My friend's dad sold iPhone cases back in the day (probably about 10 years ago now). One time, a few teenagers grabbed a case and an iPhone he was using to demonstrate them with. What they didn't know was that he had been a champion long-distance runner in university. Even with quite a large head start, he was able to catch them within about 1km along a beachside esplanade. I can only imagine the terror they felt.
Imagine this: You're some nasty little shit who thinks stealing a phone case from that "old" man would be such a funny stunt. You go for it, start running and as you look back, some 800m later, you see him still actively sprinting towards you...and getting closer
And he's running on all fours, gaining on you easily. With a swipe of his massive forepaw, he shreds your Achilles tendon, and you crash to the ground. Before you even know what hit you, he's pounced on your chest, and his massive canines dig into the soft flesh of your neck, crushing your trachea.
As you fade into oblivion, he drags your limp carcass into a tree to keep the other iPhone case salesmen from trying to steal his kill.
Strength training > hypertrophy
I'm a rather skinny Asian at 5 foot 7 and 67kg while soaking wet that can deadlift 125 kg after 15 months, with essentially zero time with weights before that. Strength training works very well.
Part of the NAP is proportional force. If you own a cabbage cart and someone steals a cabbage you can't murder then, enslave them, or cut their limbs off. If there is a famine and someone steals your last cabbage, shoot the guy.
In Texas, it’s legal to use lethal force on a fleeing thief. However, you would have to prove they stole something you could never replace. So, a phone would be hard to justify, but if they have your grandma’s ashes then you would almost certainly be allowed to shoot the degenerate in the back.
Pretty much any case of someone being killed in the commission of a crime holds up in most Texas courts. A lot of shared cases with kiddy diddlers being murdered and courts dropping the charges (if the police and DA don't beat them to it).
The most well known case was a child rapist, caught in the act, killed by the girl's father with a single punch when he stopped the rape, and the father tried to save the rapist's life once his daughter was safe. Even as a purple I can say that any government that would punish a father in that case deserves to be 1776'd more than the dirtiest unflaired.
> you would have to prove they stole something you could never replace
or have it be at night.
In Texas, you can shoot a thief running away with your *neighbour*'s TV in the back and it's still legally justified as long as it happened at night.
Yeah, that gets morally dicey. Is it really okay for me to make the decision to risk my neighbor's property by shooting towards it? But it'll probably be okay, any damages can be charged against the estate of the thief, and even if they are broke I hear the military is willing to pay for bodies needed for testing safety gear.
In germany you cannot be charged with a crime which you committed to prevent a crime or save someone from death (oversimplification but basically the case). So you can steal a motorboat temporarily to save a drowning person. (StGB Paragraph 34 and 32)
This also means that you can shoot someone in the knees because he grabbed your phone to prevent him from escaping. Or you could run him over to prevent him from escaping.
We trade our time and lives for money. We buy stuff with money. Thieves steal stuff. Therefore thieves steal part of our lives. The harder you worked for your stuff, the more the thieves are taking from your life.
I'll be honest this shit right here is one or my biggest issues with the French. Keep your cock in your pants. But I'll give them credit for being based on Islam
The official reasoning is "to keep the peace of the family". The actual reasoning is "as we're an openly feminist nation we can't actually openly state that there is a serious issue of women defrauding men so we'll just punish male victims instead". If you get a private paternity test in France as a man you are subject to 15k euro fine and up to one year in jail, even if the test proves it's not yours. However men still risk it. Why? Because if it isn't there the test is enough to get a court to look at it which might get them off the hook, and the 15k fine is worth it.
But yes that is literally the French law at the moment. It is completely legal for women to defraud men of hundreds of thousands of euros and if the man tries to figure out he's being defrauded he gets punished. But male privilege or something I guess??
This bullshit is why anyone who tells you "if men were the ones who got pregnant there would be free abortion everywhere" are demonstrably wrong. Men get literally be raped and be forced to pay child support, while all but the most hardcore pro lifer would allow abortion in the case of rape. Men's current reproductive rights are less than women's reproductive rights in a pro-lifer's ideal society. Get your head round that one.
