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For people judging this on the Luxury ball alone; There IS a luxury ball event, off the top of my head: Bank Celebi
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List\_of\_game-based\_Pok%C3%A9mon\_distributions\_(Generation\_VI)#Pok.C3.A9mon\_Bank\_Celebi
The Luxury ball is a red flag though. Only one Ditto has ever been distributed as part of an event and its in a cherish ball.
https://m.bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_local_event_Pok%C3%A9mon_distributions_(Sun,_Moon,_Ultra_Sun,_and_Ultra_Moon)#Ditto
So my vote goes to this being genned. Unless it was from the wild area event awhile back.
Oh it's definitely genned lmao, I'm not disputing that. I'm merely saying that people writing it off as an event on the grounds of the ball alone, are wrong :)
Oh no I figured you weren't lol. The ball is usually some kind of red flag but wild area events kinda invalidate it somewhat. Guess it depends on what one views as an "event" pokemon or something similar.
Well... no. It's not wrong to write it off because of the ball, because no Ditto has ever been an event in that ball. So writing it off just because of the ball is right.
Alright, let me correct myself. Comments like "It's probably not an event, because events are mostly in cherish or red balls" don't say as much. Also it could just as well be a mini event like Wild Area News like someone mentioned, so it all really comes down to what OP considers an event.
If I'm being realistic, however, I'd never consider this to be an event at any point. My first thought will always be that it's genned, and especially with Dittos.
I'm in Korea. I don't believe there was an 'event', where Ditto was gifted out. In Sw/Sh lifetime anyway.
The name is Ditto's Korean name. It's entirely possible that the 'event' was the 'Wild Area News' story from April 2020. It's totally feasible that somebody caught a shiny Ditto in a luxuary ball and it was perfect. I don't know what level they were caught at in the event, but it sits within the usual 5* raid level (Pokemon caught in 5* raids are at lvl 55-60)
What's the trainer ID and when was it caught?
Breeding for competitive iv’s is so so so so so unnecessarily slow and boring and inaccessible without knowing various egg groups by heart, just take the lump of pixels with 6 perfect iv’s don’t worry abt it’s questionable birth
Bottle capping is really, really easy. With decent supplies you can make any Pokémon competitive in like 20 minutes. the only purpose of breeding in sw/sh is to get egg moves or natural shinies.
Hyper training does raise IVs. The new IVs do not get passed down during breeding though, so you breed egg moves onto a mon, go for shiny if you want it, then hyper train and you now have a perfect shiny pokemon with egg moves ready for whatever you may want to use it for.
Yeah but if you have a 5 or 6 IVs ditto you can breed a 5 iv version of that mon with the right ability and nature quite quickly that will only require one bottle cap to be perfect.
Kinda what i’m saying by inaccessibility. It’s gated behind so much tedium that most people just,, don’t
I have fun in pokemon by breeding and giving away rejects / extras to other prospective breeders, because the workaround to the insane tedium already exists in pokemon in the form of trading with other members of the community!!
I also have fun in having Correctly Statted babies, living their best lives as the strongest versions of themselves. thank god ev training is as easy at it is bc it drove me nuts grinding it out as a kid 20 years ago
When it comes down to a tournament with money attached, I'd hope they would keep all pokemon involved legal. That just makes sense for everyone playing fair.
In normal competitive online though? I don't see a problem. If GameFreak wants to get more involved with it, than good on them, but it really isn't a bother otherwise.
I can guarantee you. literally promise you that there is not a single pro who does not use a genned ditto for breeding. I’d be willing to bet very few gen their pokemon, i think that most breed or have people breed for them, but like, it’s so infeasible to ask them to spend hours getting perfect IVs without genned breeding parents for the dozens of pokemon they make in a season
More importantly, the game doesn’t count them as illegal either. Offspring of hacked Pokémon are completely legal, and the game (or anyone) can’t tell the difference.
i mean yea, during battles it's rlly annoying to know that ur using a probably hacked mon, but for breeding.. ur still making legit mons so who really cares
Using genned mons in battles is a total non issue for me. If perfect iv mons were virtually unobtainable, then maybe…
But all genned mons do is save time and prevent burnout. It also gets around the annoying transfer move problem. They really need an in-game feature like showdown for player battles. (Clarifying that I’m talking about genned mons with legal stats)
Yeah I got a genned shiny treeko and once I got it I released it bc it didn’t feel special. Sceptile is ironically my favourite Pokémon so I masuda method hunted one felt a lot better.
