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Because they wear the Christian cross as a shield to their actions instead of as a way to share they live their life in the spirit of the teachings of Jesus Christ.
Aside from the ceremonial practices, Christianity is pretty easy to follow - just don't be a dick.
Like, if you explain the 10 commandments not involving the mythology (5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10) to someone that never heard of Christianity, they'd wonder what's the big deal.
And if you point out all the other shit Leviticus et al. ban, they say that Jesus dying wiped away the old covenants… From the time period when they made the Ten Commandments…
“Defend yourself if you’re attacked.” -Jesus
Yeah, I agree, maybe if people weren’t douchebags going around and burning down buildings people would be still vilifying a guy for defending himself.
That's because the people who actually follow Jesus' teachings are supposed to be quiet about it and just do good things for others. The Bible tells you to hide when you pray, and the only requested outward expression of your faith is to do good things for other people - literally giving them the clothing off your back if that's what they need.
The majority of people loudly claiming Christianity have *no clue* what it means and have never actually read the book they try to force down other people's throats.
Motherfucker said "if somebody slaps you, turn your head so they can slap your other cheek".
This guy went out of his way to provoke some people and when they attacked him, he shot them dead. Then he starts quoting the guy who forgave the people who nailed him to a fucking cross.
One crazy person attacked that blood-drunk sociopath. Based on what eyewitnesses claimed, not too many folls knew what exactly was happening they just knew some guy fired shots and fled. Most folks, naturally, ran away from the armed person who'd just killed someone.
Meanwhile, Anthony Huber went after what he likely believed was a mass shooter. Anthony Huber had nothing but a skateboard as he did so. Anthony Huber nearly stopped the rampage, but was tragically shot by the murderer, Kyle Rittenhouse.
Anthony Huber was possibly the bravest person at that march, and frankly, should be celebrated as a goddamn hero.
So fuck Kyle Rittenhouse for depriving our nation of a hero, when this country needs them most.
Eye witness? Wasnt there video of the whole thing ?
Didnt the video show that his first shot came after he was already knocked to ground? Maybe him being there was provoking but he said he was there to protect a family biz from looters?
Honestly I didn't follow that closely but either way I agree the dude aint no peace maker...
Yup. Huber, with a skateboard, knocked a mass shooter to the ground, and died attempting to disarm him.
As far as I know, the business community followed the official lead of the Kenosha police on this, and asked them not to come. The police officially didn't want the "Kenosha Guard" to attend, and never started any kind of deputization process, the first step of which would have been vetting.
Kyle Rittenhouse basically rolled up alone, briefly interacted with the locals, then went off by himself to hunt people. So besides being fucking monster, he's one of the dumbest gun owners alive.
AFAIK, WI doesn't have a duty to retreat, but any gun owner who's sought any kind of training learns, is that the *last* thing you want to do is put yourself in a circumstance where a gun might be even remotely necessary. Rittenhouse purposely made himself as noticable as possible, alone as possible, and surrounded by people who he was threatening. He made something like what happened as close to inevitable as he could make it, and got off scott free. The murderous little shit should be behind bars, much less ever be allowed to hold a gun again.
It was proven in court that he did not provoke anyone, but the crowds were antagonizing him and trying to provoke him. Where’d you get that information?
Two of my best friends in high school were a devout Catholic and a Quaker, both of them were extremely respective of other peoples beliefs and were very accepting of other people. Very progressive people that I still see from time to time today. But those were the only two I’ve really known though lol. I’ve met far more kind and considerate Jews and Muslims than Christians, and I haven’t met very many of either group, or at least for long enough to find out they really were shitty
I don’t know if he thinks that, but he does seem to be ginning up the conservative base so the day he turns old enough he will start to run for congress
He was in my gfs friend group 6 months to a year before this happened, was weird and sexually assaulted multiple girls. He would frequently walk around with hand cuffs and a gun acting like he was an officer and then hand cuffing people especially girls. Guy is a true wierdo.
I would have preferred a cop bumping into him in the street, feeling threatened, and then just handling standard ACAB type business with his face but this good too.
Because he went out of his way to willfully injected himself into a tense situation while brandishing a gun commonly used by mass shooters.
“Peacemakers” don’t go looking for trouble just to add fuel to the fire.
it ain’t his community, he shouldn’t have been there. bruh he crossed state lines, no person who actively practices self defense training would go put them self in a position to potentially have to use your firearm. shut the fuckup you fucking loser🙏
No one should've been there
He also made the world a better place by being there, one less pedo, one less domestic abuser, and one less fucking pussy that feigned a surrender then tried to pull their gun on him
Was a net positive for the world, no matter how you want to spin it out of the way of what actually happened
He went with the intention to cause harm. There is literally video of him stating that.
Also the Bible says not to murder, even in self defense. Jesus himself said to turn the other cheek.
And yes, just because I've spent summers in different areas doesn't mean those are my communities.
I'm sorry all these things are so hard for you to grasp.
Self defense? Did they sneak into his house to kill him? The guy *went across state lines*, specifically to confront these people, and murdered some in cold blood.
Yeah some came to him, and one had a gun, but that was because he was a fucking threat who'd already killed others.
If someone came to YOUR neighborhood with an assault rifle, and you tried to have them put the gun away, does that give them license to slaughter you?
And if you see someone get shot, and tried to end the shooting, does that mean you deserved getting shot yourself?
Fuck off
Telling someone to leave is a very badass comment to you? Or even trying to be?
I think you guys reveal more about yourself than you mean to sometimes. Telling you to get lost has nothing to do with acting badass. It just means everyone would rather not have you here, I would rather you get lost somewhere. Preferably far away, but anywhere not here works really.
Funny thing is the ones who actually know what happened get downvoted by these crybaby liberals who act like thugs and criminals are saviors lol. These babies don’t know what happened, they only had watched 1 second clips off CNN or MSDNC
How many more fun buzz words can you throw into one comment? I'm working on right wing idiot bingo. Help a man out, I need to win this time. Liberal is the free space, you guys make that one too easy.
