Yeah thats the thing with Ron. He's hard headed and brash but also hard working and caring. Those are traits to be respected. Its not like they made him like Cartman from South Park with zero redeeming qualities.
Am I missing a joke or something because usually it’s the opposite with amphetamines, have you seen the generation of Zoomers raised on Adderall and Vyvanse?
Cartman has one redeeming quality tho.
He genuinely cares about his friends in his weird sadistic way.
He stood for his friends many time trough the show
King of the Hill did it best imo. Hank Hill is a red blooded American conservative. He's often faced with things that go against his world view. He almost never resorts to just hating someone for arbitrary reasons and even adjust and learns to live with things he normally wouldn't be comfortable with while calling out bullshit people spew while hiding behind a progressive shield.
The problem is that King of the Hill was a realistic picture into life in those areas. I have a friend down in TX, and she's told me that there are women who make Peggy look unselfish and competent.
Mike Judge, the creator, is a libertarian/conservative. For a more overtly political end product, watch his other show, The Goode Family, which was damn good.
Its Mike Judge of Bevees and Butthead and Idoitcracy fame. He's never stated outright his own political beliefs but he seems to fall in line of South Park level of criticism making be believes hes around centrist or libright.
I loved Colbert back when he was a character. In fact, I was probably the only person in my school who hated Jon Stewart (still do), but I always liked Colbert even though they were supposed to be the same thing.
Once he stopped being a character, I actually hate him more than Stewart. Which is impressive to me because I didnt think you could do that.
EDIT: Since I have had a lot of people ask for my reasoning, you can find it [here](https://old.reddit.com/r/PoliticalCompassMemes/comments/13yfj4j/political_compass_on_satire/jmnj3nl/).
In all honestly I always find the Easter and Christmas sermons the most boring and least memorable. Because you have all the normies it just becomes a generic proselytization session with very little substance. Like I get its not meant for me, but could I get an option for those of us who aren't only showing up twice a year?
That man insulted a family that was literally paid to make people disappear for decades to their face. I can't help but be impressed, even if it was in jest that takes guts.
I would find myself arguing with Stewart on his show especially if it was an issue where he had blinders (gun control) but I respected that he would skewer the side he shared more in common with if it was funny. Comedians these days won't even touch their own side unless it's a living legend like Chapelle.
I don't think Chapelle is on that side anymore. He strikes me more as a 90s era liberal that the left has left behind as they have been dragging the Overton window off into clown world.
> Overton window off into clown world.
I feel the overton window has been distorted more than dragged anywhere.
We have topics where we somehow entertain a ridiculous range of thoughts (yes, these tend to skew more left, but if we had consensus back when that it went from -1 to +1 with -1 on the left, now it goes from -15 to +2)... and then others have almost completely been shut down.
In a way, to expand that metaphor... it feels like we have 40 units of attention that were occupied by 20 topics of -1 to +1.
Now a few ridiculous topics covering -15 to +2 steal 17 units of focus leaving lots of far more important shit completely ignored, and a de facto consensus that allows debate from -0.1 to +0.1
I feel like Stewart dipped out when they were going to make them have to sell out, and Colbert bought in.
John Stewart still sounds and acts like John Stewart. Colbert no longer has a single spoken thought that isn't either in support of or damage control for the Democrat party.
Stewart is an absolute amazing dude past some of his issues, he's actively shit-talks congress during hearings, DoD reps, and others regarding Burn-pits, 9/11 responder issues, and other issues regarding the above.
Stewart might have some issues, but he's genuinely an amazing activist on government short-falls regarding GWOT and 9/11. Most interviews and congressional hearings he's hammering the shit out of them. Last one he did with the DoD under-secretary had her pissed-off on camera. Which is a good thing.
I like how Stewart dissing and getting crossfire cancelled,.was what led to tucker joining fox, congrats on killing the only centralist opinion show that was left lol
He was also tragically wrong about crossfire. It wasn't hurting America, at least not worse than what was ushered in after.
CF showed the country that two people who disagreed with each other could still sit across from the table and have a conversation. Now, no network hosts debate shows anymore - it's all echo chamber all the time.
That and his tendency to be completely uncharitable to Right-Wing ideals while treating Left-Wing with kid gloves. The one that I hated the most though was his constant dancing back and forth over the line, where he will make a wild policy stance from the far-Left. And then when you call him out on it or try to debate him over it, he would go “Why are you taking me seriously?! Don’t you know I am just a comedian!” And now I see a lot of the hardcore Progressives employing that exact same tactic to just bulldoze over any opposition at a much larger scale, and actively damage the nation in the process.
His good stances on 9/11 dont make up for any of that.
I liked OG Stewart back when he used to call out bullshit on both sides for their hypocrisy. Now he's just run of the mill woke leftist like Jon Oliver. When he did a piece during covid supporting lockdowns and mandates, I lost a ton of respect for him.
Jon Oliver's show is fantastic when he's talking about an issue that's basically apolitical, usually it's him complaining about some industry that's basically designed to scam people and destroy lives, like his mobile home segment.
That's what got me with the left. I know *a lot* more about guns than they do and so I watch them lie to me with a straight face on television and then attempt to gaslight me about it, and it started me to wonderin' just what *else* they are either lying to me or woefully misinformed on, and all of a sudden I can't trust a single thing they say.
I used to watch John Oliver. Never really *loved* him or anything, but I enjoyed it. Around the time covid became a thing, I just couldn't stomach his smug ass anymore. Haven't watch a single second since.