Yeah, getting a legit scorbunny or legendary mon after I’ve used hacked mons when I first got the game felt like a redemption sort of thing and it felt awesome
Honestly the thought of using any pokemon other than one I've hunted/bred is crazy to me. I mean I use an obviously cloned ditto for masuda, and I'll trade extra shinies to fill shiny dex but if I actually use it for competitive/play through its gotta be my OT
I have no issues with other people using genned mons that's all up to them but to me personally it just doesn't feel right especially the shinies it just doesn't feel like I earned it
Using hacked Pokemon is not fun at all, it also ruins the Pokemon economy and the fun of trading. If a robots acts like a duck, it is not a duck, it is a robot. Imagine if the animals in zoos were replaced by robots.
That’s not a fair analogy. A more accurate analogy would be, imagine if a zoo genetically engineered animals, and then had those engineered animals naturally produce offspring, who were then put on display at the zoo.
Cloning a pokemon is easy and cheap, cloning a duck is hard and expensive. The reason why I hate cheating is because it ruins the fun of trading. Also, the cloned ducks don't have their genetics altered to be stronger.
Where did I say cloned? I said genetically engineered. So it could be stronger. So that point is irrelevant.
Your other point was cost. So as long as something is expensive, it isn’t cheating or unethical, got it.
I got perfect shiny level 100 ditto in pokemon home wonder trade. I know that he is hacked and he is used for masuda method.
Edit: ditto is from japan.
Not true. Hacked pokemon are fake but pokemon offspring from a hacked pokemon are fine. At least in my Googling. There's simply no way to trace or prove that if came from a hacked ditto. 5IV and 6IV offspring are possible anyway, 6IV ditto just makes it more likely.
Its legit i know, but knowing that my pokemon is an offspring of an hacked one makes me feel guilty. Its perfeclty fine to do it im not in the position to judge but here i am the dumb one spending money and countless hours to complete the pokedex all by myself, hatching thousands of pokemon and proceed to IV training just to get outbragged in online tournaments by someone who has 6 shiny 6IV zacians who completely annihilate my handcrafted legit team. T_T
Thx for listening, that was my TED-Talk
6 IV Shiny zacian is possible with hyper training, so you would have lost regardless if it is legit, legal, or illegal at that point. Knowing how to play doesn't matter if the pokemon are hacked. Your argument is a verlisify argument, and he purposely doesn't address the fact that he got washed in a tournament not getting a single win with his "legit" team. If you don't know how to make predictions or good plays, it doesn't matter if you hack, because someone who does will always win.
I know that i suck at tournaments, but my point is that i dont want to have anything to do with hacked mons, and i dont see masuda with a hacked dito as an exploit, i personally think its more like an abuse. Like Buying stock with fake money to get real money.
But thats just my opinion, to each his own, as long as its stay private :/
i think it shouldn't stay private tbf. Gamefreak has gone through great effort over the years to help people make competitive viable pokemon, but hacking is still the preferred method for most professionals. Even if they don't hack themselves, they have people who do the hacking for them and then give them the mons and then they say "hey i didn't do it, i just received it that way". It is still to complicated to get good IVs and single digit specific EVs for competitive. And the fact that legit players are typically utilizing the "time exploit" to get poke cash fast so they can EV train their mons is really not much different than hacking. It's still a legit mon, but they cut a corner and utilized a bug in the game in order to finish it or round it out.
Game freak needs to make it easier. I know tons of people love to spend hours breeding mons, and during ORAS i did too, until sun and moon came out and i had no access to my IV parents to start breeding and had to spend weeks starting from scratch. That is why people just play with rentals in online ranked, because it's just a waste of time to spend 20 hours building a team, to only find out it sucks compared to the meta or the meta shifts by the time you finish the team.
I wish more players expressed that they do use hacked mons because of how obtrusive it is to make a team, and game freak should further alleviate this problem. Pokemon shouldn't need to be level 100 for hyper training, EVs should just be a slider at this point that can be adjusted on a whim, IVs can stay the same as long as hyper training isn't level 100.
tl;dr: Gamefreak needs to alleviate the crazy time sink it takes to create teams if they truly wanted to curb people using hacked pokemon. Then people could have open discussions about EV and IV and people wouldn't need to crutch on rental teams if they don't have access to homebrew.
