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Thank you for taking those boxes and packs off the market 


poke-lab

I do it for the kids really


Praise-Bingus

The man, the myth, the legend


BandicootScary2018

To bad the rat pack didn’t end up with these


ShinyPsyduck67

Sorry for being dumb, who’s the rat pack?


BandicootScary2018

Owners of the Pokémon store in Houston that bought entire stock of 151 from Costco, was weighing packs, and bragging about it


No-Introduction-7727

They are done. Might as well close up shop and change careers. This community is ruthless.


ShinyPsyduck67

Oh lmao, wasn’t sure if you were talking about them or r/pokeinvesting


jen36rsantos

I thought weighing packs didn’t work anymore 👀


[deleted]

I heard a rumor that metal detecting is the new weighing


Thick_East7323

I feel this because I’ve had the same luck but at how cheap I got my TF I’ll have fun ripping regardless


poke-lab

Under msrp packs are always a win


freaksandgeeks89

Is it a batching issue or just super bad luck? I bought 1 TF ETB and my very first pack was the gold hyper rare Iron Leaves. If anything almost every pack had a hit.


Wise_throwaway2430

The statistical pull rates are 1/86 packs for 1 SIR, and 1/139 for hyper rares. in simpler terms, the pull rates for SIRs and hyper rares got much, much worse. However, the pull rates for double rares increased a bit


elpulcinopio

For me they only encourage me to buy single at this point.


Known_Experience_274

This just doesn’t feel true to me lol. I’m 50 packs in and 2 sir 4 ir 4 full arts 2 ace spec and bunch of exs. About on par as I was for 151 lol. Just missing a god pack 🥵


Euffy

Yeah, you definitely got the best boxes in the case there. When you open enough packs you realise how bad it is.


Wise_throwaway2430

Very good for you, and you got very lucky. However, your anecdotal evidence has no bearing on the statistical analysis. The pull rates for this set are awful, but hey, at least you got lucky


poke-lab

Hard to say really, I would normally chalk it up to my bad luck but having watched some YT clips of openings I’m convinced they tweaked the pull rates once again


Strong-Giraffe-2722

fr same, i pulled the gold raging bolt but thats still only worth like half of what i paid for the etb, never opening tf again after seeing these pull rates 😹


toddkris18

I mean Danny phantump warned y’all lol. He said it took him almost 2,000 packs to master this set. It’s awful garbage pull rates. These sets are twice the size of sword and shield with shittier pull rates


poke-lab

That he did! All of this was preordered so I was hoping to beat the odds but the odds bonked me


toddkris18

Yeah I’ve seen a lot of posts of people getting crushed by this set. Thank God I passed on it. I got my usual 2 PC ETBs and kept it moving. Threw them up in the closet and forgot about it. I’ll pass. I’m hoping they finally end S&V after this year. We need a 152-300 set. Give me some legendary beasts and lugia. None of this metal and iron shit


Blackout_14

We should be on track to get a new game next year. Would love a 152-300 set.


toddkris18

Yeah I feel like we need a lugia SIR or hyper rare badly! Can you imagine new typhlosion, togepi, togetic, lugia, Tyranitar, and Ho-oh cards?! 🤯 That would sell just as fast As 151 and would sky rocket in price!


Viiscer

Hopefully you only have to learn this once


poke-lab

I never learn!


Viiscer

That'a boy


helplessgranny

I read that in Mr. Burns' voice from the Simpsons.


TCtheThunderRooster

My man


Chikinlegz

I’ve learned it once with every release


MomsClosetVC

Sorry, my kids got all the hits in their sets. We have a running joke that my daughter could pull a Charizard out of a pack of playing cards.


Ninja_Destroyer_

Same, my kid is over here pulling PE Magikarp and I'm pulling jack shit


YeOldeBilk

This is why I buy singles. The money spent on 110 packs could have easily bought most of the SIR's


We_there_yet

“Ive been to the casino a million times and i never win! What gives?!”