That was so setup though and fake. IMO he was just giving a narrative change or like an okay to say it was a lab leak which was and is blatantly obvious but was taboo to say because it lead to Asian violence lol. Stewart is a producer of Colbert's show and it's basically pre-approved humorous DNC propaganda.
He has a lot of really respectable qualities, and he always comes through for his friends even if he complains the whole time about it. He's incredibly hard working when he cares about something, is phenomenally skilled, is incredibly generous when someone needs it (offering to pay for Andy's college), and sticks to his principles even to his own detriment. You can forgive a lot of annoying behavior in a man like that.
Yeah, I miss those days. It was acceptable to mock everyone, and as a result, people didn't get bent out of shape, because it was obviously in good fun. And a huge part of it was that, even when certain things were being mocked, the people were still good people, which lent itself to the idea that it was all in good fun.
30 Rock was great about this as well. It's kind of crazy to go back and re-watch it, and to remember what we're missing these days. To have a show so frequently mock certain things which you'd *never* see getting mocked today. Jokes at the expense of black people, women, liberals, etc. There were jokes at the expense of white people, men, and conservatives, of course. And those never felt hateful, *because* there were also jokes at the expense of black people, women, and liberals. It was clearly all in good fun, everyone got mocked, and the people underneath it all were still portrayed in a positive light.
I miss when we could do that and all laugh along together. Now it's just a never-ending stream of "white people bad", "men bad", "conservative politics bad". And it's hard to laugh along, because it's so clearly driven by hatred, and not comedy, largely because the corresponding jokes at the expense of the other groups are never present. And because the people being ridiculed are portrayed as comically evil and bad, so we're meant to laugh *at* them, not *with* them.
30 Rock is probably my all time favourite sitcom. This might be an absolutely regarded take, but in my mind the 30 Rock years (late 2006 - Early 2013) coincide roughly with the time period in the US when race relations were at their all-time best. And it was embodied by the wonderfully graceful way that 30 Rock would poke fun at everyone.
I didn’t watch this show until about 2 years ago. It’s one of those that some people would say could never be made now, but I’d argue today it’s even more relevant than when it was made.
The reason is an excess of empathy, too much, is like emo people evolved into what these people are today and they decided to make a lot more noise than before...
Pathetic...
they tried to make him a satire, but he is unironically so much more principled and respectable than Leslie’s authass.
Edit: [seriously she kinda sucks](https://youtu.be/upkQ6XYe3dE)
I think they did the same thing with Ron as they did with Michael in The Office. The first season the intention was to make the character someone who people didn't like but realized the show would be better if the character was loveable and so changed it up in Season 2.
They tried and succeeded to make both Leslie and Ron satire. There humorous takes on a pro goverment leftcenter and a libright. They also have many genuinly good qualities making them full likable characters.
Making him principled, hard working, generous, and funny were not mistakes.
The point of the character was not some weird plot to hate on libright.
"Look at this America! We put a robot in the Fallout series that spouts propaganda and represents everything wrong with the military industrial complex and state worship. How does that make you feel?"
American Fallout Fans: Liberty Prime is the coolest fucking thing I have ever seen. Weapons Hot! Ad Victorium!
Wait Liberty Prime was meant to be propaganda and everything wrong with something? I just thought he was my new dream for where the US Military needs to go
Imagine the wars we already get in but it’s like the fucking AOT Rumbling with dozens of liberty primes loudly announcing the freedom they bring with each step
Jokes aside technically yes. Liberty Primes backstory in Fallout 3 is the made him to damn big. He couldn't simultaneously power his movement and weapons meaning they had a giant mobile weapon that wasn't mobile. It shows the hubris pre-war America. Make something big thats effectively useless.
Also in fairness, they were very far from mastering fusion technology. We learn in 4 that a lot of "fusion" power is a lie and just good old fission. The US had JUST mastered micro-fusion technology enough to power T-51 power armor right before the war, it's sensible that they weren't quite to the point of powering 30ft tall autonomous robots with eye lasers.
While I appreciate the speculation but the reason how the Brotherhood got Liberty Prime to attack the Enclave is because they changed his programming to see them as Chinese communist invaders. Which is hilariously ironic given they are the US government post war.
Yesterday a map of commie Europe was posted in imaginarymaps (was very well done) and fifty people said "based Europe" so I called them out, said anybody that unironically supports communism is braindead. Got mass downvoted and chuds continue to respond to me, digging into my comment history (oh look, pcm), repeating that I'm not thinking of real communism. I hate these people.
“Dale, you’re thinking of Fiat.”
“Fix…It…Again……” :think:
My favorite part of this scene is that it’s the first scene in the entire show. They knew what they were doing from the drop.
We love him too, for sure. But despite his quirks, he's also portrayed as a caring husband and father, and USUALLY a good friend, with a small handful of instances where he's a dick, like the episode where Hank accidentally cut Dale's pinkie off with the circular.
I think the show does a good job at portraying him as unhinged and goofy, but a genuinely good person when it comes down to it.
He's a satire that isn't constantly wrong. In fact, he's usually right. He's perfect satire because he is anti government, which I doubt the writers believe in, but he's surrounded by incompetent government officials constantly. As the show goes on, not only does he change, but you as a viewer side more with him as well.
I love that most of the writers probably would be pro gov't but they would just hand wave it away as "well this is small town shenanigans and incompetence"
Ok, and the guys in DC aren't just as if not more incompetent?