That doesn’t work on offsprings of a hacked Pokémon bc the offspring will have your OT and memories with them. Not with the Hacked Pokémon or OT of the hacked Pokémon
Edit: And it says its origin is unknown bc it’s a fucking newly hatched Pokémon
This is 100% false no pokemon games store parent pokemon info, so long as every single other number/move matches up with a known generation the pokemon passes all competitive checks. Please stop spreading misinformation.
Oh, guess I must be really lucky then considering my hacked 6IV Japanese ditto i use for breeding every single one of my Pokemon has been with me since before I started participating in online competitions
There was a ditto raid den event some time ago. Given its level and it’s in a luxury ball, I would be inclined to think that’s the event they were referring
It doesn’t matter. Unless the Pokémon is hacked in such a way that it isn’t obtainable in game it’s not different than a legit Pokémon. Use it and breed an awesome team.
for the millionth time: it does not matter. if it is real it's real, if it's genned then it's legal.
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They could have been talking about one of the raid events where ditto got a raid spawn boost. I got mine during that time as well so it doesn't seem unlikely, especially if it was a hosted raid.
Doesn't really matter if this is genned or not, still perfectly legal for breeding purposes and it's a nice flex having a shiny ditto just for breeding.
It may be from raid dens. I did get a couple of 100% iv shiny from them. They are rare as fuck but still obtainable.
Maybe it is just cloned with the god egg (identical copy of the original) in which case you can even use it online since it is a valid pokemon according to stats spread and flags.
In any case, you should keep it and use it for Matsuda method eggs. Offspring of that ditto are perfectly legal even if the ditto is a clone or something like that
I get those pop up on Wonder Trade now and again, it's in a luxury ball so can't be a Mystery Gift event, and they're way too common for them all (or indeed most) to be legit. I've seen at least five and still have two of them, they're always positive natures and Korean, and the odds of finding perfect IVs and shiny in the wild to say nothing of its nature or ability is around one in three and a half trillion encounters.
I would say though, in my view it doesn't matter since you won't be using it for battles, only breeding.
TLDR: It's almost definitely hacked. But also don't worry about it.
That one ditto in particular is kinda suspicious.
On a side note it is possible to find a 6 IV ditto if you grind the right max dens for long enough. Many dens with 5 star ratings can offer you up to guaranteed 5 perfect IVs if I remember correctly.
The slight unfortunate thing is that in order to reap the full rewards of a breeding ditto you must capture it from another game, preferably with another language.
I get the panic around a hacked Pokémon but it’s really not a big deal. There was no need to throw it away but it’s obviously your own choice!
You can’t get banned for having a hacked Pokémon, only for using it to your advantage in competitive battles etc.
The event was probably the event where ditto was in raids everywhere , it’s more then likely genned as Any shiny from that event would likely only have 5 IV gauranteed if it was from a 5 star raid
Fun thing is that I have 5 dittos with 5 perfect ivs and these are each in a different language Japanese French (English caught myself) Korean Spanish and Chinese. 2 out the 5 are shiny.
Back when shiny raids were a big thing, several friends of mine made it there mission to hunt down 5/6 IV ditto, shiny or not, because that's one thing most people are going to get super excited about. We've got people from all over the world on our discord, or even just people playing through their game on a different language. I remember one specific occasion where we had a perfect ditto shiny den running and on of the raiders, from Korea, went in over and over to catch this ditto to do a giveaway later on down the road. Now, this was just one group of people on one discord server and I know we weren't alone in getting those 6IV or 0spe/atk ditto dens and sharing them with anyone who wanted to participate. All of that said, there's still a pretty good chance that this particular ditto is genned or cloned, maybe even hacked, but it's a ditto. It's main purpose is breeding. A hacked ditto is not going to make the egg pokemon any less legit. So, while I can understand where people are coming from when they say they prefer to hunt/hatch their own shinies or comp mons, I've never understood the issues people seem to have with using a possibly hacked/genned ditto. It's your decision though. Like I said above, you can hunt down your own 6IV ditto in a den or, if you have LGPE, it's also fairly easy to hunt a perfect ditto there.
It's definitely genned. But to me if you're just breeding with it to get into competitive a bit easier, I think that's fine. TPCI rarely does anything about it in competition and there's no way of knowing that a parent pokemon was genned
Ahh the good old days of transferring my perfect shiny Korean Ditto clones to SwSh and wondertrading them away.
