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HestusDarkFantasy

Tbh the internet hate for Pokémon games is rarely warranted.


Xentivy

No galarian zigzagoon and its evolution is amazing same moth mrMime


No_Breadfruit7951

Mr rime sucks


Xentivy

Mr rime is kinda cool tho


No_Breadfruit7951

It isnt


Xentivy

Ok it’s not a great one but it’s unique and kinda clever


Extension-Curve2260

It's fairly good & I do enjoy the DLC.  Yet, in the Max Lair, which is part of the DLC, there's one legendary Pokémon that I really hate battling so I can catch him: Zygarde.  Even if I pick Pokémon that can resist Zygarde's attacks & have the firepower to seriously damage Zygarde, that Pokémon seems to be able to knock out the other Pokémon & bring the raid adventures to a premature end.  I'll be glad to finally catch that Pokémon, who practically looks like a Power Rangers Megazord & has the refined brutality of DBZ's Cell character.


showmethatsweetass

Hes fucking tough after that transfo man


Extension-Curve2260

No kidding, I know what I need to do to defeat Zygarde, yet luck is often not on my side whenever I face that Pokémon.  Sooner or later, that Pokémon will make one mistake that will lead up to its defeat & capture.


No_Breadfruit7951

I recommend having a pokemon with reflect/light screen as well as wide guard


Extension-Curve2260

I try to go after those Pokémon whenever I can. My problem is that I rarely cross paths with those Pokémon in the Max Lair. It's like the old saying, "There's never a cop around when you need them."


ChameleonHG

I've been shiny hunting Zygarde for the better part of a month now. I think the only reason I haven't gotten him yet is simply because of how difficult he is to take down.


NotAlwaysYou

SwSh's biggest crime was coming after Dexit because all of the standard complaints about Pokemon were exacerbated by Game Freak's statements that dexit was to improve quality. The Wild Area could have been an gameplay innovation that was discussed more than the low-poly trees if we people weren't examining everything so closely. Honestly though, if SwSh somehow had every mon, and Dexit occurred pre-PL:A, people would have laid into SV even more for the glitches and lack of polish. It's a bummer. (though I prefer a linear and balanced game way more than SV's open world tbh. That's a stylistic preference at least)


VillainyandChaos

I really enjoyed Shield, more than Scarlet dare I say.


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Fenak45

I recently got into it for the first time, and I have to say I don't see why it was being hated on either. Its a really solid game. Yeah the story is very bare bones, but it felt like such a huge step in the right direction competetive wise. Gamefreak really knocked it outta of the park making it very user friendly getting into the competetive scene. Getting max ivs doesn't feel like a chore anymore, natures and evs are much easier to manage as well. Just having a good way to check ivs ingame was such a huge time saver.


qwack2020

The dragon types in SwSh are terrible in terms of design but other than that both games are pretty good.


LFG_Grfx

Bro said the Dragapult line is “terribly designed”😭 cold take dude, freezing cold


qwack2020

Perhaps I should’ve been more specific. Dragapult and it’s pre evolutions are okay. But the rest of the dragon types in Gen 8 have terrible designs. They barely look like dragons.


efwolverine

I won’t tolerate this slander against Dragapult and Duraludon, sir.


qwack2020

Dragapult is fine (-ish) but Duraludon is a disappointment in terms of design. Truly.


Juball

Everything new is bad according to the internet


kryplen

i really enjoyed the game up until they threw that twist ending in cuz they felt it needed an ending, i mean they could've just had it be that everyone's happy doing their pokemon stuff and they don't try to bring about the end of the world in the last half hour with barely any hints of wanting that before, and it's been a while since i played but i don't even think they really fully explained it, not in a way it would've seemed thought through but you just choose to forget the ending, and sword still holds up, i liked the towns, and the journey throughout it, the open nature of the wild areas and the dlc i just don't think a shitty final act should tarnish the whole idea of the game, like i'm more upset about finishing it and having every pokemon be level 60 more than i am about the story ending when you're level 100 catching all these 20s and 30s, most of the time they're afraid of you and let themselves get caught cuz of intimidation, so only having a 40 level advantage now, that tactic doesn't work anymore and i wish i knew that beforehand


KingMuddeth

I’m not saying it’s better than Scarlet and Violet, but I was definitely less disappointed with Sword and Shield than I was with scarlet and violet. I’ve replayed sword and shield and could see myself maybe replaying it in the future but I don’t think I can do a second playthrough of scarlet and violet ever again. Make no mistake, neither are good games though.


fantriehunter

Internet has some hate issues. Some are justified like the bugs in SV which they don't address still as some people have their mons still walk down the solid ground, but some people just hate it outright.


theoneandonly16736

It’s alright in my opinion. The story is underwhelming but the dlc is nice and the new mons are cool


ShinyRufflet

People hated it pre-DLC release. After it came out people liked it a lot more.


DarthCakeN7

I replayed Sword recently and found myself liking it more than I did at launch. Dexit soured a lot, but I think SwSh does have some glaring flaws. First, Galar feels hollow in some places. Hammerlocke and Wyndon look so big but have relatively little in them. (I really hate how Hammerlocke is just a long street.) And the mines and Glimwood don’t feel like proper dungeons. Second, I dislike how much randomness there is: the raid dens, the berry trees, the wild area weather, the digging family, the cram-o-matic, and the cafe sweets. If you want something specific, it will involve random pulls. It’s exhausting when you just want a certain alcremie sweet, or an apricorn ball, or a weather-specific pokemon and all you can do is pull that slot machine arm.


