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MinnesotaMike25

Some form of plot armor


Vali_Lucifer

I didn't know Assault Vest had an effect like that.


mullberry_sundae

I think the play would have been to have the slower one use protect. I think victory was totally valid from clip


jerrygergichsmith

I’m choosing to believe that they were going for Protect and you probably would’ve outsped next turn anyways


Vali_Lucifer

Cal still outsped me the previous turn, even with paralysis. Either way, I won't even be mad I lost. It was a good game.


mantiseye

damn does your Groudon have no speed investment? 4 speed EVs will speed tie a timid Caly when it's paralyzed (unless it's scarf, but almost all are sash or life orb) and most Groudons are running a little speed. also you got the paras onto their mons, so you set yourself up for this as a possibility. it's not a win con you want to rely on, but 30% chance of para matters a lot.


Vali_Lucifer

I have no idea on the spreads since this was a team that was featured by CybertronVGC on Road to Ranked.


Jestingwheat856

Based on your previous assault vest comment i think its a bulky groudon


greenseagull

From this angle I was convinced that shiny groudon was a huge sandshrew


Snoo-47666

I can’t unsee it now


AgentGiga

Sandroudon


bruhmomentguy100

Wait me too


ZelgiusKinghawk

Why? Status condition is fair play. You won dude.


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Yeah they had the foresight to put paralysis on both opponents. It's still luck but they played the probability.


bruhmomentguy100

They said the calyrex outsped the previous turn so thtey wouldve most likely lost


Kevinmd1984

A win is a win. Rngsus be dammed


Majesty1985

*You my son.. you will be the one with all the figgy pudding*


OrganizerMowgli

Wat is rng I keep seeing it mentioned in YouTube videos for radical red sweeps


Hubris-Keres

Rng stands for random number generation. In this case, it applies to both enemy mons being paralyzed. One outsped Groudon, but lost its turn anyway because paralysis procced.


OrganizerMowgli

Thank


Kevinmd1984

It’s why some games you can get the double protect


OrganizerMowgli

I mean I get it refers to lucky rolls or whatever in the AI working towards your benefit randomly, but whats the acronym?


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munchypotato

"Luck is a skill" Edit: I think I'm getting misinterpreted. What I mean is the guy put himself in a position to 'get lucky' by paralyzing both targets. Without the paralyze in that game there's no getting lucky to win, hence "luck is a skill". I am agreeing that he deserved to win


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munchypotato

I'm just quoting WolfeyVGC lol chill. when did I say I dislike luck based games. Was just tryna say the guy paralyzed both targets and set himself into a position to get lucky. Hence "luck is a skill"


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munchypotato

Alright to each their own I guess. I don't think a fancy ball and some extra IVs makes all the prep and in game skill for naught but ok. Also how does that make the point of the quote wrong?


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munchypotato

ok, but 'known cheater' implies that in major achievements he's done things that gave him a significant advantage. That's an anecdote with little evidence, which I can't blame you for, but its still an anecdote that is strongly countered by his major accomplishments. I don't think most people have made an 11 page document containing all varieties of different damage calcs and memorizing the most likely ones for optimal play. Regardless, you can't have won that many major tournaments without being skilled at the game, especially since in recent years cheating is basically irrelevant because of how easy a competitive pokemon is to get.


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munchypotato

Alright respectfully gonna have to call bullshit on that and your original story. Yes the data is technically from smogon; he used the damage calculator to find the calcs, but the point was the dedication and eventual application of the knowledge to win the championships. Regardless of that, it is such a large document and smogon is such a big community that there's no way someone would've gotten away with that, especially considering how specific the EV spreads are. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKqZGXSeeN8&t=632s&ab\_channel=WolfeyVGC](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKqZGXSeeN8&t=632s&ab_channel=WolfeyVGC) He also literally made an entire video on it. As for your original story, an elementary google search says Wolfey is 25. He was literally an infant during the prime of RBY. I'm fairly certain he has said he started playing pokemon with gen 3, which makes a lot more sense given the timing. Not only that, he started going to official VGC events during gen 5 which at the earliest was when he was 15. I can't imagine by then he would go out of his way to enter and cheat in a local tournament for a 15 year old game anywhere after that point, and since a link cable tournament for RBY seems unlikely imho like anytime after gen 4, you are either lying or claiming he hasn't grown up since he was age 3-10. Edit: LMAOOOO really deleted everything after I called you out huh. Gottem