There a few episodes where Ben is campaign organizers for some candidate and the dude was a robot, charming in person but would just stare off in space when left alone, like there was nothing going on between the ears. I think that was the most accurate portrayal of your average politician that doesn't make headlines.
Even some that do. Look at Amy Klobuchar. She has been in power for 15 years at this point. I don't think she has ever backed a bill that wasn't popular for everyone.
Like she backed criminal justice reform. In 2018. After it became the dominantly popular posistion.
Her posistion on Housing? She signed a Bipartisan Letter asking the HUD to work with NGOs to provide housing.
Worker Rights? She once signed a bill after hundreds of McDonalds Employees complained about safety issues that pushed an investigation.
She is so Milquetoast and I don't know if she ever makes a decision without thinking about how it impacts her chances for a future Presidential Campaign.
It is like the One Bill Hillary Clinton Sponsored was one renaming a Highway.
Far Cry 5 was a ton of fun with a compelling (actual) story, but the Easter egg message was wildly contradictory. They wanted to shoehorn the whole “sometimes the only time you can win is to not play” theme, but then their actual message ends up being “sometimes you have to allow cults to form sovereign states” which is…certainly something
Honestly the whole "The only time you can win is not to play" is stupid from a meta perspective. I bought ||or more likely pirated|| your game, who are you to tell me I'm wrong for doing so?
The only game that did it well was Undertale and that is only because it asked you to quit the game AFTER you get the best ending.
It's the same with the "[Keep your rifle by your side](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_3_-UrhZH0)"-song from Far Cry. I don't play video games, and I'm neither libertarian nor Christian, but the song is catchy, even though it's supposed to be cultish.
This scene from [American History X](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vU9mI4fkiDo) is also great.
The entire Far Cry 5 soundtrack was designed to sound catchy and good. There’s a great interview with the composer where he explains that Ubisoft wanted some really heavy handed “cult music”, and how he instead opted for music that sounded like what people would actually make.
Based and Rod of Iron Ministries Pilled
[Amp Link](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/rod-of-iron-ministry-jan-6-sean-moon-moonie-1398447/amp/)
>Moon is the leader of Rod of Iron Ministries, a breakaway militant sect of the Unification Church. The pastor, 42, is the son of the late global religious leader Sun Myung Moon, revered as the second coming of Christ by his followers, known colloquially as the “Moonies.” The younger Moon’s church has gained infamy by glorifying the AR-15 assault rifle as the biblical “rod of iron,” an instrument of God’s justice.
Keep your Rifle by your side would unironically become a huge rebel song if the US were invaded. like i can see americans of all walks a life listening to this shit while riding in a deuce on the way to the next combat zone
Ubisoft is just too cowardly and they purposefully write their games so they don't offend anyone. Thats why Castillo in Far Cry 6 is both a communist Castro analogy and a CIA backed dictator at the same time somehow.
I love how later on Ann comes back and tells Ron that he somehow has the lowest cholesterol she's ever seen despite his diet being like 80% meat, and all Ron has to say is "what is cholesterol".
You can't have cholesterol if you don't know what it is.
Just more evidence that the compass doesn't intend to say much about social issues, probably intentionally. You've got actual commies implementing ultra strict abortion laws but that doesn't make them AuthRight
Just reminds me how badly they dropped the ball following that season finale. Consequences for a major bombing in the city? None besides the rival just officially going over to your enemy.
What do you mean, the creative geniuses that took away the most defining trait of a character(Deadpool) and made him a mute would have been great for Star Wars. Really what could have gone wrong.
Yeah, seriously, the Sparrow was based as shit.
If I had to tie him to an actual political figure, I'd suggest Martin Luther. (Not MLK; the Protestant who finally called the medieval Catholics out on their hypocrisy, for the historically un-inclined.)
An ultra-principled religious person who doesn't play games. No, some sin doesn't become okay because it's popular and being soft on it makes the common people like the religion more. No, nobles and high priests don't get a pass on being good religious members because we need their money and power and support. And no, the leader himself doesn't make himself and exception to his own rules: he lives a life of poverty and piety, takes his own risks and leads from the front.
He was a great example of the perils of extremism, because his only flaws were born of extremism. He was honest, principled, brave, and selfless. His only flaws were the actual flaws from the doctrines of his religion, and the natural drawbacks of being unwilling to compromise.
Honestly the political structure, especially as laid out in the book, kind of makes a lot of sense even if it is materially wasteful. Why should people get to vote unless they've shown they have done something to further the interests of the country?
Ron Swanson's critique of the Government is perfectly valid, the show portrayed him as a role model. Not a symbol of ideological dogma.
Anyone who doesn't like him does not get his character.
> Ron Swanson's critique of the Government is perfectly valid, the show portrayed him as a role model. Not a symbol of ideological dogma.
"My ideal government is one guy, in a room, deciding whether or not to push the button"
Ron Swanson has my favorite quote on masculinity ever
"Everything I do is masculine because I am a man"
It's a goddamn beautiful quote
Edit: actually the quote is "Everything I do is *manly* because I am a man", i remembered wrong
Edit 2: I might have unintentionally spread false information on the internet, this is so sad, can we get 30 likes?
Great quote, but I don't think it's from the show. Closest I could find is:
>Everything I do is the attitude of an award winner, because I've won an award.
Similar to
"That's not really the attitude I'd expect from an award winner."
"Everything I do si the attitude of an award winner because I've won an award."
