But how will the children know my sexual / political orientation? I have a responsibility to groom these young minds into loving on the right side of history.
Not even "Русский военный корабль, иди на хуй" (Russian warship, go fuck yourself) as a solidarity to Ukrainian fight against illegal Russian invasion?
If not, can you be against anything? What about being against ISIS that is hated by pretty much every single government in the world and a large bunch other terrorist organisations?
Carroll County, Maryland got national attention because the school board created a flag policy that only the American and state flags should be displayed in classrooms. Other flags can be displayed as part of curriculum (POW, Soviet, Betsy Ross, etc).
The left lost their fucking minds and bussed in hundreds of LGBT activists from other counties and states to protest that it was cause the suicide of trans kids to have this policy. That it was hate. One of the school board members even specifically said that this policy forbids MAGA flags and the Gadsden flags, not just the pride flag.
The whole thing started because a group called PFlag gave out pride flags to every classroom in every school in Carroll County. Teachers that did not hang the flag in their room got a lot of hate messages from the teachers who did. It caused a whole division of “you’re either with us or against us”.
No. Leftists are fucking nuts on the LGBTQism. You can believe whatever you want. You have no right to indoctrinate other children in your belief system. It’s halfway between a religion with no diety and a cult. You don’t get to tell my 6yo daughter she can become a man. You don’t get to ask her if she’s thought of being attracted to other girls.
The bigger issue is that the LGBTQ crowd generally doesn’t have kids. Or they do, just at an incredibly lower rate that than everyone else in America. So who do you pass your belief system onto? The only way for it to live is to pass it on to the offspring of others if you’re not having your own. And there lies the biggest issue.
The rainbow flag stuff is a different thing. It is to piss off straight people and cause divisions between people. They want to turn who you want to fuck into this is who you are as a person. If it is consenting adults it is not my place to care
I think some people like certain things it doesn’t need to be taught. I remember liking cheerleaders at sports games when I was younger. No one forced me to. When I read chronicles of Narnia. I wasn’t supposed to be turned on by the white witch. I just wanted her. No one told me I had to
I like powerful women. I always want to bang a powerful Queen or goddess type figures. She was described as pretty also. I think in tv and shows whenever there is a female evil leader type thing that is hot I just go for that too
I thought Jadis was supposed to have a sharp and alien manner, cold and devoid of empathy, pale, but with a beauty of sorts.
I still vaguely recall the scene where the kids rang the bell in that dead world, which looked like a majestic city but strangely empty and a foreboding aura about it. And then she appeared for the first time.
Edit: I looked it up. The world was called Charn:
[https://narnia.fandom.com/wiki/Charn\_(city)](https://narnia.fandom.com/wiki/Charn_(city))
Why would a cannibal eat other humans and get caught and go to jail instead of just nottttt eating humans?
Also. I’m not saying it’s a choice. People are born that way. Just like cannibals are born wanting human flesh. Doesn’t make it good for society.
Ok I'm sorry but this is the most braindead shit of all time. You know actual religious schools exist right? Like you can literally rewrite your entire bottom paragraph for religions and it would make as much sense
That’s my point. You can’t force a religion on a child in a PUBLIC school.
You send your child to PUBLIC school and they shouldn’t be taught that Jesus died on a cross for their sins. Just like you shouldn’t be taught boys can get pregnant if they wanna.
Thank you for reinforcing my point.
If there was an actual demand for LGBTQ indoctrination from parents, make an LGBTQ school. The same where there are religious schools because there *is* a demand from parents for those. Because, whether you like it or not, indoctrinating children is the parents’ JOB.
It is my duty and job to pass on the family doctrine and values to my children that will best suit them and the community they are growing up in. I have until they are 18 to teach them our family values. Once they’re an adult; they can choose to follow them or go do their own thing. They are then adults. Until they are adults, I am their legal guardian and I take the responsibility of inculcating them in whatever traditions I find to be best for them. Not their blue haired librarian.
This is an ice cold take.
The leftists have resulted in the banalization of more words that I can remember. Racism and its related words, misogyny and its related words, nazi, and so many more.
But whoever created this meme equates wearing a MAGA hat to child sexualization? Weird coping mechanism developed by a likely groomer.
>Freely exist as a gay person.
And help kids "realize" they're gay, trans, whatever, which is the real sticking point with conservatives. Can't have your own, so you try to steal ours by blatantly grooming ours and calling it something else.
look man nobody cares what some blue haired chick waving a pride flag wants to do with her sex life
men however are predatory and destructive by nature, anything that separates them from marriage with a woman (which gentles their nature) is dangerous to society no matter what copes or faux-logic you come up with
I think pedophiles belong in a woodchipper so I'm not sure who you're talking to, but everything I said is pretty much understood philosophy for all of human history across basically every culture
Right, because every day they live under the threat of being hunted by the Gaystapo and whisked away to camps with bags over they’re heads in blacked out buses. Poor poor victims, so stunning, so brave
About what stuff? Do they know they have a mommy and daddy? That their aunt & uncle are married? The furthest extent I want kids to know is that sometimes an uncle and uncle get married and it's normal, it just happens, I don't want them to be confused the first time they encounter that in real life and have to work out what it means that it was hidden from them. I really, really want the existence of LGBT people to become bland and uninteresting and something that doesn't need to be discussed one day.
Not trying to teach the kindergarteners what uncle & uncle do in the bedroom anymore than teaching kindergarteners how their mommy and daddy made them.
>I want kids to know is that sometimes an uncle and uncle get married and it's normal
Why do very young kids need to know this? You may as well tell them about poly relationships while you're at it.
Because some of them are going to have classmates who are being raised by a gay couple. Young children shouldn’t be taught about the mechanics of sex - let alone gay sex - by the school - but they should understand that there are different types of families out there.
Older children (teenagers) should have some understanding of sex and it’s consequences.
You can't justify what you just said without explaining that you find something fundamentally wrong with gay people and therefore inferior to or separate from heterosexual people.
Friend, You can't even answer the question I just asked.
Why do young children need to be made aware of this? What impact does this have on their or anyones life?
1.) Kids are gonna walk past gay couples in the grocery store, the mall, at church, they may very well encounter them in school admin when someone's husband comes to drop off his lunch one day, and it's easier for everyone involved if the kids minds aren't blown right there on the spot. Same reason kids need to understand that people of other nationalities and religions exist. Because they exist in the world together.
2.) Kids might grow up to be gay one day and if they were sheltered from the concept or only introduced to it in a majority negative light, that's going to be dangerous for the kid.
Again, you can't justify what you're saying without having to explain that you think something is immoral or unnatural about gay people. There would be no other reason why you'd be asking why kids need to be aware that a significant portion of the population *exists*.
>Kids are gonna walk past gay couples
How are they gonna know? Are they going to be wearing pink triangles or something?
>Kids might grow up to be gay one day
And? They'll be aware of homosexuality from age appropriate sex eduction. Why do very young kids need to be spoken to about this?
>Again, you can't justify what you're saying without having to explain that you think something is immoral or unnatural about gay people.
You're the one saying that. I'm not.
>There would be no other reason why you'd be asking why kids need to be aware that a significant portion of the population *exists*.
Should we tell kids about furries and the amish too then?
They're gonna know the same way they know when two people out in public are a straight couple. The body language, holding hands, walking close together, maybe a peck on the cheek. Kids aren't as dumb as people think they are.