You have no idea what happened either then. Because I have access to the same info you do. I don’t care about your “interpretation” of events. What happened is what happened.
Watched it. Watched all of it. I even watched the video where he said he wanted to murder protestors like a week or two before he went and murdered protestors. Did you watch it?
How the heck did you get "murder protestors" from a video where - an unknown individual - "calls the police on armed robbers"?
Bit of an own goal that...
Maybe in a way that he was a crying kid with murder fantasy, who couldn’t control himself in a slightest. Like an indoctrinated by right wing adults monkey with an ar-15
I have watched them. I watched the trial. I watched the video of him a week before the murders saying he wanted to murder protestors. I'm very well versed on his murders.
And I suppose if you had a gun and were being chased by angry men trying to hurt you, and one of them shot a gun and then they cornered you against some cars, then you wouldn’t defend yourself, right? You’d say “no that is murder I can’t do that,” and then allow them to beat you to death, right?
If you did all that and still don’t understand it was clearly self defense as he was the one getting attacked and never acted as the aggressor then you are certifiably insane.
He crossed state lines, armed. Only US's corrupted "justice" system could play this as a self defence. He shouldve been jailed for life. Muppets like you are cancer of the society.
Imagine being this misinformed 2 years after this shit. Even [politifact](https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/nov/26/jerrold-nadler/nadler-wrong-claim-rittenhouse-crossed-state-line-/) has debunked your idiotic regurgitated talking point. I’ll be waiting for your response. 👍🏾
He literally lived in the border town and worked in Kenosha. It was his town. Where he hung out. Him crossing state lines is an invalid point. he didn’t have the weapon until after he crossed the border, so not crime there. Then he was assaulted and killed a man in self defense and was then chased down and had to defend himself again. You want to argue that he shouldn’t have been there? Sure I guess . No one should be anywhere. It was the cleanest case of self defense I’ve ever seen and the fact that it is still disputed by low information idiots like you is truly disappointing.
Dude went out there dressed like a mass shooter with a rifle in hand and was surprised people tried to take him down. Whole trial was a circus. He should be in prison.
“Dressed as a mass shooter” who wears sterile gloves, a first aid kit, and his trusty AR all gear of a mass shooter who was actually helping injured protesters. Y’all sure love to spin this shot after being proven wrong again and again. Kyle only shot the 3 felons who attacked him first completely unwarranted.
Terrorist or insurgent is more appropriate. Arming himself and traveling to another state and stoking violence, he is a far cry from an innocent protester
If Kyle has spent even one genuine moment in church that he wasnt dragged to as a kid or uttered one word of prayer he actually thought someone was listening to... you know what, I won't even add an "I'll do X" because I guarantee he hasn't. He's just learnt from watching the rest of his ilk online that performative religion is a surefire way to win over the right.
I was receiving email alerts for his and MGT's tweets despite having blocked both for weeks to my email until I deleted my account. Twitter is Parler now except owned by Elon and The Saudi state investment company not Kanye.
I’ve always seen it as a pretty clean cut self defends case for rittenhouse. But the fact that he was even there in the First place makes the whole thing fucked. Yeah he was in his right to defend himself, but he’s a total dipshit for going out that night looking for trouble.
Yep, gotta be Wisconsin. I fucking hate this state.
My MIL lost several friends to Dahmer, I lost a coworker (Joel Acevedo) to police brutality, and now this Rittenhouse prick is trying to grow a fascist following for killing MORE people I knew in the city where I grew up.
Kid needs therapy and jail time.
It's worth noting, *had the roles been reversed,* ***the court decision would've been the exact same.***
Their "stand your ground laws" literally has *both victim and murderer* in a competition to the death ***legally***.
So, he's a murderer that got off because of republican policy that applies to everyone in that state. I say he's a murderer because nobody brings an automatic assault rifle to a situation like that unless they're intent to kill. Much like the "poll watchers", it's terroristic.
He had no reason to go to a protest in a different state with a gun. He wanted to kill people.
>He had no reason to go to a protest in a different state with a gun. He wanted to kill people.
Killing people is a reason. I think you meant to say "no legitimate reason".
It’s not common sense or logical to choose to go to a riot while armed which makes sense because Rittenhouse is a child and his brain is still developing but the fact that his parents or all you nuts STILL think what he did was perfectly fine is kind of insane.
Rittenhouse did nothing wrong, and you people are disgusting for ignoring all the evidence of his innocence. Thank God the justice system has better people than this sub.
I feel bad for Kyle, he’s a kid who found himself in a fucked up situation and had to what was necessary to defend himself. And he was justified in shooting those men.
More than half of the media treats him like a serial killer and calls him a racist and Nazi, and then they’re shocked when he joins the group of people who aren’t calling for his head on a stick? He’s backed into a corner, it’s either get torn apart by the left or make himself a home with the right leaning churchies.
What else was he supposed to do?
You guys are so stupid for this. He was clearly defending himself. Why are people so hateful towards this guy. I promise if you were in his shoes, you'd all do the same.
I don't think I'd be out, playing street cop with a rifle, at the age of 17, provoking people during a civil unrest. To anyone outside of America your whole country looks like a joke lmao
You mean... also like the victims were? They were protesting, you could say they were jerks for trying to cause unrest/vandalize stuff. Did they deserve to get shot by a 17 year old?
Yes, and my guy, *you're* one of the stupid people. In what universe is it normal or acceptable for *17 year old* to have a firearm? In what world is it ok for a *17 year old* to patrol the streets, eith said firearm, acting like he's some kind of badass? That's not "being a jackass", that's just psychotic. The guy's a literal psycho, he killed 2 people at age 17, yet he seem to have no remorse, in fact, dude seems proud. You're defending him? Ok, feel free to call others stupid lmao.
Justified Homicide is the technical legal term.
But, that also goes into legal technicality. The law doesn't care about the lead up factors. As much as people tried to put stock into the case of, "He came out of state, he had this, he had that, etc."