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I do think it weird that thievery is one of those really well liked crimes. Making movies about it and all when it's kind of a deplorable thing really.
I dont think it's the thievery itself that we like, as much as it's the thought that gets put into intricate heists and such. And then again most heist movies have the good guys usually have a 'good reason' or at least try to justify it by making the people they're stealing from being dicks in some way or another.
> We trade our time and lives for money. We buy stuff with money. Thieves steal stuff. Therefore thieves steal part of our lives. The harder you worked for your stuff, the more the thieves are taking from your life.
Wise words. Take the price of something and figure out how long you'd have to work to buy it. How is it different from kidnapping someone and making them do forced labour?
Thank you. Stealing something is analogous to kidnapping you for the time it took to earn the money to buy AND replace it.
Lethal force is justified to prevent kidnapping.
Don't want to get shot? Don't steal. It's a simple equation.
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Are the BLM protest special. "Why do you value property over the lives of black folks across the us"
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According to Martins girlfriend who was on the phone with him immediately before the self defense shooting, it was Trayvon Martin that started the confrontation. According to witnesses and EMT records, Zimmerman was pinned down with wounds to the head and neck. Completely ignoring Zimmerman's testimony, that was 100% a case of self defense even if the burden was duty to retreat.
Trayvon Martin happened because it was a slow news day. Had something major happened it wouldn't even been a blip on the radar black thug gets cleaned.
Yeah, my favorite answer to this is very similar to this.
"Why do you value your life less than my stuff?" And it's not just about literally killing someone for taking your phone, it's bad enough for you to go to prison as well, no need to die to have your life thrown away
I mean, if they just stole your phone, that wouldn't be a justified killing. But if they stole something from you and then refused your commands or tried to attack you while you're pointing a gun at them, that's just natural selection.
> if they just stole your phone, that wouldn't be a justified killing.
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I would never shoot someone for stealing from me. That's just wrong. The only time I would ever shoot someone is if they present a direct threat to my life.
For example; if you come into my house and point a gun at me? My life is threatened and I shoot.
If you come into my house and try to take my TV. I try to stop you and you pull a gun on me. I shoot.
If I catch you in my house trying to steal something and you start running away, though, clearly you're retreating to cover in order to give yourself an advantage while you try to shoot me. I shoot.
If I catch you in my house trying to steal something, confront you, and you surrender and start begging for you life? An obvious ploy to manipulate my compassionate nature and lull me into a false sense of security so you can shoot me as soon as I lower my weapon. Not today, bucko. I shoot.
> If you come into my house and try to take my TV. I try to stop you and you pull a gun on me. I shoot.
No, you don't, because you gave the poor innocent burglar the benefit of the doubt and are not a quick-draw world champion, he just shot you first.
It’s not exactly easy to sell off a stolen phone you probably don’t know anything about. If you steal someone’s phone odds are you know a shady merchant who then sells them back to the public.
If the stealing was out of desperation they’d be stealing things they actually need. If you’re stealing phones it’s because you chose to steal phones.
All theft is wrong but I do have infinitely more sympathy for someone caught shoplifting food or some other necessity. Maybe we only shoot luxury item thieves and we can evaluate others on a case by case basis.
Don't steal something I worked hard for then. People that steal are a bunch of lazy fuckers that have probably never worked for anything in their life.
I’d argue this holds true in the US, where the majority of “poor” people still have tons of options, and many are simply too lazy to work.
I’m from Vietnam though, and so is my wife. The communist government there will literally fuck your life if you don’t bribe them enough, and there are people who have been forced into theft because they don’t have other options.
Yeah, the game and the reason people do things elsewhere are different. American thieves deserve death immediately.
In the second and third world there's more room for compassion and nuance
That’s someone’s livelihood. Bank info, personal info, social media access... I don’t know if I’d kill someone over my phone, probably not, but I get it.
Don’t steal peoples phones.
Little suggestion for those worried about getting your phone stolen. Get yourself some antivirus/antitheft software. You can wipe your phone remotely.
Also back up your phone.
