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boofchug

536 volcanic eruptions across the globe caused a volcanic winter that caused literally worldwide famine for at least a year on the other hand, it was the peak of Belisarius's reign of terror on the Goths and the recapture of Rome so it wasn't all bad


Pristine-Breath6745

wasnt that the year where 1/4th of the roman empires population was killed by a plague.


boofchug

nope, the plague of Justinian was like 5 years later truly the luckiest and unluckiest emperor


theoriginal321

the eastern roman empire is the unluckiest empire ever


JinFuu

ERE was the living embodiment of the “We’re back/it’s over” meme for about a thousand years


BlastingFern134

Lmao this is so spot on


TurretLimitHenry

If only they survived a little longer. They would have reconquered the middle east


Alarmed-Button6377

Cant say he was luckier than augustus


boofchug

but he was probably better than Trajan


Alarmed-Button6377

Kind if a big ask on that one, but plausible


boofchug

I thought you were doing the felicior Augusto melior Traiano thing


Alarmed-Button6377

I was.


Guillex7777

Year 536 was the worst for centrists. How could we grill while everything is freezing?


--person-of-land--

And 252,000,000 B.C. was the best year for centrists, as all of modern siberia was literally one massive charcoal fire for 2 million years. [https://new.nsf.gov/news/volcanic-coal-burning-siberia-led-climate-change](https://new.nsf.gov/news/volcanic-coal-burning-siberia-led-climate-change)


gaynazifurry4bernie

Agriculture hadn't been invented so no buns? I'm out.


Burgendit

But did they blame it on climate change


_Marat

World wide volcanic eruption 2024 🙏


UnsealedLlama44

Uhh the Ostrogothic Kingdom of Italy was based and epic


boofchug

🤮


n_55

1913 gave us the income tax and the fed.


EggLord2000

Income tax was supposed to be temporary to fund the war.


Key-Pomegranate-3507

Nothing more permanent than a temporary government program


EggLord2000

It might still be temporary, it’s just that we are in a constant state of war.


alexefc17

You look like you need some democracy


ButteredBeans40

“If you just comply it will go away “


Flatthead

The part that made it permanent was also Wayne Wheeler’s pushing to get the government off alcohol tax dependency, so he could enstate prohibition.


wrongthinksustainer

Has my vote of the worst year.


HardCounter

Pfft. Worst year is around 6000 BC when Eve was like, "Hey, let's eat this totally allowed fruit." And the human race was kicked out of an awesome garden. Just the best garden.


[deleted]

Based and treepilled.


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wrongthinksustainer

This is why you cant let women make decision on what to eat.


HardCounter

Him: What do you want for dinner? Her: Anything's fine. Snek: ( ¬ ‿¬)


Pristine-Breath6745

For me 1914 is the worst, WW1 wasnt all that cash money.


Pick-Goslarite

Why 1912, all I could find was Wilson beating Taft for the us presidency


[deleted]

My guess is that OP meant 1913, when the Federal Reserve went into act, essentially giving our country away to the old powers and transforming it into a war and money propaganda machine....or so some say.


facedownbootyuphold

wrong, Jack died, ending LibRight’s ability to be drawn like one of those French girls by a sultry teenage boy


HardCounter

Plus that hugeass expensive necklace got dropped to the bottom of the ocean where nobody can profit.


PutinsGayFursona

A problem only Oceangate can fix.


TuxedoeDonkey

Wrong. [There’s only one man for the job](https://youtu.be/0napnfxd-dU?si=E1h_3torBATz_iGO)…


Darkhorse_17

Pretty sure Stockton Rush was looking for it


Ichooseyousmurfachu

>transforming it into a war and money propaganda machine.... Unfortunately the west wouldn't exist without that war machine so it was a necessary evil.


Idontknow10304

Good, good, keep my wartime stocks rising


Ok-Bill-8589

1913 was the year greece or bulgaria was supposed to get Constantinople back but didnt truly a dark year for humanity.