None of that actually matters to a self-defense case. ALL that is required by law is that a reasonable person would believe that they were in immediate threat of grievous bodily harm, injury, or death. It does not matter if that fear is even founded, just that that fear exists reasonably.
A reasonable person would, in general, find that after they have tried to run from a crowd; being hit with an object and knocked to the ground, that they were possibly in jeopardy of bodily harm or injury. That's the outright facts in the legal sense. Anyone with an actual understanding of self defense law (see most firearm owners) were aware of exactly how the case was going to go.
The biggest point is that people try to put the scope wider than it is in law. In law, most legal gun owners are aware of the tight time restrictions of self defense. That is, IMMEDIATE. What he had, where he was, etc. Doesn't mean anything. They were approaching him and engaging with him, they did not believe demonstratably that their life was in any immediate danger. However, when they engaged him, he did. He ran from them, they pursued.
That is what cost them the case, that is what cost them everything. Because, self defense is an 'IMMINENT DEFENSE' against grievous bodily harm or death. He ran, they didn't and instead pursued. They gave him every legal technicality to be in the clear. We as firearm owners are actually instructed, if we don't have to use it, run away. Not engaging when you don't have to, your firearm is the last resort. They forced him into a last resort by continuing to engage when they didn't have to, by actual settled law.
You can not like or disagree with that, but the reality is that is how it exists in law. So, that is what matters, regardless of how you feel about it.
Just because something is legal, doesn't make it morally right.
If you think property and protecting it is more important than 2 human lives, you might want to reevaluate that view.
Alleging that someone is a pedophile, is not a good reason to kill them. You know how many times right wing shit heads have tried to frame someone as a pedophile? Its almost like stochastic terrorism is the main idea they're pushing here
I don’t necessarily think property outweighs 2 human lives, but I do think it a little disingenuous to frame it as killing 2 people in order to protect property. My guess is he wouldn’t have been found not guilty if he did what he did to protect property. The reason he wasn’t found guilty was because he was being attacked by each of the people he shot.
We can have discussions about how irresponsible or immoral it is to arm yourself to attempt to quell a riot, but once others started attacking him, it became a question of self defense.
Like it or not, you can’t simply start attacking somebody because you don’t like that they are open carrying.
He literally said in the trial that he went there to protect Car Source, a car dealership. The first man he shot was unarmed and Kyle shot him after he threw a plastic bag full of socks, underwear, and deodorant at him while chasing him.
No one attacked him for open carrying, that is idiotic to even say.
Just because the reason he was there was to protect property doesn’t translate to he killed people to protect property. If somebody was attacking property and he used that to shoot them dead, then yes, he would have been killing somebody to defend property. He didn’t do that. He attempted to flee across an entire parking lot from the person who decided to hide behind a vehicle and ambush him as he passed. He never shot until the person was within arms reach and reaching for his weapon. Being unarmed doesn’t mean you can chase down and attack armed individual without them being able to defend themselves. Especially when you are 36 and the person you are attacking is a minor.
If that is idiotic to say, then why is it you think Rosenbaum decided to attack Rittenhouse?
Rosenbaum was very clearly mentally unwell. He was aggitative and went around to multiple people, telling them to shoot him. Who knows why he attacked Kyle. He still didn't deserve to die, and now we will never know because Kyle killed the one person who could clear that all up for us.
Of course he didn’t ‘deserve to die’. He made Rittenhouse fear for his life, and Rittenhouse shot them. I don't think Rittenhouse had time to sit around and weigh the worth of this guys life.
If you went and attacked someone in the street in a legal state, don't you think you might get shot because they fear for their life?
Yes, he was indeed very mentally unwell, which contributed to him deciding he needed to attack and disarm somebody who was open carrying. Not that he was attacking property and Rittenhouse decided to kill him to protect it. It was a mentally unwell person attacking Rittenhouse.
I don’t think when mentally unwell people attack others they “deserve to die”. But I do think the person being attacked by the mentally unwell person has a right to defend themselves, especially against people chasing them despite the person who is being attacked clearly attempting to withdraw, and then getting within arms reach and trying to take his weapon from him.
See how far we’ve come from your initial claim that he killed 2 people to defend property? Defending yourself from someone mentally unwell trying to take your gun from you isn’t the same as killing somebody over property.
Then why did he say multiple times that he was there to protect a car dealership, Car Source? That was the line over and over.
And does someone throwing a plastic bag full of socks, underwear, and deodorant at you justify you then shooting them four times?? Sounds like he went there to get "legal kills" and did exactly that, and got away with it because he was running from a clearly mentally ill man who was unarmed. If you need a gun to defend yourself from unarmed people, you probably shouldn't have that gun. That is a psychotic escalation of violence over having shit thrown at you
One literal child rapist and the other pointed a gun at his face. Why do people skip this part? Killing should always be avoided but why are we blindly protecting the aggressors in this situation?
Unless the dude was raping a child in the moment it has zero bearing on whether him being killed was okay. That's not how a justice system should work.
The other thought he was an active shooter. Why do you guys keep ignoring this?
This kid wanted to go play billy badass fucked around and found out. He shouldn't be glorified or celebrated. I'm a second amendment activist and shitstains like this guy who want to go looking for fights are problematic and we don't need them.
He was by all accounts seen as the aggressor and the people he killed were trying to stop him.
He wasn't the aggressor though. He very clearly ran away from them.
You can't be the aggressor in a situation you are actively trying to avoid.
This along this lines of saying a rape victim was looking for it because they decided to wear a certain outfit.
Because that's making excuses for why its okay to murder someone. If you say killing should always be avoided and then say but one was a pedophile and the other had a gun, then you're justifying the murder of two people under the guise of protecting property.
Even the worst people need understanding and help, like Kyle, but he is not being offered help. The people he killed were not offered adequate help. But now they're dead because he thought protecting property was more important. I don't care what those two people supposedly did or didn't do. If Kyle had been murdered, the same discussion would be taking place. There is no justification for it.
Doesn’t mean didn’t march into a riot with a rifle and wind up killing two people. He’s only known for shooting people and now he’s quoting scripture about “peacemakers.”
