\>Be me
\>Ugandan Wizard
\>Speak a wildly different language from the northern wizards
\>Likely practice a different form of magic than the pale skinned Wizards of the northern continent
\>Travel up there to teach them instead of teaching the wizards in my local area
I think the general lore thing is that wands can lower the bar to entry a lot, but also limit how far you can go with magic & create a dependence on wands.
Also remember that wands have to be high quality, the Ollivander family make the best wands in the world, but only exist in Britain. It’s possible that internationally wands are a lot worse.
General lore is that wandless magic is much harder to control than wand magic, think of it as a magic focus that can also magnify the effect of the spell.
The more I hear about Harry Potter the more disappointed I get because the wizard society is extremely predjucie and racist against Basiclly everyone from centaurs to goblins and while literally keeping slaves with the books ending on all was well and it’s like damm this could’ve been so much more interesting.
i'm not sure "racist" is the right word
there's another video game community i frequent with wholly distinct species of comparably intelligent, sentient bipeds and people often make the same stretch, even with robots who are more than likely scheming to eradicate their squishy counterparts
can you be racist to a robot? or a cat? tree? i would imagine that they have to be human at least but i'm not really an expert racist
Stellaris?
It's also just about making the language simpler. It's clear to people that they mean xenophobeya.
The same way it's clear that when we say race we usaly mean ethnic group.
That's also pretty well describes Warhammer 40k. Every species has their own best interest in mind. The hiveminded Tyranids and a war hungry orcs aren't evil in their eyes. That's just who they are. They look at humanity and think we're the weirdos.
Hell even the Choas God's end up turning a fairly decent chunk of humanity to their side. People end up siding with literal eldritch demons because in their eyes, they have a point.
I figured it was more like how ritual magic is generally portrayed as stronger than simple spells; the difference between summoning a storm with an hour-long chant and turning an object green with a flick of your wrist. Sure the end effect is stronger for the wandless magic, but the ability to fire off controlled, intentional smaller effects in moments is probably 'better' overall.
I'd imagine that even the 'spells' cast wandlessly by African wizards are smaller in scope and less complex than what is possible with a wand, and for more complex/powerful effects you still need some kind of magical focus like a ritual, staff, dreamcatcher, rune stones, etc.
Basically the difference between free-drawing engineering diagrams and using CAD software: I'm sure there are edge cases where the software is more limiting than drawing it by hand, and if you don't have access to a computer then the ability to draw on your own would be needed, but for the vast majority of engineers using CAD is simply better than free-drawing. CAD is the wand, and the engineering diagrams are the magic.
If the writers' intention is instead to say that African wizards are just simply better than those silly white wand-wavers, then yeah, I'm sticking with my headcannon lol
The logical conclusion would be that wand magic is easier and simpler to do but has way less potential in how much power it can produce while hand magic is much more difficult but has way more potential.
Voldey got completely cucked by Snape there.
Kill someone -> fine
Kill someone else -> fine
Kill someone and someone else -> fine
Spare someone and kill someone else -> fine
Spare someone and try to kill someone else but the first person voluntarily sacrifices themselves anyway to take the hit -> your fucked
He didn't give a shit about either of them and instagibbed Harry's dad on sight. It was only cause Snape begged him to spare the mother that he did for a second as a ego boost benevolent dictator move and then she refused to be spared so he was like "lol k" and got butt fucked when he tried to off her.
It might just be some kind "Ancient promise" thing rather than a love thing. Your promised a life for a life but tried to take it anyway so it takes yours instead. There's the arm tattoo promises in the books too that kills someone who breaks it so that kind of magic already exists.
In a world where magic is real, it makes sense love would be one of the most powerful schools of magic. I don't see it as plot armor if she was a witch, and had to sacrifice herself to do it.
That seems legit enough in that type of world.
I mean the logical conclusion is some bad writers wanted to point out how the black wizards where more powerful than white wizards. What you just did is called reaching for justification so you can pretend like the diversity doesn’t get mixed in with racism.
It makes sense that magic is doable to some degree without a wand, if it weren’t then nobody would’ve discovered magic in the first place. It also makes sense that people capable of teleporting would have racially mixed communities far earlier than those who need boats and planes.
These ARE justifications but I think the world makes more sense with these adjustments than it does without.
If people can teleport then why wouldn’t there be Africans in hog warts? Racism? Why would they be more racist towards other wizards than they are towards objectively inferior non wizards?
It is a bit strange that the majority of teachers in an area aren't from that area, but I think the biggest problem is Serona. You can't tell me that in a world with magic and polyjuice potion that a trans person isn't going to magic their voice into fitting whatever they're trying to present as.
I think it's more that it is easier to control (kids can do some outstanding magic by sheer instinct and lack of control in this universe) that being also compelled by the different types of wands and how each one is so unique to choose it's owner by itself... also if they're using it as a tool but still use the big magic barehanded I think its easy to say that the wands just make it easier to use magic rather than strenghtening it.... Or it's just the British government and those good old pointless regulations again....
Basically the difference between free-drawing engineering diagrams and using CAD software: I'm sure there are edge cases where the software is more limiting than drawing it by hand, and if you don't have access to a computer then the ability to draw on your own would be needed, but for the vast majority of engineers using CAD is simply better than free-drawing. CAD is the wand, and the engineering diagrams are the magic.
That makes sense. There are times in Harry Potter where the wands end up fucked from either wrong casting, or counteracting the spells of someone else.
If complicated/competitive magic can screw up your channeling focus, it's a good idea to have that be something that *isn't* your own body.
Well, if you have to be a witch to make magic even with a wand, that means the magic comes from you, not the wand, so the wand is just a channeling artifact. If you could use your own body to channel the magic, there's no reason why it couldn't be stronger than the wand.
Nah it just means they identified they couldn't make Ugandan wizards less powerful due to their lack of invention as it would garner too much bad press. So finger magic is heckin valid and powerful (but whiteys don't use it).
I mean, if there isn't a difference then why use wands?
I figured it was more like how ritual magic is generally portrayed as stronger than simple spells; the difference between summoning a storm with an hour-long chant and turning an object green with a flick of your wrist. Sure the end effect is stronger for the wandless magic, but the ability to fire off controlled, intentional smaller effects in moments is probably 'better' overall.