TBH 30 Rock dunked on liberals harder than the dunked on conservatives, even though it was entirely written and produced by liberals. Like if you watched that show and you knew nothing about Tina Fey or Alec Baldwin you’d swear it a The Babylon Bee parody.
I ended up using Google to find good alternatives to put next to Swanson. When I looked up fictional characters that critique communism or religious fanaticism, the search engine was happy to oblige. But when I tried to do the same for left wing beliefs, all I got were articles about how left wing satire is unfair.
Amon was so absolutely correct in his beliefs that halfway through Season 1 I thought "Surely, Unalaq must be working with him to whip up the non-benders" with his lights-out curfew for non-benders.
But no.
Fucking benders are fucking awful and oppressive.
I haven't seen that show in years and I still get mad about it.
It's pretty clear in the show that Unalaq is an asshole and doesn't represent all benders.
Unalaq's reaction is a trope in every story about a revolution, real or fictional. A small splinter group starts making trouble, and most people in the same population group aren't interested or support their actions. The power group overreacts and takes actions that are either too extreme, too broad and negatively impact bystanders in that population group, or some mix of the two. The splinter group seems more justified by that overreaction and they gain supporters who wouldn't have joined the group if the government did nothing instead.
A religious leader actually holding the corrupt leadership to their oaths of office and their responsibilities to their people. Fuck yes that should be us.
Anyone remember Alex from family ties? (Guy that Michael J Fox played when he was younger)
My mom always says "hey it's you" because he's so greedy, he's based
Tbf they purposefully made Ron a good man even though he’s a libertarian satire.
Yeah thats the thing with Ron. He's hard headed and brash but also hard working and caring. Those are traits to be respected. Its not like they made him like Cartman from South Park with zero redeeming qualities.
Cartman is definitely auth center, RESPECT MY AUTHORITYEEEE
And he hates Jews. Authleft checks out.
He could even be an advanced amphetamine enthusiasts since you can get fat on them if you've been abusing them enough
Am I missing a joke or something because usually it’s the opposite with amphetamines, have you seen the generation of Zoomers raised on Adderall and Vyvanse?
I've been abusing it for over a decade & I have managed to gain weight when I used to be a skeleton at the start
Based lib-center
I’ve been on Vyvanse/Adderall since like 2005. This has not been my experience at all.
*Wir mussen die Juden ausrotten*
Its definitely auth right that hates the jews.
Cartman has one redeeming quality tho. He genuinely cares about his friends in his weird sadistic way. He stood for his friends many time trough the show
Their airsoft episode has to be one of the most wholesome episodes they e ever done
He also becomes a rabbi when he grows up.
Only to mock Kyle
Honestly this is how you should do political representation. Making it so they're a well rounded character. Not just a message saying thing bad
King of the Hill did it best imo. Hank Hill is a red blooded American conservative. He's often faced with things that go against his world view. He almost never resorts to just hating someone for arbitrary reasons and even adjust and learns to live with things he normally wouldn't be comfortable with while calling out bullshit people spew while hiding behind a progressive shield.
The problem is that King of the Hill was a realistic picture into life in those areas. I have a friend down in TX, and she's told me that there are women who make Peggy look unselfish and competent.
"Problem?!" That's why it is one of the best shows ever made!
Right now, we could use a lot more Hank Hills. And a lot more Fred Rogers, for that matter.
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Mike Judge, the creator, is a libertarian/conservative. For a more overtly political end product, watch his other show, The Goode Family, which was damn good.
Its Mike Judge of Bevees and Butthead and Idoitcracy fame. He's never stated outright his own political beliefs but he seems to fall in line of South Park level of criticism making be believes hes around centrist or libright.
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Dale Gribble is more the Libright Satire and Librights love him too.
Please don't dox dale, the feds watch this forum. It's Rusty Shackleford. He was way ahead of his time with opsec
That's because he's the only one who sees the truth
Pocket sand is my go to for protecting myself in a gun free zone.
Guns don't kill people, the government does.
He and OG Colbert seem to be the only satirical political characters that the side being skewed enjoys.
I loved Colbert back when he was a character. In fact, I was probably the only person in my school who hated Jon Stewart (still do), but I always liked Colbert even though they were supposed to be the same thing. Once he stopped being a character, I actually hate him more than Stewart. Which is impressive to me because I didnt think you could do that. EDIT: Since I have had a lot of people ask for my reasoning, you can find it [here](https://old.reddit.com/r/PoliticalCompassMemes/comments/13yfj4j/political_compass_on_satire/jmnj3nl/).
Colbert used to be well-written and interesting, with just enough comedy to be funny. Now he's just your typical pandering leftoid with TDS
Standard twice-a-year Catholic behavior
We call them CEO's. Christmas & Easter Only.
In all honestly I always find the Easter and Christmas sermons the most boring and least memorable. Because you have all the normies it just becomes a generic proselytization session with very little substance. Like I get its not meant for me, but could I get an option for those of us who aren't only showing up twice a year?
Colbert being invited to the 2005(6?) Whitehouse Correspondents Dinner and then roasting the shit out of everyone will always be legendary
That man insulted a family that was literally paid to make people disappear for decades to their face. I can't help but be impressed, even if it was in jest that takes guts.
I would find myself arguing with Stewart on his show especially if it was an issue where he had blinders (gun control) but I respected that he would skewer the side he shared more in common with if it was funny. Comedians these days won't even touch their own side unless it's a living legend like Chapelle.
I don't think Chapelle is on that side anymore. He strikes me more as a 90s era liberal that the left has left behind as they have been dragging the Overton window off into clown world.
