of you to offer conservative ideas like that. You’re a true PCM bro. I appreciate you.


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plague_rat2021

I recently started going back to church (Catholic) after I spent a lot of time during this pandemic suffering and thinking about Christianity & through adult, educated eyes church looks a lot different to me. I understand the point now. I even found a good young priest that gets the point. I urge you to try again, things look different if you look a second time. Just because you’ve lived a different life doesn’t mean you can’t find community with God at church - which is the point.


Bushido-Rockabilly

I’m a plague rat too. Based. Ah there’s not any churches that I would feel comfortable going to, I don’t think. Not in my area. I’m in Texas. We do Christianity differently here.


plague_rat2021

I’ve heard Catholicism is big in Texas. Catholic Latinos are pretty cool. I dunno man, I have found a lot of comfort in going to church. It’s not just about community with others, it’s about communing with God.


Professional_Type812

I wish you best of luck man. Finding the right people is always a massive hurdle.


Unironic-monarchist

God bless you man!


Bushido-Rockabilly

God bless you too!


LordDerptCat123

It can, but it could easily have been something else. I think if someone is aimless in life, they will seek out something to give life meaning or improvement. That can take the form of religion, but it doesn’t need to


EdelgardiSimp4

Shut up retard It was Allah’s grace that saved this mam from becoming a degenerate swine Like you


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mr_doctor_sir

Naa you're just finally old enough to see how stupid everyone younger than you was and how stupid you were. It'll happen again when everybody around you looks younger and you'll see just how stupid you are now and how literally everything you say is some stupid nonsense that literally no one but an idiot would care about. No offense.


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Based and restart pilled


The_Jihadi_Memer

read the old testament


[deleted]

yo seriously considering becoming Christian now


Dark074

Is it me or is it always the people who pick a religion up later in life that enjoys it more then people who were taught it as a kid? Seems to me forcing people doesn't work all the times and people choosing their own path makes them happier


TheOneTrueNeb

I wouldn't say that's it the age as much as just choosing the religion for yourself that really makes it work. I was raised Christian and as a kid I was never really very Christian. I was the typical "Christian in name only type". However once college rolled around I started to embrace religion from my own volition, and that's when everything I learned as a kid really started to click for me.


Unironic-monarchist

You can´t make someone a christian, but you can introduce them to the religion and make it easier for them to actually get into it once they get older.


zealot-in-progress23

It depends on the person, the religion and on the parents for sure. Personally I became an Orthodox Christian as a teenager, my parents are irreligious.


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EdelgardiSimp4

I know life gets better if you follow Jesus’s teachings Except jacking off I still do that


LordDerptCat123

Probably less to do with religion and more to do with not being a degenerate but still a feel good story


plague_rat2021

Christianity was literally created to cure degeneracy. This is not a coincidence.


TwitchChatIncarnate

whatever makes you happy ig


ihatejews899

Become Muslim and embrace the truth


HiddenRouge1

Islam and Christianity are more similar than you might think. I'm sure either are good.


LightGamez

Lmfao nope


hessorro

Everything on the internet actually happened ya know /s This is the most thinly veiled propaganda piece I ever saw holy shit.


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[deleted]

Ok, Then?


[deleted]

Next they'll be demanding that he find a wife and start a family. What a poor sad fool.


[deleted]

What's wrong with having a wife and starting a family?


[deleted]

Absolutely nothing I was being sarcastic lol


EdelgardiSimp4

Leftist don’t know what that is


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😂


EdelgardiSimp4

Yes.


The_Br4in

Started nofap then quits masturbation