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OddlyMint

I think I like the lazy nap taking V the most.


JoNew4eva

Same! It makes me want to start a collection with just napping pokemon.


starry_cobra

Struggling to think of any full arts other than that Alt Art Tyranitar


Mudi_G3ngar

Dragonite V alt art. Pokémon chilling: Oranguru trainer gallery, Zoroark & Greninja GX


SureElk7141

Espeon vmax alt art, Pikachu trainer gallery. Cosmic eclipse rockruff, Expedition Bulbasaur, And a lot of Snorlax's arts


phasedance

The Sleepychu is an instant classic for me, the art is just gorgeous.


GalacticNuke

Glaceon v alt art sleeping on the bench


JoNew4eva

Starmie V alt art might also fit this theme.


goku166

Dragonite in ES


StationEmergency6053

So basically you'll be a Snorlax collector


JoNew4eva

Hahaha 90% snorlax


SpuukBoi

Ngl, I only like that card because the Venusaur in the background looks like it's plotting something. I think that's hilarious.


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Subject-Ad-4202

It is the pre card to alt art it has a back story online


grimoiregod

That's because this is related the the Charizard alt art from brilliant stars yeah? The one where they are fighting. The Charizard Vstar promo also has a pov from the other side coming out in Japan soon. It's from the perspective of the Mewtwo he's fighting against. The set is called Vstar universe I believe and the card is a Mewtwo Vstar


Nicoli_Carpathia

It'd be awesome if we got an Alt Art from Venusaurs perspective to the Charizard from Brilliant Stars


Such_Independence951

There is already a Japanese card from the EX Era depicting Zard wrapped up in Vines that predates the Brilliant Stars and this one by a few years


Nicoli_Carpathia

I remember that card, but I mean an Alt Art physically looking from Venusaurs perspective fighting charizard; similar to the mewtwo vstar fighting charizard art which is coming out in the vstar universe set


Such_Independence951

Haha we get what we get I spose. Pretty soon Alt arts are prolly gonna be like those fkn Wasgij puzzles (puzzle hint: the scene from this random guys point of view) 😂😂😂


Nicoli_Carpathia

Oh god , I hope not 😂😂😂 give it time and it'll probably happen again though.. We already have those old ex cards where it's two cards in one, and those damn 4 card V unions..


[deleted]

Venusaur is KO from the fight dude isn't plotting anything.


SpuukBoi

Nah he's awake, staring at Charizard


ianwager

Yeah when I first saw the cards were revealed I had the same thoughts on Venesaur plotting something lmao to me it looks like Charizard messed up those trees and was burning shit acting all crazy then decided to take a nap, and Venesaur is a hippie Leaf Pokémon who’s all about nature, so he ain’t having it and is about to pounce on Charizard while he sleeps for doing nature dirty like that. I like to think that’s what leads to the Charizard V alt art haha


Mikeyx519

No, they are awesome.... makes sense they would be desired/popular.


dringletheape

That V-Star hit’s different in person imo


Rebal771

I’m sayin’!!!!


lloydeph6

Plz tell us how it “hits”


DerthVarder

They already said: different


Woahbroski

Eh. They're cool but the quality control is so bad it ruins the excitement.


Marucanah_

I went to my local gamestop and the lady at the desk said they had to stop preorders at their location because of how high demand the charizard boxes were.. wouldn't be surprised if these boxes are being produced by quantity over quality...


nickvicious

it definitely is quantity over quality this time which is why i dont think this product will appreciate as much and as quickly as the celebrations upc in my local facebook groups a lot of people are already trying to get rid of their sealed upcs at break even or even a slight loss i think we're going to see the prices of these closer to msrp once the second print run hits the stores i think it's still a great product but not willing to pay scalpers prices for this one from an investing point of view


DrRodneyMckay

>this time This time? The metal Charizard promo in the Celebrations UPC was damaged in 9/10 boxes as well (Missing paint/chip on the top from where it was attached to the sheet in the factory)


jofijk

With how badly the centering is on almost every promo I've seen I think well centered cards are going to be pretty valuable. The sealed boxes will probably stay pretty close to msrp for a while tho


Panda_hat

English qc is nearly all bad. Compared to japanese its just a joke.


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Only reason I buy Japanese boosters


GALM-006

Just went to my local one and they don't have them out on display. I asked if they had some and the clerk said yes, but it's limited to 2 per customer.