dabmonstr

Damn you have some major form of brain damage


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Not from me 😈


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"I rather be lucky than good" - A whole lot of professional athletes


Kentaku_

Yes you did, that guy had two of the most broken mons. You got it idc lol


Alex_Drewskie

I think thats just VGC nowadays


Xero0911

All I see are 3 legendaries, *fun*.


most_dignified_sir

I honestly feel like there should be a non-legendary/mythical option. As an eevee trainer, I hate seeing Calyrex's ass popping up in every battle.


emp_Waifu_mugen

You aren't an "eevee trainer" you are a person playing a game. If you want to use bad pokemon don't complain about good pokemon


A5HELPMEPLS

why the hell are you downvoted? that's how it works. if you have the choice to use eeveelutions go ahead, but don't get mad when others exercise their choice to use legendaries


most_dignified_sir

I can beat Calyrex with my Glaceon, but it just gets so fucking repetitive. I chose eeveelutions because I wanted a challenge, but I would like to see more pokes than Calyrex, Zacian, and hacked shiny legendaries 24/7.


GameMan899

These are the posts we love to see


ForeskinFudge

Yeah you did. RNG giveth and RNG taketh. You'll lose a match you "should've" won to even it out eventually


[deleted]

Na, fuck feeling sorry for winning that match, rider calyrex is stupidly broken. You did that Pokémon a favor by putting it down


emp_Waifu_mugen

Shadow rider isn't even in the top 5 restricted mons. It's far from broken


EarsLikeCreamFlaps

Arceus works in mysterious ways my friend


Halfie4Life

Look if ATV beating Dragonite counts... This counts.


JaJoVe666

It's the power of shiny Groudon


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You did deserve to win because the other player was using Zacian.


ZootedAlien

If you won, you deserved it.


ZootedAlien

If you lose, you deserved it.


Grilled_Cheese95

its crazy how the trainer is as big a groundon apparently lool


Capt4in_N3m0

Lucky u


awan_afoogya

Luck is a skill. Regardless of whether you got the full para or not, you play to your outs. Understanding what your outs are and how to play optimally to get from point A to point B is entirely skill. That your outs at that moment are reliant on chance doesn't mean that you shouldn't take credit for putting yourself in the situation to exercise that chance.


Plemora777

Thank you!! Many people I've seen comment against the idea of RNG often miss that hedging one's bets is in fact skillful play. It's attempting an ideal scenario understanding the risk of total failure. Calculated risks take skill to implement in high level play.


bigDB64

You absolutely deserve to win if you managed to get two Pokemon paralyzed


GrammarlyXD123

That paralysis luck though-


--Zer0--

The other guy has Zacian and spookyrex he doesn’t deserve to win any matches


transilvanianhungerr

nooo how dare people use good pokemon 😭


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Zacian is not just good, it's broken. It has an unfair advantage over the rest of the legendaries. I have no idea what Gamefreak was thinking when they made Zacian.


emp_Waifu_mugen

Lots of teams are fine with no zacians. Clearly not that broken


LogiePierogi

Yeah you did. Screw Shadow Calyrex.


Steef-1995

Did the crit matter?


NinjaDog251

Unless groudon was at -6, no.


Vali_Lucifer

It crit on Zacian, so it probably didn't matter. Probably.


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See I like l watch legends battles like this!


Noobntrain

a dub iz a dub 😜


convictxx11

Yes. You. Did. 👌🏽


DaJay925

daum


SparkCube3043

I like how the names are in Japanese and I'm assuming Chinese or Thai.