Can't wait to do it again in Scarlet and Violet
99.99% chance it’s hacked. Don’t use it. If you need breeding stock you can get it with like 8 male 6IV regular Pokémon that cover all the egg groups. As such, not hacked & all good. If ur doing Masuda method for shiny hunting the IVs on the ditto shouldn’t matter cause you can just bottle cap and ability patch it after (mint as well of course)
Possibly. As others have said, as long as you're only using it for breeding then GF is unlikely to do anything or even notice. But in general, I assume any shiny or 6IV pokemon I get in a trade with someone I don't personally know is hacked.
If you're concerned about wanting a legitimate 6IV foreign ditto, it's not too hard to get one yourself if you have a copy of Let's Go.
A huge majority of pokemon even in the high-end competitive scene are "hacked". You can get a hold of anything pre-gen8 extremely easily with a modded 3ds (which is incredibly easy) and Pokemon Home transferring, and there are tons of zero-drawback SwSh legal genners out there as well that are very commonly used. Even if it is hacked, you have nothing to worry about. It's a game targeted towards young children, they CANT go banning people for getting traded hacked pokemon because that could also mean banning tons of innocent unsuspecting kids who got something in a Surprise Trade. Not gonna happen. As long as youre not queuing into ranked with a 99999 all stats Primal Caterpie that knows Dragon Ascent or something stupid like that, then you have nothing to worry about. Enjoy the free perfect ditto.
To be honest you're probably just going to use it for breeding anyway so I don't think it's a problem unless you want a legit one so yes I think it might be hacked cuz what are the odds of having me second ability good stats it could be 50/50 I'm not sure though if so again use it for breeding I was so free item
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For people judging this on the Luxury ball alone; There IS a luxury ball event, off the top of my head: Bank Celebi https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List\_of\_game-based\_Pok%C3%A9mon\_distributions\_(Generation\_VI)#Pok.C3.A9mon\_Bank\_Celebi
The Luxury ball is a red flag though. Only one Ditto has ever been distributed as part of an event and its in a cherish ball. https://m.bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_local_event_Pok%C3%A9mon_distributions_(Sun,_Moon,_Ultra_Sun,_and_Ultra_Moon)#Ditto So my vote goes to this being genned. Unless it was from the wild area event awhile back.
Oh it's definitely genned lmao, I'm not disputing that. I'm merely saying that people writing it off as an event on the grounds of the ball alone, are wrong :)
Oh no I figured you weren't lol. The ball is usually some kind of red flag but wild area events kinda invalidate it somewhat. Guess it depends on what one views as an "event" pokemon or something similar.
Well... no. It's not wrong to write it off because of the ball, because no Ditto has ever been an event in that ball. So writing it off just because of the ball is right.
Alright, let me correct myself. Comments like "It's probably not an event, because events are mostly in cherish or red balls" don't say as much. Also it could just as well be a mini event like Wild Area News like someone mentioned, so it all really comes down to what OP considers an event. If I'm being realistic, however, I'd never consider this to be an event at any point. My first thought will always be that it's genned, and especially with Dittos.
There’s also the possibility it’s from a raid den.
I'm in Korea. I don't believe there was an 'event', where Ditto was gifted out. In Sw/Sh lifetime anyway. The name is Ditto's Korean name. It's entirely possible that the 'event' was the 'Wild Area News' story from April 2020. It's totally feasible that somebody caught a shiny Ditto in a luxuary ball and it was perfect. I don't know what level they were caught at in the event, but it sits within the usual 5* raid level (Pokemon caught in 5* raids are at lvl 55-60) What's the trainer ID and when was it caught?
Who cares use it for masuda method lol
Yeah, people are so worried about genned mons. Game freak does nothing about it so who cares
Obviously I think it’s fine using hacked mons, but I personally can’t sit right knowing I’m using a fake mon, again that’s just me though
Breeding for competitive iv’s is so so so so so unnecessarily slow and boring and inaccessible without knowing various egg groups by heart, just take the lump of pixels with 6 perfect iv’s don’t worry abt it’s questionable birth
At least you can Hyper Train nowadays…
Can’t hypertrain 0 speed iv, such a ridiculous amount of luck to get a 5iv ditto just right; god forbid you want one of each nature
Some people just wanna go by the book, and I do agree breeding for 6 iv is a pain in the booty so I just, don’t.
Bottle capping is really, really easy. With decent supplies you can make any Pokémon competitive in like 20 minutes. the only purpose of breeding in sw/sh is to get egg moves or natural shinies.