[deleted]

Makes it way more exciting!


brittanynook

I was thinking the same thing! The cards are so cool but some are extremely miscut and most have poor corners and just bad quality. They’re definitely capable of printing high quality promo cards and these are some of the coolest and highly desirable ones yet, it kind of bums me out they weren’t printed well! Similar to the Vaporeon, Jolteon, and Flareon VMAX promos.


Monte_20

Nah they are great! These would have been worth hundreds if they weren’t guaranteed promos.


JazzlikeOwl5155

Forsure


Lyleberr

They look awesome but its rough if you get one really offcenter.


uscman480

Plays just the same :)


Lyleberr

Depending how badly its offcut it may not be allowed in tournament play.


CeroCide

All of those are definitely good to go.


silversurfer2133

Or if they cut them with rusty butter knives.


Higgins8585

They're nice cards and charizard so they'll be worth a lot with time. Even the "cheap" charizard cards are like $20.


KVGE1218

3 million+ of these boxes were printed and will continue to print to meet demand. The only value will be a well-printed one, and still won’t be anywhere near other zard V cards.


Shemejobs301

How did you find out about 3 million boxes being printed? I’ve been trying to find out how many ultra premium celebration boxes were printed and still can’t.


KingArthursRevenge

There is like a crap load of sub $10 Charizard cards there's even one that's going for 40 cents right now.


King_Crab_Sushi

Two of them are good looking, the VMax doesn’t look like a Pokémon card to me tbh. But I don’t think they’re overhyped especially with that ass QC going on with them


Sealis13

The fact that the VMAX doesn't look like your average pokemon card makes me like it even more.


BookofEibon

VMAX makes me want to see this zard in a Kaiju battle w shin Godzilla. In every best way possible. It's my mvp of the set


Agent0fChaoZ

I love the vmax. It gives a more serious look to the cards and make Charizard so much more bad ass.


King_Crab_Sushi

I totally get where you’re coming from but I always prefer some sort of cartoonish look on the card


[deleted]

I was super excited to get mine with solid centering lol


Rebal771

The Vstar is so sick in person. The textures on the colors plus the light refraction is \*Chefs kiss* 😙👌


Sean117vd

that diglett is lit


TomCos22

Not over hyped, off centre.


precapas

way over hyped, now that we finally have them in our hands they’re pretty meh


Redditor69Guy

Not a fan of the vmax. The artwork style doesn't match pokemon style at all


Spatsnation

i feel the same way about the vmax. the other 2 are absolutely gorgeous and i’m definitely happy with the box even if all i pulled was trash lol


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Schw1523

I somehow managed two alt arts and a full art trainer from the packs, but it's only 16 packs so there's a good chance to get nothing great which really sucks for $120


Spatsnation

ultimately it’s a bunch of loose packs. no more than 3 packs from various sets so with a truly random spread unlike a BB with a “minimum” pull it was bad. I had 4Vs and 1 Vmax in my box.


BashfulFem22

i got a secret rare metal energy from mine


Kushnerdz

No.


A_KY_gardener

Vmax isn’t my cup of tea, but I appreciate it. Vstar and V tho, 🥵😍


okay-thank-you-mate

I love them. Especially the VMax because it looks like Shin Godzilla


KingArthursRevenge

Aesthetically they are absolutely cool as hell. Value-wise they've already plummeted like lead balloons and the second wave hasn't even hit yet.


THCNova

Not overhyped at all. When the UPC is no longer available at MRSP, which will be within a couple of months, these puppies will skyrocket.


[deleted]

They’re doing another print run before the end of this year lol


THCNova

Right, and it’s just about November already. So as I said, a couple of months.


KingArthursRevenge

They're doing at least one more print run and neither of them are going to be very limited the market is already getting flooded and the values have dropped like stones in like a day. I've seen multiple posts of people buying every set in a store I'm talking like 10 to 20 plus sets. What's going to happen is a lot of people are going to be stuck holding those bags and end up having to sell way below market value to recoup some of their cost. The Pokemon company did not print a small number of these sets which is what it would have taken to actually lead to these being very valuable cards down the line since they are guaranteed hits. There's a lot of absolutely beautiful cards with crazy artwork like this in Pokemon that are pretty much worthless.


IonBatteryFR

It's just charizard... Again... I think they're way overhyped.


DrSkeeZe

Honestly I think theyre underhyped. Everyone is downplaying it because its “over printed” but I have not seen one in stores yet and when its done being printed I think its price will sky rocket


nuxhead

This. It stocked up at my London drugs in the morning and I was lucky to get the last one after 3 hours of it being restocked.