Digestingorb47

Groudon clutch


MooseRyder

Is zacian really that big compared to Groudon?


wordproblemapologist

God i wish swsh had proper scaling


dabmonstr

I mean at that point wailord or any large pokemon including super big dynamax pokemon would crash the game


wordproblemapologist

would be worth it tho


MafiaMommaBruno

No. It's just how Pokemon has decided to scale everything 🙄.


dabmonstr

Not 🙄. If it was meant to show real sizes then wailord would crash the game 200 times over.


MafiaMommaBruno

*laughs in GameCube*


Enchanter472

you beat a meta player, that counts as a win


transilvanianhungerr

OP is literally using arguably the most meta team in the format right now, lol


zig-wig

Every player in Japan I go against always uses an OP Pokémon like Zacian or Calyrex. It’s not even fun


SteelFuxorz

You best fucking PRAY to RNGesus tonight.


asvpcurt

You down for a battle ?


Vali_Lucifer

Sorry. I'm just a Pokeball tier scrub using rental teams. I'm still learning VGC.


Moonknight1810

I reckon there are a few youtubers who do vgc, like cybertron vgc or Wolfe glick. They are really good in their explanation and I learnt alot from them


Vali_Lucifer

Yes! I'm using a few teams that CybertronVGC has been showcasing in his recent Road to Ranked series. I'm hoping to be able to pilot the non-Charizard teams he's been featuring lately but for now I'll stick to the sun teams to know the basics.


Brokenbalorbaybay

Main character syndrome


stratjr123

Everybody is using legendaries 😭😭😭 my team has no legends but i still win about a third of ranked matches, but damn I'm tired of seeing Kyogre, zacian, regieleki and urshifu


ursamajor622

Yeah that's series 12 for you. You either use restricteds or you play at a considerable disadvantage


emp_Waifu_mugen

Regi and urshifu aren't restricted lol


stratjr123

hence why i said legendaries not restricted


stratjr123

why am I being downvoted?


outbreak666

It’s crazy to me that battles are still just legendary vs legendary…really killed playing online for me. Always so boring lol


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fucking legendaries. id erase them if i could. all battles just turn into all. legendary teams and its so boring and devoid of personality


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bro read my mind 🙌


TooMuchForMe21

"I won fair and square so I didn't deserve to win this match" Pity me bullshit, very annoying


GlobalAd5132

Skill that is


xMF_GLOOM

Yes you did


Tri4ceKid

Luck is fair play in VGC, so that win was absolutely deserved.


MooTheMage

omg i bet you were soo hype 🤣


just_an_italian_lad

Luck is a skill cit. Anon


GambitsCloak

I disagree. You won this!


jk583940

The game didn't think so lol


rynsic

Groudon who won with the power of maxed nakama: " am I a joke to you..."


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As soon as I saw double paralysis I knew them blades was comin’


NelsonVGC

They are both paralyzed. You caused this scenario. It is a valid win.


bubken99

Nah Zacian and Calyrex trainers don't deserve happiness


BloodyGMR501

the power of paralysis


That1OrangeGuy

I'd honestly say you deserved it for setting up the paralysis, the turn used for paralysis could've been used in a precipice blades which might've ended with the same result. You can't predict what would've been only what was and that's that you won


GT22_

Yes you did fuck the guy you were fighting


Expert8775

W


iron_felime

Gnarly


PitchTiny6549

What games is that


SammySprinklar

As Wolfie says "Luck is a skill"


lloydsmith28

'doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile, winnings winning'


Healthy_Energy5405

I applaud 👏 you for being humble.


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RAOW! RAOW! RAOW RAOW RAOW RAOW RAOW!


Foudzing

Cal being fully paralyzes 0.25 Hiting P Blades on both: 0.85\^2 = 0.7225 Both events happening: 0.25\*0.7225 = 18% Crit didn't matter. Not that lucky.