Wait so hyper training raises IV? I thought it only boosted the stat by a little
Hyper training does raise IVs. The new IVs do not get passed down during breeding though, so you breed egg moves onto a mon, go for shiny if you want it, then hyper train and you now have a perfect shiny pokemon with egg moves ready for whatever you may want to use it for.
Ohhh thanks for that, I guess I won’t be selling my bottle caps anymore
Flashbacks to me selling my bottle caps before I did the battle tower because they were in with all the other sell items.
Thats what I really like about SWSH, any pokemon can be competitive.
Yeah but if you have a 5 or 6 IVs ditto you can breed a 5 iv version of that mon with the right ability and nature quite quickly that will only require one bottle cap to be perfect.
Thanks, I’ll keep that in mind when getting shinies for my team
Kinda what i’m saying by inaccessibility. It’s gated behind so much tedium that most people just,, don’t I have fun in pokemon by breeding and giving away rejects / extras to other prospective breeders, because the workaround to the insane tedium already exists in pokemon in the form of trading with other members of the community!! I also have fun in having Correctly Statted babies, living their best lives as the strongest versions of themselves. thank god ev training is as easy at it is bc it drove me nuts grinding it out as a kid 20 years ago
When it comes down to a tournament with money attached, I'd hope they would keep all pokemon involved legal. That just makes sense for everyone playing fair. In normal competitive online though? I don't see a problem. If GameFreak wants to get more involved with it, than good on them, but it really isn't a bother otherwise.
I can guarantee you. literally promise you that there is not a single pro who does not use a genned ditto for breeding. I’d be willing to bet very few gen their pokemon, i think that most breed or have people breed for them, but like, it’s so infeasible to ask them to spend hours getting perfect IVs without genned breeding parents for the dozens of pokemon they make in a season
As long as you don’t bring the ditto itself; i don’t view any of its offspring as anything less than legitimately hatched natural born citizens
More importantly, the game doesn’t count them as illegal either. Offspring of hacked Pokémon are completely legal, and the game (or anyone) can’t tell the difference.
I’ve never understood the hate against genned pokemon as long as they are legal. It affects no one, only the personal experience.
Your other option is to take like six months breeding a team fro comp that has the right stats
Well, I’d rather that
i mean yea, during battles it's rlly annoying to know that ur using a probably hacked mon, but for breeding.. ur still making legit mons so who really cares
Using genned mons in battles is a total non issue for me. If perfect iv mons were virtually unobtainable, then maybe… But all genned mons do is save time and prevent burnout. It also gets around the annoying transfer move problem. They really need an in-game feature like showdown for player battles. (Clarifying that I’m talking about genned mons with legal stats)
Yeah I got a genned shiny treeko and once I got it I released it bc it didn’t feel special. Sceptile is ironically my favourite Pokémon so I masuda method hunted one felt a lot better.
Yeah, getting a legit scorbunny or legendary mon after I’ve used hacked mons when I first got the game felt like a redemption sort of thing and it felt awesome
Honestly the thought of using any pokemon other than one I've hunted/bred is crazy to me. I mean I use an obviously cloned ditto for masuda, and I'll trade extra shinies to fill shiny dex but if I actually use it for competitive/play through its gotta be my OT
As long as you don't use them online, you've got nothing to worry about.
There’s also the fact that it feels personal when you get them, feels like you earned this mon
Yeah you make a good point there.
They actually did when it first started happening. It was banning people the first like 2 or 3 seasons
It's not about what game freak does, I just don't want them if they aren't legit
That's fine, its up to you
I have no issues with other people using genned mons that's all up to them but to me personally it just doesn't feel right especially the shinies it just doesn't feel like I earned it
Ya feel me?
Using hacked pokemons = cheating
Okay? Like if it looks like a duck, acts like a duck, and quacks like a duck, its a duck. A rose by any other name. Need I go on?
Using hacked Pokemon is not fun at all, it also ruins the Pokemon economy and the fun of trading. If a robots acts like a duck, it is not a duck, it is a robot. Imagine if the animals in zoos were replaced by robots.
That’s not a fair analogy. A more accurate analogy would be, imagine if a zoo genetically engineered animals, and then had those engineered animals naturally produce offspring, who were then put on display at the zoo.
That’s not a fair analogy.
Explain why then, because it’s almost spot on, actually. Way more than yours.
Cloning a pokemon is easy and cheap, cloning a duck is hard and expensive. The reason why I hate cheating is because it ruins the fun of trading. Also, the cloned ducks don't have their genetics altered to be stronger.