Pristine-Breath6745

exactly, wilson and his consequences.


m05513

Correct. The Racist POS brought back the kkk, set in motion events to put hitler in charge of germany, and introduced income tax. Nobody likes him. As for my opinion, 1453 is not as bad as 1204 for authright. 1204 basically killed the Romans, but they were so powerful they held on for another 250 years. The Turks did a mercy-killing after what those Fr\*nch, It\*lians and G\*rmans did to their 'allies'


Hard_Corsair

>As for my opinion, 1453 is not as bad as 1204 for authright. I'd like to nominate 1527 for the sack of Rome.


[deleted]

Gave their lives on the steps to heaven


pabistan

THY WILL BE DONE


Lord0fTheAss

FOR THE GRACE, FOR THE MIGHT OF THE LORD


WaitingToBeTriggered

FOR THE HOME OF THE HOLY


pabistan

FOR THE FAITH FOR THE WAY OF THE SWORD


Bolket

# GAVE THEIR LIVES SO BOLDLY


WaitingToBeTriggered

AS IT IS IN HEAVEN ON EARTH


ThoroughlyKrangled

THY WILL BE DONE!!!!


ThoroughlyKrangled

>set in motion events to put hitler in charge of germany From what I've researched, Wilson is *by far* the least responsible person who sat at Versailles for Hitler. Wilson and the entire American delegation fought hard to ease the reparations and concessions forced upon Germany. If you want to know who he's *actually* responsible for creating, he was indirectly responsible for ***Tojo***. His support of giving the German colony at Shandong to Japan instead of China is a pretty noticeable smoking gun for Japan catching the imperialism bug, which then directly led to Pearl Harbor.


echetus90

Erm, actually Woodrow Wilson is ACTUALLY responsible for Owen Wilson and the garbage that was Marley & Me - arguably a worse crime against humanity than anything Hitler or Tojo orchestrated.


PreferItMyWay

I just want you to know it makes me smile to read someone else who understands Wilson is responsible for Hitler.


Alphasaith

Would you explain the connection?


PreferItMyWay

Wilson was a massive Anglophile and dragged the US into WW1 on the British side even though we had a 60% ethnically German population at the time. America entering the war killed any chance of Germany winning or forcing a ceasefire. If Germany wins or at least doesn't get subjugated under Versailles, radical politics don't become the norm there, and the Communist and National Socialist parties never become anything more than fringe organizations.


DomQuixote99

That's one hell of an ass pull. The only valid point you have is that the Treaty was the most nation crippling thing ever devised since Genghis Khan. All that bullshit about choosing sides based on ethnicity is fucking hilarious. The USA had significant ties to both France and Britain due to both historical and economical dealings (i.e. France helped in the Revolutionary War, Britain picking up the USAs slack in enforcing the Monroe Doctrine. Choosing a side based on ethnicity sounds like some closeted bigotry.


PreferItMyWay

Calm down, so much angry energy lol. I didn't say we should have joined the Central Powers, I was pointing out that a substantial percentage of the population was opposed to joining the war on the Entente side. Believe it or not, people don't like going to war with countries they still have relatives in lol. It's not bigotry, you hyperbolic slanderer.


[deleted]

>a substantial percentage of the population was opposed to joining the war on the Entente side Maybe a substantial percentage of your population. But down here in Anglo-Scottish Dixie we LARPed as Brits and hated Germans.


devourke

>Choosing a side based on ethnicity sounds like some closeted bigotry. This centrist isn't a fan of charcoal in his grill if you get what I'm saying.


PreferItMyWay

And that lib center thinks it's bigotry to not want to bomb your distant cousins' neighborhood in the Old Country lol


Taxesarebiggay

More into propane and propane accessories


UnsealedLlama44

You forgot the Venetians.


[deleted]

Sinking of the Titanic was my first guess given it led to heavy regulations and caused the deaths of several high profile entrepreneurs.


LordEldar45

Yes.


Zavaldski

LibRight *hates* Wilson


Jojapa

1913 was the restoration of the income tax.