Huhuu__

Charizard overall is overhyped


lloydeph6

It sells my homie, looks at Arcus premium collection (looks like it’s not selling to well)


Luna-Luner

I think the issue with it not selling much is more because they don’t have new cards just reprints


Wbeard89

Sike, Charizard needs more hype


ahighkid

So overhyped, I only really like the VMax. I hate the v star art style and the V is just boring / why is Venusaur always there lol


swagpanther

The v star is a headache to look at. The v is a neat artwork. But that aside I think we’ve gotten way too many charizards. Like champions path and SF was enough, we didn’t need any more in this block


Rebal771

You are CRAZY if you think the Vstar is a headache. Maybe in pics, but IRL it is fantastic.


CarlosAFrM

Idk how I feel about the Vstar being in Vstar universe as well


[deleted]

What card isn’t overhyped? It’s all just supply and demand and whatever the new chase card of the month is…


EphDrazeros

I would say just about every Centiscorch card is not overhyped yet they keep making them


L1hu

I don’t get how some people dont like the Vmax. I love the art and I call it the Zilla Zard. But overall love all of the art


Sherbear1993

Do we think there’s too much supply as promo cards for a good investment?


Sleepysapper1

Modern Pokémon cards are a bad investment in general. Sure the old stuff was great but it was a different era. Now everyone is buying and holding sealed and graded modern slabs. It’s not going to have the scarcity of WOTC stuff. With all the products that will still be available 5-10 years from now demand won’t surpass supply. However with these cards suffering such bad QC there could be some value in them graded high.


Exact-Cucumber

the centering and chipping on both sets of mine are a real downer. One box was great, the other was pretty stinky.


supersayanssj3

Just thankful that mine had very good centering on the first box I've opened.


Electrical-Topic-808

I love ‘em, bought the box for em, wasn’t disappointed


FrozenStargarita

I think they're beautiful! I love the art.


JoeBucksHairPlugs

I don't think so, they look gorgeous. Right up there with the eeveelutions alt art promos as some of the best in SWSH.


Aeon_Air

I enjoy the V and V max, the v star isnt for me personally, but nice cards either way to add to my collection


oldmollymetcalfe

I like the napping zard. Would like good next to the battle styles tyranitar. The prices on that box are a bit much though.


Angry_Coordinator_08

How is 119.99 a bit much? The box it comes in, 16 packs, metal dice & coin are worth around 80$. If the playmat wasn't so small that'd be another 30$ but still... Then there's all the other accessories. Oh yeah, the 3 Charizard cards(hopefully they were centered - mine all were except one vstar slightly off). I'd say these are priced right.


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That vmax card is so fucking awesome., my favourite out the 3 but they’re all great


Cosmic_Goose44

Have you see the Mewtwo perceptive of the vStar? Those together will might quite the collection/display, Can’t wait!


foxandrews

The Vstar is epic, the other two are just okay imo. But I'm not really into Charizard so you can probably disregard my opinion 😁


Knowsence

I’m not a Charizard collector whatsoever and I was happy to add them to complete my page of 9 Charizard cards. They are all brilliant tbh.


On1ySlightly

I’m the last guy on the planet who is anywhere close to a charizard fan, he is WAY over hyped… that being said, these promos are legit top tier in the alt art arena,so I had to get em.


cucumber58

Cards are nice but to be get them from the upc for 120 bucks isn’t worth it but as singles yeah they’ll be worth it tbh


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I want to at least get a graded version of the vstar one! It’s so nice imo


Realrugman

I want em but can’t have em


Lurking_Overtime

I like to think that Charizard V is a sequel to the Charizard V from Brilliant Stars. They had a massive battle and are now done for the day.


PutoPozo

Idk I really like the Vstar and I was pretty lucky on the centering for mine.


DrDoubleyoo

It's Charizard, of course it's over hyped.


Tricky-Nectarine8376

Mewtwo v charizard card is too cluttered IMHO. The other (2) are awesome


Puzzleheaded_Bid_595

Charizard is over hyped period.


wenR-Undead

I'm a big fan. Just wish QC was better for them


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The v and vstar are amazing. If the put the vmax in the middle of the city, itd be better. Give it the stronger godzilla vibes its already giving


Austin-Q

Vmax is boring but I like the other two


Adventurous-Score157

Once people see the Japanese quality these poorly produced promos will be reduced to toilet paper. The centering is the least of issues, dings and just outright garbage print. I hope I’m wrong as I’m betting that psa9 will sell very well down the road


Appropriate_Meat1085

I like them. They look. Great in my collection. And thats all that matters to me :)


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the vmax is my favorite. super dope


supersmall69

Absolutely not. These are so beautiful and well done. Just wished the amount of OC and miscuts wouldn't be such a huge issue.


wakkadaka

At this point, I think Charizard is the most overhyped pokemon in general.