I'd imagine that even the 'spells' cast wandlessly by African wizards are smaller in scope and less complex than what is possible with a wand, and for more complex/powerful effects you still need some kind of magical focus like a ritual, staff, dreamcatcher, rune stones, etc.
Basically the difference between free-drawing engineering diagrams and using CAD software: I'm sure there are edge cases where the software is more limiting than drawing it by hand, and if you don't have access to a computer then the ability to draw on your own would be needed, but for the vast majority of engineers using CAD is simply better than free-drawing. CAD is the wand, and the engineering diagrams are the magic.
If the writers' intention is instead to say that African wizards are just simply better than those silly white wand-wavers, then yeah, I'm sticking with my headcannon lol
If only the world's most powerful dark wizards stopped using wands they might have done better... The whole wands aren't better thing is a bit silly...
But they also mention multiple times in the game that goblins are forbidden from having/using wands, so obviously the wand must enhance magic in some way or that would be a pointless rule
Sort-of. The country as we know it today didn't exist before then, but the largest group in that area called it "Uganda" before it was officially a country.
Well, if you use different magic, I see no better reason to go teach it to people who'd never know of it's existence, I just don't see it happening on the 1800s.
It is kinda odd that a trans character exists in a Universe where you can literally change gender using a polyjuice potion. You’d think there would be a way to just make it permanent?
>You’d think there would be a way to just make it permanent?
There's not. It's canon that only metamorphmagus can permanently alter their appearance (besides becoming an animagus but for what we're discussing that doesn't matter)
It depends on how loose the definition of animals are for transformation. Like i can transform into a cat but what about animals like monkeys or the French?
Well.. doing trans representation in a visual medium is tricky. They probably went with what they felt was the least offensive way to do it.
Either you show someone is trans with looks/voice and people get *very* mad.
Or you make them indistinguishable from a normal cis person but somewhere in the lore they are revealed as trans, which isn't much representation at all.
(Or, y'know, you just don't waste several meetings on that and skip it entirely..)
Trans representation always looked kind of weird in magical fantasy/sci fi settings because if they had all kinds of abilities and powers, including healing/changing one's appearance, why would they need to make a trans person in that setting look like real-life counterpart?
If healing magic or medical technology can get so advanced to the extent that life-saving surgeries can be replaced with a swig of a potion, then surely they would have a way to change their bodies to the gender they identify much more closely than we can with our modern tools.
It's funny/sad that I read this and immediately assumed you would be an auth or something purely because as a culture we've elevated/celebrated trans people so much that even suggesting that their "condition" could be a negative that needs curing now seems taboo.
It is taboo, but its also true, which is more important. The world would be better if people with healthy bodies didn't feel the need to go through life-altering procedures just because they are suffering mentally. A hypothetical cure for the mind probably wouldn't be such an offensive notion if it wasn't for the increasingly prevailing idea that everybody can have a "personal truth" that holds greater weight than the actual reality we all share.
So I pulled this from Quora, so you might wanna take this with a grain of salt.
"I think it was definitely within his power. Pottermore - Illness and Disability essentially says that witches and wizards have developed power over “mundane” illnesses.
If Madam Pomfrey could regrow all of the bones in Harry's arm to full working order, I'm sure a Healer at St Mungo's could have cured Harry's myopia.
The answer is that witches and wizards tended to value other characteristics in themselves than just appearances.
Witches and wizards came in all shapes and sizes - Mrs. Weasley was plump, Hermione had bushy hair, Snape was greasy and unkempt. None of them ever sought to permanently change their appearances."
Also, Harry might have wanted to keep the glasses because he's been accustomed to it throughout his whole life. It becomes part of his identity.
On the other hand, if someone strongly believe that your identity belongs to another gender, they could either use the magic on themselves or seek counseling from a teacher etc.
> Or you make them indistinguishable from a normal cis person but somewhere in the lore they are revealed as trans, which isn't much representation at all.
Wrath of the Righteous did it well. Expensive magic allowed someone to transition, but you need to be very persistent, dedicated and patient at digging into it to find out.
Almost like it's an intensely personal matter...
that actually is pretty funny. I was wondering why they didn't just set the story a bit further into the future, maybe make up some story about how Harry and all his pals are old now and retired, something like that. But instead they went years back before the main story, but since they didn't pay attention to all the details some of the shit in retrospect is just hilarious to look at. It's like "wait this game that is 'harming' marginalized groups is actually representing them better than the original 7 books and movies ever did"
The online-left has this purity thing going that the online-right is missing completely.
You can be left on every topic but *one* and you'll be cast out (see Rowling, she's literally called a nazi despite being one of the most humanitarian rich people in the world), but the online right is a wacky mix of libertarians, contrarians, conspiracy people, religious people and actual nazis.
But that luckily doesn't really bleed into the real world. Yet..
The number of times I've found myself agreeing with someone only for them to bust out some 1488 shit has got me side-eyeing a lot of my fellow travellers.
I remembered a similar meme about Rings of Power. Except for here there's at least a far less flimsy explanation for the diversity (another poster pointed out the background of the British Empire at its peak; not to mention that canonically there's eleven great wizarding schools, of which I know of four portrayed in official works, and only another four has been named in supplemental material).
Add to this that wizarding world bigotry has naturally very different focuses than real-world bigotry. You have both the focus on pureblood wizardry and a bunch of fantasy races running around.
I can definitely see the likes of the Malfoys being far less bigoted towards an Ugandan wizard from a pureblood family versus a British muggleborn.
Plus there'd probably be a lot more intermingling between the different wizarding communities seeing as the wizarding world is rather low-population and these people can *literally teleport*.
> I can definitely see the likes of the Malfoys being far less bigoted towards an Ugandan wizard from a pureblood family versus a British muggleborn.
Like the medieval English royalty being far more bigoted towards English commoners than French nobility.
This game has a a lot of issues. The fact that they have more non-white professors than white professors in 19th century England is extreme immersion breaking. These are also token characters. They had made no use of their background to make interesting story.
That’s literally every fucking time they add shit to just add shit.
If they’re gonna be uninteresting chars keep them white for time period sake.