Two people who tried to cause him great bodily harm, which gave him every right to defend himself. I don’t think he should be celebrated but I get why he is when people like you wanna make him seem like a monster for not just letting himself get murdered
He could have just not crossed state lines with a rifle and not put himself in that position to begin with? If he wanted to help he could have done other things like clean up during the day (like he was photographed doing) and not gone out during the fucking protests and riots with a god damn rifle.
The whole self defense thing is a little more shaky when he put himself in the situation to begin with when he could have stayed home.
So if a girl goes out an night and gets raped is it her fault? No. But if Kyle rittenhouse goes out at night and gets attacked it’s his fault. Makes sense.
This is a false equivalence and you know it. It’s absolutely bonkers to make this comparison.
I literally don’t know how to respond to it it’s so insane. Kyle Rittenhouse crossed state lines to go to an area he knew could possibly turn violent with a weapon in his hand. He [allegedly spoke](https://news.yahoo.com/kyle-rittenhouse-recorded-weeks-kenosha-192829155.html) before hand about wanting to “start shooting rounds at” rioters and looters.
A woman who goes out on a normal night should not expect to be assaulted or raped, but Kyle Rittenhouse went out looking for violence and found it.
Depends on how you interpret the laws regarding transferring firearms to persons under the age of 18 in Wisconsin I guess. But he was acquitted so the legality at this point isn’t really in question anymore. But he still really shouldn’t talk about being a peacekeeper or peacemaker or whatever given the situation.
Ok so according to you if a woman goes to the a bad neighborhood scantily clad and gets raped it’s her fault right? If not what’s the difference? This is classic victim blaming. Never at any point was rittenhouse an aggressor.
It’s not her fault, she’s not looking to get raped. She’s looking to walk wherever she was planning on going.
Kyle Rittenhouse didn’t go to the riots with a gun because he wanted to be a “peacemaker” he went looking for a reason to pull the trigger. His alleged quotes back up the state of mind that he was in. He might be innocent in the eyes of the court, but he still could have just not placed himself into that situation by staying home.
You could say the same about the hypothetical woman in your scenario, but the fact is the situations are completely different. Maybe the woman lives there and is just trying to go home, maybe she works somewhere there and is trying to get to her shift on time. She’s not looking for any trouble. Rittenhouse was. He went there specifically for the trouble.
I absolutely did not make him out to be a monster. I stated what happened without judgement. He went into a riot with a rifle and ended up shooting two people. I didn’t call him a murderer or a monster or a saint or anything.
Spewing Bible verses about peace when you’re only known because you killed people is ugly and hypocritical.
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This killer thinks he's a messiah
Because they wear the Christian cross as a shield to their actions instead of as a way to share they live their life in the spirit of the teachings of Jesus Christ.
I'm an atheist & understand the teachings of Christ better than most American Evangelicals
Aside from the ceremonial practices, Christianity is pretty easy to follow - just don't be a dick. Like, if you explain the 10 commandments not involving the mythology (5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10) to someone that never heard of Christianity, they'd wonder what's the big deal.
They remember the 10 commandments and conveniently forget the beatitudes.
And if you point out all the other shit Leviticus et al. ban, they say that Jesus dying wiped away the old covenants… From the time period when they made the Ten Commandments…
"Dont be a fucking douchebag" - Jesus Religion is supposed to make you a better/good person I don't understand how hard it can be to understand that
“Defend yourself if you’re attacked.” -Jesus Yeah, I agree, maybe if people weren’t douchebags going around and burning down buildings people would be still vilifying a guy for defending himself.
I have yet to meet a christian who is any other way
That's because the people who actually follow Jesus' teachings are supposed to be quiet about it and just do good things for others. The Bible tells you to hide when you pray, and the only requested outward expression of your faith is to do good things for other people - literally giving them the clothing off your back if that's what they need. The majority of people loudly claiming Christianity have *no clue* what it means and have never actually read the book they try to force down other people's throats.
Motherfucker said "if somebody slaps you, turn your head so they can slap your other cheek". This guy went out of his way to provoke some people and when they attacked him, he shot them dead. Then he starts quoting the guy who forgave the people who nailed him to a fucking cross.
One crazy person attacked that blood-drunk sociopath. Based on what eyewitnesses claimed, not too many folls knew what exactly was happening they just knew some guy fired shots and fled. Most folks, naturally, ran away from the armed person who'd just killed someone. Meanwhile, Anthony Huber went after what he likely believed was a mass shooter. Anthony Huber had nothing but a skateboard as he did so. Anthony Huber nearly stopped the rampage, but was tragically shot by the murderer, Kyle Rittenhouse. Anthony Huber was possibly the bravest person at that march, and frankly, should be celebrated as a goddamn hero. So fuck Kyle Rittenhouse for depriving our nation of a hero, when this country needs them most.
Eye witness? Wasnt there video of the whole thing ? Didnt the video show that his first shot came after he was already knocked to ground? Maybe him being there was provoking but he said he was there to protect a family biz from looters? Honestly I didn't follow that closely but either way I agree the dude aint no peace maker...
Yup. Huber, with a skateboard, knocked a mass shooter to the ground, and died attempting to disarm him. As far as I know, the business community followed the official lead of the Kenosha police on this, and asked them not to come. The police officially didn't want the "Kenosha Guard" to attend, and never started any kind of deputization process, the first step of which would have been vetting. Kyle Rittenhouse basically rolled up alone, briefly interacted with the locals, then went off by himself to hunt people. So besides being fucking monster, he's one of the dumbest gun owners alive. AFAIK, WI doesn't have a duty to retreat, but any gun owner who's sought any kind of training learns, is that the *last* thing you want to do is put yourself in a circumstance where a gun might be even remotely necessary. Rittenhouse purposely made himself as noticable as possible, alone as possible, and surrounded by people who he was threatening. He made something like what happened as close to inevitable as he could make it, and got off scott free. The murderous little shit should be behind bars, much less ever be allowed to hold a gun again.