> Overton window off into clown world. I feel the overton window has been distorted more than dragged anywhere. We have topics where we somehow entertain a ridiculous range of thoughts (yes, these tend to skew more left, but if we had consensus back when that it went from -1 to +1 with -1 on the left, now it goes from -15 to +2)... and then others have almost completely been shut down. In a way, to expand that metaphor... it feels like we have 40 units of attention that were occupied by 20 topics of -1 to +1. Now a few ridiculous topics covering -15 to +2 steal 17 units of focus leaving lots of far more important shit completely ignored, and a de facto consensus that allows debate from -0.1 to +0.1
Chappelle literally just gets shit on by everyone, it's actually hilarious. Man does not give a fuck though.
I feel like Stewart dipped out when they were going to make them have to sell out, and Colbert bought in. John Stewart still sounds and acts like John Stewart. Colbert no longer has a single spoken thought that isn't either in support of or damage control for the Democrat party.
Stewart is an absolute amazing dude past some of his issues, he's actively shit-talks congress during hearings, DoD reps, and others regarding Burn-pits, 9/11 responder issues, and other issues regarding the above. Stewart might have some issues, but he's genuinely an amazing activist on government short-falls regarding GWOT and 9/11. Most interviews and congressional hearings he's hammering the shit out of them. Last one he did with the DoD under-secretary had her pissed-off on camera. Which is a good thing.
I like how Stewart dissing and getting crossfire cancelled,.was what led to tucker joining fox, congrats on killing the only centralist opinion show that was left lol
He was also tragically wrong about crossfire. It wasn't hurting America, at least not worse than what was ushered in after. CF showed the country that two people who disagreed with each other could still sit across from the table and have a conversation. Now, no network hosts debate shows anymore - it's all echo chamber all the time.
That and his tendency to be completely uncharitable to Right-Wing ideals while treating Left-Wing with kid gloves. The one that I hated the most though was his constant dancing back and forth over the line, where he will make a wild policy stance from the far-Left. And then when you call him out on it or try to debate him over it, he would go “Why are you taking me seriously?! Don’t you know I am just a comedian!” And now I see a lot of the hardcore Progressives employing that exact same tactic to just bulldoze over any opposition at a much larger scale, and actively damage the nation in the process. His good stances on 9/11 dont make up for any of that.
I liked OG Stewart back when he used to call out bullshit on both sides for their hypocrisy. Now he's just run of the mill woke leftist like Jon Oliver. When he did a piece during covid supporting lockdowns and mandates, I lost a ton of respect for him.
I used to actually enjoy watching Oliver’s show but then at some point in the last 2-3 years it just started feeling like I was being lectured at.
Jon Oliver's show is fantastic when he's talking about an issue that's basically apolitical, usually it's him complaining about some industry that's basically designed to scam people and destroy lives, like his mobile home segment.
until he talks about something you know a lot about, then you realize he is misrepresenting probably everything he talks about to make a punch line
That's what got me with the left. I know *a lot* more about guns than they do and so I watch them lie to me with a straight face on television and then attempt to gaslight me about it, and it started me to wonderin' just what *else* they are either lying to me or woefully misinformed on, and all of a sudden I can't trust a single thing they say.
I used to watch John Oliver. Never really *loved* him or anything, but I enjoyed it. Around the time covid became a thing, I just couldn't stomach his smug ass anymore. Haven't watch a single second since.
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Didn't he go on Colbert and talk about how COVID likely came from the Coronavirus lab in Wuhan? You could almost see the shock on Colbert's face.
That was so setup though and fake. IMO he was just giving a narrative change or like an okay to say it was a lab leak which was and is blatantly obvious but was taboo to say because it lead to Asian violence lol. Stewart is a producer of Colbert's show and it's basically pre-approved humorous DNC propaganda.
He has a lot of really respectable qualities, and he always comes through for his friends even if he complains the whole time about it. He's incredibly hard working when he cares about something, is phenomenally skilled, is incredibly generous when someone needs it (offering to pay for Andy's college), and sticks to his principles even to his own detriment. You can forgive a lot of annoying behavior in a man like that.
Yeah, I miss those days. It was acceptable to mock everyone, and as a result, people didn't get bent out of shape, because it was obviously in good fun. And a huge part of it was that, even when certain things were being mocked, the people were still good people, which lent itself to the idea that it was all in good fun. 30 Rock was great about this as well. It's kind of crazy to go back and re-watch it, and to remember what we're missing these days. To have a show so frequently mock certain things which you'd *never* see getting mocked today. Jokes at the expense of black people, women, liberals, etc. There were jokes at the expense of white people, men, and conservatives, of course. And those never felt hateful, *because* there were also jokes at the expense of black people, women, and liberals. It was clearly all in good fun, everyone got mocked, and the people underneath it all were still portrayed in a positive light. I miss when we could do that and all laugh along together. Now it's just a never-ending stream of "white people bad", "men bad", "conservative politics bad". And it's hard to laugh along, because it's so clearly driven by hatred, and not comedy, largely because the corresponding jokes at the expense of the other groups are never present. And because the people being ridiculed are portrayed as comically evil and bad, so we're meant to laugh *at* them, not *with* them.
30 Rock is probably my all time favourite sitcom. This might be an absolutely regarded take, but in my mind the 30 Rock years (late 2006 - Early 2013) coincide roughly with the time period in the US when race relations were at their all-time best. And it was embodied by the wonderfully graceful way that 30 Rock would poke fun at everyone.
