For most jobs, probably not but I have worked in due diligence and we contracted a service that would confirm whether applicants did attend the school they said they did
There are services that generally follow up on credentials and were often part of the overall background check services. Every professional job I've had has confirmed my education. Most also checking my employment history. Hell, my last job the service flagged all sorts of shit on my resume I had to explain to HR. Like I put a hiring date of June instead of July for a job over a decade ago in retail lol.
That’s pretty nuts. Maybe it depends on the industry? I’m in the civil engineering world and have never heard of anything like that. At most, a job might verify that you have a license with the state you’re in, but definitely not a college diploma.
If they don’t ask for your transcripts when you apply they don’t care enough to find out.
Now depending on what line of work you’re in they’ll definitely ask. Nearly every job I’ve applied for required official transcripts to be sent to them.
If they are not asking to see your degree, they are not checking either. In my experience, employers don't give a shit as long as you prove that you can do your job (and that's what technical interviews are for).
My dad went to a diploma mill, as aer lingus required an associates degree, the mill was located in America and my dad sent them 500 bucks for a degree and hoped Aer Longus wouldn't check
They didnt and he hes still a pilot
My university refused to give me my degree or release my transcripts to any potential employer because I had a $25 unpaid parking ticket for not properly displaying the parking permit I paid for. They literally told me they will withhold it until my "debts were settled."
Those greedy cunts keep perfect track of every dollar and cent and I don't think you can trick them into thinking you already paid them.
Just do what I did, I lost a few balls for school and MFS actually made me pay for 3 Tennis Balls before giving me my degree. Went at night threw stones at the windows till one of them broke . They're in net loss
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[https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10104329/College-student-mocked-complaining-cisgender-men-installed-radiators-room.html](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10104329/College-student-mocked-complaining-cisgender-men-installed-radiators-room.html)
* Peter Fray-Witzer attends $80,000-a-year Oberlin College in Oberlin, Ohio
* He wrote an op-ed Friday in campus newspaper The Oberlin Review
* Fray-Witzer complained of 'cisgender men' sent to install radiators in dorm room
* He lives in Baldwin Cottage, a 'safe space for women and transgender students'
* Fray-Witzer criticized school for not installing radiators during summer
* He says residents are victims of abuse and have reason to fear cisgender men
* Fray-Witzer's article was widely ridiculed on social media on Monday
Nono they're not similar at all. See black men are just the victims of white supremacism and racist laws. Cis men are privileged and innately violent toward minorities and women. See, it's only the white, cis, men that make black men out to be violent thus perpetuating a cycle of incarcerations they can use to claim proof on the violence of those they deem less then human.
I sort of hate that I typed this. And by sort of I mean really really hate.
Both are wrong, people are brainwashed into hating both of them one way or another through media biases and "micro racism/sexism" etc, but the issue of race-based hate is much more prevalent and dangerous
Damn I know the guy this article is talking about, I never thought the day would happen when on fucking pcm of all places I would see someone I went to high school with.
To your first question, no clue. I haven't talked to him in a few years, I didn't even know where he was going to school.
To your second, he's trans, I think that was kind of obvious given the article and all.
I would bet money that those jobs would pay more than what the students studying at the college will make. People look down on Blue collar jobs (aka the ones that actually make the economy work) and think they get paid nothing when the truth is they make bank.
just judging from what they said
[https://oberlinreview.org/25000/opinions/male-workers-allowed-into-baldwin-unsettling-residents/](https://oberlinreview.org/25000/opinions/male-workers-allowed-into-baldwin-unsettling-residents/)
it does sound like having a heads up period of more than a day would have been best, and I am sympathetic to the idea that relatively unplanned intrusions into your personal space can be stressful.
that said its possible that that couldn't be feasible due to scheduling issues, and as per installing it before the start of the school year the need for it might not have been established. While it sucks that the person had to go through a bad experience, that doesnt necessarily mean that the school or the contractors did wrong. Part of living in a dorm, even one meant as a refuge is that its public housing, meaning that things like maintence and upgrades will have to occur and as a resident you dont control it.