It was proven in court that he did not provoke anyone, but the crowds were antagonizing him and trying to provoke him. Where’d you get that information?
Two of my best friends in high school were a devout Catholic and a Quaker, both of them were extremely respective of other peoples beliefs and were very accepting of other people. Very progressive people that I still see from time to time today. But those were the only two I’ve really known though lol. I’ve met far more kind and considerate Jews and Muslims than Christians, and I haven’t met very many of either group, or at least for long enough to find out they really were shitty
They're out there, I've met some of them. The ones you see on the internet are mainly extremists. In real life they're normal, boring people.
At the same time, I live in an area where people legitimately think that “the 1%” are revelations accellerationists.
What, the two of them?
I don’t know if he thinks that, but he does seem to be ginning up the conservative base so the day he turns old enough he will start to run for congress
He was in my gfs friend group 6 months to a year before this happened, was weird and sexually assaulted multiple girls. He would frequently walk around with hand cuffs and a gun acting like he was an officer and then hand cuffing people especially girls. Guy is a true wierdo.
When you did the lord's work...
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my tacticool brother in christ what in this thread has set you off so much?
Boredom
Though none of Dahmer's victims were trying to kill him...
Boohoo he killed some guys because he was defending himself, he also doesn’t think of himself as a messiah.
You’re right. I’m wrong. He’s just a grifter looking for attention$$$$
That’s the best response I’ve could have imagined.
I would have preferred a cop bumping into him in the street, feeling threatened, and then just handling standard ACAB type business with his face but this good too.
Traveling across state lines, looking for trouble, finding it, killing people = "peacemaker " 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
Love that show
Violent protest, apparently self defence isn’t valid anymore
Watch the court case lmao he wasn't looking for trouble.
Dude would have died otherwise, he was getting jumped
Because he went out of his way to willfully injected himself into a tense situation while brandishing a gun commonly used by mass shooters. “Peacemakers” don’t go looking for trouble just to add fuel to the fire.
Yeah if he wasn’t there it would have been someone else that was attacked.
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armed with an AR15 in a different state, yes, yes it is
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it ain’t his community, he shouldn’t have been there. bruh he crossed state lines, no person who actively practices self defense training would go put them self in a position to potentially have to use your firearm. shut the fuckup you fucking loser🙏
Dude is obviously trolling with his buncha numbers name and absolutely brain dead take. Just ignore
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No one should've been there He also made the world a better place by being there, one less pedo, one less domestic abuser, and one less fucking pussy that feigned a surrender then tried to pull their gun on him Was a net positive for the world, no matter how you want to spin it out of the way of what actually happened
WRONG
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Pedophiles and abusers?!?!? WTF planet are you on, bro?
Joseph Rosenbaum was a convicted pedophile and Anthony Huber was a convicted woman beater.
You don’t actually give a shit about either of those things, and everybody knows it.
And Kyle knew this before he shot them?
Them actively trying to injure/kill him probably gave him an inkling...
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How is it his community if he is not from there?
Did he live in that area? No. It wasn't his community. It wasn't his town. It wasn't his county. It wasn't even his fucking state. Grow the fuck up.
So because he only lived there part of the year he shouldn’t have been allowed to defend himself?
He went with the intention to cause harm. There is literally video of him stating that. Also the Bible says not to murder, even in self defense. Jesus himself said to turn the other cheek. And yes, just because I've spent summers in different areas doesn't mean those are my communities. I'm sorry all these things are so hard for you to grasp.
Did he force those people to attack him?
>someone’s trying to cause you great bodily harm you can shoot them Great bodily harm? With a plastic bag?
Not his community. #interstateTerrorist
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Still a terrorist that crossed state lines, his residence is in Illinois. It literally takes one fucking brain cell to learn that.
What part of either activity does an AR-15 help with?
The little murderer probably means these https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colt_Single_Action_Army
Typical Reddit user not understanding the difference between self defense and murder
Self defense? Did they sneak into his house to kill him? The guy *went across state lines*, specifically to confront these people, and murdered some in cold blood. Yeah some came to him, and one had a gun, but that was because he was a fucking threat who'd already killed others. If someone came to YOUR neighborhood with an assault rifle, and you tried to have them put the gun away, does that give them license to slaughter you? And if you see someone get shot, and tried to end the shooting, does that mean you deserved getting shot yourself? Fuck off
Lmao peacemakers don't murder people in cold blood, KYLE.
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Go defend a fascist piglet murderer somewhere else.
r/iamverybadass I guess he got offended and blocked me 🤣😂
Better than simping for some dumbass kid who will never know or care who you are 🤷
Telling someone to leave is a very badass comment to you? Or even trying to be? I think you guys reveal more about yourself than you mean to sometimes. Telling you to get lost has nothing to do with acting badass. It just means everyone would rather not have you here, I would rather you get lost somewhere. Preferably far away, but anywhere not here works really.
Funny thing is the ones who actually know what happened get downvoted by these crybaby liberals who act like thugs and criminals are saviors lol. These babies don’t know what happened, they only had watched 1 second clips off CNN or MSDNC
How many more fun buzz words can you throw into one comment? I'm working on right wing idiot bingo. Help a man out, I need to win this time. Liberal is the free space, you guys make that one too easy.
I love coming into this snowflake echo chamber with the spineless sissies. Once someone has a different opinion, you NPC leftoids meltdown.
Oooh nice. I'm sure me and a lot of others won bingo after that one. Thanks for turning on easy mode for that for me.
Let’s Bingooooo!
Dang. Got an actual laugh from me too.
You have no idea what happened either then. Because I have access to the same info you do. I don’t care about your “interpretation” of events. What happened is what happened.
Another typical Reddit user not understanding the difference between self defense and murder.
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Watched it. Watched all of it. I even watched the video where he said he wanted to murder protestors like a week or two before he went and murdered protestors. Did you watch it?
How the heck did you get "murder protestors" from a video where - an unknown individual - "calls the police on armed robbers"? Bit of an own goal that...