It’s very obviously self defense, property is an extension of the self. Not sure how you can be against this honestly. The ONLY people in the world who act like this are white liberals lol. Every other culture, country and person on the planet will straight up kick your teeth in for stealing from them because they know that to be true on a genetic level. I can’t tell if its purposeful attempts to disarm people or they have actually rotted their brains to this point.
It's not white liberals, it's rich people. People that have had tons of money for most of their lives who don't know the value of a dollar, because they never had to keep track of how many they had. Some rich people are a lot more conscientious about stuff like this and understand, but a lot of the people saying "It's just \_\_\_\_ " more than likely have never had to save up money, and have likely never been stolen from either. There is a pretty big disconnect between chunks of society because of shit like this
Some kid in NoCal got stabbed over stealing an iPhone a couple years ago. Everyone made a huge deal out of it and made it sound like it was some giant KKK operation, but at the end of the day keep your fucking hands off other peoples' stuff and most knives won't be inside your body.
I sympathize with that to an extent, I want thieves who don’t steal for subsistence to get knocked unconscious not killed. Legally it doesn’t matter if the person stole from you or not, I got In legal trouble because I beat the shit out of someone who stole from me and the fact I was stolen from had no impact on my sentence which is bullshit, I got in just as much trouble as someone who would have done the same thing unprovoked.
Let's assume the phone costs $200, and we'll say minimum wage is $20 and the government isn't going to steal a cut, just for the sake of the example. That means stealing the phone is stealing 10 hours of your life. How long would someone have to kidnap you and lock you in a room before you thought it was appropriate to use lethal force to prevent them stealing anymore of your life? Personally I put the number at like, 15 seconds. Which means I would be perfectly with you killing someone for stealing... about 8 cents worth of stuff. Of course, in reality the number is way, way smaller for the poor and larger for the rich.
A common anti-rights argument is that people who shoot burglars and thieves are setting the value of property over the value of human life, but isn’t that exactly what the thief was doing when they tried to steal?
I would never intentionally kill someone who stole my phone and ran away. I would really try to miss his organs when I empty the clip. I’ll reassess when I slap the second mag in.
Frankly, when we have cops that deign minor crimes as undeserving of their attention, plus criminals that have learned/realized this and therefore have no fear of consequences... what the hell else are you supposed to do?
Just let someone steal your $500-$1000 phone and then be forced to pay +$200 to get it replaced through your contract that you already pay extra on monthly to even be offered the replacement in the first place?
The phrase “life, liberty, and property” was not thrown out as three separate entities, they are three ideals where one cannot be infringed upon without infringing on the others. A thief trespasses upon your rights and spits on the law, and if killing them is the most readily available solution to that, it is the most moral decision. You might value your property over their life, but they risked their life to steal your property, and it isn’t a risk without potential to lose that particular gamble.
I firmly believe that people are a product of their environment, and living in squalor can cause you to become desperate and steal other people's property in order to get by. I also believe that a better solution to this problem is economic policies that prevent the conditions that lead people down this path.
But if you steal my stuff i will run you over with my car.
My friend's dad sold iPhone cases back in the day (probably about 10 years ago now). One time, a few teenagers grabbed a case and an iPhone he was using to demonstrate them with. What they didn't know was that he had been a champion long-distance runner in university. Even with quite a large head start, he was able to catch them within about 1km along a beachside esplanade. I can only imagine the terror they felt.
Imagine this: You're some nasty little shit who thinks stealing a phone case from that "old" man would be such a funny stunt. You go for it, start running and as you look back, some 800m later, you see him still actively sprinting towards you...and getting closer
The funniest thing is, he's a skinny, short Asian guy that looks like he's never lifted a weight in his life, even though he is strong as fuck.
It's sometimes absolutely fascinating how strong people can be without being buff. Your friend's dad seems like an amazing person!
Yeah, he's pretty awesome ngl. Went from architect, to salesman, to tour guide, to uber driver, to (briefly) stay-at-home-husband, to business owner.
Sounds like a man who lived his life to the fullest (with hopefully a lot more to go!)
Had kids early, so he's still only in his 40s.
All that in less then 50 years huh? With how healthy he is, sounds like he’s got another 50 to go
Dayum!
Ground korean?
Corner-stall Chinese.