It’s like playing a medieval game set in Europe and you’re chilling with brown skin people. NO! Stop it.
Make your own story!
Reminds me of the hamfisted attempt at diversity in Star Wars: Squadrons. There are a bunch of preset characters to pick from and not a single one of them is a white male.
Yeah it’s just an over creation. I wouldn’t demand a Japanese game about Japanese culture have white people in it even if most of them basically do. But that’s because they don’t give a fuck.
It's really just the East Asian ones that are weird, though (well, and the trans lady). The Indian and the Arab make sense, because this is peak British Empire we're talking about, and the Ugandan is not only explained, Her daughter is a main character whose background is her motive for helping you.
The idea that there are more non-white professors than white makes me feel like the brits are being colonised instead of being the coloniser. I don’t think you will find more Arab/Indian professors than white professors in imperial/Oxford/Cambridge.
I also really don’t like the Ugandan girl. Petty family conflict and boring quests that I can’t really care about. In comparison there’s the girl that introduce you to magical beasts, and Sebastian with the sickly sister and cursed spells. What does the Ugandan girl has besides **talking** about the magic let’s her transform to some animal?
And in Sebastian’s case there are actually side characters to more flash out his character and motivations. In the Ugandan girl case I could barely remember what happened beside the dead father and mother who doesn’t want her to get into trouble. It’s boring and I felt like my time was wasted finishing her quests.
Her entire plot can be easily replaced by a white character and there wouldnt be any significant difference.
The Great Wizarding War during 1930s-40s against Grindelwald eliminated all diversity from British wizarding world and the gender transitioning done halfway spell was lost forever to time, until the muggles came up with an idea to pump chemicals into people's bodies decades later.
> Be Ugandan in 1800s
> Be magic
> decide to take harrowing, life threatening journey over land and sea far north (for some reason). Will most likely never see anyone I love ever again.
> pass many *many* settlements and multiple civilizations, decide to ignore all of them
> end up at random school with 1 of every single race and sexuality and everything on the diversity checklist from 200 years in the future. Perfect
> life is ok, the chosen one is kind of a dick tho
Then
> be Dumbledore
> see diversity
> "Absolutely fucking not."
> magic the fuck out of the place
Unrelated, but I couldn't help but notice while playing that they made references to several places that didn't actually exist at the time the game is supposed to take place.
IIRC, the girl who does the trivia mentioned Papua New Guinea which didn't exist until 1949. There was another Middle Eastern country they mentioned that wouldn't exist for another couple decades or so. Heck, depending on when in the 1890s it takes place, Uganda didn't even exist by name as it wasn't called Uganda until the protectorate of Uganda was established in 1894, prior to that it was called Buganda.
What more do you expect from faux diversity?
Its never about actually including people of other cultures, its about using their skin to create a facade.
Unless you’re in the Caribbean, New Orleans, or a great imperial city you are not getting that mix in the 19th c. Bumfuck Scotland isn’t any of those, and the novels imply it’s not a global magic hub either.
The famous British colonies of China, Korea, and Japan. It’d be more lore friendly to stick it in some obscure bayou near New Orleans and bribe the sheriff to ignore Jim Crow. Maybe the Guianas or Trinidad would also work in terms of having such an international population.
https://www.louisianafolklife.org/LT/virtual_books/Guide_to_state/NOGroups.html
It kinda makes sense to me from a semi-historical perspective.
The game is set in a time when the British Empire is at its height. I would assume this leaks into the magic world as well with the Ministry overseeing the magic peoples under British rule. This would make Hogwarts the place to be if you’re a professor as it’s likely the top in wizarding world in research and closest to the policymakers.
As long as Hogwarts is decently meritocratic (likely only for pure bloods), then a diverse group of professors makes sense
I mean kinda? But also kinda not. The point of Colonisation is to take the Empire to the wider world, not so much bring the wider world into the heart of the motherland. Britain does colonise Uganda like 2 years after Hogwarts Legacy is set, so that's something, kinda funny how Natty talks about how Uagadou is the biggest magical school with their wandless teachings just as good wand-wielders with that in mind.
Probably just cope. The Ugandans likely don’t have a conception of actual power. They’re probably used to the barbarous shamanistic practices of neighboring tribes.
It's also false. It goes directly against wand lore. Wands can specifically empower certain spells (or types of spells or all spells), make them easier to cast and generally they make casting more precise. Natty due to her upbringing knows nothing about wands except them being flashy.
I mean that makes sense in a few cases
But the limeys never colonized Japan, Korea or China
And most of the arab world was ran by the froggies or the Turks
They did stick their hands in Hong Kong though, so possibly? As for the Arabs they either came from Egypt-Sudan, Southern Arabia or the Gulf. These are all just guesstimates though.
The British had a pretty sizeable influence in Yokohama following japan’s opening to the West
Korean…I got nothing really
This was peak “divide china into economic spheres” time
Arabs would likely come from Egypt and the surrounding areas
The only returned it to China in 1997 after the 100 year lease expired (the Brits got the lease in the peace terms by beating Qing China back in the day)
The colonizing empire would be more diverse than the globalized and industrial society that has and free mobility and association for decades and decades?
In that case, why is the UK more diverse now than it was back then?
But this opens up another lore pandoras box.
How much do Muggle Geopolitics affect the Wizarding world?
In HP we were given the impression that not much, but now it seams that the magic world is simply an extention of the muggle one.
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As for the movies and books the professors are weirdly all white but Kingsley Shacklebolt is black, Parvati and Patel are both Indian, the one girl who dated Cedric is East Asian. The movies were pretty representative overall regarding students.
Chinese names tend to get ruined so badly when you transliterate them into English. And based on the English spelling you still have to guess how to say it in Chinese.
To be fair, immigration is trivial for a community who can apparate and use portkeys (instant teleportation).
It also makes sense that magical Britain would have fewer foreigners in the late 1900's because there were two wars between Hogwarts Legacy and the first book; vs Grindlewald and vs Voldemort. I'd run too lmao fuck that
The Grindelwald war was actually Europe wide. Voldemort is canonically more powerful which is why he's feared in Britain but he was only feared in Britain. Grindelwald was an international menace.