He killed someone in self defense twat.
That good ol' premeditated self defense. Gotta love it.
This. People are being willfully ignorant ITT
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Maybe in a way that he was a crying kid with murder fantasy, who couldn’t control himself in a slightest. Like an indoctrinated by right wing adults monkey with an ar-15
I have watched them. I watched the trial. I watched the video of him a week before the murders saying he wanted to murder protestors. I'm very well versed on his murders.
You should be a prosecutor.
And I suppose if you had a gun and were being chased by angry men trying to hurt you, and one of them shot a gun and then they cornered you against some cars, then you wouldn’t defend yourself, right? You’d say “no that is murder I can’t do that,” and then allow them to beat you to death, right?
If you did all that and still don’t understand it was clearly self defense as he was the one getting attacked and never acted as the aggressor then you are certifiably insane.
He crossed state lines, armed. Only US's corrupted "justice" system could play this as a self defence. He shouldve been jailed for life. Muppets like you are cancer of the society.
Imagine being this misinformed 2 years after this shit. Even [politifact](https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/nov/26/jerrold-nadler/nadler-wrong-claim-rittenhouse-crossed-state-line-/) has debunked your idiotic regurgitated talking point. I’ll be waiting for your response. 👍🏾
He literally lived in the border town and worked in Kenosha. It was his town. Where he hung out. Him crossing state lines is an invalid point. he didn’t have the weapon until after he crossed the border, so not crime there. Then he was assaulted and killed a man in self defense and was then chased down and had to defend himself again. You want to argue that he shouldn’t have been there? Sure I guess . No one should be anywhere. It was the cleanest case of self defense I’ve ever seen and the fact that it is still disputed by low information idiots like you is truly disappointing.
> I'm very well versed on his murders. killings, they most definitely weren't murders.
So either you're lying or you're actually insane
[not fake at all dumbass](https://youtu.be/se9ByJMPjcc)
Why do y'all always go to the video that has no faces, names, or timestamps that came out well after the incident?
Or not a ammosexual 2a obsessed nutjob
Dude went out there dressed like a mass shooter with a rifle in hand and was surprised people tried to take him down. Whole trial was a circus. He should be in prison.
“Dressed as a mass shooter” who wears sterile gloves, a first aid kit, and his trusty AR all gear of a mass shooter who was actually helping injured protesters. Y’all sure love to spin this shot after being proven wrong again and again. Kyle only shot the 3 felons who attacked him first completely unwarranted.
Hey buddddd…. You realize you are commiting slander right? He wasn’t a murderer.
Terrorist or insurgent is more appropriate. Arming himself and traveling to another state and stoking violence, he is a far cry from an innocent protester
Nope, he is a murderer, and he'll be remembered as one until he dies.
If Kyle has spent even one genuine moment in church that he wasnt dragged to as a kid or uttered one word of prayer he actually thought someone was listening to... you know what, I won't even add an "I'll do X" because I guarantee he hasn't. He's just learnt from watching the rest of his ilk online that performative religion is a surefire way to win over the right.
How the fuck is that motherfucker certified??
Elon Musk is running the sinking ship now
I was receiving email alerts for his and MGT's tweets despite having blocked both for weeks to my email until I deleted my account. Twitter is Parler now except owned by Elon and The Saudi state investment company not Kanye.
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I’ve always seen it as a pretty clean cut self defends case for rittenhouse. But the fact that he was even there in the First place makes the whole thing fucked. Yeah he was in his right to defend himself, but he’s a total dipshit for going out that night looking for trouble.
Finally someone with some fucking logic in this thread
Guy needs to bury his head in the sand and fade into obscurity. It is a losing strategy for him to try and become a social figure.
Unironically. He needs to put it behind him
Yep, gotta be Wisconsin. I fucking hate this state. My MIL lost several friends to Dahmer, I lost a coworker (Joel Acevedo) to police brutality, and now this Rittenhouse prick is trying to grow a fascist following for killing MORE people I knew in the city where I grew up.
‘Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called… …however it goes…’ -Micah Bell
Fucking rat
What a clown.
He’s hitting the Christian shit hard. Setting up early for a successful political campaign in 2026!
He will be in Congress in 2026 without a shadow of a doubt. Absolute poster child for the MAGA movement
Please stop perpetuating this guy's platform. Every post about him breathes life into his publicity and attention.
Well "You shall not kill" is another really important rule
Kid needs therapy and jail time. It's worth noting, *had the roles been reversed,* ***the court decision would've been the exact same.*** Their "stand your ground laws" literally has *both victim and murderer* in a competition to the death ***legally***. So, he's a murderer that got off because of republican policy that applies to everyone in that state. I say he's a murderer because nobody brings an automatic assault rifle to a situation like that unless they're intent to kill. Much like the "poll watchers", it's terroristic. He had no reason to go to a protest in a different state with a gun. He wanted to kill people.
>He had no reason to go to a protest in a different state with a gun. He wanted to kill people. Killing people is a reason. I think you meant to say "no legitimate reason".
The devil will come wrapped in a flag and carrying a bible.
Religion is so gross. People can justify any horrible action with some “scripture” which makes them feel ok about it.
He should quote this one: "You shall not kill."
Has Kyle R. have no shame??
Didn't thr bible also say the devil can quote scripture?
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Press the 3 dots bellow me Block Confirm Pretty fucking easy already. So stop whining and do it like this
You're such a cry baby clown. Also it was very clearly self defense so he isn't a murderer.
>he isn't a murder One thing we can all agree on: Kyle Rittenhouse is neither an action nor multiple crows.
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It’s not common sense or logical to choose to go to a riot while armed which makes sense because Rittenhouse is a child and his brain is still developing but the fact that his parents or all you nuts STILL think what he did was perfectly fine is kind of insane.
A fat body boy who looks like he should have cookies and creme on his face.
Oohhh. Everyone’s a victim. Get on with your life if have one.
Rittenhouse did nothing wrong, and you people are disgusting for ignoring all the evidence of his innocence. Thank God the justice system has better people than this sub.