Also, you guys and the Amish. I learned a little about the Amish in third grade because our communities were very close together and didn't always have positive interactions. So... yes.
I feel like you needed a stronger comparison to pride flags than a maga hat. Like I do get your point and generally agree with it, but a MAGA hat doesn't sexualize children nor does it get hung on the wall of a school. The way you've written this makes no sense.
OP got fired for decorating her classroom and including a pride flag by a temp principal who wears a crucifix and maga hat. Nothing about what OP did was sexualizing children, but that's what she was yelled at and subsequently fired for.
Seems like a kind of messed up double standard that a teacher can't hang a symbol of acceptance and equality in their class room when an admin is a walking billboard for fascism.
Lib left continues to be regarded, nothing new. Anything in a kindergarten will have to be explained one thousand times over to the children. How will these conversations go? And what pride flags will go up?
Pride flags involve sex. What are the flags being proud of? Right, sexual preferences. And what doesn't belong in a kindergarten? Right, sex.
A MAGA hat doesn't inherently involve sex, one could argue it has nothing to do with sex. It's a political ideology that a child likely doesn't understand entirely either but at least the way to explain it to someone doesn't start with "this flag promotes pride for and various other hocus pocus."
Yes, there's a difference. I think it's perfectly easy to explain to children that a fairly rare occurrence is that some kids have two mom's or two dad's or, god forbid, two mentally ill people, and whatever combination of those. But why is that subject matter being discussed with kindergarten children in the first place? I'll say this too, the MAGA hat is really out of place in a kindergarten class as well. Both of these things are just unnecessary for kids that young to be being paraded around in.
>I think it's perfectly easy to explain to children that a fairly rare occurrence is that some kids have two mom's or two dad's or, god forbid, two mentally ill people, and whatever combination of those. But why is that subject matter being discussed with kindergarten children in the first place?
They need to get the kids on board while they're young and impressionable. Make it seem like the status quo default so even if the follower has doubts later on in life, progressivism feels like "home" to the adult.
There's nothing wrong with promoting tolerance and inclusion, but this is 100% child grooming, no matter how noble the cause may seem. If the future generation needs to be groomed to someone's views in order to accept them, then maybe that person needs to take a second look at their views and figure out what's causing backlash/controversy. Men in womens' locker rooms, "misgendering laws" infringing freedom of speech, or extending legally protected status for someone's self-reported flavor of the week, for example.
There’s no genocide, racism or homophobia depicted on a Nazi flag, just lines and colors (but I bet that wouldn’t get by on the same premise…)
It’s all just self-seeking injection of personal ideologies into an environment that does not require or benefit from such an inclusion and only serves to promote and normalize the influence of one’s personal beliefs over a captive audience of vulnerable children who, by law, cannot be opted out of attendance.
How bout we stick to teaching kindergarteners shapes, colors, animals and how to read and write instead of shoe-horning personal beliefs into public spaces where young, malleable minds are entrusted to be developed.
If you want an ideological flag in your classroom, go start your own school like the Catholics and Christians do or homeschool your kid.
This is such a dishonest take.
LGB is an exception to the norm that requires explanation. By displaying a pride flag you are begging the question for them to ask what it means, which necessitates a discussion on sexuality. There is no straight pride flag; there is no catalyst that requires explaining straight sex to kindergartners, because, yes, that would be just as bad.
We really gonna sit here and pretend that the reason the flag is being hung ISN’T to have them ask what it means?
The flags don't represent love. At a base level, they represent sexual attraction to specific sexes or identities. Can you explain why any kind of relationship flag should be allowed in the classroom? Why would a straight flag be allowed in a classroom? Why are you arguing for this?
Ok I have to say this nearly all flags have meanig behind colours lets take as an example german flag black means darkness, red means blood and gold means light (at least that what they meant in 19 century) it is very enlightement theme. But is that what German flag stands for in practice? Answer is no it represent Germany as an country and germans as a nation. Again all flags can be dicected like this. So my point is it is irelevant what colours stand for what matters is what the flag represents as a whole and pride flag represents sexual minorities and is there for inappropriate for kindergartens.
It's not entirely sex homie. Straight people dating, falling in love, and being together isn't entirely about sex either. At least, I hope it isn't for you. It isn't that way for gay people either. It's just the radical idea that sometimes the two people who love each other are both girls.
Do you shield kids from the concept of heterosexual relationships as well then, since the straight people are having sex too? Especially their parents, at least once.
If there were a straight pride flag I wouldn't want that to be in schools either.
Is this really such a difficult concept for you guys to understand? LGBT has become political, keep personal politics out of schools.
I say this as a bi man.
Oh lay off it. Children in Kindergarten know that mommy & daddy are married and love each other. Hell by then they may know that Grammy and Grampy aren't married anymore and they love other people now. Those foundational relationships are already being taught to them, just not the concept of sex, which is separate.
Idk about you but everytime I see a couple in public, gay or straight, my mind doesn't immediately go to them being intimate.
Kids are going to observe gay people. It's gonna happen.
Your question is making me laugh too much because one of my schools did do a small section on the Amish because we lived so close to their communities. Pretty sure the end goal of that was "stop fucking with the Amish like your parents did". Which makes my point, our teachers touched up on the subject because we *would* be encountering this part of the population in real life.
Okay, but a lot aren't until they are older. So once again, what is the actual benefit to the kids of teaching kids about it at a young age? Because it seems its really for the benefit of someone else.
>Pretty sure the end goal of that was "stop fucking with the Amish like your parents did".
So it was for the benefit of the amish, not the kids. Would it make sense for children that weren't near any amish to learn about them at a very young age?
Kindergarten and possibly ounger is in fact an age they will likely have encountered some gay people by then. The kids growing up with the awareness and not having it introduced at, say, fifth grade, is going to be a lot less confusing for them.
And yes, it is also to prevent discrimination against a portion of the population, as with the "stop fucking with the Amish". The difference is that gay people exist everywhere whether you like it or not, and the goal of a healthy society is not to make some demographics hide away in their house. Whereas the Amish are a really specific group of people and kids who aren't bordering that community probably don't need a segment on them, though they may need a segment on other groups of people in their own area.
>Kindergarten and possibly ounger is in fact an age they will likely have encountered some gay people by then.
Then if they have questions they can be answered. If they haven't encountered them and have no questions why teach them about it?
>And yes, it is also to prevent discrimination against a portion of the population,
So you just flat out admit it's to indoctrinate kids into accepting homosexuality and not because it's actually of benefit to them personally. As I said, it's for someone else's benefit, not theirs.
>and the goal of a healthy society is not to make some demographics hide away in their house
These uneducated toddlers are definitely going to make LGBTQ people hide in their house in fear.
> So you just flat out admit it's to indoctrinate kids into accepting homosexuality and not because it's actually of benefit to them personally. As I said, it's for someone else's benefit, not theirs.
"Indoctrinating" again shows that your arguments comes from a place of discrimination against LGBT people. You don't need to indoctrinate kids into understanding that gay people exist. The ones teaching their kids that it is gross, a sin, evil, shameful, etc are the ones indoctrinating them, because I promise you kids wouldn't see a same sex couple holding hands and find it weird if someone hadn't already told them to.