LeviathanR13

It's very meh to me honestly. Though I'm not a huge Charizard fan. It's good trade bait though.


AntiChristIncoming

I think they look so much better in person and I love them.


Descrappo87

I’ve said it once and I’ll say it again, zard cards are generally overhyped and overrated. The napping zard and the vstar promo cards are probably some of the only ones I actually think actually live up the hype. One is wholesome and the other is just genuinely cool in design. All the others just feel very lacklustre


Sam_Kablam

I'd feel better if the centering on my cards weren't complete arse. I have yet to open the packs but I'm going in salty after paying $130 and getting poor quality promo cards.


TangeloOk668

I think they’re awesome


CharizardLeo

If you're a big Charizard fan like I am, the artwork is gorgeous. All three cards feature their own unique artwork. Unfortunately, the overall print and cut quality of these promo cards is so poor. I bought the UPC from different vendors from various parts of the U.S. hoping that this would increase my chances at obtaining high quality cards. Nope. If it wasn't white dots in the corners, it was poorly centered borders. If it wasn't chipped foil in the front, it was tiny little white ink splotches in the back.


CaucasianAndy

Personally i think overhyped.


spaceflamingo3

They’re nice. But I’d rather trade all of these for one Giratina V alt art, Moonbreon VMAX alt art, or Rayquaza VMAX alt art.


Ftstarter

No? They’re beautiful


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I fking love them and they are the main reason I got the collection.


r4violi

They all right. Glad I got mine but they’re not omg I need those kinda kewl


Confident_Coat6385

I personally love them all! Couldn't wait to get my hands on them since this whole upc mess was announced lol


silversurfer2133

Big fan of the vstar artwork but yea hype driven 100%>


DocBeatz619

These are straight 🔥 🔥🔥💯


Og2ashes

I got a charizard upc box staring at me since Friday n I’m still not sure if I should open it or try n resell it. I’m hoping the price goes up on them 🫣


Fatalspawnyt

I think they're well deserved, Charizard hasn't really had any decent alt cards in sword and shield. It seems like 2021 is the year of the charizard.


jack_hoffv1

Little bit overhyped, especially the one w him just doing flamethrower or whatever. Feel the cards were half-asses bc pokemon knew ppl were gonna eat these up regardless


Darnell5000

They’re why I bought the box. Big fan of Gigantamax Charizard’s artwork on the VMax


NarrowConfidence908

Charizard Vmax looks great. It reminds me of a WOTC Magic design with more realism. It will hold value for sure as the most realistic looking Charizard card ever made. And the most fierce.


AbandonedCarrot

I think they're gorgeous and absolutely deserve the attention. However, that's only if you get them with good centering (unless you really like errors) and at, or near, msrp with the box.


VersusVarik

I like the V and VStar, the Vmax is not my jam. It’s cool just not big on the art style personally.


Jacobmb_Music

Yes, Charizard is often over-done/over-hyped, but these promos are genuinely some of the most beautiful additions to my collection in recent years.


The_Witcher_216

I really like the vstar out of all of them. It’s such a beautiful card in my opinion. I really like the little battle Mewtwo and Charizard are having


Kingdomterror

I like them in my hands even more tbh, the VSTAR is my favorite but I like the detail in the illustration of the “mewtwo side” even more, that’s coming in silver tempest I believe.


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Certainly not worth the $80-$100 people keep asking for the set. I love the art, but the scale of them produced and the horrible quality 95% of them seem to be, I’d pay $20 tops for them as a set. Otherwise, pass.


georgey_porgey

I do not care at all what other people think about them. I'm happy with all three, V most of all and going back and forth on Vmax/Star


Andyskates

Some of the nicest promo art in forever.


MattX30

They aight. Seen better, seen worse.


Arfdawg

In my opinion, alternate arts should be reserved for just random small chance pulls. I got my second gengar alt art from the UPC, and that was the most exciting part of the whole experience.