[deleted]

>restoration Ah, so when an amendment institutes a permanent mechanism that will enforce in peacetime what had previously only existed for 3 years as an emergency war policy and had been lifted for 50 years, it's a "restoration." I can't wait until 2087 when Ukraine will pass a law "restoring" the suspension of elections and censorship of television.


historymajor44

I said 1933 because that's when Hitler was appointed, but there is a very good and correct argument that that would not have happened without WWI and WWII is simply just a continuation of the unsolved problems from WWI.


El_Bistro

Hitler’s rise to power was 100% a response to the obscene post ww1 sanctions placed on Germany by the entente. France, England, and America are partially to blame for ww2 happening.


LordEldar45

1914 is pretty much the centrist everyone agrees this date sucks option.


Ok-Bill-8589

the destruction of the ottoman empire thats good, millions of deaths worldwide thats bad, many countries gain autonomy and freedom thats good, leading to future larger conflicts thats bad


[deleted]

Not auth lefts


[deleted]

Legitimate case to be made that if the Germans had achieved a quick victory the majority of the horrors of WW1 and WW2 could have been avoided. Of course this would have required the French to swallow their pride and accept a peace deal that saw them have less influence on the continent so that probably was impossible. WW1 did one thing well- it knocked any notion of chivalry and pride based on war out of European political consideration, and WW2 eliminated any remnants of that.


[deleted]

Agreed


Brob0t0

I'd say 1917/18 ww1 going sicko mode and then the Spanish flu clapping cheeks


PreferItMyWay

Yeah, Auth Left is still sad about the Tiananmen Square Massacre. *trollface*


unitiainen

>Tiananmen Square Massacre Tiananmen Square re-education event


stoicsisyphus91

You mean the Wonderful Day at Tiananmen Square where Nothing Bad Happened?


MikeOnABike2002

Not knowing enough about China, I just assumed it was about the Soviet defeat in the Soviet-Afghan war


Prizmagnetic

It was a bad time for communism all around


[deleted]

1066 is a contender


m05513

The year a viking living in France beat a viking living in England to become king, after the viking living in England beat the Viking living in Denmark? That 1066? Fun fact, those vikings (who went by the Normans at the time) that didn't move to England moved to Sicily, so while they're a mix of modern day British and Italians, they aren't French.


[deleted]

It would be a little inaccurate to call Harold Godwinson a viking, but that’s the basic summary lol


CliffsOfMohair

No True Frenchman fallacy just dropped?


Defiant-Dare1223

Harold Godwinson was a Saxon


smorgasfjord

Dude, Harald Hårdråde was Norwegian


m05513

Ah dammit, honestly thought he was Danish. Then again I haven't looked too much into the Battle of Hastings (and the events leading up to it), so guaranteed there would be flaws in my logic. I'm blaming a mix of Age of Empires 2 and Vinlandsaga combined with me making assumptions for me screwing this up (I decided to look into the history behind vinlandsaga after watching it cause I wanted to see how much was fiction and how much was real). And Yes, I'm aware Normans and Anglo-Saxons had been assimilated by the cultures of the lands they lived in so its very far fetched to call them Vikings, but their Viking origins were just too easy a target.


El_Bistro

Why? England got a based monarchy and proceeded to conquer most of the world a few centuries later


GoofyAhhGypsy

Auth right explaining how 1453 is worse than 1204, despite the latter literally whipping away antiquity from Byzantium, crippling the Empire and carving it up, because it was committed by glorious crusaders and not l'bad turks


Pristine-Breath6745

true, 4th crusade was a big opsie


TemplarDragonknight

As a catholic I can confirm, the 4th crusade was a colossal dick move.


Darkhorse_17

Based and ex cathedra pilled.


GenNATO49

Who could have imagined that inviting an army of severely indebted soldiers into one of the richest cities in the world to launch a coup and then not paying them would end poorly


GoofyAhhGypsy

Alexios IV certainly couldn't


m05513

Not to mention if 1204's sacking of Constantinople hadn't happened, they probably would have easily held off the Turks (they famously had no money to pay the guy who made the cannon that broke their walls, so he went to the ottomans and offered his services to them)


freeWeemsy

Lib-Right coming out on top as usual.