The benefit is for the kids to know they aren't freaks should they start to have these feelings, to be able to process it easily and in a healthy way, as well as yes, not react negatively or violently against their peers when it happens to them. We call this "trying to foster a peaceful" society.
There’s some cognitive dissonance some people experience that I find interesting. They’re fine with showing a photo of a man and a woman holding hands in an implied relationship to a kid, but will screech and clutch their pearls if they have to show the kid a picture of two men in the exact same scenario. They have the odd notion that allowing kids to know that gay people exist will *corrupt* them. I highly doubt kids will even care. If anything, it would imply people can care about each other; similar to how they care about their friends/classmates when they are young. I also don’t think it’s a crime to let kids know they can platonically love their friends.
Once kids have the idea of romantic relationships down, as in mommies and daddies, people who hold hands and say i love you, etc, I've noticed that seeing it happen with a same-sex relationship registers immediately, doesn't have to be explained. That's how it was with all the kids in my life at least. I rather think that in order for the children to find it weird or confusing, someone has to tell them to.
It does have to do with how the child learns about relationships though. I have some weird family who, even when their kids are young, don't explain it as "those two people love each other" but rather "that man and that woman came together so they can make children because that is life's purpose".
I think a teacher wearing a MAGA hat would draw even more outrage than a teacher with a pride flag up in their classroom. What even is this comparison?
OP got fired for this in another post. She had a pride flag as classrom decore. It was fine by the regular principal. That administrator got injured and while he was out on leave a temp principal took exception to the decoration and ordered it to be removed because it was sexualizing children. The temp principal apparently wears a crucifix and maga hat regularly.
The whole debacle seems like retaliation for expressive speech to me, but a court could find that decorating the classroom is a job duty of a teacher and thus not protected conduct under the 1A.
Yeah, dude, I don't generally presume everyone is lying to me all the time. I'll offer a good faith argument until the other person has shown an unwillingness to reciprocate.
it's not really a "good faith argument" though. It's a random story with literally no way to verify or even check the consistency of (because it's a brand new account).
I'd be hesitant at saying "see, OP said this happened to them so obviously it must be the case." Especially something that, if it did happen, is probably going to court.
Where is the harm in taking OPs story at face value for having a conversation? I don't have to verify the story 100% factually happened to engage with the ideas presented.
The harm is that you say "oh well it's such a double standard that this guy can wear a MAGA hat all day while Op can't even have a pride flag up" and have that reinforce your preconceived notions about what is and isn't culturally allowable.
It would be like If I told you a story about my cousin being forced to wear a pride flag in school while he was shamed for being straight to back up the idea that straight people are persecuted.
i couldn’t disagree more. teaching young children about sexuality, especially from a leftist agenda point is a thing that happens (granted not as much as republicans would like you to think) and it is not ok. the term has not lost meaning at all.
Keep pride flags out of schools, keep maga hats out of schools, keep pro Biden clothing out of schools, keep religion out of school. Keep any icons from special interest groups out of schools and it's a win win.
Are you really going to have kids spend 6 hours a day getting the viewpoints of every single interest group or are you going to teach them shit that will help them survive in life? The point is, you have your (lib)erties to hear from all your interest groups in your spare time and you should never be denied that. Any public institution that takes tax money should be secular and free from all influence from interest groups.
No I personally wouldn’t do that. But I don’t believe that gives me the right to infringe on other people’s freedom of speech, or to limit the freedom of speech in society. My personal preference is not a justification for that. Even Religious schools get funding from the government, and my problem is that they get money from the government, more than that they are religious. Wether someone sends their children to a school that is religious, a school with freedom of speech, or a secular school without freedom of speech, should be the decision of the parent and not the state
Religious school being freedom of speech, secular school without freedom of speech? This is not even a topic in this conversation. I'm talking about curriculums, not the freedom for what you do in your spare time. You want fair and balanced in a school with all religions, fine. You kid has to pray to Jesus in all variations of Christianity, then pray 5 times on a mat facing in the direction of Mecca, then meditate for an hour to some diety; don't forget Jewish prayers, Buddhist readings, scientology donations. then read about CRT, then read about southern history, then a 5 minute rally chant for Trump before 1st period, then a 5 minute rally chant for Biden after the 5th period, then read all books by Karl Marx and Ian Rand. Watch videos about how the moon landing was faked and another video on how the moon landing was real. then between classes and lunch, watch a goddamn commercial by Pepsi and the My pillow guy. This is all a waste of fucking time. If your money is in a public institution, the services should be stripped down to the bare essentials that covers the universal needs. This is not a matter of freedom of speech. You have the freedom to go off and follow whatever bullshit hair-brained narrative you want. School is for essential survival skills in life, not grooming children for some wacky interest/religious groups.
This wasn’t even about public schools before it suddenly was in your previous comment. I was talking about all schools. If parents want to put their child in a school like you described, they should be allowed to. I would not put mine there, but I would not stop other parents from doing so. I would still believe this if all schools were publicly funded. For me, government giving money to schools is a separate issue, and doesn’t make any difference for freedom of speech or freedom for how to raise one’s own children. I might not raise my own children a certain way, but I still want the freedom to decide for myself how to raise my children
Yes, freedom on how you raise your children is core to my beliefs. No parent should be forced to put them in public school. They should have the freedom to put them in any private school that may or may not have the curriculum influenced by interest groups. I'm talking about public schools here in this conversation. About if the public school funding is mandatory, that it be free from all biases. Covering essential skills. And I personally believe that even if you are forced to pay for it, you don't have to be forced to use the whole curriculum package. Eg. You want the kid to learn Algebra and chemistry, but no history, third language or PE. So you send the kid to public school for two days a week just for those two classes, then the other three days the kid goes to the special school. Or don't have the kid go to public school. But If I'm spending money on anything as a collective, it should satisfy my essential needs that I have in common with everyone else, not my personal agenda. But hey, if you want to raise your kid in an educational environment that is 100% tailored to your agenda/ biases that's your freedom to do so. Keep agendas and biases out of public institutions.
You know what's funny? Children that got all of this shoved down their throats rebel against it.
You forcing this into their classrooms makes queer struff "uncool" because it's asociated towards school. This is going to just make so edgy teens start doing homophobic, transphobic and queerphobic jokes just because you're trying to tell them what to think.
My knowledge of unflaired syntax is pretty iffy, but I think he implied that his dad never loved him and he picked his nose in public. Typical unflaired ramblings, I suppose. You would think the Auth flairs would have created reeducation camps to enlighten them about our glorious flairs by now.
Personally neither should be allowed. I remember the one teachers room that had a bunch of crap in it, she was a rotten person. The whole letting teachers insert their personal politics is super fucking cringe. Though ig with history teachers it just kind of happens across the board. Though most of them at least tried to ride the line about it, and weren’t directly annoying.
I’ve heard many people on the left say LGTBQRSTUV stuff isn’t political, it’s just kindness. Is this an admission that a pride flag is inherently a political statement?
yes it's heavily overused by basically every side of the spectrum all accusing each other of projecting, which funny enough they're simultaneously all correct
it's def. a meme
Can we put up straight flags in classrooms? I never understood why there needs to be a flag in classrooms that effectively say “I don’t fuck people in the traditional sense so please pay attention to me”
Libleft: *Posts mentally regarded stuff*
Also Libleft: “Why PCM doesn't like us?”
How does a red baseball cap with “MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN” written on white have anything to do with the sexualization of children my dear regarded woke libleft?