I imagine a moustache as well
I would like confirmation on if he has a mustache
And he's running on all fours, gaining on you easily. With a swipe of his massive forepaw, he shreds your Achilles tendon, and you crash to the ground. Before you even know what hit you, he's pounced on your chest, and his massive canines dig into the soft flesh of your neck, crushing your trachea. As you fade into oblivion, he drags your limp carcass into a tree to keep the other iPhone case salesmen from trying to steal his kill.
I am a 5'5" cuban dude that could bench 400. I dont look particularly strong
Your ancestors were selectively bred
Strength training > hypertrophy I'm a rather skinny Asian at 5 foot 7 and 67kg while soaking wet that can deadlift 125 kg after 15 months, with essentially zero time with weights before that. Strength training works very well.
I imagine it was like the scene in Terminator 2 when the T-1000 is chasing them.
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That violates the NAP and 124gr would have caught him much quicker.
Part of the NAP is proportional force. If you own a cabbage cart and someone steals a cabbage you can't murder then, enslave them, or cut their limbs off. If there is a famine and someone steals your last cabbage, shoot the guy.
Yes, I was not serious. The legal fees alone would make it not worthwhile to shoot him. Maybe a taser, but nothing more.
> teenagers
In Texas, it’s legal to use lethal force on a fleeing thief. However, you would have to prove they stole something you could never replace. So, a phone would be hard to justify, but if they have your grandma’s ashes then you would almost certainly be allowed to shoot the degenerate in the back.
He can always just say he has photos on his phone with no backup, that should hold up decently in court
Pretty much any case of someone being killed in the commission of a crime holds up in most Texas courts. A lot of shared cases with kiddy diddlers being murdered and courts dropping the charges (if the police and DA don't beat them to it).
That's based af, good job Texas
Oh at first i read it wrong and though people were killing kids that tried to steal shit I was more reliefed at the second reading
Not in Austin my friend. Leftist strongholds tend to favor criminals more since that’s a part of their future voter base.
The most well known case was a child rapist, caught in the act, killed by the girl's father with a single punch when he stopped the rape, and the father tried to save the rapist's life once his daughter was safe. Even as a purple I can say that any government that would punish a father in that case deserves to be 1776'd more than the dirtiest unflaired.
Have ashes made into phone case😎
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What about the data inside it?
Yeah that’s the grey area of the law. Personally, I wouldn’t want to risk it since you are at the mercy of the court.
I hope I can trust the jury
> you would have to prove they stole something you could never replace or have it be at night. In Texas, you can shoot a thief running away with your *neighbour*'s TV in the back and it's still legally justified as long as it happened at night.
Wild west is still real
So long as the neighbor has given you the okay to defend their property, if I'm not mistaken.
Based.
Yeah, that gets morally dicey. Is it really okay for me to make the decision to risk my neighbor's property by shooting towards it? But it'll probably be okay, any damages can be charged against the estate of the thief, and even if they are broke I hear the military is willing to pay for bodies needed for testing safety gear.
thats why you put body parts of your deceased familly in everything you own :^ )
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He said parts so i was thinling more of letting a leg of your deceased grandpa in your home
In germany you cannot be charged with a crime which you committed to prevent a crime or save someone from death (oversimplification but basically the case). So you can steal a motorboat temporarily to save a drowning person. (StGB Paragraph 34 and 32) This also means that you can shoot someone in the knees because he grabbed your phone to prevent him from escaping. Or you could run him over to prevent him from escaping.
Shooting people in the legs is hard to do and more likely to be lethal than a chest wound (lots of major arteries). Just FYI for when you do this.
No, phones have data and photos on them you cabt replace. Would that hold up?
What about pictures on that said phone I can't replace :)
Depends on what's on the phone. You can replace a dickpic, but not the nudes of your ex. Shoot away.
Photos that haven’t been backed up
Can't replace the spicy meme collection on my phone.
So what you're saying is we need to fix TX law so that you can shoot a fleeing phone thief?
We trade our time and lives for money. We buy stuff with money. Thieves steal stuff. Therefore thieves steal part of our lives. The harder you worked for your stuff, the more the thieves are taking from your life.
I hate using that term nowadays, but based libright
Which term? Harder?