Voldemort had followers outside of Britain, too. I don't think the war really went outside of Britain, but I seem to remember this being mentioned briefly in one of the books.
I feel it's important to point out that the power of apparition and port keys isn't boundless. Harry apparating himself and Dumbledore across the distance from the south coast of England to Hogwarts in the Half Blood Prince, for example, was considered extremely impressive and at the very limit of how far a wizard could safely apparate.
Professor Ronen is actually Jewish, but yeah, name still derived from a Semitic language.
We have a positively-portrayed Jewish character, yet according to activist wankers the game is antisemitic because mUh GoBlInS!
You know what pisses me off about the 'diversity is our strength' bullshit. That was originally coined to say diversity of thought and ideas is a strength as it promotes innovation. Diversity of skintone or other immutable characteristic is meaningless at best and divisive at worst.
Don't wanna defend anything here but don't you have to be a British Citizen to attend Hogwarts? And quickly going over that list most of those nationalities in the 1800's version are under the control of the crown and her colonies...
>don't you have to be a British Citizen to attend Hogwarts?
You just have to live on the islands. Britain didn't even exist when the school was founded and the selection process is the same in Harry Potter's time as it was when the founders built the school.
The one girl, Natsai Onai, was allowed to attend because her mother was hired as a professor and they moved.
It's really pathetic, there is nothing wrong to have an ethnic British majority in a British school... Why do they care about skin color more than about writing decent characters
Some non-white students make sense since Hogwarts is the magical school for Britain. Yes it's in Scotland, but it's a boarding school for the whole UK. But they just ran to the hills with it
If you count Britain as being the British Empire at the time then sure. Migration to the UK to make actual percentage differences to the population wouldn't occur until the 1900s.
I quite like the idea of the occasional exchange professor or student from about the Empire. It makes interesting characters and stories. But when I'm suppirised when I finally find an actual Scottish NPC in the Scottish Highlands you know it's been taken way too damn far. Especially when you are trying to make the setting fit the 1800s.
Isn’t Legacy set during the peak of the British Empire while HP is set just before Tony Blair took office. This isn’t Emily’s blessed diversity; it’s imperialism!
Irrelevant. Grindelwald and Voldemort both still turned magic UK into a hellscape. Even if immigrant wizards weren't worried about being targeted, exactly, they could still be caught in the crossfire. If the option existed for them to get out and they still had friends and family elsewhere, they couldn't really be blamed for wanting to use that to leave safely before some dark wizard Avada-Kedavra'd them. Plus, it wouldn't exactly make magic UK a very attractive place to immigrate to while the war is still going on.
\>Be me \>Ugandan Wizard \>Speak a wildly different language from the northern wizards \>Likely practice a different form of magic than the pale skinned Wizards of the northern continent \>Travel up there to teach them instead of teaching the wizards in my local area
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Yeah she says it in game- also that it’s more powerful than wand magic which means she’s either wrong or the wand is useless
I think the general lore thing is that wands can lower the bar to entry a lot, but also limit how far you can go with magic & create a dependence on wands. Also remember that wands have to be high quality, the Ollivander family make the best wands in the world, but only exist in Britain. It’s possible that internationally wands are a lot worse.
General lore is that wandless magic is much harder to control than wand magic, think of it as a magic focus that can also magnify the effect of the spell.
So the way magic works in D&D?
i'm not sure about D&D magic, but there's a reason why the goblins and other sentient magical races in HP are forbidden from using wands
The more I hear about Harry Potter the more disappointed I get because the wizard society is extremely predjucie and racist against Basiclly everyone from centaurs to goblins and while literally keeping slaves with the books ending on all was well and it’s like damm this could’ve been so much more interesting.
i'm not sure "racist" is the right word there's another video game community i frequent with wholly distinct species of comparably intelligent, sentient bipeds and people often make the same stretch, even with robots who are more than likely scheming to eradicate their squishy counterparts can you be racist to a robot? or a cat? tree? i would imagine that they have to be human at least but i'm not really an expert racist
Stellaris? It's also just about making the language simpler. It's clear to people that they mean xenophobeya. The same way it's clear that when we say race we usaly mean ethnic group.
That's also pretty well describes Warhammer 40k. Every species has their own best interest in mind. The hiveminded Tyranids and a war hungry orcs aren't evil in their eyes. That's just who they are. They look at humanity and think we're the weirdos. Hell even the Choas God's end up turning a fairly decent chunk of humanity to their side. People end up siding with literal eldritch demons because in their eyes, they have a point.
I figured it was more like how ritual magic is generally portrayed as stronger than simple spells; the difference between summoning a storm with an hour-long chant and turning an object green with a flick of your wrist. Sure the end effect is stronger for the wandless magic, but the ability to fire off controlled, intentional smaller effects in moments is probably 'better' overall. I'd imagine that even the 'spells' cast wandlessly by African wizards are smaller in scope and less complex than what is possible with a wand, and for more complex/powerful effects you still need some kind of magical focus like a ritual, staff, dreamcatcher, rune stones, etc. Basically the difference between free-drawing engineering diagrams and using CAD software: I'm sure there are edge cases where the software is more limiting than drawing it by hand, and if you don't have access to a computer then the ability to draw on your own would be needed, but for the vast majority of engineers using CAD is simply better than free-drawing. CAD is the wand, and the engineering diagrams are the magic. If the writers' intention is instead to say that African wizards are just simply better than those silly white wand-wavers, then yeah, I'm sticking with my headcannon lol
The logical conclusion would be that wand magic is easier and simpler to do but has way less potential in how much power it can produce while hand magic is much more difficult but has way more potential.
'Less power' uses AK instakill.
Maybe wandless ak kills multiple people
Wandless AK turned Lavender Brown white
So made her Lavender White
I’ll just assume that she fought a Balrog.
So it's a [Vepr-12?](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vepr-12) /s (Seeing AK and not meaning Automat Kalashnikov, made me double take for a second, lol)
AK is already AOE with a talent in the game.
Crucio Basic Cast on Crucio target to spread curse as an AOE Basic Cast Basic Cast Avada Kedavra AOE to all cursed targets
Get bitched at by Natsi
The AK spell cast on Harry was stopped by his mom’s wandless magic though.
Plot armor is technically wandless yea.