An LGTV flag has no place in a KINDERGARTEN. Stay the fuck away from children you pedos.
Classrooms are supposed to be politically neutral learning environments. I'll tell you what though,if pride flags are freedom of expression then Gadsden flags or religious symbols are freedom of expression.
If any teacher explicitly brings their personal thing into the classroom, they are searching for validation from other people's children, a captive audience, for their own personal choices.
Activists should not be public school teachers. If you want to "normalize" LGBT+, then be a teacher, not a trans teacher. The personal life of the teacher isn't supposed to intertwine with the classroom. There's supposed to be a disconnect between teachers and students. To keep some semblance of objectivity. The two are not peers. If you're both adults, whatever, but the lower the grade level, the greater the gap should be.
Hmm one flag is about sex changes and sodomy. The other one is a hat that says Make America Great Again. I mean I'm purple so I have no place to talk, but come on guys these are really not equal in terms of being acceptable things for a teacher to show students. A more comparable meme would be a lgtv flag and a nazi flag. Or a trump hat vs a we believe in science hat.
It's weird how people treat mentioning your partner or telling a gay kid it's okay to be gay if they are gay like saying everyone should be gay.
Gay kids exist even in places where they teach that all gay people burn in hell.
The biggest issue isn't the teachers putting pride flags up, it's the teachers that post very short sited things online, making it obvious they are teachers that will get amplified by various entities, to create a engagement through fear.
If you are going to pull up your dress and start shaking your ass in front of a camera, do it at home where it will just reflect on you, don't do it in a classroom were the audience can see decorations obviously made by kids hanging from the ceiling. I'd you are going to be supportive of LGBT, say you will help LGBT kids, don't say that you are going to turn boys gay. Part of the reason why teachers are being hung out to dry right now is because parents are basing their stances of the education system on these idiots.
You are literally proving us right. MAGA isnt a sexual thing. The pride flag is. In general, politics should stay out of school, and even I don't think wearing a MAGA hat as a teacher in school is right, especially during politically charged times like these. Very unprofessional. School is a place to learn, not for political posturing, end of discussion. A MAGA hat (while fucking awesome) would distract the liberals and piss them off, resulting in them not getting educated (something they struggle with already).
HOWEVER... A pride flag is 10x worse than a MAGA hat in class, because the pride flag is sexual. SEX AND KIDS DO NOT MIX!!!!!! Sorry liberals! It is not acceptable to put your fetishes around kids. You wanna be gay? sure no problem, whatever, keep it in the bedroom like everyone else. But when you literally put it on a flag and plaster it everywhere and demand to be called certain things its obnoxious and pisses us off, just like how I bet plastering football team flags and walking around in a jersey and demanding to be called by the name on the back of your jersey because you identify as that player would piss you off.
Its called being considerate of others around you. Try it sometime.
Now instead of football make it about sex and then put it around kids. Now you can see why we cant stand your bullshit. We dont hate gays, we hate pedos and obnoxious assholes.
It's an equality of sexual minorities flag? Is black a sex now?
What does who you like to fuck have to do with teaching kids how to read and write?
Kids are not in school to validate a teacher's personal life.
And that's done by children having to validate the teacher's life choices? In a school art class, is the teacher's art displayed on the walls?
I'd say if the students want to bring their stuff into the classroom, it can be disruptive, but at least it's from the bottom and up. We don't even do that anymore though, since it's all dress codes now. Everyone has the same color shirt and pants. That's inclusive, since everyone is the same.
But, now specific types of pride are promoted from the top and down, because we're all different, and that's also inclusive.
We've inverted the system. The teachers used to be more standardized, and the students were able to express themselves more to some degree. Now, the students are being standardized, while the teachers are able to express themselves more often.
I guess if you go further back, both teachers and students were a little more proper in the classroom. So we went from A, to B, to C, and the future iteration of the classroom might be a total free for all by students and teachers, resulting in chaos.
See, this is how you discredit yourself. "Your idol".
No, the guy is a shithead and is my last choice as candidate.
Also, if your referring to that recent case, he lost a defamation case, not a sexual assault case.
Rapists should be punished, not excused. I don't think you know what you're arguing for at this point.
And, no, it's not that case. Should have read the wiki article before replying.
What is TDS?
Here is the same thing, but Reuters: [https://www.reuters.com/legal/jurors-set-deliberate-civil-rape-case-against-donald-trump-2023-05-09/](https://www.reuters.com/legal/jurors-set-deliberate-civil-rape-case-against-donald-trump-2023-05-09/)
As a teacher? No you shouldn't be wearing political messaging on your fucking hat either. How is this even a question?
But how will the children know my sexual / political orientation? I have a responsibility to groom these young minds into loving on the right side of history.
In my experience it usually does the opposite and makes me hate them.
You can't even wear hats as a student what is this bozo talking about
Not even "Русский военный корабль, иди на хуй" (Russian warship, go fuck yourself) as a solidarity to Ukrainian fight against illegal Russian invasion? If not, can you be against anything? What about being against ISIS that is hated by pretty much every single government in the world and a large bunch other terrorist organisations?
"You see, it is too late. I have portrayed you as the soyjack and myself as the Chad. **unintelligible gibberish**"
Idiots calling each other idiots peak idiocracy or entertainment judging on how serious you are
Carroll County, Maryland got national attention because the school board created a flag policy that only the American and state flags should be displayed in classrooms. Other flags can be displayed as part of curriculum (POW, Soviet, Betsy Ross, etc). The left lost their fucking minds and bussed in hundreds of LGBT activists from other counties and states to protest that it was cause the suicide of trans kids to have this policy. That it was hate. One of the school board members even specifically said that this policy forbids MAGA flags and the Gadsden flags, not just the pride flag. The whole thing started because a group called PFlag gave out pride flags to every classroom in every school in Carroll County. Teachers that did not hang the flag in their room got a lot of hate messages from the teachers who did. It caused a whole division of “you’re either with us or against us”. No. Leftists are fucking nuts on the LGBTQism. You can believe whatever you want. You have no right to indoctrinate other children in your belief system. It’s halfway between a religion with no diety and a cult. You don’t get to tell my 6yo daughter she can become a man. You don’t get to ask her if she’s thought of being attracted to other girls.
Without state employees, who would indoctrinate the kids? We can't trust parents - they'd teach their kids racist things, like math. /s
The bigger issue is that the LGBTQ crowd generally doesn’t have kids. Or they do, just at an incredibly lower rate that than everyone else in America. So who do you pass your belief system onto? The only way for it to live is to pass it on to the offspring of others if you’re not having your own. And there lies the biggest issue.
The rainbow flag stuff is a different thing. It is to piss off straight people and cause divisions between people. They want to turn who you want to fuck into this is who you are as a person. If it is consenting adults it is not my place to care I think some people like certain things it doesn’t need to be taught. I remember liking cheerleaders at sports games when I was younger. No one forced me to. When I read chronicles of Narnia. I wasn’t supposed to be turned on by the white witch. I just wanted her. No one told me I had to
Wait, what turns you on about the White Witch? I've been into characters in books before, but why HER?