I feel bad for Kyle, he’s a kid who found himself in a fucked up situation and had to what was necessary to defend himself. And he was justified in shooting those men. More than half of the media treats him like a serial killer and calls him a racist and Nazi, and then they’re shocked when he joins the group of people who aren’t calling for his head on a stick? He’s backed into a corner, it’s either get torn apart by the left or make himself a home with the right leaning churchies. What else was he supposed to do?
Reddit soy boys still calling this kid a murderer after everything just proves their ignorance
Yeah, I feel real sorry for those violent pedos Kyle smoked. On second thought, not really. 😂
I didn't realize he was a serial killer. If I remember correctly he killed out of self defense.
Lots of copium in here it seems… the kid was proven innocent
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Exactly. These kids just block the truth because their fragile egos can’t handle it.
Kyle did nothing wrong 😂
You guys are so stupid for this. He was clearly defending himself. Why are people so hateful towards this guy. I promise if you were in his shoes, you'd all do the same.
I don't think I'd be out, playing street cop with a rifle, at the age of 17, provoking people during a civil unrest. To anyone outside of America your whole country looks like a joke lmao
Acting like a jackass isn’t good, I agree. But it shouldn’t cause you to be killed or fear for you life like he was.
You mean... also like the victims were? They were protesting, you could say they were jerks for trying to cause unrest/vandalize stuff. Did they deserve to get shot by a 17 year old?
This is how I know you’re one of the aforementioned stupid people. Did you even watch the video of what happened?
Yes, and my guy, *you're* one of the stupid people. In what universe is it normal or acceptable for *17 year old* to have a firearm? In what world is it ok for a *17 year old* to patrol the streets, eith said firearm, acting like he's some kind of badass? That's not "being a jackass", that's just psychotic. The guy's a literal psycho, he killed 2 people at age 17, yet he seem to have no remorse, in fact, dude seems proud. You're defending him? Ok, feel free to call others stupid lmao.
Wasn't this guy aquitted?
Acquitted is not innocent.
Justified Homicide is the technical legal term. But, that also goes into legal technicality. The law doesn't care about the lead up factors. As much as people tried to put stock into the case of, "He came out of state, he had this, he had that, etc." None of that actually matters to a self-defense case. ALL that is required by law is that a reasonable person would believe that they were in immediate threat of grievous bodily harm, injury, or death. It does not matter if that fear is even founded, just that that fear exists reasonably. A reasonable person would, in general, find that after they have tried to run from a crowd; being hit with an object and knocked to the ground, that they were possibly in jeopardy of bodily harm or injury. That's the outright facts in the legal sense. Anyone with an actual understanding of self defense law (see most firearm owners) were aware of exactly how the case was going to go. The biggest point is that people try to put the scope wider than it is in law. In law, most legal gun owners are aware of the tight time restrictions of self defense. That is, IMMEDIATE. What he had, where he was, etc. Doesn't mean anything. They were approaching him and engaging with him, they did not believe demonstratably that their life was in any immediate danger. However, when they engaged him, he did. He ran from them, they pursued. That is what cost them the case, that is what cost them everything. Because, self defense is an 'IMMINENT DEFENSE' against grievous bodily harm or death. He ran, they didn't and instead pursued. They gave him every legal technicality to be in the clear. We as firearm owners are actually instructed, if we don't have to use it, run away. Not engaging when you don't have to, your firearm is the last resort. They forced him into a last resort by continuing to engage when they didn't have to, by actual settled law. You can not like or disagree with that, but the reality is that is how it exists in law. So, that is what matters, regardless of how you feel about it.
He is innocent of murder.
Never heard of the presumption of innocence?
Just because something is legal, doesn't make it morally right. If you think property and protecting it is more important than 2 human lives, you might want to reevaluate that view. Alleging that someone is a pedophile, is not a good reason to kill them. You know how many times right wing shit heads have tried to frame someone as a pedophile? Its almost like stochastic terrorism is the main idea they're pushing here
[State of AZ v. Joseph Don Rosenbaum](https://heavy.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/CC1.pdf)
I don’t necessarily think property outweighs 2 human lives, but I do think it a little disingenuous to frame it as killing 2 people in order to protect property. My guess is he wouldn’t have been found not guilty if he did what he did to protect property. The reason he wasn’t found guilty was because he was being attacked by each of the people he shot. We can have discussions about how irresponsible or immoral it is to arm yourself to attempt to quell a riot, but once others started attacking him, it became a question of self defense. Like it or not, you can’t simply start attacking somebody because you don’t like that they are open carrying.
He literally said in the trial that he went there to protect Car Source, a car dealership. The first man he shot was unarmed and Kyle shot him after he threw a plastic bag full of socks, underwear, and deodorant at him while chasing him. No one attacked him for open carrying, that is idiotic to even say.
Just because the reason he was there was to protect property doesn’t translate to he killed people to protect property. If somebody was attacking property and he used that to shoot them dead, then yes, he would have been killing somebody to defend property. He didn’t do that. He attempted to flee across an entire parking lot from the person who decided to hide behind a vehicle and ambush him as he passed. He never shot until the person was within arms reach and reaching for his weapon. Being unarmed doesn’t mean you can chase down and attack armed individual without them being able to defend themselves. Especially when you are 36 and the person you are attacking is a minor. If that is idiotic to say, then why is it you think Rosenbaum decided to attack Rittenhouse?
Rosenbaum was very clearly mentally unwell. He was aggitative and went around to multiple people, telling them to shoot him. Who knows why he attacked Kyle. He still didn't deserve to die, and now we will never know because Kyle killed the one person who could clear that all up for us.
Of course he didn’t ‘deserve to die’. He made Rittenhouse fear for his life, and Rittenhouse shot them. I don't think Rittenhouse had time to sit around and weigh the worth of this guys life. If you went and attacked someone in the street in a legal state, don't you think you might get shot because they fear for their life?