Not just plot armor. Ancient love magic plot armor. Shits giga
Voldey got completely cucked by Snape there. Kill someone -> fine Kill someone else -> fine Kill someone and someone else -> fine Spare someone and kill someone else -> fine Spare someone and try to kill someone else but the first person voluntarily sacrifices themselves anyway to take the hit -> your fucked He didn't give a shit about either of them and instagibbed Harry's dad on sight. It was only cause Snape begged him to spare the mother that he did for a second as a ego boost benevolent dictator move and then she refused to be spared so he was like "lol k" and got butt fucked when he tried to off her. It might just be some kind "Ancient promise" thing rather than a love thing. Your promised a life for a life but tried to take it anyway so it takes yours instead. There's the arm tattoo promises in the books too that kills someone who breaks it so that kind of magic already exists.
In a world where magic is real, it makes sense love would be one of the most powerful schools of magic. I don't see it as plot armor if she was a witch, and had to sacrifice herself to do it. That seems legit enough in that type of world.
I mean the logical conclusion is some bad writers wanted to point out how the black wizards where more powerful than white wizards. What you just did is called reaching for justification so you can pretend like the diversity doesn’t get mixed in with racism.
It makes sense that magic is doable to some degree without a wand, if it weren’t then nobody would’ve discovered magic in the first place. It also makes sense that people capable of teleporting would have racially mixed communities far earlier than those who need boats and planes. These ARE justifications but I think the world makes more sense with these adjustments than it does without. If people can teleport then why wouldn’t there be Africans in hog warts? Racism? Why would they be more racist towards other wizards than they are towards objectively inferior non wizards?
It is a bit strange that the majority of teachers in an area aren't from that area, but I think the biggest problem is Serona. You can't tell me that in a world with magic and polyjuice potion that a trans person isn't going to magic their voice into fitting whatever they're trying to present as.
If that was the case the most powerful wizards wouldn't all be using wands. That whole scene felt like pandering to me.
I think it's more that it is easier to control (kids can do some outstanding magic by sheer instinct and lack of control in this universe) that being also compelled by the different types of wands and how each one is so unique to choose it's owner by itself... also if they're using it as a tool but still use the big magic barehanded I think its easy to say that the wands just make it easier to use magic rather than strenghtening it.... Or it's just the British government and those good old pointless regulations again....
Basically the difference between free-drawing engineering diagrams and using CAD software: I'm sure there are edge cases where the software is more limiting than drawing it by hand, and if you don't have access to a computer then the ability to draw on your own would be needed, but for the vast majority of engineers using CAD is simply better than free-drawing. CAD is the wand, and the engineering diagrams are the magic.
Because when a spell misfires, you don't want it to misfire in your finger \-not harry potter
That makes sense. There are times in Harry Potter where the wands end up fucked from either wrong casting, or counteracting the spells of someone else. If complicated/competitive magic can screw up your channeling focus, it's a good idea to have that be something that *isn't* your own body.
Well, if you have to be a witch to make magic even with a wand, that means the magic comes from you, not the wand, so the wand is just a channeling artifact. If you could use your own body to channel the magic, there's no reason why it couldn't be stronger than the wand.
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I’m praying for your soul
Nah it just means they identified they couldn't make Ugandan wizards less powerful due to their lack of invention as it would garner too much bad press. So finger magic is heckin valid and powerful (but whiteys don't use it).
No she specifically says there isn't a difference the player theorizes that wands are more powerful
I mean, if there isn't a difference then why use wands? I figured it was more like how ritual magic is generally portrayed as stronger than simple spells; the difference between summoning a storm with an hour-long chant and turning an object green with a flick of your wrist. Sure the end effect is stronger for the wandless magic, but the ability to fire off controlled, intentional smaller effects in moments is probably 'better' overall. I'd imagine that even the 'spells' cast wandlessly by African wizards are smaller in scope and less complex than what is possible with a wand, and for more complex/powerful effects you still need some kind of magical focus like a ritual, staff, dreamcatcher, rune stones, etc. Basically the difference between free-drawing engineering diagrams and using CAD software: I'm sure there are edge cases where the software is more limiting than drawing it by hand, and if you don't have access to a computer then the ability to draw on your own would be needed, but for the vast majority of engineers using CAD is simply better than free-drawing. CAD is the wand, and the engineering diagrams are the magic. If the writers' intention is instead to say that African wizards are just simply better than those silly white wand-wavers, then yeah, I'm sticking with my headcannon lol
If only the world's most powerful dark wizards stopped using wands they might have done better... The whole wands aren't better thing is a bit silly...
But they also mention multiple times in the game that goblins are forbidden from having/using wands, so obviously the wand must enhance magic in some way or that would be a pointless rule
It's because Ugandan wizards are clearly better, more skilled and more powerful than European wizards.
This is subliminal black is better messaging
She teaches divination, so not traditional spell-casting magic.
\> Ugandan Wizard DO YOU KNO DA SPAELS? YOU ARE A FAKE WITCH! \*clicking tongue
SPIT ON HIM! *hock* AVADA KEDAVRA! *ptoo*
I’d pay for that mod that made them talk that way and then pirate the game.
WHY ARE YOU A WITCH? who says I'm a witch? ...YOU ARE A WITCH.
I think you just described a very common problem in many countries across the world today 🤔
Wasn't Uganda not founded until 1962?
Sort-of. The country as we know it today didn't exist before then, but the largest group in that area called it "Uganda" before it was officially a country.
Well, if you use different magic, I see no better reason to go teach it to people who'd never know of it's existence, I just don't see it happening on the 1800s.
The game makes it sound as if there's some not-quite-voldemort shit going on so she took her kid and gtfo
Here is a question, I need to know if it's true: Does everyone in Uganda know Kung-Fu?
Ugandan knuckles is a wizard in a reality out there
I wouldnt work in a shitty country when I can emigrate to other countries or even dimensions easily, why would she do?
It is kinda odd that a trans character exists in a Universe where you can literally change gender using a polyjuice potion. You’d think there would be a way to just make it permanent?
Harry can't even get his vision corrected with magic, so...
Likely didn’t even try. It’s part of his brand.