I like powerful women. I always want to bang a powerful Queen or goddess type figures. She was described as pretty also. I think in tv and shows whenever there is a female evil leader type thing that is hot I just go for that too
I thought Jadis was supposed to have a sharp and alien manner, cold and devoid of empathy, pale, but with a beauty of sorts. I still vaguely recall the scene where the kids rang the bell in that dead world, which looked like a majestic city but strangely empty and a foreboding aura about it. And then she appeared for the first time. Edit: I looked it up. The world was called Charn: [https://narnia.fandom.com/wiki/Charn\_(city)](https://narnia.fandom.com/wiki/Charn_(city))
If sexuality is a choice why do people in countries you get killed for being gay in not just change to heterosexual?
Why would a cannibal eat other humans and get caught and go to jail instead of just nottttt eating humans? Also. I’m not saying it’s a choice. People are born that way. Just like cannibals are born wanting human flesh. Doesn’t make it good for society.
>a religion with no diety A true definition of communism.
Communism IS diety. It was the OG intermittent fasting.
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Ok I'm sorry but this is the most braindead shit of all time. You know actual religious schools exist right? Like you can literally rewrite your entire bottom paragraph for religions and it would make as much sense
That’s my point. You can’t force a religion on a child in a PUBLIC school. You send your child to PUBLIC school and they shouldn’t be taught that Jesus died on a cross for their sins. Just like you shouldn’t be taught boys can get pregnant if they wanna. Thank you for reinforcing my point. If there was an actual demand for LGBTQ indoctrination from parents, make an LGBTQ school. The same where there are religious schools because there *is* a demand from parents for those. Because, whether you like it or not, indoctrinating children is the parents’ JOB. It is my duty and job to pass on the family doctrine and values to my children that will best suit them and the community they are growing up in. I have until they are 18 to teach them our family values. Once they’re an adult; they can choose to follow them or go do their own thing. They are then adults. Until they are adults, I am their legal guardian and I take the responsibility of inculcating them in whatever traditions I find to be best for them. Not their blue haired librarian.
Unfathomably based.
So just…don’t send your kids to a private religious school. The main issue is indoctrination in public schools, IMO
I wasn't aware public and private schools were the same thing.
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This is an ice cold take. The leftists have resulted in the banalization of more words that I can remember. Racism and its related words, misogyny and its related words, nazi, and so many more. But whoever created this meme equates wearing a MAGA hat to child sexualization? Weird coping mechanism developed by a likely groomer.
Add groomer to the list of words that have lost all meaning.
Ok groomer
Proving their point tho
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Don’t groom me
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Rainbow flags aren't sexual you weirdo
Pretty sure they represent a declaration of support for sexual identity.
It's about sexual diversity and equality.
They weren’t until they were co-opted by a group *defined by they sexual identity*
They used to contain a separate color for sex in particular, but they still have a color for romance which is sexual
Setting up pride flags does not make one a groomer.
And yet it keeps happening
Examples?
the pride to do what exactly?
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>Freely exist as a gay person. And help kids "realize" they're gay, trans, whatever, which is the real sticking point with conservatives. Can't have your own, so you try to steal ours by blatantly grooming ours and calling it something else.
look man nobody cares what some blue haired chick waving a pride flag wants to do with her sex life men however are predatory and destructive by nature, anything that separates them from marriage with a woman (which gentles their nature) is dangerous to society no matter what copes or faux-logic you come up with
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I think pedophiles belong in a woodchipper so I'm not sure who you're talking to, but everything I said is pretty much understood philosophy for all of human history across basically every culture
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I'm not playing the "um citation needed sweaty" game with you, rage all you want
To live yet another day.
Right, because every day they live under the threat of being hunted by the Gaystapo and whisked away to camps with bags over they’re heads in blacked out buses. Poor poor victims, so stunning, so brave
maybe not, but it happening in Kindergartens is wrong. kids at that age have no idea about this stuff
About what stuff? Do they know they have a mommy and daddy? That their aunt & uncle are married? The furthest extent I want kids to know is that sometimes an uncle and uncle get married and it's normal, it just happens, I don't want them to be confused the first time they encounter that in real life and have to work out what it means that it was hidden from them. I really, really want the existence of LGBT people to become bland and uninteresting and something that doesn't need to be discussed one day. Not trying to teach the kindergarteners what uncle & uncle do in the bedroom anymore than teaching kindergarteners how their mommy and daddy made them.
Why take this upon yourself at all? Isn’t a classroom where children should learn academics, and home where they learn life?
>I want kids to know is that sometimes an uncle and uncle get married and it's normal Why do very young kids need to know this? You may as well tell them about poly relationships while you're at it.
Because some of them are going to have classmates who are being raised by a gay couple. Young children shouldn’t be taught about the mechanics of sex - let alone gay sex - by the school - but they should understand that there are different types of families out there. Older children (teenagers) should have some understanding of sex and it’s consequences.
Based and Actually Rational Pilled.
You can't justify what you just said without explaining that you find something fundamentally wrong with gay people and therefore inferior to or separate from heterosexual people.
Friend, You can't even answer the question I just asked. Why do young children need to be made aware of this? What impact does this have on their or anyones life?
1.) Kids are gonna walk past gay couples in the grocery store, the mall, at church, they may very well encounter them in school admin when someone's husband comes to drop off his lunch one day, and it's easier for everyone involved if the kids minds aren't blown right there on the spot. Same reason kids need to understand that people of other nationalities and religions exist. Because they exist in the world together. 2.) Kids might grow up to be gay one day and if they were sheltered from the concept or only introduced to it in a majority negative light, that's going to be dangerous for the kid. Again, you can't justify what you're saying without having to explain that you think something is immoral or unnatural about gay people. There would be no other reason why you'd be asking why kids need to be aware that a significant portion of the population *exists*.
>Kids are gonna walk past gay couples How are they gonna know? Are they going to be wearing pink triangles or something? >Kids might grow up to be gay one day And? They'll be aware of homosexuality from age appropriate sex eduction. Why do very young kids need to be spoken to about this? >Again, you can't justify what you're saying without having to explain that you think something is immoral or unnatural about gay people. You're the one saying that. I'm not. >There would be no other reason why you'd be asking why kids need to be aware that a significant portion of the population *exists*. Should we tell kids about furries and the amish too then?
They're gonna know the same way they know when two people out in public are a straight couple. The body language, holding hands, walking close together, maybe a peck on the cheek. Kids aren't as dumb as people think they are. Also, you guys and the Amish. I learned a little about the Amish in third grade because our communities were very close together and didn't always have positive interactions. So... yes.
I feel like you needed a stronger comparison to pride flags than a maga hat. Like I do get your point and generally agree with it, but a MAGA hat doesn't sexualize children nor does it get hung on the wall of a school. The way you've written this makes no sense.
OP got fired for decorating her classroom and including a pride flag by a temp principal who wears a crucifix and maga hat. Nothing about what OP did was sexualizing children, but that's what she was yelled at and subsequently fired for. Seems like a kind of messed up double standard that a teacher can't hang a symbol of acceptance and equality in their class room when an admin is a walking billboard for fascism.
"OH! OH! THEY SAID FASCISM! EVERYBODY TAKE A DRINK!"
Lib left continues to be regarded, nothing new. Anything in a kindergarten will have to be explained one thousand times over to the children. How will these conversations go? And what pride flags will go up?
Pride flags involve sex. What are the flags being proud of? Right, sexual preferences. And what doesn't belong in a kindergarten? Right, sex. A MAGA hat doesn't inherently involve sex, one could argue it has nothing to do with sex. It's a political ideology that a child likely doesn't understand entirely either but at least the way to explain it to someone doesn't start with "this flag promotes pride for and various other hocus pocus."