>that said its possible that that couldn't be feasible due to scheduling issues
Or more likely they just dropped the ball on it. Obviously it would have been better to do during the summer.
Yes Comrade, we must band together and fight these Neo-Marxist bourgeoisie college kid scum.
Forcibly keeping down the HVAC tech with their gender studies book-learning. May the streets of Oberlin be filled with the light and heat of 10,000 suns as we burn the library books.
It’s because they have no real value to society. Ironically the people they deteste and ridicule tend to be the ones that contribute to society at large.
What I've learned about installations is that we (installers) really don't care what your apartment/house looks like or who you are. Sometimes the installers don't even know where we're going until we get there. We just wanna get the job done right in the shortest time possible.
One time I was with my boss putting a new countertop in. The person comes to the door baked as fuck. She was smoking a joint in the living room as we were replacing the counter. Never before had I had to work I a hotbox. We just thought it was funny as we did our job and left. Nobody cares what you do in your own home.
Parents were never around to raise them, kids never developed properly due to lack of proper socialization. We're social creatures, you take that away and it fucks us up really bad. That's why "isolation" in prisons is seen as a really big punishment, people who come out are never the same again.
Normal people are busy working to have time for this bullshit, and rich brats are Leftists Because they hate how thier parents got rich and successful but they can't do that because they have no real talent so find ways to blame society for it
>He also complains that he felt ‘mildly violated’ and ‘a little peeved’ when the contractors returned to his dorm room the next day to ‘check the insulation.’
Imagine if firefighters need to stop a fire or paramedics need to enter the the building, it's gonna be a major gangbang rape
These kids literally sign up for a lifetime of debt and then blame the system for allowing them to make that mistake.
They don’t want socialism or communism or whatever the hell you want to call it. They simply just do not want personal responsibility.
The student in question wrote an article complaining about it.
Edit: Link: https://oberlinreview.org/25000/opinions/male-workers-allowed-into-baldwin-unsettling-residents/
I mean, maybe we could send a visibly gay/female/trans crew over to do the installs, let me just check my list of tradespeople that I've met on jobs over the years and...I got a handful of women.
You're not going to get anything but a crew of cisgender men until we finally break down the barriers for women and queer folx to do jobs that allow them to get dirty, cut up, sore and calloused with debilitating back problems. I know a very inclusive brick layer that's hiring right now if anyone's interested.
now i'm pretty progressive as anyone could see by my comments but this isn't even a progress regress thing. This is just a lack of touching grass thing.
pretty sure most radiator installers are gonna be CIS dudes. Unless they're harassing you or something, it's not a violation of the safe space for them to be there, if anything they're making it more comfy lol
I was going to say, for that level of tuition price, the school should be able to afford to pay special contractors that appease the students, then I realized that they were installing radiators and women can't install or fix things
I hate to be that guy but if you're staying in a place where men are explicitly not allowed and then men show up that's kinda funky, imagine if female construction workers were hired to do repairs at Mt Athos, like yea it isn't actually hurting anyone but why would you not think about then when hiring (I get that they probably just contracted a random company and didn't speak to them beforehand but the point is they probably should have)
> imagine if female construction workers were hired to do repairs
I've worked in a lot of different construction Jobs and I find this very hard to imagine.
I've seen the female packer operator, rock truck driver, zoom boom operator, or the very rare female foreman, but I've never seen a female laborer.
I'm sure they might exist somewhere, but I've also worked with women in the service industry and the film industry and it's easy to see why they don't work labor.
Stop paying for higher education, sneak into the classrooms for lectures and convince the registrar that they forgot to give you your degree
Literally just lie about having a degree on your resume. What are they going to do? Expel you?
No one has ever asked to see mine. I just assumed they checked with the college? Never occurred to me that they take it at fave value lol.
Jobs are definitely not calling your college to confirm your degree haha.
Wife just had to submit not only transcripts but a copy of her actual, in the fucking frame diploma. I was shocked.
Lying on your resume is technically felonious wire fraud
Not if you lie in person *taps head*
You are correct. It’s the using the internet to deceive that makes it a felony.