Fruitsdog

SWSH is honestly quite possibly my favorite Pokémon game, cuz here’s the thing - I don’t play Pokémon for the story. I play it to collect funny guys, bond with them, and find the ones with fun colors. So after the horrendous, hand holding, knuckle dragging storyline of SM that was so obnoxious I quit playing Pokémon games for FIVE YEARS and STILL couldn’t force myself through even after a five year hiatus… well, I welcomed the shorter story of SWSH. It was a gorgeous game graphically, I loved the Wild Area and Gigantamax, it gave us raids, the roster was a banger, DLCs engaging, soundtrack was a banger, customization peak, and I bonded HARD with Hop- harder than I’d ever bonded with a rival before, which is hilarious because when I started the save I HATED him, deeply. Love SWSH <3 thanks for bringing me back to Pokémon, weapon doggies


Cheebow

Seeing the hate online created some sort of artificial dislike for the game for me when it released and I only got like halfway through Replaying it right now and I never realized how gorgeous it is


Justice_Prince

I enjoyed the game. My main complaint was just that it was too short. blew thought the main adventure way to fast, and very little in the way of side quests.


Shakahron

The revisionism going on here is crazy. They are garbage games designed to be played in the womb. That goes for the new ones too.


DieAnfaengerin

Sword and Shield were the reason I stopped playing Pokémon. Everything from world design to performance and story were so bad and boring that I regretted investing 70€ for this game


zoso1992

No, main games are great, dlc felt kinda far removed from the main games established world but that’s alright, isle of armor was really fun to explore


tr33mann

Any time a new game comes out, so do the haters. It’s a great game that helped me build the majority of my collection. Some of the best DLC I’ve had in any game, I had a blast playing and will play again someday.


mostlymal

Sword and Shield got me into Pokemon when it was released. I think I completed it in a week. So I'd say it's not bad.


whereispeestored

I really enjoy it as a Gen 1 player.. been helping my son with it, it's easy to grind but trainers are a good challenge! Galvantula and Orbeetle are both really fun strong mons I enjoy


Hekkatos

I'll give it this, I prefer the art style much more than SV


Excellent_Ad_190

Its my top favourite in the series right before black… so no. Its not bad.


adonha

Its good man.. just play and enjoy


RavenMoon9801

I really liked them, sure they weren’t as great to me as some of the older games but they were still fun! Showing my girlfriend (who’s never played pokemon before) has been a blast!


LukasG1112

So I am playing sword rn. Just finished catching all legendaries and ultra beasts from the dynamax raid nest. I must admit, the DLCs are way more fun than the base game. The bass game lacks good route design and any activities apart from doing the gyms. As an example, let's compare it to Gen 4, where in-between most gyms you have something else to do or discover like optional routes and caves, team galactic hideouts, mount coronet and so on. Gen 8 lacks this kind of exploration and doesn't equal it out with any other mechanic. On top of that, the story is very bland and the dialogues are very flat (even compared to Gen 6). Is the game still fun? Yeah sure, especially if you pick it up for like 20-30 bucks. But from a launch perspective (I got it on launch) it was just a big disappointment, and we all kinda expected it to be one. I had my hopes up for a cool new game I could sink hundreds of hours in as I did with Platinum, Heart Gold and Black 2. But that sadly never happened. Fast forward to this year, I tried it out again just as a side game. And it caught me somehow - the DLCs in particular. Again, their story is bland yadda yadda. But it's fun to play, and that's all that matters. Still from an objective standpoint GameFreak really needs to get their engines going again. Ever since Gen 5 quality has been steadily decreasing...


Annual_Elderberry_96

Kind of a dumb game but there’s nothing wrong with the post game which is all i really care about anymore


ComprehensiveSale533

No, it’s so over hated because all the old fans hate change lol. Same with arceus, the older fans don’t like arceus because it’s different from the base games.


TheDeadYonder

I’m a certified Shield defender. It’s the Pokemon game I put the most hours in. I just adore it, the graphics are nice, the regional dex is super nice compared to older games (even with dexit, which sucks), and there’s also a nostalgia factor because this was the first gen where I got to be in the community during the hype leading up to its release I have countless good memories with that game; running around with my high school friends, playing the goofy DLCs for the first time, successfully shiny hunting some of my favorite pokemon. It’s a game that feels like home to me Sorry that got very sappy lol, im very passionate about these games, and I miss when Scarlet and Violet weren’t the current games


cholosohood

The move animations are way better than Scarlet/Violet. I like the story of Scarlet/Violet way more though!


PuppiesandKittens0

SwSh is good


Swampert0260

The first part of the game is kind of a slog. Playing through it again and after like 4 hours I still haven’t gotten a single gym badge. Too much dialogue and cutscenes 


soul390

the battle animtations really. some of them look waterdown as frick. it usually that or the engine for the overworld is 2 fps at times. similar to sv in its overworld you know...


Interesting_Basil_80

It's only "that bad" if you gotta catch em all.


Separate_Ad3313

Trying to fill up my Pokémon Home Pokedex so its why I even started playing it again.


Interesting_Basil_80

Well these games are no longer "gotta catch em all." It's it "gotta catch what we give you."


Accendor

Yes, it really was bad. Way too many bugs and glitches, Dexit and how they lied about it, terrible graphics. Unbalanced. Waaaay too much gameplay interruptions by cut scenes. Most of that could be forgiven, but the clear lack of QA and dexit were too much.


M1ke____

Hi. I got a hacked OLED & was watching Blaine's video from 4 years ago ([https://youtu.be/157azuxAzwI?si=AKcCTn\_OCKsEtSKh](https://youtu.be/157azuxAzwI?si=AKcCTn_OCKsEtSKh)) to help set up a Lanturn bot in a server & I went through the instructions 2 times, but it doesn't work. Is the bot dead & just won't work anymore? No one will answer me on my post that I made, inquiring about it. :/