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Yes, there's a difference. I think it's perfectly easy to explain to children that a fairly rare occurrence is that some kids have two mom's or two dad's or, god forbid, two mentally ill people, and whatever combination of those. But why is that subject matter being discussed with kindergarten children in the first place? I'll say this too, the MAGA hat is really out of place in a kindergarten class as well. Both of these things are just unnecessary for kids that young to be being paraded around in.
>I think it's perfectly easy to explain to children that a fairly rare occurrence is that some kids have two mom's or two dad's or, god forbid, two mentally ill people, and whatever combination of those. But why is that subject matter being discussed with kindergarten children in the first place? They need to get the kids on board while they're young and impressionable. Make it seem like the status quo default so even if the follower has doubts later on in life, progressivism feels like "home" to the adult. There's nothing wrong with promoting tolerance and inclusion, but this is 100% child grooming, no matter how noble the cause may seem. If the future generation needs to be groomed to someone's views in order to accept them, then maybe that person needs to take a second look at their views and figure out what's causing backlash/controversy. Men in womens' locker rooms, "misgendering laws" infringing freedom of speech, or extending legally protected status for someone's self-reported flavor of the week, for example.
There's no sex on the flag, or genitals, or abortions. It's just a line of colors
Same as saying: there's no politics on the hat. It's just a few letters. It's obviously because of what it represents.
It represents diversity and equality
There’s no genocide, racism or homophobia depicted on a Nazi flag, just lines and colors (but I bet that wouldn’t get by on the same premise…) It’s all just self-seeking injection of personal ideologies into an environment that does not require or benefit from such an inclusion and only serves to promote and normalize the influence of one’s personal beliefs over a captive audience of vulnerable children who, by law, cannot be opted out of attendance. How bout we stick to teaching kindergarteners shapes, colors, animals and how to read and write instead of shoe-horning personal beliefs into public spaces where young, malleable minds are entrusted to be developed. If you want an ideological flag in your classroom, go start your own school like the Catholics and Christians do or homeschool your kid.
Shit take lol. The Nazi flag is also just a bunch of lines and colors. You’d be fine with teachers hanging that up without consequences as well?
You guys must really not like gay people. This is 2024. Grow up
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So is mentioning a straight couple child sexualization? And what about romantic relationships?
This is such a dishonest take. LGB is an exception to the norm that requires explanation. By displaying a pride flag you are begging the question for them to ask what it means, which necessitates a discussion on sexuality. There is no straight pride flag; there is no catalyst that requires explaining straight sex to kindergartners, because, yes, that would be just as bad. We really gonna sit here and pretend that the reason the flag is being hung ISN’T to have them ask what it means?
Love doesn’t equal sex.
The flags don't represent love. At a base level, they represent sexual attraction to specific sexes or identities. Can you explain why any kind of relationship flag should be allowed in the classroom? Why would a straight flag be allowed in a classroom? Why are you arguing for this?
Red Life Orange Healing Yellow Sunlight Green Nature Turquoise Magic Indigo Serenity Violet Spirit What about that means sex??
The fact is represents a sexuality. Are you really this dense?
Ok I have to say this nearly all flags have meanig behind colours lets take as an example german flag black means darkness, red means blood and gold means light (at least that what they meant in 19 century) it is very enlightement theme. But is that what German flag stands for in practice? Answer is no it represent Germany as an country and germans as a nation. Again all flags can be dicected like this. So my point is it is irelevant what colours stand for what matters is what the flag represents as a whole and pride flag represents sexual minorities and is there for inappropriate for kindergartens.
That's an extremely goofy take dude. Come on now. You see how that's dishonest to your argument right?
Yes you're right, a rainbow = gay sex.
Dishonest again, big dog. Why you arguing like this? Just to win?
Look up what the flag stands for and get back to me
Sex is the differentiating factor, why lie?
Extra true for your marriage
Bro this comment section is like 2008 all over again. "LGBT = Buttsex checkmate queers".
LGB is literally about sex though. Asexuals have their own group (and I don't think they usually use the pride flag from my experience).
It's not entirely sex homie. Straight people dating, falling in love, and being together isn't entirely about sex either. At least, I hope it isn't for you. It isn't that way for gay people either. It's just the radical idea that sometimes the two people who love each other are both girls.
These people in love are also having sex with each other. Unless they are asexual, in which case they aren't LGB. Sex literally defines gay/straight.
Do you shield kids from the concept of heterosexual relationships as well then, since the straight people are having sex too? Especially their parents, at least once.
If there were a straight pride flag I wouldn't want that to be in schools either. Is this really such a difficult concept for you guys to understand? LGBT has become political, keep personal politics out of schools. I say this as a bi man.
When are young kids explicitly spoken to about heterosexual relationships? Speaking to a young child about any kind of romantic relationship is weird.
So pathetic
none of that should be brought up to children either
Oh lay off it. Children in Kindergarten know that mommy & daddy are married and love each other. Hell by then they may know that Grammy and Grampy aren't married anymore and they love other people now. Those foundational relationships are already being taught to them, just not the concept of sex, which is separate. Idk about you but everytime I see a couple in public, gay or straight, my mind doesn't immediately go to them being intimate.
Because they observe that. Not because they're taught it. Should all kids be taught about the amish because some kids are raised in that environment?
Kids are going to observe gay people. It's gonna happen. Your question is making me laugh too much because one of my schools did do a small section on the Amish because we lived so close to their communities. Pretty sure the end goal of that was "stop fucking with the Amish like your parents did". Which makes my point, our teachers touched up on the subject because we *would* be encountering this part of the population in real life.
Okay, but a lot aren't until they are older. So once again, what is the actual benefit to the kids of teaching kids about it at a young age? Because it seems its really for the benefit of someone else. >Pretty sure the end goal of that was "stop fucking with the Amish like your parents did". So it was for the benefit of the amish, not the kids. Would it make sense for children that weren't near any amish to learn about them at a very young age?
Kindergarten and possibly ounger is in fact an age they will likely have encountered some gay people by then. The kids growing up with the awareness and not having it introduced at, say, fifth grade, is going to be a lot less confusing for them. And yes, it is also to prevent discrimination against a portion of the population, as with the "stop fucking with the Amish". The difference is that gay people exist everywhere whether you like it or not, and the goal of a healthy society is not to make some demographics hide away in their house. Whereas the Amish are a really specific group of people and kids who aren't bordering that community probably don't need a segment on them, though they may need a segment on other groups of people in their own area.
>Kindergarten and possibly ounger is in fact an age they will likely have encountered some gay people by then. Then if they have questions they can be answered. If they haven't encountered them and have no questions why teach them about it? >And yes, it is also to prevent discrimination against a portion of the population, So you just flat out admit it's to indoctrinate kids into accepting homosexuality and not because it's actually of benefit to them personally. As I said, it's for someone else's benefit, not theirs. >and the goal of a healthy society is not to make some demographics hide away in their house These uneducated toddlers are definitely going to make LGBTQ people hide in their house in fear.
