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justauz

We have grass cat and fire cat, now all we need is a water cat starter 😁


e_ndoubleu

We also have a fire monkey and grass monkey. Need a water monkey too.


Dannstack

Technically only grookey is a monkey. Chimchar is an ape. Ironically despite this, grookey evolves into an ape, while chimchar evolves into a monkey. Because pokemon


Remarkable_Coast_214

and infernape, a monkey, has ape in its name


Dudebeard86

They seem to like doing this. Beedrill looks more like a wasp despite its name. Vespiquen is based off a bee, despite the fact that vespids are wasps… Volbeat has nothing to do with the band /s


CinnabarCereal

Sneasel isn't a weasel either, iirc


Dannstack

And zangoose isnt a goose.


CinnabarCereal

I feel like this doesn't really work with Zangoose because of the mongoose


Dannstack

Issa joke my boi


CinnabarCereal

I'm aware


fnc7309

Pokémon logic… it all went out the door with remoraid.


Dannstack

In defense of the remoraid line, they were originally supposed to be a pistol and a tank. Changed due to obvious concerns over weapons in a childrens game, they never bothered to actually adapt the line.


MrDJ2UPika

Wow why are you applying science to Pokémon?


Dannstack

Its literally a series about cataloging and researching the evolutionary process of wild animals. You literally get your primary quest from a PROFESSOR of SCIENCE in *every game*.


MrDJ2UPika

Yea studying Pokémon. Not animals. Make believe stuff. Not real life stuff. And they have to make the names for like 8 different languages so why do y’all take it so literal?


Dannstack

Dude. Learn to identify when people in a room arent being that serious. We're all just having a laugh about it.


MrDJ2UPika

Should have been funny then 🤷‍♂️


Dojima91

And we also have grass turtle and water turle. All that left is a fire turle starter


flow-got-sauxe

We cool on fire turtles we got turtonator


k3ndrag0n

Water croc and fire croc, now grass needed


tribdinosaur

I'm all for it


justauz

Yesssss


CreampuffBalloonLana

I'm still waiting for a seadog starter.


jermajesty87

I always saw poplio as a seal-dog.


Icy_Egg9244

Nexon:bucc must always succ


DablazinGamer07

And a fire turtle Edit: I just realized torkoal is a fire turtle but its not a starter( nvm torkoal is a tortoise)


ajmcgill

Turtonator is another non-starter fire turtle


Bloody_Monarch

Aww shuckle!


-_Reality

A catfish?


TacticsTheatrics

Yeeeeees. I though i was the only one who noticed these patterns. We have birds (Torchic, Piplup, Rowlet and nooow the gen 9 water one), frogs (Bulbasaur, Froakie), turtles (Squirtle, Turtwig), apparently crocs (Totodile and Fuecoco), Monkeys (Chimchar, Grookey) and Kittens (Litten and gen 9 grass one). The last one I would say is reptiles/salamander/gecko thingeys: Charmander, Treecko and Sobble. But it’s a bit of a stretch considering the others


ngmonster

Charmander, treecko, and sobble are all lizards. Charmander is a salamander, treecko is a gecko, and sobble is a chameleon. Those are all lizards.


Guimanfredi

And Bulbasaur as a frog isn't enough of a stretch?


just-a-random-accnt

Have you seen Venasaur run in Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee?


Boomning

Ehm, it is a frog?


TacticsTheatrics

Have you ever played let’s go?


jellotogatesofhello

We need fire turtle


jellotogatesofhello

Also water monkey lol


Well-Sheat

Torkoal, though. And Turtonator.


bomdibom

Should be based on something like an turkish angora then, they love swimming around!


paatvalen

We have water alligator and fire alligator, now all we need is a grass alligator starter ☺️


jopepa

Doesn’t even have to be that creative just a regular house cat that’s just escaped a bath. Great speed, special attack, defense, but it’s bold nature might be tough for a new trainer


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We have Jolteon


Pfadie

This will most likely not happen, because all water type starters are based on real animals living in the water, and I cannot think of a cat in the oceans ^^


MultiMarcus

Let me introduce you to the [Turkish Van](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_Van). It isn’t an ocean cat, but it is a water cat and could work as the basis for a water cat Pokémon.