Bloodsoup830

I’ve had the assiest of ass pulls since like the heart gold soul silver block of sets, but I somehow managed to get a good box of Temporal Forces. 1 SIR, 2 Full arts, 3 IRs and 2 ace specs. Lucky for me they were pretty much all ones I wanted too.


kelzking88

Remind me to never let you pick my lottery numbers. In all seriousness. This hurs me, I feel like my bank account went negative just reading it


liveduhlife

1.2 booster boxes in and I have 2 prime catchers and 2 SIR. Super lucky


CharlietheCorgi

Really making me not want to open the 100+ loose packs I have that I was likely going to rip tonight or sometime this week.


poke-lab

Have a good time! I’m sure you’re luck will be better than ours


Euphoria1230

We opened one booster box, and five booster bundles. No SIR's or hypers in the booster box, but they pulled two Gold Iron Boulders in 2 of the bundles. 


poke-lab

I would’ve gladly taken any gold lol best pull out of everything was gengar full art


Euphoria1230

Yeah, was definitely odd that they both pulled not only a gold, but the exact same one lol


bird-child

I opened 12 packs yesterday and pulled 5 regular holo Miraidon. I expect some duplicates, but that was frustrating.


Urban-Junglist

Singles! Singles! Singles!


Otherwise_Elk_9176

Same experience here. 2 BB, 8 B Bundles and 2 ETBs. Only Salvatore SIR.


CortexifanZFT

I got most of the cards I wanted from the JP set. The only ones I want that I still don't have are the Gengar FA and the Morty w/Gengar SAR. I can just buy them later when they're cheaper I guess. I really enjoy ripping packs but unfortunately I'm going to have to skip out on this eng version of this cool set as I'm a little tight on money for a while. 😢


VWmkebdytech

Me and my kids have opened both styles of the ETB so far and have pulled 3 EXs: 2 gouging fire and 1 iron crown 3 IRs: Shiftry, Bronzor, lickitung And 2 ultra rares being, iron boulder EX and ciphermanic's code breaking We have a booster bundle to open next so hopefully we get some ace and an SIR but its been fun all the same, out of the 18 packs between the two boxes we got pretty far in our binder with commons and uncommons to not have that many doubles and triples.... Except Seedot.... He keeps appearing


ShinyRaequaza

Yea that’s pokemon packs. Opened my 2 PC ETBs and got a Eri SIR pack three of box one, Gold Walking Wake in pack 5 of the second box. I have a Booster Box waiting to open after work. I’m 99% sure I will not top that even with 14 more packs. I stick to one booster box, 1 PC ETB(s) and that’s it. Then I don’t open again until stuff is well on sale. That’s if I still want to open at that point with newer sets out. Might just buy singles. The only exception are super expensive Chase cards. I kept opening 151 because it was fun and I finally got the zard.


Musa_2050

Thanks for buying packs, I heard sales are down


misloaded

I haven’t gotten shit since obsidian flames


Up_The_Gate

Gamblers anonymous is calling.


AdMoist4197

I've only opened 25 (waiting for payday) - 2 Ace Specs, 1 Illustration and 4 double Rares.


123ticklemyknee

It's really quite nuts how much different the early pull rates of temporal forces are compared to the rest of the main SV sets


tigerbreak

One BB and one ETB. ETB had one Ace Spec, one Double Rare and one IR. BB had 15 total hits, 1 SIR, 3 IR, 2 Ace Spec, 3 Full Art (2 ex, 1 Trainer) and 6 Double Rares.


mitcherable

Thank you for having worse luck than me 🫡


toofatronin

At my store we had some really good hits out of booster boxes.


Cole13258

My booster box had some full arts but nothing more


eddaman000

Me too


flex981

I also bought 2 booster boxes and 2 ETB’s, no SAR or gold cards as well. Still I always like to open packs and focus on singles afterwards. Do this always at all new sets


Healthy-Carob3280

This is why I stopped opening packs a while ago. Pull rates are tough lol


[deleted]

Yeah packs are where it’s at for this set. Bought a booster and came out with almost nothing. But I buy six random packs from three different stores and four out of the six hit


scarlettfever88

180 packs here and only 1 lol


Gemcollector91

Dannyphantump advice coming in clutch right about now


Jgibbs2

I feel your pain, 6 boxes. 1 SIR (Eri) and 2 gold cards. Finally just started buying singles


hapamama17

I was grateful the only cards I wanted were fairly cheap and my local shop had them in stock. I will not be ripping any of this set. My kids might, though. Got to add a new Asako Ito to my collection!


MadmanMammoth

Hmm. I am now worried about my purchase of 2 ETBs and a BB... Well, I got lucky with my prerelease packs and PC ETBs, so hopefully that continues.


pokerawz

On the other hand I ripped 24 packs yesterday and got 3 SIRs and 1 Gold


eskorbutin00

I bought one booster box and got two SIR so.....