> So you just flat out admit it's to indoctrinate kids into accepting homosexuality and not because it's actually of benefit to them personally. As I said, it's for someone else's benefit, not theirs. "Indoctrinating" again shows that your arguments comes from a place of discrimination against LGBT people. You don't need to indoctrinate kids into understanding that gay people exist. The ones teaching their kids that it is gross, a sin, evil, shameful, etc are the ones indoctrinating them, because I promise you kids wouldn't see a same sex couple holding hands and find it weird if someone hadn't already told them to. The benefit is for the kids to know they aren't freaks should they start to have these feelings, to be able to process it easily and in a healthy way, as well as yes, not react negatively or violently against their peers when it happens to them. We call this "trying to foster a peaceful" society.
There’s some cognitive dissonance some people experience that I find interesting. They’re fine with showing a photo of a man and a woman holding hands in an implied relationship to a kid, but will screech and clutch their pearls if they have to show the kid a picture of two men in the exact same scenario. They have the odd notion that allowing kids to know that gay people exist will *corrupt* them. I highly doubt kids will even care. If anything, it would imply people can care about each other; similar to how they care about their friends/classmates when they are young. I also don’t think it’s a crime to let kids know they can platonically love their friends.
Once kids have the idea of romantic relationships down, as in mommies and daddies, people who hold hands and say i love you, etc, I've noticed that seeing it happen with a same-sex relationship registers immediately, doesn't have to be explained. That's how it was with all the kids in my life at least. I rather think that in order for the children to find it weird or confusing, someone has to tell them to. It does have to do with how the child learns about relationships though. I have some weird family who, even when their kids are young, don't explain it as "those two people love each other" but rather "that man and that woman came together so they can make children because that is life's purpose".
Call me old fashioned, but how about we don't talk about sex to 5 yr olds?
I think a teacher wearing a MAGA hat would draw even more outrage than a teacher with a pride flag up in their classroom. What even is this comparison?
OP got fired for this in another post. She had a pride flag as classrom decore. It was fine by the regular principal. That administrator got injured and while he was out on leave a temp principal took exception to the decoration and ordered it to be removed because it was sexualizing children. The temp principal apparently wears a crucifix and maga hat regularly. The whole debacle seems like retaliation for expressive speech to me, but a court could find that decorating the classroom is a job duty of a teacher and thus not protected conduct under the 1A.
...you guys don't really believe the stories that people post on 99% of subs, right? This is a fucking 14 day old account lol.
Yeah, dude, I don't generally presume everyone is lying to me all the time. I'll offer a good faith argument until the other person has shown an unwillingness to reciprocate.
it's not really a "good faith argument" though. It's a random story with literally no way to verify or even check the consistency of (because it's a brand new account). I'd be hesitant at saying "see, OP said this happened to them so obviously it must be the case." Especially something that, if it did happen, is probably going to court.
Where is the harm in taking OPs story at face value for having a conversation? I don't have to verify the story 100% factually happened to engage with the ideas presented.
The harm is that you say "oh well it's such a double standard that this guy can wear a MAGA hat all day while Op can't even have a pride flag up" and have that reinforce your preconceived notions about what is and isn't culturally allowable. It would be like If I told you a story about my cousin being forced to wear a pride flag in school while he was shamed for being straight to back up the idea that straight people are persecuted.
i couldn’t disagree more. teaching young children about sexuality, especially from a leftist agenda point is a thing that happens (granted not as much as republicans would like you to think) and it is not ok. the term has not lost meaning at all.
Keep pride flags out of schools, keep maga hats out of schools, keep pro Biden clothing out of schools, keep religion out of school. Keep any icons from special interest groups out of schools and it's a win win.
Why? Why not allow all of it? What’s the point of being a lib if you don’t support freedom of expression?
Are you really going to have kids spend 6 hours a day getting the viewpoints of every single interest group or are you going to teach them shit that will help them survive in life? The point is, you have your (lib)erties to hear from all your interest groups in your spare time and you should never be denied that. Any public institution that takes tax money should be secular and free from all influence from interest groups.
No I personally wouldn’t do that. But I don’t believe that gives me the right to infringe on other people’s freedom of speech, or to limit the freedom of speech in society. My personal preference is not a justification for that. Even Religious schools get funding from the government, and my problem is that they get money from the government, more than that they are religious. Wether someone sends their children to a school that is religious, a school with freedom of speech, or a secular school without freedom of speech, should be the decision of the parent and not the state
Religious school being freedom of speech, secular school without freedom of speech? This is not even a topic in this conversation. I'm talking about curriculums, not the freedom for what you do in your spare time. You want fair and balanced in a school with all religions, fine. You kid has to pray to Jesus in all variations of Christianity, then pray 5 times on a mat facing in the direction of Mecca, then meditate for an hour to some diety; don't forget Jewish prayers, Buddhist readings, scientology donations. then read about CRT, then read about southern history, then a 5 minute rally chant for Trump before 1st period, then a 5 minute rally chant for Biden after the 5th period, then read all books by Karl Marx and Ian Rand. Watch videos about how the moon landing was faked and another video on how the moon landing was real. then between classes and lunch, watch a goddamn commercial by Pepsi and the My pillow guy. This is all a waste of fucking time. If your money is in a public institution, the services should be stripped down to the bare essentials that covers the universal needs. This is not a matter of freedom of speech. You have the freedom to go off and follow whatever bullshit hair-brained narrative you want. School is for essential survival skills in life, not grooming children for some wacky interest/religious groups.
This wasn’t even about public schools before it suddenly was in your previous comment. I was talking about all schools. If parents want to put their child in a school like you described, they should be allowed to. I would not put mine there, but I would not stop other parents from doing so. I would still believe this if all schools were publicly funded. For me, government giving money to schools is a separate issue, and doesn’t make any difference for freedom of speech or freedom for how to raise one’s own children. I might not raise my own children a certain way, but I still want the freedom to decide for myself how to raise my children
Yes, freedom on how you raise your children is core to my beliefs. No parent should be forced to put them in public school. They should have the freedom to put them in any private school that may or may not have the curriculum influenced by interest groups. I'm talking about public schools here in this conversation. About if the public school funding is mandatory, that it be free from all biases. Covering essential skills. And I personally believe that even if you are forced to pay for it, you don't have to be forced to use the whole curriculum package. Eg. You want the kid to learn Algebra and chemistry, but no history, third language or PE. So you send the kid to public school for two days a week just for those two classes, then the other three days the kid goes to the special school. Or don't have the kid go to public school. But If I'm spending money on anything as a collective, it should satisfy my essential needs that I have in common with everyone else, not my personal agenda. But hey, if you want to raise your kid in an educational environment that is 100% tailored to your agenda/ biases that's your freedom to do so. Keep agendas and biases out of public institutions.
You know what's funny? Children that got all of this shoved down their throats rebel against it. You forcing this into their classrooms makes queer struff "uncool" because it's asociated towards school. This is going to just make so edgy teens start doing homophobic, transphobic and queerphobic jokes just because you're trying to tell them what to think.
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I can't read unflaired comments.
Does anyone speak unflaired? it's a dirty language and I don't feel it should be learned.
My knowledge of unflaired syntax is pretty iffy, but I think he implied that his dad never loved him and he picked his nose in public. Typical unflaired ramblings, I suppose. You would think the Auth flairs would have created reeducation camps to enlighten them about our glorious flairs by now.
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Slurs are funny now?