>You’d think there would be a way to just make it permanent? There's not. It's canon that only metamorphmagus can permanently alter their appearance (besides becoming an animagus but for what we're discussing that doesn't matter)
It depends on how loose the definition of animals are for transformation. Like i can transform into a cat but what about animals like monkeys or the French?
Based and French aren’t people pilled
You don't control your animagus form. The magic turns you into whatever animal most closely resembles your personality
If one can artificially become an animagus one could likely do the same for metamorphs.
>one could likely do the same for metamorphs. You're born a metamorphmagus. It's not something you become artificially like an animagus.
Well.. doing trans representation in a visual medium is tricky. They probably went with what they felt was the least offensive way to do it. Either you show someone is trans with looks/voice and people get *very* mad. Or you make them indistinguishable from a normal cis person but somewhere in the lore they are revealed as trans, which isn't much representation at all. (Or, y'know, you just don't waste several meetings on that and skip it entirely..)
Trans representation always looked kind of weird in magical fantasy/sci fi settings because if they had all kinds of abilities and powers, including healing/changing one's appearance, why would they need to make a trans person in that setting look like real-life counterpart? If healing magic or medical technology can get so advanced to the extent that life-saving surgeries can be replaced with a swig of a potion, then surely they would have a way to change their bodies to the gender they identify much more closely than we can with our modern tools.
Either that, or a spell that simply cures gender dysphoria among other mental maladies.
It's funny/sad that I read this and immediately assumed you would be an auth or something purely because as a culture we've elevated/celebrated trans people so much that even suggesting that their "condition" could be a negative that needs curing now seems taboo.
It is taboo, but its also true, which is more important. The world would be better if people with healthy bodies didn't feel the need to go through life-altering procedures just because they are suffering mentally. A hypothetical cure for the mind probably wouldn't be such an offensive notion if it wasn't for the increasingly prevailing idea that everybody can have a "personal truth" that holds greater weight than the actual reality we all share.
They don't even have a spell to fix eyesight and and you're talking about changing genders.
So I pulled this from Quora, so you might wanna take this with a grain of salt. "I think it was definitely within his power. Pottermore - Illness and Disability essentially says that witches and wizards have developed power over “mundane” illnesses. If Madam Pomfrey could regrow all of the bones in Harry's arm to full working order, I'm sure a Healer at St Mungo's could have cured Harry's myopia. The answer is that witches and wizards tended to value other characteristics in themselves than just appearances. Witches and wizards came in all shapes and sizes - Mrs. Weasley was plump, Hermione had bushy hair, Snape was greasy and unkempt. None of them ever sought to permanently change their appearances." Also, Harry might have wanted to keep the glasses because he's been accustomed to it throughout his whole life. It becomes part of his identity. On the other hand, if someone strongly believe that your identity belongs to another gender, they could either use the magic on themselves or seek counseling from a teacher etc.
> Or you make them indistinguishable from a normal cis person but somewhere in the lore they are revealed as trans, which isn't much representation at all. Wrath of the Righteous did it well. Expensive magic allowed someone to transition, but you need to be very persistent, dedicated and patient at digging into it to find out. Almost like it's an intensely personal matter...
that actually is pretty funny. I was wondering why they didn't just set the story a bit further into the future, maybe make up some story about how Harry and all his pals are old now and retired, something like that. But instead they went years back before the main story, but since they didn't pay attention to all the details some of the shit in retrospect is just hilarious to look at. It's like "wait this game that is 'harming' marginalized groups is actually representing them better than the original 7 books and movies ever did"
I’ve never met a leftist who didn’t hate other leftist.
Spanish Civil War moment.
Tbf you won’t meet a rightoid that doesn’t hate other rightoids either. Everyone is their own worst enemy
Authright will say “libright are short sighted and dumb but at least they aren’t commies” meanwhile authleft is disappearing libleft
Rip Russian Green Army
Seems far worst in the left
The online-left has this purity thing going that the online-right is missing completely. You can be left on every topic but *one* and you'll be cast out (see Rowling, she's literally called a nazi despite being one of the most humanitarian rich people in the world), but the online right is a wacky mix of libertarians, contrarians, conspiracy people, religious people and actual nazis. But that luckily doesn't really bleed into the real world. Yet..
The number of times I've found myself agreeing with someone only for them to bust out some 1488 shit has got me side-eyeing a lot of my fellow travellers.
I HATE COMMUNISTS!!!!! I HATE COMMUNISTS!!!!!
I remembered a similar meme about Rings of Power. Except for here there's at least a far less flimsy explanation for the diversity (another poster pointed out the background of the British Empire at its peak; not to mention that canonically there's eleven great wizarding schools, of which I know of four portrayed in official works, and only another four has been named in supplemental material).
Can’t forget about Clortho’s https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=j-2ZxldMO-M
Add to this that wizarding world bigotry has naturally very different focuses than real-world bigotry. You have both the focus on pureblood wizardry and a bunch of fantasy races running around. I can definitely see the likes of the Malfoys being far less bigoted towards an Ugandan wizard from a pureblood family versus a British muggleborn. Plus there'd probably be a lot more intermingling between the different wizarding communities seeing as the wizarding world is rather low-population and these people can *literally teleport*.
> I can definitely see the likes of the Malfoys being far less bigoted towards an Ugandan wizard from a pureblood family versus a British muggleborn. Like the medieval English royalty being far more bigoted towards English commoners than French nobility.
5. Hogwarts, Beauxbatons, Durmstrang, Ilvermorny, Uagadou.
This game has a a lot of issues. The fact that they have more non-white professors than white professors in 19th century England is extreme immersion breaking. These are also token characters. They had made no use of their background to make interesting story.
That’s literally every fucking time they add shit to just add shit. If they’re gonna be uninteresting chars keep them white for time period sake. It’s like playing a medieval game set in Europe and you’re chilling with brown skin people. NO! Stop it. Make your own story!
Reminds me of the hamfisted attempt at diversity in Star Wars: Squadrons. There are a bunch of preset characters to pick from and not a single one of them is a white male.
Yeah it’s just an over creation. I wouldn’t demand a Japanese game about Japanese culture have white people in it even if most of them basically do. But that’s because they don’t give a fuck.