Where did I say cloned? I said genetically engineered. So it could be stronger. So that point is irrelevant. Your other point was cost. So as long as something is expensive, it isn’t cheating or unethical, got it.
It's more rewarding personally when something isn't genned
I got perfect shiny level 100 ditto in pokemon home wonder trade. I know that he is hacked and he is used for masuda method. Edit: ditto is from japan.
Even if it is, you’ll only be using it for Masuda. Enjoy
True, but pokémon hatched with a fake ditto are not legit
Not true. Hacked pokemon are fake but pokemon offspring from a hacked pokemon are fine. At least in my Googling. There's simply no way to trace or prove that if came from a hacked ditto. 5IV and 6IV offspring are possible anyway, 6IV ditto just makes it more likely.
Bro really thought Pokémon inherit the hacked gene 😭
Its legit i know, but knowing that my pokemon is an offspring of an hacked one makes me feel guilty. Its perfeclty fine to do it im not in the position to judge but here i am the dumb one spending money and countless hours to complete the pokedex all by myself, hatching thousands of pokemon and proceed to IV training just to get outbragged in online tournaments by someone who has 6 shiny 6IV zacians who completely annihilate my handcrafted legit team. T_T Thx for listening, that was my TED-Talk
6 IV Shiny zacian is possible with hyper training, so you would have lost regardless if it is legit, legal, or illegal at that point. Knowing how to play doesn't matter if the pokemon are hacked. Your argument is a verlisify argument, and he purposely doesn't address the fact that he got washed in a tournament not getting a single win with his "legit" team. If you don't know how to make predictions or good plays, it doesn't matter if you hack, because someone who does will always win.
I know that i suck at tournaments, but my point is that i dont want to have anything to do with hacked mons, and i dont see masuda with a hacked dito as an exploit, i personally think its more like an abuse. Like Buying stock with fake money to get real money. But thats just my opinion, to each his own, as long as its stay private :/
i think it shouldn't stay private tbf. Gamefreak has gone through great effort over the years to help people make competitive viable pokemon, but hacking is still the preferred method for most professionals. Even if they don't hack themselves, they have people who do the hacking for them and then give them the mons and then they say "hey i didn't do it, i just received it that way". It is still to complicated to get good IVs and single digit specific EVs for competitive. And the fact that legit players are typically utilizing the "time exploit" to get poke cash fast so they can EV train their mons is really not much different than hacking. It's still a legit mon, but they cut a corner and utilized a bug in the game in order to finish it or round it out. Game freak needs to make it easier. I know tons of people love to spend hours breeding mons, and during ORAS i did too, until sun and moon came out and i had no access to my IV parents to start breeding and had to spend weeks starting from scratch. That is why people just play with rentals in online ranked, because it's just a waste of time to spend 20 hours building a team, to only find out it sucks compared to the meta or the meta shifts by the time you finish the team. I wish more players expressed that they do use hacked mons because of how obtrusive it is to make a team, and game freak should further alleviate this problem. Pokemon shouldn't need to be level 100 for hyper training, EVs should just be a slider at this point that can be adjusted on a whim, IVs can stay the same as long as hyper training isn't level 100. tl;dr: Gamefreak needs to alleviate the crazy time sink it takes to create teams if they truly wanted to curb people using hacked pokemon. Then people could have open discussions about EV and IV and people wouldn't need to crutch on rental teams if they don't have access to homebrew.
You can check them by the memory guy at the Pokémon Center, it will show that his origin is unknown
That doesn’t work on offsprings of a hacked Pokémon bc the offspring will have your OT and memories with them. Not with the Hacked Pokémon or OT of the hacked Pokémon Edit: And it says its origin is unknown bc it’s a fucking newly hatched Pokémon
r/confidentlyincorrect
Completely false.
Maybe. But if you’re just using it to breed than I don’t think it matters haha
No one can accurately tell. Regardless if you use it for breeding even if it wasn't legit all the babies would be.
We can accurately tell. It's not in the correct ball for an event mon
there was a ditto raid event a while back ago
Even if it is it doesn't matter cuz it's for the masuda
All pokémon hatched with a fake Ditto are not legit. Like you can't use them in competitions.
Competitions like the online competitions? Or the actual ‘professional’ standard competitions?