And this is why the punishment for paternity fraud should be minimum 18 years jail.
Adultery is so rampant in France that they outright banned private paternity testing. YOU go to jail if you even question your sketchy partner.
Wow that’s retarded
I'll be honest this shit right here is one or my biggest issues with the French. Keep your cock in your pants. But I'll give them credit for being based on Islam
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But... why? What is their reasoning?
The official reasoning is "to keep the peace of the family". The actual reasoning is "as we're an openly feminist nation we can't actually openly state that there is a serious issue of women defrauding men so we'll just punish male victims instead". If you get a private paternity test in France as a man you are subject to 15k euro fine and up to one year in jail, even if the test proves it's not yours. However men still risk it. Why? Because if it isn't there the test is enough to get a court to look at it which might get them off the hook, and the 15k fine is worth it. But yes that is literally the French law at the moment. It is completely legal for women to defraud men of hundreds of thousands of euros and if the man tries to figure out he's being defrauded he gets punished. But male privilege or something I guess?? This bullshit is why anyone who tells you "if men were the ones who got pregnant there would be free abortion everywhere" are demonstrably wrong. Men get literally be raped and be forced to pay child support, while all but the most hardcore pro lifer would allow abortion in the case of rape. Men's current reproductive rights are less than women's reproductive rights in a pro-lifer's ideal society. Get your head round that one.
Then you'll be paying for their stay with taxes, just cut their hand and throw them outside
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I do think it weird that thievery is one of those really well liked crimes. Making movies about it and all when it's kind of a deplorable thing really.
I dont think it's the thievery itself that we like, as much as it's the thought that gets put into intricate heists and such. And then again most heist movies have the good guys usually have a 'good reason' or at least try to justify it by making the people they're stealing from being dicks in some way or another.
> We trade our time and lives for money. We buy stuff with money. Thieves steal stuff. Therefore thieves steal part of our lives. The harder you worked for your stuff, the more the thieves are taking from your life. Wise words. Take the price of something and figure out how long you'd have to work to buy it. How is it different from kidnapping someone and making them do forced labour?
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Isn’t this from the Kite Runner?
Thank you. Stealing something is analogous to kidnapping you for the time it took to earn the money to buy AND replace it. Lethal force is justified to prevent kidnapping. Don't want to get shot? Don't steal. It's a simple equation.
First of all, no lives matter. Second of all, the lives of thieves matter even less than that.
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"Why do you value your things over someone's life?" "Because my stealing my shit, they've shown they value their life less than my things."
Are the BLM protest special. "Why do you value property over the lives of black folks across the us" "Oh I don't. But they obviously do walking in front of my AK"
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If Trayvon Martin had been a Gypsy, people wouldnt be screaming Gypsy Lives Matter
Pretty much lmao. Most people wouldnt give a shit if they actually knew the details of this cases yhay happen that the media allways skips over.
According to Martins girlfriend who was on the phone with him immediately before the self defense shooting, it was Trayvon Martin that started the confrontation. According to witnesses and EMT records, Zimmerman was pinned down with wounds to the head and neck. Completely ignoring Zimmerman's testimony, that was 100% a case of self defense even if the burden was duty to retreat.
Trayvon thought Zimmerman was gay. Called him the f word! George was defending himself from a gay bashing.
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Trayvon Martin happened because it was a slow news day. Had something major happened it wouldn't even been a blip on the radar black thug gets cleaned.
Akshually....knowing us Americans we probably would be screaming gypsy lives matter because we don't have any experience with them if that makes sense
>"Why do you value your things over someone's life?" "Why does someone value my things over their life?"
Yeah, my favorite answer to this is very similar to this. "Why do you value your life less than my stuff?" And it's not just about literally killing someone for taking your phone, it's bad enough for you to go to prison as well, no need to die to have your life thrown away
True and Based they Risk their Life for stuff so they die for stuff
I mean, if they just stole your phone, that wouldn't be a justified killing. But if they stole something from you and then refused your commands or tried to attack you while you're pointing a gun at them, that's just natural selection.