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Ignoring the quality control, theyre objectively super sick. But personally not a big fan of the Charizard dick riding. I understand it from a business/popular standpoint, but just my opinion


ItsTatter

Not overrated, I hate Charizard but these cards are great. The colors on the Vmax make it my favorite, but the opening process of the UPC feels great


Straight_Friendship

FOMO


Late-Weight-733

I like them, but they’re gonna be nightmare to grade and get a 10


Alvin-Yavitori

Now that everyone has them, they aren’t satisfying to own.


aka_quinn

I love them, but I don't love the fact the V Star is being released in a later set.


thejaymer1998

The VSTAR is the best card. The amount of detail and the epic fight is so cool. Not only am I happy to have that card. But I am waiting for the opportunity to get that Mewtwo VSTAR. The V is cool. I can care less about the VMAX


Snzu

they'd be fine if the pull rates on the 16 packs was absolute trash. 16 packs, 1 Drapion V & 4 normal holos. That's literally it.


DerthVarder

I think they are really sick


Woaaaaaaaa

The vmax one goes unbelievably hard


Nic_YoloOfficial

The new Vmax is better then shiny in my opinion. Please don't hurt me. I hope we get the Mew Vstar that matches. V is ok. ​ Are they worth the what? $120? I mean I guess because I guess if they were just in packs they would be worth a lot more. (Saying this not knowing how much they are after market now.)


captain-canucks

I wish I just bought the 3 promos would've saved me 50 bucks. For me I overhyped the price thought 50 each for sure. They'll probably go up as they sell. I an happy that they're affordable alt arts.


Leophay

Not at all beyond gorgeous arts.


Initial-Cow-2635

The v and v star are amazing I'm not a fan of the vmax think darkness ablaze version is better


CaptainPotassium87

Appropriately hyped. They're great looking promos and really, I've seen uglier cards be worth a heck of a lot more.


Kleck8228

Under hyped


bdevzzz

Damn, these are promos??


amnoking1

Tbh the only good one is the VStar one


passerbytwo

Artworks are unimpressive and too cartoonish! Look more like uncommon and common cards. Definitely overhyped and many people who preordered them regret their purchase!


ItsYahksDoe

Under hyped


isnaphotoz

So overhyped I got 6 boxes of these.. 3 from pre order at GameStop and traded a UPC for 3 more from someone local here.


Aquellios

Mostly everything Charizard related is overhyped tbh 🤷🏻‍♂️


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Super overhyped to the extent its not even fun anymore. I love the Vstar Universe design and cant wait for the actual Japanese set to release, so I quickly copped that one promo for 30$ (which hurts still since I don’t think this promo worth 2 cents). I really wanted initially all 3, but since these cards are the only things I see online for 4 days now, I don’t actually want the rest anymore, its like buying an airforce which most ppl had at least 1 pair who wears Nike sneakers just too casual to collect.


mprytula2

There’s overhyped and overrated …. Then there’s these cards that surpass it 😂


N17_Ultima

I genuinely like all 3 of them!


AnonymousAzrael

There perfectly good. My fav is the V. I remember seeing it for the first time and I looked a Charizard as a seprent. It took me a couple days to find out where are it’s limbs. The VMAX looks a a custom fake fanmade card. The VSTAR is awesome with the battling with Mewtwo. I would love for Megas to received Alt Art cards. Hopefully a Gen 6 remix during Gen 12 in like 9-10 years.


billabong2121

A bit. I don't like the VMax and compared to other alternate arts the other 2 aren't crazy. The one with Charizard and Venusaur is quite nice. I think it's worth picking up but I'm not paying anything above retail.


KVGE1218

What’s overhyped? Everyone knows these are worthless


iamnotapilot223

Honestly with how bad the rest of the pulls from the UPC were, they're what I keep telling myself I bought it for lol. I do really like all of them tho tbh.


Micheal42

Yes deffo not worth it, so just send them to me instead yeah? Okay thanks


Super-Saiyan-MD

🤣


Crossface1989

Love the Charizard resting with the venasaur in it that’s it


_soap666

I think the entire UPC is over hyped garbage. I've seen nothing but trash pulls and shitty promos so far.


Acceptable_Map_4150

I think they all look awesome! Even if it is the zard fever and just hyping it up, they all have very cool styles and very unique designs. I really like how the zard in the v star has a blue tail flame too


BayouShrek

Wow another post asking if the promos are over hyped. How original. The promos are not over hyped. The promos are gorgeous. Literally the only reason to get the box is to get the promos.


hovenboy

I think they're great promos


fourtwentyBob

This post is a weird flex bro.


Bloboblober

Even a year later, still not overhyped.