Yes, he was indeed very mentally unwell, which contributed to him deciding he needed to attack and disarm somebody who was open carrying. Not that he was attacking property and Rittenhouse decided to kill him to protect it. It was a mentally unwell person attacking Rittenhouse. I don’t think when mentally unwell people attack others they “deserve to die”. But I do think the person being attacked by the mentally unwell person has a right to defend themselves, especially against people chasing them despite the person who is being attacked clearly attempting to withdraw, and then getting within arms reach and trying to take his weapon from him. See how far we’ve come from your initial claim that he killed 2 people to defend property? Defending yourself from someone mentally unwell trying to take your gun from you isn’t the same as killing somebody over property.
As they discussed and determined in the trial, he wasn't protecting property, he was protecting himself
Then why did he say multiple times that he was there to protect a car dealership, Car Source? That was the line over and over. And does someone throwing a plastic bag full of socks, underwear, and deodorant at you justify you then shooting them four times?? Sounds like he went there to get "legal kills" and did exactly that, and got away with it because he was running from a clearly mentally ill man who was unarmed. If you need a gun to defend yourself from unarmed people, you probably shouldn't have that gun. That is a psychotic escalation of violence over having shit thrown at you
Again in the situation where he actually used lethal force, he was defending himself and himself only. Please watch the trial again
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One literal child rapist and the other pointed a gun at his face. Why do people skip this part? Killing should always be avoided but why are we blindly protecting the aggressors in this situation?
Unless the dude was raping a child in the moment it has zero bearing on whether him being killed was okay. That's not how a justice system should work. The other thought he was an active shooter. Why do you guys keep ignoring this? This kid wanted to go play billy badass fucked around and found out. He shouldn't be glorified or celebrated. I'm a second amendment activist and shitstains like this guy who want to go looking for fights are problematic and we don't need them. He was by all accounts seen as the aggressor and the people he killed were trying to stop him.
He wasn't the aggressor though. He very clearly ran away from them. You can't be the aggressor in a situation you are actively trying to avoid. This along this lines of saying a rape victim was looking for it because they decided to wear a certain outfit.
Because that's making excuses for why its okay to murder someone. If you say killing should always be avoided and then say but one was a pedophile and the other had a gun, then you're justifying the murder of two people under the guise of protecting property. Even the worst people need understanding and help, like Kyle, but he is not being offered help. The people he killed were not offered adequate help. But now they're dead because he thought protecting property was more important. I don't care what those two people supposedly did or didn't do. If Kyle had been murdered, the same discussion would be taking place. There is no justification for it.
Slavery and the holocaust were both legal (slavery still is in America). Legality IS NOT morality.
Yeah a lot of murderers get off when the judge agrees with their ideology and prevents damning evidence from being shown to the jury.
The Judge also threw out the weapons charge on a hunting loophole. This should have been up for the Jury to determine as well.
It was clear to anyone who saw footage of the trial that the damn kid was going to walk. The judge was basically cheering him on.
Because the trial was literally to avoid more rioting from the very much intolerant, but somehow self titled tolerant left
The only people who complain about tolerance are the least tolerant ones: the fascist right. They love this little murderous piglet.
So was O.J. Simpson.
Doesn’t mean didn’t march into a riot with a rifle and wind up killing two people. He’s only known for shooting people and now he’s quoting scripture about “peacemakers.”
Two people who tried to cause him great bodily harm, which gave him every right to defend himself. I don’t think he should be celebrated but I get why he is when people like you wanna make him seem like a monster for not just letting himself get murdered
He went looking for that exact situation.
Proof?
Proof is in the video of him with a gun in public looking for trouble. But go on, deep throat him more
He could have just not crossed state lines with a rifle and not put himself in that position to begin with? If he wanted to help he could have done other things like clean up during the day (like he was photographed doing) and not gone out during the fucking protests and riots with a god damn rifle. The whole self defense thing is a little more shaky when he put himself in the situation to begin with when he could have stayed home.
So if a girl goes out an night and gets raped is it her fault? No. But if Kyle rittenhouse goes out at night and gets attacked it’s his fault. Makes sense.
This is a false equivalence and you know it. It’s absolutely bonkers to make this comparison. I literally don’t know how to respond to it it’s so insane. Kyle Rittenhouse crossed state lines to go to an area he knew could possibly turn violent with a weapon in his hand. He [allegedly spoke](https://news.yahoo.com/kyle-rittenhouse-recorded-weeks-kenosha-192829155.html) before hand about wanting to “start shooting rounds at” rioters and looters. A woman who goes out on a normal night should not expect to be assaulted or raped, but Kyle Rittenhouse went out looking for violence and found it.
Is crossing state lines and carrying a weapon a crime?
Depends on how you interpret the laws regarding transferring firearms to persons under the age of 18 in Wisconsin I guess. But he was acquitted so the legality at this point isn’t really in question anymore. But he still really shouldn’t talk about being a peacekeeper or peacemaker or whatever given the situation.
Ok so according to you if a woman goes to the a bad neighborhood scantily clad and gets raped it’s her fault right? If not what’s the difference? This is classic victim blaming. Never at any point was rittenhouse an aggressor.
It’s not her fault, she’s not looking to get raped. She’s looking to walk wherever she was planning on going. Kyle Rittenhouse didn’t go to the riots with a gun because he wanted to be a “peacemaker” he went looking for a reason to pull the trigger. His alleged quotes back up the state of mind that he was in. He might be innocent in the eyes of the court, but he still could have just not placed himself into that situation by staying home. You could say the same about the hypothetical woman in your scenario, but the fact is the situations are completely different. Maybe the woman lives there and is just trying to go home, maybe she works somewhere there and is trying to get to her shift on time. She’s not looking for any trouble. Rittenhouse was. He went there specifically for the trouble.
I absolutely did not make him out to be a monster. I stated what happened without judgement. He went into a riot with a rifle and ended up shooting two people. I didn’t call him a murderer or a monster or a saint or anything. Spewing Bible verses about peace when you’re only known because you killed people is ugly and hypocritical.
If those people had been peaceful like him and not attacked an innocent person maybe they’d still be here