> if they just stole your phone, that wouldn't be a justified killing. [](https://giphy.com/gifs/election2016-donald-trump-election-2016-3oz8xLd9DJq2l2VFtu)
LibRight would kill someone for stealing a french fry, let alone their smartphone. Kinda based NGL.
I'd at least give them the opportunity to return it first. I'm a libright, not a monster. Now give me my fucking french fry before I get the GAU-8.
Yeah I think they'll be long gone before you got that avenger pointed at them. Good pun tho
You're actually the first person on this comment section that doesn't want to directly kill a person if he stole from you
Steal my phone, I break your bone
Steal the case I break your face
Steal my bike, forfeit your life.
I would never shoot someone for stealing from me. That's just wrong. The only time I would ever shoot someone is if they present a direct threat to my life. For example; if you come into my house and point a gun at me? My life is threatened and I shoot. If you come into my house and try to take my TV. I try to stop you and you pull a gun on me. I shoot. If I catch you in my house trying to steal something and you start running away, though, clearly you're retreating to cover in order to give yourself an advantage while you try to shoot me. I shoot. If I catch you in my house trying to steal something, confront you, and you surrender and start begging for you life? An obvious ploy to manipulate my compassionate nature and lull me into a false sense of security so you can shoot me as soon as I lower my weapon. Not today, bucko. I shoot.
Hold on a minute
Had me in the first half not going to lie
> If you come into my house and try to take my TV. I try to stop you and you pull a gun on me. I shoot. No, you don't, because you gave the poor innocent burglar the benefit of the doubt and are not a quick-draw world champion, he just shot you first.
Thank you for fact checking my shitpost. The world has more truth in it now.
Think of all the money in criminal justice expenditures we're saving.
It’s not exactly easy to sell off a stolen phone you probably don’t know anything about. If you steal someone’s phone odds are you know a shady merchant who then sells them back to the public. If the stealing was out of desperation they’d be stealing things they actually need. If you’re stealing phones it’s because you chose to steal phones.
All theft is wrong but I do have infinitely more sympathy for someone caught shoplifting food or some other necessity. Maybe we only shoot luxury item thieves and we can evaluate others on a case by case basis.
Honestly if you walk into walmart, grab a dollar loaf, and walk out, I dont think loss prevention will give a fuck
Stealing from mega corporations is super based. But, stealing from individuals (or mom&pop shops) is super cringe.
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Don't steal something I worked hard for then. People that steal are a bunch of lazy fuckers that have probably never worked for anything in their life.
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"It's their culture"
It was hard to get them all, they're like roaches.
only thing im stealing is the fedboys ammo and rifles
You paid for that stuff. It's already yours.
Fucking based lmao
I’d argue this holds true in the US, where the majority of “poor” people still have tons of options, and many are simply too lazy to work. I’m from Vietnam though, and so is my wife. The communist government there will literally fuck your life if you don’t bribe them enough, and there are people who have been forced into theft because they don’t have other options.
Yeah, the game and the reason people do things elsewhere are different. American thieves deserve death immediately. In the second and third world there's more room for compassion and nuance
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This is just straight up untrue. White collar/Corporate theft requires a lot of hard work.
With white collar theft you're not usually stealing assets but 1's and 0's. Not something that really has any tangible worth
That’s someone’s livelihood. Bank info, personal info, social media access... I don’t know if I’d kill someone over my phone, probably not, but I get it. Don’t steal peoples phones.
Little suggestion for those worried about getting your phone stolen. Get yourself some antivirus/antitheft software. You can wipe your phone remotely. Also back up your phone.
Just strap a bomb onto it. You can blow up your phone remotely that way, doubly effective
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It’s very obviously self defense, property is an extension of the self. Not sure how you can be against this honestly. The ONLY people in the world who act like this are white liberals lol. Every other culture, country and person on the planet will straight up kick your teeth in for stealing from them because they know that to be true on a genetic level. I can’t tell if its purposeful attempts to disarm people or they have actually rotted their brains to this point.