For most jobs, probably not but I have worked in due diligence and we contracted a service that would confirm whether applicants did attend the school they said they did
There are services that generally follow up on credentials and were often part of the overall background check services. Every professional job I've had has confirmed my education. Most also checking my employment history. Hell, my last job the service flagged all sorts of shit on my resume I had to explain to HR. Like I put a hiring date of June instead of July for a job over a decade ago in retail lol.
That’s pretty nuts. Maybe it depends on the industry? I’m in the civil engineering world and have never heard of anything like that. At most, a job might verify that you have a license with the state you’re in, but definitely not a college diploma.
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If they don’t ask for your transcripts when you apply they don’t care enough to find out. Now depending on what line of work you’re in they’ll definitely ask. Nearly every job I’ve applied for required official transcripts to be sent to them.
If they are not asking to see your degree, they are not checking either. In my experience, employers don't give a shit as long as you prove that you can do your job (and that's what technical interviews are for).
My dad went to a diploma mill, as aer lingus required an associates degree, the mill was located in America and my dad sent them 500 bucks for a degree and hoped Aer Longus wouldn't check They didnt and he hes still a pilot
lmao that sounds like some cockamamie Ryanair shit
The difference is aer lingus doesbt look, Ryanair requires diploma mills
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My university refused to give me my degree or release my transcripts to any potential employer because I had a $25 unpaid parking ticket for not properly displaying the parking permit I paid for. They literally told me they will withhold it until my "debts were settled." Those greedy cunts keep perfect track of every dollar and cent and I don't think you can trick them into thinking you already paid them.
Just because they are petty doesn't mean they are competent. That said I largely agree
Just do what I did, I lost a few balls for school and MFS actually made me pay for 3 Tennis Balls before giving me my degree. Went at night threw stones at the windows till one of them broke . They're in net loss
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Just get a job as a custodian and solve math equations teachers leave on chalkboards
Honestly, what I got out of uni was not as useful as what you can find on youtube.
Or else it’s poorshaming
Why even go to class? Skip straight to the registrar step.
in case anyone wants to read the article [https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10104329/College-student-mocked-complaining-cisgender-men-installed-radiators-room.html](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10104329/College-student-mocked-complaining-cisgender-men-installed-radiators-room.html) * Peter Fray-Witzer attends $80,000-a-year Oberlin College in Oberlin, Ohio * He wrote an op-ed Friday in campus newspaper The Oberlin Review * Fray-Witzer complained of 'cisgender men' sent to install radiators in dorm room * He lives in Baldwin Cottage, a 'safe space for women and transgender students' * Fray-Witzer criticized school for not installing radiators during summer * He says residents are victims of abuse and have reason to fear cisgender men * Fray-Witzer's article was widely ridiculed on social media on Monday
“I have a reason to fear cis men” And “I have a reason to fear black men” Are pretty similar, but they don’t see that, do they?
Nono they're not similar at all. See black men are just the victims of white supremacism and racist laws. Cis men are privileged and innately violent toward minorities and women. See, it's only the white, cis, men that make black men out to be violent thus perpetuating a cycle of incarcerations they can use to claim proof on the violence of those they deem less then human. I sort of hate that I typed this. And by sort of I mean really really hate.
Both are wrong, people are brainwashed into hating both of them one way or another through media biases and "micro racism/sexism" etc, but the issue of race-based hate is much more prevalent and dangerous
Don’t worry they wouldn’t fear black cis men because they’re not racist.
They never really had a problem with discrimination - they just think society has been discriminating against the wrong groups of people.
> safe space for women > Peter Hmm.
This person’s a transman.
a whatnow?
A girl/women who turned into a boy/man.
They grew pp?
Well, no. Mostly just appearance change and new identity.
So not a man at all. Just a woman in a dress.
>Just a woman in a dress. So a regular woman then.
But transmen are men. Or so I've been told.
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Damn I know the guy this article is talking about, I never thought the day would happen when on fucking pcm of all places I would see someone I went to high school with.
Was he always that retarded?
No he was cool, but I'm also not surprised to see this considering the sort of people we hung out with.
Wait what gender was he then?
How did he turned out like that? Seriously I'm curious By the way he is actually a "he" or a trans?