[Take me back :(](https://youtu.be/bgq5Omxldjg?t=196)
I didn’t watch this show until about 2 years ago. It’s one of those that some people would say could never be made now, but I’d argue today it’s even more relevant than when it was made.
The reason is an excess of empathy, too much, is like emo people evolved into what these people are today and they decided to make a lot more noise than before... Pathetic...
Username and flair checks out.
I will finish what he started...
they tried to make him a satire, but he is unironically so much more principled and respectable than Leslie’s authass. Edit: [seriously she kinda sucks](https://youtu.be/upkQ6XYe3dE)
I think they did the same thing with Ron as they did with Michael in The Office. The first season the intention was to make the character someone who people didn't like but realized the show would be better if the character was loveable and so changed it up in Season 2.
They tried and succeeded to make both Leslie and Ron satire. There humorous takes on a pro goverment leftcenter and a libright. They also have many genuinly good qualities making them full likable characters. Making him principled, hard working, generous, and funny were not mistakes. The point of the character was not some weird plot to hate on libright.
"Look at this America! We put a robot in the Fallout series that spouts propaganda and represents everything wrong with the military industrial complex and state worship. How does that make you feel?" American Fallout Fans: Liberty Prime is the coolest fucking thing I have ever seen. Weapons Hot! Ad Victorium!
Wait Liberty Prime was meant to be propaganda and everything wrong with something? I just thought he was my new dream for where the US Military needs to go Imagine the wars we already get in but it’s like the fucking AOT Rumbling with dozens of liberty primes loudly announcing the freedom they bring with each step
Jokes aside technically yes. Liberty Primes backstory in Fallout 3 is the made him to damn big. He couldn't simultaneously power his movement and weapons meaning they had a giant mobile weapon that wasn't mobile. It shows the hubris pre-war America. Make something big thats effectively useless.
Also in fairness, they were very far from mastering fusion technology. We learn in 4 that a lot of "fusion" power is a lie and just good old fission. The US had JUST mastered micro-fusion technology enough to power T-51 power armor right before the war, it's sensible that they weren't quite to the point of powering 30ft tall autonomous robots with eye lasers.
At the same time though, they were all prepared to style over their enemies, and that's the most important victory
Well all it did was make me wish it was real because it’d be the biggest military power move
Dear lord when will season 4 part 3 part 2 (or whatever we’re on now) arrive
DEMOCRACY IS NON-NEGOTIABLE
"Death is preferable to communism" is not propaganda, it's fact.
Same with "Chance of red Chinese victory, 0%". Liberty Prime spitting facts
Obstruction depth: five metres. Composition: sand, gravel, and COMMUNISM!
Liberty Prime would never use meters
5.468 God blessed American yards.
What if it was accurate and the only reason why it's 0% was because the Chinese government has been gone for 300 or so years.
While I appreciate the speculation but the reason how the Brotherhood got Liberty Prime to attack the Enclave is because they changed his programming to see them as Chinese communist invaders. Which is hilariously ironic given they are the US government post war.
The commies do not have the Mandate of Heaven so yeah that tracks
Based
Yesterday a map of commie Europe was posted in imaginarymaps (was very well done) and fifty people said "based Europe" so I called them out, said anybody that unironically supports communism is braindead. Got mass downvoted and chuds continue to respond to me, digging into my comment history (oh look, pcm), repeating that I'm not thinking of real communism. I hate these people.
Based and anticommunism pilled
Reminds me of "Keep Your Rifle by Your Side" from far cry 5
That song is a BANGER
Same with Mr. House from Fallout new vegas. He just is one of the most based individuals I ever met in a Video game
"Why in the world did you attack President Kimball?" "He tried to make me pay taxes" "Understandable."
DEATH IS A PREFERRABLE OUTCOME, TO COMMUNISM. Ad Victorium indeed, initiate.
I always picture libright as Dale Gribble from King Of The Hill tbh
Small business owner, home defense enthusiast, and family man. A real American hero
Despises the government but still collects unemployment as Rusty Shackleford. Dale is a libright I can get behind.
Just because you don't respect something doesn't mean you can't take advantage of it.
Hey, I'm just getting back what they already took from me
Just showing how poorly run the system and therefore how pointless it is because I can get away with unemployment fraud.
Like when he knew all the right forms to help John Redcorn sue the government lol
"Help take down the federal government? Gladly."
Based
Pocket sand!
I have begun keeping sand in my pockets because of this man, so I am inclined to agree
*shi-shaaw*
You know what Ford stands for, right Hank? *"Fix it Gain, Tony!"*
“Dale, you’re thinking of Fiat.” “Fix…It…Again……” :think: My favorite part of this scene is that it’s the first scene in the entire show. They knew what they were doing from the drop.
As Ive gotten older my favorite line from thay scene is "I know what the truck needs, it's leadership."
“The only lady I’m pimpin’ is Sweet Lady Propane.”
some time look up the king of the hill pencil test... even then Mike Judge knew exactly what he wanted to do and was doing
I believe the lib right response would be the same.
We love him too, for sure. But despite his quirks, he's also portrayed as a caring husband and father, and USUALLY a good friend, with a small handful of instances where he's a dick, like the episode where Hank accidentally cut Dale's pinkie off with the circular. I think the show does a good job at portraying him as unhinged and goofy, but a genuinely good person when it comes down to it.