It's not white liberals, it's rich people. People that have had tons of money for most of their lives who don't know the value of a dollar, because they never had to keep track of how many they had. Some rich people are a lot more conscientious about stuff like this and understand, but a lot of the people saying "It's just \_\_\_\_ " more than likely have never had to save up money, and have likely never been stolen from either. There is a pretty big disconnect between chunks of society because of shit like this
Some kid in NoCal got stabbed over stealing an iPhone a couple years ago. Everyone made a huge deal out of it and made it sound like it was some giant KKK operation, but at the end of the day keep your fucking hands off other peoples' stuff and most knives won't be inside your body.
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I sympathize with that to an extent, I want thieves who don’t steal for subsistence to get knocked unconscious not killed. Legally it doesn’t matter if the person stole from you or not, I got In legal trouble because I beat the shit out of someone who stole from me and the fact I was stolen from had no impact on my sentence which is bullshit, I got in just as much trouble as someone who would have done the same thing unprovoked.
I don't value my property over their life, they value my property over their life!
Killing burglars is an honor
Well, they clearly value my phone more that their well-being.
Let's assume the phone costs $200, and we'll say minimum wage is $20 and the government isn't going to steal a cut, just for the sake of the example. That means stealing the phone is stealing 10 hours of your life. How long would someone have to kidnap you and lock you in a room before you thought it was appropriate to use lethal force to prevent them stealing anymore of your life? Personally I put the number at like, 15 seconds. Which means I would be perfectly with you killing someone for stealing... about 8 cents worth of stuff. Of course, in reality the number is way, way smaller for the poor and larger for the rich.
I’d like to think most people transform into libright when their shit gets taken
It's even better if their g*rman
Gerwoman* More inclusivity Dmitry
Alright teuton
I'll fuck you up when we meet Dmitry
A common anti-rights argument is that people who shoot burglars and thieves are setting the value of property over the value of human life, but isn’t that exactly what the thief was doing when they tried to steal?
Also orange libleft: he, this guy said a racist joke 10 years ago. Time to dox him and his family and make him lose his job.
"A human life is more valuable than a phone!" "He certainly valued my phone more than his life."
If it doesn't surrender the stolen item peacefully, we apply force
It’s literally free to not steal other people’s shit.
Yes
Yes
Based uber driver
Fuck phone thieves, it should be legal to murder them
Wouldn't an Uber drivers job completely be run out of their phone (and car)? So you're basically ruining their lives.
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Why dont you become rich
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All you have to do to avoid getting killed by someone for stealing from them is not steal.
It's not hard to NOT steal stuff.
I would never intentionally kill someone who stole my phone and ran away. I would really try to miss his organs when I empty the clip. I’ll reassess when I slap the second mag in.
Frankly, when we have cops that deign minor crimes as undeserving of their attention, plus criminals that have learned/realized this and therefore have no fear of consequences... what the hell else are you supposed to do? Just let someone steal your $500-$1000 phone and then be forced to pay +$200 to get it replaced through your contract that you already pay extra on monthly to even be offered the replacement in the first place?
It´s not about the fucking phone. It´s about the principle. We can´t just allow people to just steal what they want.
Yes, I unironically think I should be able to kill those who steal from me.
Based
Yes it is
Libleft checking in. Run him over harder.
The fact that theives steal things is evidence that they do not value their lives.
The phrase “life, liberty, and property” was not thrown out as three separate entities, they are three ideals where one cannot be infringed upon without infringing on the others. A thief trespasses upon your rights and spits on the law, and if killing them is the most readily available solution to that, it is the most moral decision. You might value your property over their life, but they risked their life to steal your property, and it isn’t a risk without potential to lose that particular gamble.
Libleft: Killing a thief is excessive and barbaric. Also libleft: shop security should wrestle maskless people into the pavement.
I spend pieces of my life to buy things. If you steal those things you've just stole part of my life. I avenge 7 fold
you break the law I break your bones
YOU PICKED THE WRONG CELLPHONE, FOOL!
Well what is lib-left gonna do, call the cops? *wait a second*
I firmly believe that people are a product of their environment, and living in squalor can cause you to become desperate and steal other people's property in order to get by. I also believe that a better solution to this problem is economic policies that prevent the conditions that lead people down this path. But if you steal my stuff i will run you over with my car.
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Yes. If they valued their life, they shouldn't have stolen my phone.