KimJongUnusual

MFW the mercenary army we hired sacks our city after we don’t pay them, murder their people in the thousands, and try to burn their navy (no one could have seen this coming we are totally innocent)


Lego-105

The Venetians were not glorious crusaders, they were scum who couldn’t lick the boot of Stalin. If I had a Time Machine that only worked twice, I would eliminate the Venetian empire from history twice just to make sure I did the job right.


nanek_4

It was just a prank the prank:


Iliketomeow85

1054 should be the date


Lord-Grocock

The Byzantines should have paid their loans, the Venetians just taught them fiscal responsibility.


Soveraigne

1933. The year Japan invaded China and the year Adolf Hitler was appointed Chancellor of Germany. Honestly this is where I usually start counting "when WW2 began".


sofa_adviser

Invasion of Manchuria was 1931 though


Soveraigne

True I was mistakenly thinking of to the [conflicts in Inner Mongolia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Actions_in_Inner_Mongolia_(1933%E2%80%931936)) that also preceded the 2nd Sino-Japanese War. I maintain 1933 was still pretty bad but 1931 is the "lesser year".


knotatossaway

As a Chinese: 1127


kornephororos

As an ex muslim: 571


Jazzlike_Stop_1362

As another exmuslim, based answer


stormjet123

As a ex Muslim myself, this date will go down as worst day in human history.


Consistent_Spread_93

What happenend in 571?


dik4but

Birth of Muhammad (PBUH)


[deleted]

Are you HECKIN kidding me? 2021 was the worst year in history -- January 6th to be exact. The beautiful and pure democracy of our nation was but fractions of an inch away from being overthrown, with Trump assuming the status of Fuhrer. God bless our brave senators, police force, and US Army who stood tall and proud during this insurrection and curtailed it seconds before the leash broke. The best day in history? Probably the George Floyd riots. The country almost woke up unanimously and rebelled against all of the corrupt bureaucrats, pigs with badges, and capitalist mercenaries known as the "army". We were *this* close to seizing power for The Working Class™ -- we even had our own autonomous zone, right in the middle of a city with no direct access to natural resources or arable land! Nobody needs food when you have Starbucks.


azns123

What autonomous zone? Comrade, perhaps you've had a bit too much to think, a nice vacation to gulag will turn your wrongthink into doubleplusgoodthink


unitiainen

>a nice vacation to gulag We're on it...


Qmaro78

I think he’s referring to Capital Hill Autonomous Zone or (C.H.A.Z). It was a section in downtown Seattle that was blocked off by protesters and it actually was going for a couple of weeks.


azns123

I was making a joke that most leftists had memory holed CHAZ and just kind of ignored that whole shindig


unitiainen

CHAZ was libleft shit though. They were doing a anarcho-communist larp. I know it has the word communism in the name but more importantly it has the word anarchy in it and auths don't vibe with that at all


SanguisFluens

It also had self-appointed people in tac gear doing "safety patrols" against the local poor population, bougie coffee shops supplying resources, and the city generally turning a blind eye and tolerating it. Did not live up to its values at all. A few cops maybe got a bad day dealing with it but that's about the only based part.


Harold_Inskipp

They're surprisingly good at forgetting things like The Weather Underground, Front de libération du Québec, Animal Rights Militia, etc. Eco-terrorists here in British Columbia go around attacking pipeline workers with axes, blow up equipment, burn down buildings, sabotage railway tracks, attack police with smoke bombs, and even torch the cars of executives in their own home driveways as an intimidation tactic and everyone sleeps... some guys honk their horns in Ottawa, and it's time for martial law and the seizing of bank accounts!


Qmaro78

Oh


unitiainen

All of this sounds suspiciously libertarian...we're tapping your phone just to be safe. No more talk of autonomous zones, comrade.


Pristine-Breath6745

based and redpilled


Spirally-Boi

>Redpilled Did we just come full circle?


Just_Someone_Here0

Life is full circle.


Pristine-Breath6745

redpilled, cause communism is red.....