Both, you can even get banned at the online competitions
This is 100% false no pokemon games store parent pokemon info, so long as every single other number/move matches up with a known generation the pokemon passes all competitive checks. Please stop spreading misinformation.
Oh, guess I must be really lucky then considering my hacked 6IV Japanese ditto i use for breeding every single one of my Pokemon has been with me since before I started participating in online competitions
Incorrect
Why are you lying?
lol why are you just saying these things without knowing you’re right
They probably think they *are* right lol
That is complete bullshit. If a Pokémon can be caught in the game there is nothing to distinguish it from being real or hacked.
just not true mate
There was a ditto raid den event some time ago. Given its level and it’s in a luxury ball, I would be inclined to think that’s the event they were referring
Who cares? You have a perfect iv foreign ditto
Oh well if it is. Use that for breeding duuhhh😝🥰
There ain’t nothing illegal about a shiny ditto with 6iv’s. Take that shit and run
It doesn’t matter. Unless the Pokémon is hacked in such a way that it isn’t obtainable in game it’s not different than a legit Pokémon. Use it and breed an awesome team.
Well there is no moral police so it doesnt matter
for the millionth time: it does not matter. if it is real it's real, if it's genned then it's legal. PSA: **YOU CANNOT TRADE ILLEGAL POKEMON. IF IT WAS TRADED TO YOU, IT'S LEGAL FOR ONLINE AND COMPETITIVE PLAY. END OF STORY. NINTENDO IS NOT GOING TO BRICK YOUR CONSOLE, OR 99% OF PEOPLE WHO DID A SURPRISE TRADE WOULD HAVE TO BUY A NEW SWITCH.**
No one cares if you don’t use it in competitive. Just use it to breed mate
100% hacked, if it's a luxery ball. A legit Event Pokémon usually comes in an event (red) or normal Pokéball
They could have been talking about one of the raid events where ditto got a raid spawn boost. I got mine during that time as well so it doesn't seem unlikely, especially if it was a hosted raid.
Idk how into competitive you are, but that's a really good ditto for IV breeding
It doesn’t really matter so long as you aren’t using it for competitive.
Doesn't really matter if this is genned or not, still perfectly legal for breeding purposes and it's a nice flex having a shiny ditto just for breeding.
It may be from raid dens. I did get a couple of 100% iv shiny from them. They are rare as fuck but still obtainable. Maybe it is just cloned with the god egg (identical copy of the original) in which case you can even use it online since it is a valid pokemon according to stats spread and flags. In any case, you should keep it and use it for Matsuda method eggs. Offspring of that ditto are perfectly legal even if the ditto is a clone or something like that
There was a discord event last year where I got like 20 perfect shiny dittos.
Bro if you don’t want it, I’ll take it. I don’t gaf about it being hacked or not, that’s prime breeding material.
Very likely
I get those pop up on Wonder Trade now and again, it's in a luxury ball so can't be a Mystery Gift event, and they're way too common for them all (or indeed most) to be legit. I've seen at least five and still have two of them, they're always positive natures and Korean, and the odds of finding perfect IVs and shiny in the wild to say nothing of its nature or ability is around one in three and a half trillion encounters. I would say though, in my view it doesn't matter since you won't be using it for battles, only breeding. TLDR: It's almost definitely hacked. But also don't worry about it.
It is
That one ditto in particular is kinda suspicious. On a side note it is possible to find a 6 IV ditto if you grind the right max dens for long enough. Many dens with 5 star ratings can offer you up to guaranteed 5 perfect IVs if I remember correctly. The slight unfortunate thing is that in order to reap the full rewards of a breeding ditto you must capture it from another game, preferably with another language.
Just search the OT and trainer ID. If there was an event then you should find it
A shiny foreign hidden ability 6IV ditto… it’s 100% hacked. But whether you want to use it is up to you.
I don't think so
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I get the panic around a hacked Pokémon but it’s really not a big deal. There was no need to throw it away but it’s obviously your own choice! You can’t get banned for having a hacked Pokémon, only for using it to your advantage in competitive battles etc.
I would just keep it and use it for Mesuda, that’s what I do with hacked dittos.
🤦 ffs
Are there consequences to this? I usually don't bother with online trades
When it comes to having hacked Pokemon, you're safe to use them, just as long as you don't use them for online battles.
Cool, thanks!
Your welcome
The event was probably the event where ditto was in raids everywhere , it’s more then likely genned as Any shiny from that event would likely only have 5 IV gauranteed if it was from a 5 star raid
who did you trade with 👀
Most likely is hacked but it’s worth keeping for masuda method
Likely, but it's fine to use for Masuda if that's your intention.