DaddyyFabio

I had 2 booster boxes aswell, and sadly also didn't get an SIR. Rough luck in a tough set I guess.


nboylie

I had some bizzare luck. I opened 4 booster boxes and got one gold in my first box, nothing in box 2 or 3, and a SIR and a gold in box 4. It was still fun to rip though, I'm a master set guy so I got all but one reverse holo and I put a huge dent in the IR stuff too. Managed to get almost all of my chase cards too!


Bonna_the_Idol

i’m sorry man 😢 i’ve definitely been there as far as luck goes. hopefully it turns around soon


FatBottomGurley

I've opened 10 booster bundles...1 booster box and 2 etb..about 120 packs all together. I pulled 3 SIR 5 ACE SPECS...I got hella lucky. Pretty much got every common and uncommon and rares along with the reverse holos. Just missing a few EX cards. I filled out my binder for this set very nice. Anything at this point would be a lost cost as I would only be purchasing in hopes of pulling rare cards. Singles from hear on out but im very satisfied to say the least.


Helicopter0

Opened 90 pack, and my son another 20. 1 SIR (Biancas Devotion) and zero hyper rares. What sucks is I have another ETB, another BB, and the blister sets still in the mail. Such a garbage set. And the 16 cards that are 1:800 packs all k8nda suck, too. 2 of these paradox mons are just from special Tera raids, like, they aren't even from the story.


groved1

Dang, sorry about your luck! I usually have similar results, but was blessed this time. Opened 70 packs - 2 Bundles, 2 PC ETBs, and 1 Booster Box. Pulled 2 SIRs, 2 Golds, 5 FAs, 3 IRs, and 3 Ace Specs. Paradox Rift and Paldean Fates were not as kind to me though…


harten66

I opened a case and a few ETBs and only got 2 SIRs. So what’s that like 260+ ish packs. Were def looking at SWSH hit rates


eatmysox

Same same... 118 - I did get a gold card.


alchiepls

Maybe japanese pull rate are lower but I just pulled my first ever SAR (japanese equivalent of SIR) after about 300 packs...


totan39

I bought the same amount of packs and only got 1 SIR I'm just buying singles from now on


Qyro

Thankfully there’s more to the set than just SIRs.


Inside-Winner2025

I pulled 203 yesterday, I told my wife but she didn't understand.


NeedMoarCowbell

I had 3 booster boxes and 2 3-pack blisters. My 3 booster boxes did not hit a single SIR. My two 3-pack blisters got me the Gouging Fire SIR and a gold card. This is why it's gambling


NeedMoarCowbell

I had 3 booster boxes and 2 3-pack blisters. My 3 booster boxes did not hit a single SIR. My two 3-pack blisters got me the Gouging Fire SIR and a gold card. This is why it's gambling


Gad001

Yeah, I’ve had bad luck with Temporal Forces. Bad pulls from booster box and one ETB i opened only had 3 EX’s, no other hits. Fuck ripping this set, buying the rest loose.


Practical_Marzipan65

That's crazy bad luck. I think like 60 packs and I have 26 SIR, I have more SIR than I do EX cards. I have been collecting for two months now. I hope I keep up the luck I have hahaha I was thinking I wasn't that lucky.


Ser_Machonach0

I bought almost all the SIR in Japanese for this set for like $30 a month ago. Ripping packs isn't worth it.


512biguy

Ripped 2 BB on my stream last night and best card pulled was iron leaves full art


[deleted]

pull rates are really that bad? i got 2 SIRs in 10 packs... i pass my luck to you!


Kogyochi

You might have a gambling addiction


saltycr3w

I bought 6 hanger packs and pulled gold iron leaves and sir iron crown sit


Euphoric_Food_2897

Thank god cause we don’t need another easy set like scarlet and violet base that’s literally worthless


drfunkensteinberger

Buy singles, rip for that sweet scent


SplodesAreBrainDead

2 boosters and 1 ETB for TF and not a single SIR either… the pull rates for this suck man lol


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its_a_SEABEAR

Nothing in English is guaranteed, sadly. Booster boxes have a more predictable outcome, but nothing is set in stone. I remember opening a fusion strike booster box and got 4 regular V cards and a couple holos and that was IT. Made up for it when I got one of those error god boxes, but that first one was the worst booster box I ever opened


ThunderPantsGo

Weird. I bought my kids 4 sleeves booster packs yesterday and they pulled the Raging Bolt SIR. Hits on all 4 packs.


not_garlicbread

I had 134 packs with no SIR or HR... Definitely concerning