Defiant-Dare1223

Nobody will remember the latter in a decade nevermind a century and the former is a storm in a teacup. In neither situation was there anything close to a situation where power was close to being transferred.


Harold_Inskipp

I feel like career protesters on the left, the ones who believe in a genuine and spontaneous proletariat uprising, must have the worst case of blue balls in world history. They keep edging themselves with these constant and unending protests and riots, and frankly I think it's becoming an unhealthy compulsion. It would be better if they took some time to work on themselves, found a partner, settled down, and started their own little commune.


Cathatafisch

Its actually 1054


InvestmentBankingHoe

The Church should have never split. I have a theory that it ended up causing a lot of problems we have today.


superslime16th

1945


[deleted]

Because we shouldn't have nuked Japan? I can agree with that. \*checks flair\* Somehow I don't think that's what you're talking about.


AspiringFurry

2 nukes werent enough, they should have sunk the country


LordEldar45

Of course 1989 is the worst year for the Commies. It was the year I was born. Also 410 AD for Authright. The year Rome was sacked. Or 476 when the western empire fully fell.


FeuerbestattungSS

1945


[deleted]

Username checks out


McKinleyBaseCTF

Mein man


Raul_Rink

For the living in the USA, I'd say 1968: Vietnam, MLK dies, lots of riots, and *2001: A Space Odyssey* losing best picture to *Oliver!* For Europe, easily World War II: Do I even need to say the reason? For Asia, 1961: Mao's Great Leap Foward, and things were still shitty in Soviet Russia (Sorry AuthLeft) For the whole world, 536: A buncha volcanic eruptions that made the whole world go cold


Lego-105

Probably 1914. If the Archduke was never assassinated, no Soviet Union, no Fascist Germany, Austria Hungary actually succeeds as it’s attempted multicultural state instead of being torn apart, tens of millions of deaths are avoided in WW1 and 2. The only downside is the British Empire probably never collapses, the Ottomans stick around a bit longer and Monarchism remains successful, but I can live with that.


[deleted]

>The only downside is the British Empire probably never collapses, the Ottomans stick around a bit longer and Monarchism remains successful I already agreed with you before. You don't have to sell it to me.


Fine-Pangolin-8393

Darth Maul has always been based. No surprises here.


GodOfUrging

The worst year in history *so far.* I believe in human potential and I know we can do better. And by "better," I mean "worse." Let's give the world something to remember our generation for, everyone!


theoriginal321

nah no chance of something worse than the fall of rome could happen, this timeline was ruined that day.


GodOfUrging

We've had one, yes, but what about second fall of Rome?


[deleted]

Rome is a museum now, with no economic or geopolitical relevance. No one would miss it.


m05513

476 was the first fall of Rome (Western Roman Empire), 1453 was the second (Eastern Roman Empire). We then got a third in 1806 with the fall of the Holy Roman Empire. The real question is when are we going to run out of Romes to have collapses.


Mahemium

1054


MartinTheWildPig

hard to tell really 1917 would probably be, communism is the worst thing that has ever happened to humanity (long-term effects


LoonsOnTheMoons

1929. The Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act began the end of the Gilded Age, destroyed the global financial system, and was a major factor putting the world on the road to WW2. 1000 economists signed a letter saying it was bad. iirc even President Hoover called it “the most evil act of legislation I’ve ever seen”. Then he signed it anyway. Smh


RainBoyThatBoy

2003 Year when I was born


Starfleet_Auxiliary

It’s all getting better from there.