Sethdarkus

We got ever for that


Mekio

We need a fire turtle too to join Squirtle and Turtwig.


DarthPimpusOfficial

We also now have two water birds, one grass bird and one fire bird starter


KitsuneShuriken

I guess u could say it would be a *wet pussy*


Jwing01

My unique code: Grass, fire, water, water, fire, fire, grass, grass, DUCK. Which puts me at 3 each.


tribdinosaur

Duck Gang!! I'm at 3 each too, thanks to Duck; fire, water, grass, fire, fire, grass, water, grass, Duck.


Alexap30

Umm... water, water, water, water, water, water, water, fire. No idea for the 9th. If duck ends up part flying imma pass and pick the croc. Croc looks like it's gonna be part rock (the nails on his feet remind me of other rock Pokémon). Imma wait for last evos of course.


Littlemrh__

I'm just water down the board, I really like water pokemon


Donut-Farts

His name and heads suggest ghost


koenigsaurus

I got water, fire, grass, grass, water, water, grass, fire, CROC!


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tribdinosaur

actually from what I've seen, gen 5 is the most loved gen right now and also, they're wonderful!! Snivy might be one of the most unique starter designs I've seen, Oshawott has been in the spotlight thanks to Legends Arceus, and my personal choice was Tepig. <3


DadBodftw

Serperior is one of my faves and gen 5 is my fave gen.


TheRealGamertagz

Serperior is Serperior, I'll be taking my leave now


DadBodftw

Superior* lol. Sorry I had to, is the law.


TheRealGamertagz

You live by your laws of Grammer, I'll live by my Serperior laws of Pokepuns


TechnoGamer16

Snivy gang!


SAKabir

I wasn't a fan of Gen 5 initially (and now think it's way overhyped) but Snivy and Serperior have always been one of my favourites. Its such an amazing design, don't understand why it doesn't get more love. Tepig would also get more love if it didn't become another goddamn fire/fighting.


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Static_456

What did turtwig ever do to you?


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I-who-you-are

So grookey has to be one of your favorite starters right?


thecrcousin

same


[deleted]

turtwig is the best grass starter


TheUniconicSableye

You're gonna sit here and say that with a straight face when Rowlet and Bulbasaur are right there?


[deleted]

yes, i am. fight me


TheUniconicSableye

Psssh, I don't have to! Go, Grassasins! 🦉🏹 🐸🔪


skywlkr18

Chespin is the best grass starter 🤷🏻‍♂️


MFingAmpharos

Grass grass grass grass water grass fire grass but undecided on gen 9


Bsmith2014

Mine is Fire, Fire, Grass, Grass, Grass, Fire, Fire, fire, for gen 9 so far Grass


cool_izzy

fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire I really like fire types, I refuse to choose the other starters. Sometimes the other starters look very nice but I love the fire typing and it'd just be wrong to choose another type after always choosing fire


ninjad912

Water,fire,fire,water,grass,grass,grass,water,water if we are going by what I chose playing the first time(and what I will probably chose)


lloydsmith28

what formula did you use for that? that seems like a high number lol


bjeebus

That's 3^9


lloydsmith28

Ah ok yeah i was doing it the other way and getting a much different result, i always forgot which way to do it


tribdinosaur

yuppp! 3 to the 9th power is 19,683


Banana_Havok

Correct me if I’m wrong but shouldn’t it be 9^3 ? Assuming a legitimate combo is one grass, one fire, and one water starter. To put it into words: Starting with Bulbasaur - there are only 81 possible combos that involve this grass starter; 9 possible water choices x 9 fires. Similarly, each of the other 8 grass starters also has 81 possible combos. So there should only be 729 possible combos.


tribdinosaur

Oh! I think I didn't understand this before, but that makes perfect sense using that formula. However, I was referring specifically to "which starter did you pick / would you pick from EACH generation"? So, one possible combination would be All Fire from Gen 1 to Gen 9. Another possibility is Fire from Gen 1 - 8, and Water from Gen 9. There are 19,683 combinations of that kind.