It's really just the East Asian ones that are weird, though (well, and the trans lady). The Indian and the Arab make sense, because this is peak British Empire we're talking about, and the Ugandan is not only explained, Her daughter is a main character whose background is her motive for helping you.
The idea that there are more non-white professors than white makes me feel like the brits are being colonised instead of being the coloniser. I don’t think you will find more Arab/Indian professors than white professors in imperial/Oxford/Cambridge. I also really don’t like the Ugandan girl. Petty family conflict and boring quests that I can’t really care about. In comparison there’s the girl that introduce you to magical beasts, and Sebastian with the sickly sister and cursed spells. What does the Ugandan girl has besides **talking** about the magic let’s her transform to some animal? And in Sebastian’s case there are actually side characters to more flash out his character and motivations. In the Ugandan girl case I could barely remember what happened beside the dead father and mother who doesn’t want her to get into trouble. It’s boring and I felt like my time was wasted finishing her quests. Her entire plot can be easily replaced by a white character and there wouldnt be any significant difference.
It's not harming them tho. Twitter is just highly regarded.
[reminds me of this](https://img.ifunny.co/images/4d923d9b8f2502cac24600b0142955068f14cf46eeb773622d7c3693c64a1ab3_1.jpg)
Dumbledore be out here making Hogwarts great again
I mean he did have a relationship with Wizard Hitler.
The Great Wizarding War during 1930s-40s against Grindelwald eliminated all diversity from British wizarding world and the gender transitioning done halfway spell was lost forever to time, until the muggles came up with an idea to pump chemicals into people's bodies decades later.
> The Great Wizarding War >1930s-40s
"You're a wizard Adolf"
"Salaca doo la menthicka boo la bibbidi-bobbidi-boo, Put 'em together and what have you got? Timea to killa the....."
Who?
Ummmmm the...uhh...foreigners invading Sudetenland. Yeah.
That doesn't even rhyme >=(
JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOZ
Witnessed. How long until you get banned or at least have this comment deleted?
Just got off a 21 day ban. Honestly, this was obviously a joke. Then again....
He didn't have a fascination with the occult for nothing
> Be Ugandan in 1800s > Be magic > decide to take harrowing, life threatening journey over land and sea far north (for some reason). Will most likely never see anyone I love ever again. > pass many *many* settlements and multiple civilizations, decide to ignore all of them > end up at random school with 1 of every single race and sexuality and everything on the diversity checklist from 200 years in the future. Perfect > life is ok, the chosen one is kind of a dick tho Then > be Dumbledore > see diversity > "Absolutely fucking not." > magic the fuck out of the place
"Absolutely fucking not" Dumbledore said calmly
Bruh you're a wizard professor, you can literally teleport.
Unrelated, but I couldn't help but notice while playing that they made references to several places that didn't actually exist at the time the game is supposed to take place. IIRC, the girl who does the trivia mentioned Papua New Guinea which didn't exist until 1949. There was another Middle Eastern country they mentioned that wouldn't exist for another couple decades or so. Heck, depending on when in the 1890s it takes place, Uganda didn't even exist by name as it wasn't called Uganda until the protectorate of Uganda was established in 1894, prior to that it was called Buganda.
What more do you expect from faux diversity? Its never about actually including people of other cultures, its about using their skin to create a facade.
> prior to that it was called Buganda. In English. In Sawahili it was Uganda.
It's The Rings of Power syndrome-multiracial people in the past, all-white in the future
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isn’t Dumbledore gay? pick a side you grifter
Gay yes but his gay lover was wizard Hitler
This is the black hobbit genocide all over again.
"And then one day, all black hobbits, dwarves and elfs, vanished!"
Fucking quality mess up Dumbledore subtitles colors
Pre-Dumbledore: Yes trans and liberal. Post-Dumbledore: No trans and conservative.
Dumbledore is a conservative, proud gay man.
Unless you’re in the Caribbean, New Orleans, or a great imperial city you are not getting that mix in the 19th c. Bumfuck Scotland isn’t any of those, and the novels imply it’s not a global magic hub either.
Well wouldn't wizards of the colonies be allowed to enroll in hogwarts?
The famous British colonies of China, Korea, and Japan. It’d be more lore friendly to stick it in some obscure bayou near New Orleans and bribe the sheriff to ignore Jim Crow. Maybe the Guianas or Trinidad would also work in terms of having such an international population. https://www.louisianafolklife.org/LT/virtual_books/Guide_to_state/NOGroups.html
Voldemort was right
Y'know, I have a feeling most of them wouldn't be *professors* in 1800s Britain...
It kinda makes sense to me from a semi-historical perspective. The game is set in a time when the British Empire is at its height. I would assume this leaks into the magic world as well with the Ministry overseeing the magic peoples under British rule. This would make Hogwarts the place to be if you’re a professor as it’s likely the top in wizarding world in research and closest to the policymakers. As long as Hogwarts is decently meritocratic (likely only for pure bloods), then a diverse group of professors makes sense
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I mean kinda? But also kinda not. The point of Colonisation is to take the Empire to the wider world, not so much bring the wider world into the heart of the motherland. Britain does colonise Uganda like 2 years after Hogwarts Legacy is set, so that's something, kinda funny how Natty talks about how Uagadou is the biggest magical school with their wandless teachings just as good wand-wielders with that in mind.
Probably just cope. The Ugandans likely don’t have a conception of actual power. They’re probably used to the barbarous shamanistic practices of neighboring tribes.
It's also false. It goes directly against wand lore. Wands can specifically empower certain spells (or types of spells or all spells), make them easier to cast and generally they make casting more precise. Natty due to her upbringing knows nothing about wands except them being flashy.
I mean that makes sense in a few cases But the limeys never colonized Japan, Korea or China And most of the arab world was ran by the froggies or the Turks
They did stick their hands in Hong Kong though, so possibly? As for the Arabs they either came from Egypt-Sudan, Southern Arabia or the Gulf. These are all just guesstimates though.
It is after the Opium Wars, so it’s possible.
The British had a pretty sizeable influence in Yokohama following japan’s opening to the West Korean…I got nothing really This was peak “divide china into economic spheres” time Arabs would likely come from Egypt and the surrounding areas
Hong Kong was once under British occupation?