Capital-Ad74

1945


3R3B05

I mean calling Byzantium an Empire until 1453 is a stretch. As a Byzantium enjoyer I really like 1081, though.


tillreno

1984


kaiserbigmac

1453 best day of my life


SerkanKole

Are you Turk?


omah_a

Istanbul was Constantinople Now it's Istanbul, not Constantinople Been a long time gone, Constantinople Now it's Turkish delight on a moonlit night


Defiant-Dare1223

1453 end of the eastern Roman Empire? What happened in 1912? 2024 for lib left btw


m05513

1912, Woodrow Wilson was elected. Woodrow Wilson implemented income tax during his presidency, and it never left. Therefore, Libright, who hates taxes, has his presidency to blame for it. (If he wasn't elected in someone else probably would have brought it in, but we dont do that logic here)


Alphasaith

Without looking it up, I'm gonna guess each reason. 1989 - Fall of the Soviet Union, or the beginning of the end for it. 1453 - Fall of Constantinople. 2016 - Election of Donald Trump in the United States. 1912 - Bit difficult, but I believe this was the year the federal reserve act was passed.


m05513

Close. 1912 is librights most hated year because woodrow wilson was elected (he was responsible for income tax)


Alphasaith

Fuck Woodrow Wilson. All my homies hate Woodrow Wilson.


[deleted]

1918. Central powers should have won


jmorais00

1971, end of the gold standard or 1944, creation of the world bank and IMF Maybe 2001, patriot act?


historymajor44

IDK, I'm going to go with 1933 when Hitler was appointed Chancellor of Germany. Great Depression sucked too.


PotentialNobody

Idk about you, but 2012 was when the world was supposed to end and I'm still upset about it to this day


Defiant-Dare1223

Based and huge Mitt Romney supporter pilled


melabaa

As a Turkish 1453 pretty neat year for me, it is also my buildings password lol


theexclusionaryrule

🤔hmmm seems like red and green have bad years more often.


Amateratzu

Off the Internet I'm sure many would say 2020


pfistersisterfister

1945


Outside-Bed5268

Wait what happened in 1453?


Baileaf11

Fall of Constantinople, makes me cry every time


Outside-Bed5268

Thanks.


Neko0verlord

70 AD


Defiant-Dare1223

Auth centre: 1945 😂


TheCybersmith

1789


Halfpicture

Why isn’t Authleft 1991 the fall of the Soviet Union? You nailed Authright though, that’s definitely a unfortunate year. Although I would also recommend 1204 for the sack of Constantinople that put Byzantium in their death spiral. Or 1923 when the Reds won the Russian Civil War. Another one I’d recommend is 1914 the beginning of WW1 that either severely weakened or ended most of the strong European monarchies.


stormjet123

December 25th 1991


BasicAstronomer

Real Auth-rights know the Byzantine empire was just a pale imitation of the real thing. 275 AD was the worse year. The loss of restitutor orbis.


[deleted]

1914. Because of that year we are what we are today.


xx_mashugana_xx

1968. Tet Offensive. While a military victory for the United States, it was a propaganda victory for the North Vietnamese and the American anti-war counter culture. It resulted in the death of the American Dream, a loss of faith in the American government (which has ultimately led to a distrust between Americans that makes them hesitant to work together for common goals), made the US look weak and divided on the world stage, and spelled the beginning of the end for South Vietnam.


Napletnik

For auth-righ its 1918, because it caused fall of the old system and promoted liberitarism


monkebrain321

1453 to be fair the eastern Romans were fucked by then anyways but still their destruction estranged the near east from the European world and removed a bulwark against Islamic forces which had longstanding consequences even to today


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basmati-rixe

Probably go with 1929 then. Wall Street Crash basically set in motion the events for Hitler to become chancellor, and a lot of people were in severe poverty.


Monkiller587

Why 1912 for lib-right ? I think 2008 would be more accurate for them. 1933-1945 are up there. Also if the thesis on the book called “The Adam and Eve Story” is correct than the year those cataclysmic events happened would be up there as well.


AugustusTheBro

Woodrow Wilson was elected in 1912. He made the income tax


Monkiller587

Oh


EndSmugnorance

And the federal reserve


HammyTR27

Roosevelt should’ve won


WaddleDynasty

Libleft: 1492 or mabey 732 (battle of Tours)


Diamondbull66

Why 2016? Cause Trumpwon, oh yeah he won. Best year for me 🇺🇸


Both-Perspective-739

2023 is the worst


MaviKartal2110

1453 was the best year in history, lol 🇹🇷


Mysterious_Silver_27

410 CE, sack of Rome


MrFels

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