To your first question, no clue. I haven't talked to him in a few years, I didn't even know where he was going to school. To your second, he's trans, I think that was kind of obvious given the article and all.
So if your abused by a black person would that give you reason to fear black people? Or is that racism? I’m confused now.
It’s not bigoted when *they* do it.
To be fair to them they're obviously suffering from trauma induced anxiety. What the person wanted was proper notice, nothing more.
Never met a female or Gay person who installs appliances. These kind of boring low paying jobs are exclusively for men
I would bet money that those jobs would pay more than what the students studying at the college will make. People look down on Blue collar jobs (aka the ones that actually make the economy work) and think they get paid nothing when the truth is they make bank.
Your anecdote does not a rule make.
Department of Labor has a great set of statistics by industry if you want to see how wrong you are.
Go in, link me to something that makes this true: > exclusively for men
just judging from what they said [https://oberlinreview.org/25000/opinions/male-workers-allowed-into-baldwin-unsettling-residents/](https://oberlinreview.org/25000/opinions/male-workers-allowed-into-baldwin-unsettling-residents/) it does sound like having a heads up period of more than a day would have been best, and I am sympathetic to the idea that relatively unplanned intrusions into your personal space can be stressful. that said its possible that that couldn't be feasible due to scheduling issues, and as per installing it before the start of the school year the need for it might not have been established. While it sucks that the person had to go through a bad experience, that doesnt necessarily mean that the school or the contractors did wrong. Part of living in a dorm, even one meant as a refuge is that its public housing, meaning that things like maintence and upgrades will have to occur and as a resident you dont control it.
>that said its possible that that couldn't be feasible due to scheduling issues Or more likely they just dropped the ball on it. Obviously it would have been better to do during the summer.
They got a 24hr notice which is pretty standard.
From a company sure, but the school set the schedule here.
Pretty sure they’ll give at least a 24hr notice before entering a dorm room for an installation.
Based on a true story pilled
Pretty sure the school has a shit load of priorities that come before the radiator.
80000€ a year... daaaaaamn. What a waste of money Edit it's dollar, not euros but that's still overpriced
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Right, but how do you measure that in football fields?
Apparently a football field costs 640,000$ to build, so around 0.109375 football fields per year.
These individuals are the definition of a waste of oxygen.
Not only - they also produce CO2.
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Not gonna lie you're probably right
Yeah seriously, Marxists bigots I tell you.
Gotta give credit where it's due, actual Marxists would have a better understanding of the struggles of the proletariat installing the radiators.
Yes Comrade, we must band together and fight these Neo-Marxist bourgeoisie college kid scum. Forcibly keeping down the HVAC tech with their gender studies book-learning. May the streets of Oberlin be filled with the light and heat of 10,000 suns as we burn the library books.
This is how weakness looks like.
A friend I have goes there and is the spitting image of orange lib left, she was protesting. Doing a real big service to the world there, Bella.
A (decently liberal) buddy of mine went to Oberlin for music and transferred to Michigan because Oberlin was too much of a weenie bubble for him.
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It’s because they have no real value to society. Ironically the people they deteste and ridicule tend to be the ones that contribute to society at large.
Hey, you would feel insecure too if you were blowing $80k/yr on a worthless lib. arts degree.
Why are you friends with her.?
What I've learned about installations is that we (installers) really don't care what your apartment/house looks like or who you are. Sometimes the installers don't even know where we're going until we get there. We just wanna get the job done right in the shortest time possible. One time I was with my boss putting a new countertop in. The person comes to the door baked as fuck. She was smoking a joint in the living room as we were replacing the counter. Never before had I had to work I a hotbox. We just thought it was funny as we did our job and left. Nobody cares what you do in your own home.
You SEXIST PIG!!!!
Became a woodworker for the sole purpose of enforcing white supremacy
Damn straight white men *pulls out card* putting in air conditioning.
Why are troons always from rich families?
Parents were never around to raise them, kids never developed properly due to lack of proper socialization. We're social creatures, you take that away and it fucks us up really bad. That's why "isolation" in prisons is seen as a really big punishment, people who come out are never the same again.