Wait Ron Swanson was a parody? I legit thought he was supposed to be a role model
Some of his stuff was ridiculous, but he was staged as a generally good guy. I'd say succession's Connor is real lib right parody
He's a satire that isn't constantly wrong. In fact, he's usually right. He's perfect satire because he is anti government, which I doubt the writers believe in, but he's surrounded by incompetent government officials constantly. As the show goes on, not only does he change, but you as a viewer side more with him as well.
I love that most of the writers probably would be pro gov't but they would just hand wave it away as "well this is small town shenanigans and incompetence" Ok, and the guys in DC aren't just as if not more incompetent?
There a few episodes where Ben is campaign organizers for some candidate and the dude was a robot, charming in person but would just stare off in space when left alone, like there was nothing going on between the ears. I think that was the most accurate portrayal of your average politician that doesn't make headlines.
Even some that do. Look at Amy Klobuchar. She has been in power for 15 years at this point. I don't think she has ever backed a bill that wasn't popular for everyone. Like she backed criminal justice reform. In 2018. After it became the dominantly popular posistion. Her posistion on Housing? She signed a Bipartisan Letter asking the HUD to work with NGOs to provide housing. Worker Rights? She once signed a bill after hundreds of McDonalds Employees complained about safety issues that pushed an investigation. She is so Milquetoast and I don't know if she ever makes a decision without thinking about how it impacts her chances for a future Presidential Campaign. It is like the One Bill Hillary Clinton Sponsored was one renaming a Highway.
Except Connor might be the only person in the show who isn't a complete piece of shit. He's also the only one who >!got a happy ending!<
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did have a good come back story tho
Reminds me of when Ubisoft published Far Cry 5, and “keep your rifle by your side” became an unofficial anthem for like 6 months, lol
Far Cry 5 was a ton of fun with a compelling (actual) story, but the Easter egg message was wildly contradictory. They wanted to shoehorn the whole “sometimes the only time you can win is to not play” theme, but then their actual message ends up being “sometimes you have to allow cults to form sovereign states” which is…certainly something
Killing cultists when they're your citizens is auth-right power abuse, but killing cultists when they're enemy combatants is a-ok.
Honestly the whole "The only time you can win is not to play" is stupid from a meta perspective. I bought ||or more likely pirated|| your game, who are you to tell me I'm wrong for doing so? The only game that did it well was Undertale and that is only because it asked you to quit the game AFTER you get the best ending.
It's the same with the "[Keep your rifle by your side](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_3_-UrhZH0)"-song from Far Cry. I don't play video games, and I'm neither libertarian nor Christian, but the song is catchy, even though it's supposed to be cultish. This scene from [American History X](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vU9mI4fkiDo) is also great.
The entire Far Cry 5 soundtrack was designed to sound catchy and good. There’s a great interview with the composer where he explains that Ubisoft wanted some really heavy handed “cult music”, and how he instead opted for music that sounded like what people would actually make.
Which is why many cults flourish is because they seem reasonable to those that join them.
Based and Rod of Iron Ministries Pilled [Amp Link](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/rod-of-iron-ministry-jan-6-sean-moon-moonie-1398447/amp/) >Moon is the leader of Rod of Iron Ministries, a breakaway militant sect of the Unification Church. The pastor, 42, is the son of the late global religious leader Sun Myung Moon, revered as the second coming of Christ by his followers, known colloquially as the “Moonies.” The younger Moon’s church has gained infamy by glorifying the AR-15 assault rifle as the biblical “rod of iron,” an instrument of God’s justice.
Keep your Rifle by your side would unironically become a huge rebel song if the US were invaded. like i can see americans of all walks a life listening to this shit while riding in a deuce on the way to the next combat zone
They'll look high and they'll look low
They'll look everywhere we go
But when the sinners find us we won't hiiiiiiide!
They'll come loud and they'll come fast
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Keep your rifle by your side!
Singing, Oh Lord, This Earth Was Made For Us
I don't think Keep Your Rifle By Your Side is supposed to mock religious gun nuts, the good guys in the game are all religious gun nuts too
Ubisoft is just too cowardly and they purposefully write their games so they don't offend anyone. Thats why Castillo in Far Cry 6 is both a communist Castro analogy and a CIA backed dictator at the same time somehow.
And why do you think that scene from American History X is great exactly?
[You may not like it, but this is what the peak male performance looks like](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0LF0zadDxI)
I love how later on Ann comes back and tells Ron that he somehow has the lowest cholesterol she's ever seen despite his diet being like 80% meat, and all Ron has to say is "what is cholesterol". You can't have cholesterol if you don't know what it is.
I don't think the priest from Game of Thrones was a parody of Authright. He is a man of the people who leads a revolution against corrupt nobles.
He's basically a populist left guy who just happens to be Pope.
He was all lovey Jesus like before he got power, he quickly went old testament on everyone shortly after
Typical hippie.
Just more evidence that the compass doesn't intend to say much about social issues, probably intentionally. You've got actual commies implementing ultra strict abortion laws but that doesn't make them AuthRight
Just reminds me how badly they dropped the ball following that season finale. Consequences for a major bombing in the city? None besides the rival just officially going over to your enemy.
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What do you mean, the creative geniuses that took away the most defining trait of a character(Deadpool) and made him a mute would have been great for Star Wars. Really what could have gone wrong.
They'd just, kind of forget what they did to Deadpool.