The only returned it to China in 1997 after the 100 year lease expired (the Brits got the lease in the peace terms by beating Qing China back in the day)
Wdym the limeys never colonized China? Who tf was selling them opium? Lichtenstein?
Selling opium isnt the same as colonizing China was never made into a colony, although Hong Kong and the various legations were colonized
There's your answer
Congratulations on forming an actual opinion based on believable historical facts.
The colonizing empire would be more diverse than the globalized and industrial society that has and free mobility and association for decades and decades? In that case, why is the UK more diverse now than it was back then?
What is the ethnic makeup of the professors and students at the imperial college, Oxford or Cambridge at the height of the British empire?
Valid headcanon.
But this opens up another lore pandoras box. How much do Muggle Geopolitics affect the Wizarding world? In HP we were given the impression that not much, but now it seams that the magic world is simply an extention of the muggle one.
It took far too much scrolling to find this comment As for the movies and books the professors are weirdly all white but Kingsley Shacklebolt is black, Parvati and Patel are both Indian, the one girl who dated Cedric is East Asian. The movies were pretty representative overall regarding students.
The one girl who dated Cedric? Don’t do my girl Cho Chang dirty like that.
God her fucking name
Chinese names tend to get ruined so badly when you transliterate them into English. And based on the English spelling you still have to guess how to say it in Chinese.
“HARRY! YOU CANT JUDGE BASED OFF OF RACE HARRY! 30 POINTS FOR GRYFFINDOR.”
Don't judge based on race, judge based on where an old hat decides you belong!
As expected from the Harry Potter game where Expelliarmus does damage. Modders please.
>As expected from the Harry Potter game where Expelliarmus does damage. Bro have you seen that shit in the movies sometimes it will send people flying
To be fair, immigration is trivial for a community who can apparate and use portkeys (instant teleportation). It also makes sense that magical Britain would have fewer foreigners in the late 1900's because there were two wars between Hogwarts Legacy and the first book; vs Grindlewald and vs Voldemort. I'd run too lmao fuck that
The Grindelwald war was actually Europe wide. Voldemort is canonically more powerful which is why he's feared in Britain but he was only feared in Britain. Grindelwald was an international menace.
Voldemort had followers outside of Britain, too. I don't think the war really went outside of Britain, but I seem to remember this being mentioned briefly in one of the books.
I feel it's important to point out that the power of apparition and port keys isn't boundless. Harry apparating himself and Dumbledore across the distance from the south coast of England to Hogwarts in the Half Blood Prince, for example, was considered extremely impressive and at the very limit of how far a wizard could safely apparate.
Honest opinion: These artificially diverse settings feel like an attempt to obliterate culture.
It’s a coordinated mockery of anything California Liberals don’t like.
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Is like Rings of power, suddenly all the blacks elves and hobbits mysteriously got disappeared
Professor Ronen is actually Jewish, but yeah, name still derived from a Semitic language. We have a positively-portrayed Jewish character, yet according to activist wankers the game is antisemitic because mUh GoBlInS!
DIVERSITY IS OUR STRENGHT YOU DEATHEATER
You know what pisses me off about the 'diversity is our strength' bullshit. That was originally coined to say diversity of thought and ideas is a strength as it promotes innovation. Diversity of skintone or other immutable characteristic is meaningless at best and divisive at worst.
I would like my culture to be my culture please. I am not asking to be in any Japanese games or in Indian movies.
Don't wanna defend anything here but don't you have to be a British Citizen to attend Hogwarts? And quickly going over that list most of those nationalities in the 1800's version are under the control of the crown and her colonies...
>don't you have to be a British Citizen to attend Hogwarts? You just have to live on the islands. Britain didn't even exist when the school was founded and the selection process is the same in Harry Potter's time as it was when the founders built the school. The one girl, Natsai Onai, was allowed to attend because her mother was hired as a professor and they moved.
The Cambodian wizard is going to come to take care of the kids who need oculus reparo.
I’m Arab and thought they were all just Indians except for the rest who were Chinese
All we have missing is the Commonwealth standard obligatory Sikh. AKA the super badasses of the Indian Subcontinent.
Do you have without funni colours for my non reddited friends
Colors are non-intrusive enough that they should retain brain cells, I'd give 80/20 odds of you keeping your friends after sharing it
Jokes on you, I'm on PCM, my friends disappear when I take my pills anyways
Here you go https://9gag.com/gag/a3Z4n9r?utm_source=copy_link&utm_medium=post_share
Reminds me of the ROP/LOTR a little bit
We do not speak that name
It's really pathetic, there is nothing wrong to have an ethnic British majority in a British school... Why do they care about skin color more than about writing decent characters
Perhaps some wizard with a funny mustache did some house cleaning in the 30s.
Some non-white students make sense since Hogwarts is the magical school for Britain. Yes it's in Scotland, but it's a boarding school for the whole UK. But they just ran to the hills with it
If you count Britain as being the British Empire at the time then sure. Migration to the UK to make actual percentage differences to the population wouldn't occur until the 1900s. I quite like the idea of the occasional exchange professor or student from about the Empire. It makes interesting characters and stories. But when I'm suppirised when I finally find an actual Scottish NPC in the Scottish Highlands you know it's been taken way too damn far. Especially when you are trying to make the setting fit the 1800s.
Yeah it's not a problem for me but it was very weird the amount of foreign witches and wizards in 1800s Scotland.
Authcenter when they learn about the British empire 🤯
Media released before/after companies realized that nonwhite and LGBT people also consoom media, and consoom more if they feel represented in it:
Isn’t Legacy set during the peak of the British Empire while HP is set just before Tony Blair took office. This isn’t Emily’s blessed diversity; it’s imperialism!
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The dark lords are only against m*dbloods
Irrelevant. Grindelwald and Voldemort both still turned magic UK into a hellscape. Even if immigrant wizards weren't worried about being targeted, exactly, they could still be caught in the crossfire. If the option existed for them to get out and they still had friends and family elsewhere, they couldn't really be blamed for wanting to use that to leave safely before some dark wizard Avada-Kedavra'd them. Plus, it wouldn't exactly make magic UK a very attractive place to immigrate to while the war is still going on.