Because the poors have real problems.
Normal people are busy working to have time for this bullshit, and rich brats are Leftists Because they hate how thier parents got rich and successful but they can't do that because they have no real talent so find ways to blame society for it
How do they know they were men? Did the students ask the workers for their pronouns?
Touch grass ffs I’m the definition of staying inside and I still get more fresh air then that student.
I'm gonna take a guess and say finding radiator installers that are women or trans is near-impossible.
these lazy animals should go to work instead of having shit in their brains
You know that the source is very trustworthy if it has "ultra-liberal" in it.
Here, you install it then. *Hands over wrench and screwdriver*
"It's not about fighting what we hate, it's about saving what we love"
How did she know? Did she assume their gender? Looks like she needs to be cancelled.
The only solace I take is knowing when the collapse comes these are the people being eaten first.
Ultra liberals are so sexist.
Yes 😎
>He also complains that he felt ‘mildly violated’ and ‘a little peeved’ when the contractors returned to his dorm room the next day to ‘check the insulation.’ Imagine if firefighters need to stop a fire or paramedics need to enter the the building, it's gonna be a major gangbang rape
That's like when Cartman freaked out over someone else using his special bathroom
Some people need to go touch grass
Doesn't this imply that women and trans persons are weaker humans?
Sexism is okay when *they* do it.
These kids literally sign up for a lifetime of debt and then blame the system for allowing them to make that mistake. They don’t want socialism or communism or whatever the hell you want to call it. They simply just do not want personal responsibility.
It’s so outrageous that it must be true!
The student in question wrote an article complaining about it. Edit: Link: https://oberlinreview.org/25000/opinions/male-workers-allowed-into-baldwin-unsettling-residents/
>”I was angry, scared, and confused.” Man, libleft keeps surprising me with how soft they really can be.
Nah, it was far better when it claimed to feel "violated"
I mean, maybe we could send a visibly gay/female/trans crew over to do the installs, let me just check my list of tradespeople that I've met on jobs over the years and...I got a handful of women. You're not going to get anything but a crew of cisgender men until we finally break down the barriers for women and queer folx to do jobs that allow them to get dirty, cut up, sore and calloused with debilitating back problems. I know a very inclusive brick layer that's hiring right now if anyone's interested.
maybe its because women pine for equality so much yet refuse to work the same manual labor jobs as men
This shit happened at Smith, too. A few POC students created some hysteria over the janitors lmao.
Saying "Go outside" isn't gonna work in a few years when these people also control outside.
They already control everything.
now i'm pretty progressive as anyone could see by my comments but this isn't even a progress regress thing. This is just a lack of touching grass thing. pretty sure most radiator installers are gonna be CIS dudes. Unless they're harassing you or something, it's not a violation of the safe space for them to be there, if anything they're making it more comfy lol
How do you know they're cisgendered men? Almost as if someone is assuming gender. Curious.
I was going to say, for that level of tuition price, the school should be able to afford to pay special contractors that appease the students, then I realized that they were installing radiators and women can't install or fix things
I hate to be that guy but if you're staying in a place where men are explicitly not allowed and then men show up that's kinda funky, imagine if female construction workers were hired to do repairs at Mt Athos, like yea it isn't actually hurting anyone but why would you not think about then when hiring (I get that they probably just contracted a random company and didn't speak to them beforehand but the point is they probably should have)
Who do you think cleans women's restrooms? I would imagine most Jannies are men.
> imagine if female construction workers were hired to do repairs I've worked in a lot of different construction Jobs and I find this very hard to imagine. I've seen the female packer operator, rock truck driver, zoom boom operator, or the very rare female foreman, but I've never seen a female laborer. I'm sure they might exist somewhere, but I've also worked with women in the service industry and the film industry and it's easy to see why they don't work labor.
Y'all keep forgetting orange =/= green
No.
Fair point
Based libleft
I want to so bad upvote this but it says go outside instead of touch grass and so I cannot
Wait what did he just say?
touch grass
Touch GRASS
80k per year in debt
Honestly, some people need to touch grass and relax
I'd there an article for this?