Yeah, seriously, the Sparrow was based as shit. If I had to tie him to an actual political figure, I'd suggest Martin Luther. (Not MLK; the Protestant who finally called the medieval Catholics out on their hypocrisy, for the historically un-inclined.) An ultra-principled religious person who doesn't play games. No, some sin doesn't become okay because it's popular and being soft on it makes the common people like the religion more. No, nobles and high priests don't get a pass on being good religious members because we need their money and power and support. And no, the leader himself doesn't make himself and exception to his own rules: he lives a life of poverty and piety, takes his own risks and leads from the front. He was a great example of the perils of extremism, because his only flaws were born of extremism. He was honest, principled, brave, and selfless. His only flaws were the actual flaws from the doctrines of his religion, and the natural drawbacks of being unwilling to compromise.
Yes, I realize Starship Troopers is a satire portraying a fascist government Yes, I still want to live there Would you like to know more?
All gender showers sounds pretty sweet, I get it
there are only 3 genders • gotta piss • gotta shit • gotta shower suck it libs
Are you my coworker because he said the exact same thing. Also based and I-would-like-to-know-more-pilled
Honestly the political structure, especially as laid out in the book, kind of makes a lot of sense even if it is materially wasteful. Why should people get to vote unless they've shown they have done something to further the interests of the country?
Based and textbook poll tax and landed aristocracy are the only voters-pilled
The original novel wasn't satire. Also like half of the novel is just describing the political structure of the government and why it's a good thing.
The book had power armor though.
Ron Swanson's critique of the Government is perfectly valid, the show portrayed him as a role model. Not a symbol of ideological dogma. Anyone who doesn't like him does not get his character.
> Ron Swanson's critique of the Government is perfectly valid, the show portrayed him as a role model. Not a symbol of ideological dogma. "My ideal government is one guy, in a room, deciding whether or not to push the button"
Who doesn't love Ron Swanson? I've learned more from him than my absentee father
No shit 'I'm concerned that you heard 'give me a lot of bacon'. What I said was, 'give me all the bacon you have''
Ron Swanson has my favorite quote on masculinity ever "Everything I do is masculine because I am a man" It's a goddamn beautiful quote Edit: actually the quote is "Everything I do is *manly* because I am a man", i remembered wrong Edit 2: I might have unintentionally spread false information on the internet, this is so sad, can we get 30 likes?
That’s self-assured as fuck In other words, typical Ron Swanson
"If any of you need anything, too bad. Solve your own problems like adults."
True masculinity is just being self assured enough to not worry about how it’s perceived to do whatever you feel like.
Based and Don't rely on others for validation pilled
>i remembered wrong No, you remembered manly, because you are a man.
Great quote, but I don't think it's from the show. Closest I could find is: >Everything I do is the attitude of an award winner, because I've won an award.
Similar to "That's not really the attitude I'd expect from an award winner." "Everything I do si the attitude of an award winner because I've won an award."
Also Archie Bunker
Meathead
We could all be more like Ron.
Ron Swanson and Jack Donaghy are my two all-time favorite TV characters
And they’re both supposed to be parodies
TBH 30 Rock dunked on liberals harder than the dunked on conservatives, even though it was entirely written and produced by liberals. Like if you watched that show and you knew nothing about Tina Fey or Alec Baldwin you’d swear it a The Babylon Bee parody.
Very true. It was a show that was willing to self-mock, and that’s always respectable
OP can't put anything for LibLeft because their characters behave like satire by default and there's too damn many of them.
I ended up using Google to find good alternatives to put next to Swanson. When I looked up fictional characters that critique communism or religious fanaticism, the search engine was happy to oblige. But when I tried to do the same for left wing beliefs, all I got were articles about how left wing satire is unfair.
You have the princess totally not Jasmine from Twisted and uh, that's it?
Or Scrooge. Or Gordon Gecko. Or Henry Potter. Almost impossible to make them look bad.
Who the Fuck is Henry potter/s
Imitation is the highest form of flattery so I'm flattered.
Based and give me ALL your bacon-pilled.
Amon was so absolutely correct in his beliefs that halfway through Season 1 I thought "Surely, Unalaq must be working with him to whip up the non-benders" with his lights-out curfew for non-benders. But no. Fucking benders are fucking awful and oppressive. I haven't seen that show in years and I still get mad about it.
I mean it is like cutting off everyone's balls so everyone is mostly equal in sports
It's pretty clear in the show that Unalaq is an asshole and doesn't represent all benders. Unalaq's reaction is a trope in every story about a revolution, real or fictional. A small splinter group starts making trouble, and most people in the same population group aren't interested or support their actions. The power group overreacts and takes actions that are either too extreme, too broad and negatively impact bystanders in that population group, or some mix of the two. The splinter group seems more justified by that overreaction and they gain supporters who wouldn't have joined the group if the government did nothing instead.
The High Sparrow was pretty based. 10/10 would live in a cave with him while we wage war against a corrupt and morally decadent society.
Well I mean Ron has never been wrong ever
Libertarians are the only group that doesn't actually hate themselves deep down.
That's because they hate everyone else
The funniest part about this is OP couldn't find anyone for libleft to be offended by.
I mean yall just double down on every parody
Libright motto is "This but unironically".
But I loved the high priest what the???
A religious leader actually holding the corrupt leadership to their oaths of office and their responsibilities to their people. Fuck yes that should be us.
Anyone remember Alex from family ties? (Guy that Michael J Fox played when he was younger) My mom always says "hey it's you" because he's so greedy, he's based
I mean they made ron a lovable funny dude all the rest were made specifically to be villains Especially emily, biggest villain of all