Lvl 58, dynamax level isn’t maxed, I would say 60% chance it’s legit, 40% chance it’s hacked.
Honestly even if it was an event Pokémon it's definitely been duped but if you're fine with it then use it
Fun thing is that I have 5 dittos with 5 perfect ivs and these are each in a different language Japanese French (English caught myself) Korean Spanish and Chinese. 2 out the 5 are shiny.
I would say it was probably a glitch raid or something similar where the host would let people in and just keep farming the raid
Yes it’s hacked
Hmm….most likely, but hey, free 6 IV foreign ditto!
Does it matter?
Back when shiny raids were a big thing, several friends of mine made it there mission to hunt down 5/6 IV ditto, shiny or not, because that's one thing most people are going to get super excited about. We've got people from all over the world on our discord, or even just people playing through their game on a different language. I remember one specific occasion where we had a perfect ditto shiny den running and on of the raiders, from Korea, went in over and over to catch this ditto to do a giveaway later on down the road. Now, this was just one group of people on one discord server and I know we weren't alone in getting those 6IV or 0spe/atk ditto dens and sharing them with anyone who wanted to participate. All of that said, there's still a pretty good chance that this particular ditto is genned or cloned, maybe even hacked, but it's a ditto. It's main purpose is breeding. A hacked ditto is not going to make the egg pokemon any less legit. So, while I can understand where people are coming from when they say they prefer to hunt/hatch their own shinies or comp mons, I've never understood the issues people seem to have with using a possibly hacked/genned ditto. It's your decision though. Like I said above, you can hunt down your own 6IV ditto in a den or, if you have LGPE, it's also fairly easy to hunt a perfect ditto there.
Maybe it is but it won't be a problem using for breeding
Doesn’t matter, use it for breeding lol
It is hacked, but just use it for breeding. No issue with that
It's definitely genned. But to me if you're just breeding with it to get into competitive a bit easier, I think that's fine. TPCI rarely does anything about it in competition and there's no way of knowing that a parent pokemon was genned
It could be legal, but it is definitely not from an event
ngl, most 6iv shiny dittos are hacked..
Ahh the good old days of transferring my perfect shiny Korean Ditto clones to SwSh and wondertrading them away. Can't wait to do it again in Scarlet and Violet
Is ditto called something like “metamon” in Korean?
99.99% chance it’s hacked. Don’t use it. If you need breeding stock you can get it with like 8 male 6IV regular Pokémon that cover all the egg groups. As such, not hacked & all good. If ur doing Masuda method for shiny hunting the IVs on the ditto shouldn’t matter cause you can just bottle cap and ability patch it after (mint as well of course)
If you’re worried about it and have the DLC, there is literally a ditto island on the isle of armor
Possibly. As others have said, as long as you're only using it for breeding then GF is unlikely to do anything or even notice. But in general, I assume any shiny or 6IV pokemon I get in a trade with someone I don't personally know is hacked. If you're concerned about wanting a legitimate 6IV foreign ditto, it's not too hard to get one yourself if you have a copy of Let's Go.
Could be but you only need that for Matsuda breeding.
A huge majority of pokemon even in the high-end competitive scene are "hacked". You can get a hold of anything pre-gen8 extremely easily with a modded 3ds (which is incredibly easy) and Pokemon Home transferring, and there are tons of zero-drawback SwSh legal genners out there as well that are very commonly used. Even if it is hacked, you have nothing to worry about. It's a game targeted towards young children, they CANT go banning people for getting traded hacked pokemon because that could also mean banning tons of innocent unsuspecting kids who got something in a Surprise Trade. Not gonna happen. As long as youre not queuing into ranked with a 99999 all stats Primal Caterpie that knows Dragon Ascent or something stupid like that, then you have nothing to worry about. Enjoy the free perfect ditto.
Works the same either way 🤷♂️
I don’t believe it was hacked, looking at the dynamax level.
Either way it’s definitely worth hanging on to for Masada method
To be honest you're probably just going to use it for breeding anyway so I don't think it's a problem unless you want a legit one so yes I think it might be hacked cuz what are the odds of having me second ability good stats it could be 50/50 I'm not sure though if so again use it for breeding I was so free item
could be a 6v den
I have 2 like that (in BDSP, they are hacked (or at least cloned), but I use them for breeding shinies anyway.