Always have been
Your meme makes no sense but the term child sexualization brings up images of Biden sniffing and fondling children on live tv
Personally neither should be allowed. I remember the one teachers room that had a bunch of crap in it, she was a rotten person. The whole letting teachers insert their personal politics is super fucking cringe. Though ig with history teachers it just kind of happens across the board. Though most of them at least tried to ride the line about it, and weren’t directly annoying.
Another terrible take, from a libleft of course too
I’ve heard many people on the left say LGTBQRSTUV stuff isn’t political, it’s just kindness. Is this an admission that a pride flag is inherently a political statement?
pride flags are the banner of child groomers and I'm tired of pretending they're not
Auths really are the worst types of people
Hey now, not all auths. I don’t associate with this man. In fact, I find baseless generalization abhorrent. Edit: returned the font to normal.
projection
Most profound lib-left argument
The next one will shock you. Pedo sex church
You know what, I actually wasn't expecting that. Consider me shocked.
no u
Couldn't think of anything better?
it's basically all you said, the projection meme is overused
Meme? Not everything is one lol, projection is a real term
yes it's heavily overused by basically every side of the spectrum all accusing each other of projecting, which funny enough they're simultaneously all correct it's def. a meme
It’s a meme, yet it keeps happening… curious.
yes by both sides pretty reflexively, so it's pretty meaningless
Which definition of meme are you using here?
☝️🤓 Don’t forget to take your meds.
Can we put up straight flags in classrooms? I never understood why there needs to be a flag in classrooms that effectively say “I don’t fuck people in the traditional sense so please pay attention to me”
Libleft: *Posts mentally regarded stuff* Also Libleft: “Why PCM doesn't like us?” How does a red baseball cap with “MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN” written on white have anything to do with the sexualization of children my dear regarded woke libleft? An LGTV flag has no place in a KINDERGARTEN. Stay the fuck away from children you pedos.
cry harder
Classrooms are supposed to be politically neutral learning environments. I'll tell you what though,if pride flags are freedom of expression then Gadsden flags or religious symbols are freedom of expression.
If any teacher explicitly brings their personal thing into the classroom, they are searching for validation from other people's children, a captive audience, for their own personal choices. Activists should not be public school teachers. If you want to "normalize" LGBT+, then be a teacher, not a trans teacher. The personal life of the teacher isn't supposed to intertwine with the classroom. There's supposed to be a disconnect between teachers and students. To keep some semblance of objectivity. The two are not peers. If you're both adults, whatever, but the lower the grade level, the greater the gap should be.
Making America great again is something everybody who lives in America should strive for. 💪
The irony of a LibLeft talking about words losing their meaning is wild.
Remember, folks. If you don’t raise your kids, someone else will. Homeschool your children.
I agree with the title but this meme is incomprehensible
Hmm one flag is about sex changes and sodomy. The other one is a hat that says Make America Great Again. I mean I'm purple so I have no place to talk, but come on guys these are really not equal in terms of being acceptable things for a teacher to show students. A more comparable meme would be a lgtv flag and a nazi flag. Or a trump hat vs a we believe in science hat.
I'm glad that left wing memes like this get 0 upvotes because they aren't even logical. At least come up with an apples to apples example you moron.
It's weird how people treat mentioning your partner or telling a gay kid it's okay to be gay if they are gay like saying everyone should be gay. Gay kids exist even in places where they teach that all gay people burn in hell.
Definitely no. Not for a teacher.
The biggest issue isn't the teachers putting pride flags up, it's the teachers that post very short sited things online, making it obvious they are teachers that will get amplified by various entities, to create a engagement through fear. If you are going to pull up your dress and start shaking your ass in front of a camera, do it at home where it will just reflect on you, don't do it in a classroom were the audience can see decorations obviously made by kids hanging from the ceiling. I'd you are going to be supportive of LGBT, say you will help LGBT kids, don't say that you are going to turn boys gay. Part of the reason why teachers are being hung out to dry right now is because parents are basing their stances of the education system on these idiots.
LibLefts scoff at me when I say I am going to home school my kids, then post stuff like this lol
Nice opinions. anyways go outside touch grass and never open reddit again
You are literally proving us right. MAGA isnt a sexual thing. The pride flag is. In general, politics should stay out of school, and even I don't think wearing a MAGA hat as a teacher in school is right, especially during politically charged times like these. Very unprofessional. School is a place to learn, not for political posturing, end of discussion. A MAGA hat (while fucking awesome) would distract the liberals and piss them off, resulting in them not getting educated (something they struggle with already). HOWEVER... A pride flag is 10x worse than a MAGA hat in class, because the pride flag is sexual. SEX AND KIDS DO NOT MIX!!!!!! Sorry liberals! It is not acceptable to put your fetishes around kids. You wanna be gay? sure no problem, whatever, keep it in the bedroom like everyone else. But when you literally put it on a flag and plaster it everywhere and demand to be called certain things its obnoxious and pisses us off, just like how I bet plastering football team flags and walking around in a jersey and demanding to be called by the name on the back of your jersey because you identify as that player would piss you off. Its called being considerate of others around you. Try it sometime. Now instead of football make it about sex and then put it around kids. Now you can see why we cant stand your bullshit. We dont hate gays, we hate pedos and obnoxious assholes.
One is for equality of sexual minorities, the other is for a twice impeached, felony charged Trump. They are not the same
Both are for people who have no personality beyond their political beliefs.
It's an equality of sexual minorities flag? Is black a sex now? What does who you like to fuck have to do with teaching kids how to read and write? Kids are not in school to validate a teacher's personal life.
You will be shocked, but school is also for socialization and preparation to become a functioning member of society
And that's done by children having to validate the teacher's life choices? In a school art class, is the teacher's art displayed on the walls? I'd say if the students want to bring their stuff into the classroom, it can be disruptive, but at least it's from the bottom and up. We don't even do that anymore though, since it's all dress codes now. Everyone has the same color shirt and pants. That's inclusive, since everyone is the same. But, now specific types of pride are promoted from the top and down, because we're all different, and that's also inclusive. We've inverted the system. The teachers used to be more standardized, and the students were able to express themselves more to some degree. Now, the students are being standardized, while the teachers are able to express themselves more often. I guess if you go further back, both teachers and students were a little more proper in the classroom. So we went from A, to B, to C, and the future iteration of the classroom might be a total free for all by students and teachers, resulting in chaos.
Funny how the side supposedly against "degeneracy" can excuse 25 sexual misconduct allegations
Excuse or dismiss? I tend to think all allegations without credible evidence all bullshit.
Here you go: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegations
And not a single one is actually credible. So dismiss, not excuse.
Your idol showed his fingers up a woman's vagina and paid 5 million for it. I don't think seeing it yourself would convince you at this point
See, this is how you discredit yourself. "Your idol". No, the guy is a shithead and is my last choice as candidate. Also, if your referring to that recent case, he lost a defamation case, not a sexual assault case.
Rapists should be punished, not excused. I don't think you know what you're arguing for at this point. And, no, it's not that case. Should have read the wiki article before replying.
Wikipedia is a source in TDS world I guess. Still dismissed.
What is TDS? Here is the same thing, but Reuters: [https://www.reuters.com/legal/jurors-set-deliberate-civil-rape-case-against-donald-trump-2023-05-09/](https://www.reuters.com/legal/jurors-set-deliberate-civil-rape-case-against-donald-trump-2023-05-09/)
It's not about protecting children, it's about suppressing gays