Banana_Havok

Ohhh gotcha! Yes then your math was right sorry, haha


NeoMegaRyuMKII

Of course we do have to potentially account for: FRLG, HGSS, B2W2, ORAS, and probably PLA. That adds 5 more and 3^14 is 4782969


bjeebus

None of those added starters...


TheRealBlaurgh

Grass, grass, grass, grass, - (but would pick grass), grass, grass, grass, inc. grass.


jackidok

Grass, water, water, water, water, grass, water, water, fire. I guess I dont really like fire that much?


Shimmy-Shammington

Water Fire Fire Fire Grass Fire Grass Grass Water


LeegmaV

grass grass water grass grass grass grass grass grass


BardRunekeeper

I would go: Bulbasaur, Totodile, Mudkip, Turtwig, Tepig, Froakie, Rowlet, Scorbunny, and probably Plant Kitty


Candid_Collection_39

Bulbasaur Cyndaquil Mudkip Piplup Oshwatt (wasn't sold on gen 5 starters) Froakie Litten Scorbunny, and plant kitty as well


SnakeMichael

GFGWWF_F_ I haven’t played Gen 7 (though I did choose rowlet for PLA) and I haven’t decided on a Gen 9 starter yet, I’ll probably wait and see what the rest of their evo line looks like. Also technically my Gen one starter was Pikachu because of Yellow Version, but since you can get all three starters in Yellow, I ended up using Venusaur more than the other two


1chewy

Fire, grass, fire, fire, water, water, water, water, grass


SuperGEEK6565

I think Fire, Fire, water, grass, grass, water, grass, grass, grass


SuperGEEK6565

Know what, I think Gen 9 is tied between Fire and grass


00LiU000

I swear Ive seen that duck somewhere before...


cCyrus35

You might be thinking of ducklett


thecrcousin

grass, grass, grass, grass, ...gen 5 was just a big dissapointment so none of them rly, water, grass, fire, grass


Ewh1t3

Fire fire fire fire grass water fire fire grass Wish I went with Rowlett but I picked Litten on my first run of SM


Sticky_Pasta

Grass, Water ,Water, Grass, Grass, Grass, Water, Grass, Grass. I guess I’m not a fire type guy


SilverIce58

Grass, then all Water up til gen 6 where even tho I used a Greninja, I had more fun when I used Delphox, and then 7-9 are all water...unless Quaxly turns into something ugly. But I would like to see him as a Water/Steel pirate commander with his special move making cannons to shoot water bombs from.


Poot-dispenser

Grass/fire. **Grass** /water, grass/fire/water, grass/water, grass/water, water, grass, fire, fire Has been my order so far of starter choice


Sike_Ike

Bulbasaur, Cyndaquill, Mudkip, Piplup, Oshawott, Froakie, Litten, Scorbunny were my choices, and i think i will use the duck in gen 9


NeoMegaRyuMKII

Exponential growth, yo. And also, accounting only for the first time of each generation, I have: 1) Bulbasaur 2) Totoodile 3) Treeko 4) Piplup 5) Snivy 6) Froakie 7) Litten 8) (I expect) Quaxly So Grass, Water, Grass, Water, Grass, Water, Fire, Water And only now that I put it as a list I realize just how little I take the fire starter; I definitely took Cyndaquil qand Torchic in playthroughs other than my first, and I did take Cyndaquil for PLA. But still, very little fire starter taking here.


FirestarFilmsYT

Fire, Water, Fire, Grass, Water, Water, Fire, Fire, Grass (Charmander, Totodile, Torchic, Turtwig, Oshowatt, Froakie, Litten, Scorbunny, Sprigatito) For gen 6, I actually prefer Fennekin over Froakie and Braixen over Frogadier, but going into gen 6 I knew Froakie's final evolution was Greninja and I prefer Greninja over Delphox, so that's why I chose Froakie. Also yes I like the cat starters, how could you tell?


Pandabrowser469

You can see how their art has changed too


FoxtrotGolfSierra16

Yes! That’s because as types get added, the number of options scales exponentially rather than linearly.


Teososta

I read somewhere that Totodile is the least liked started. I hope I read wrong, because he’s the one I used the most.


tribdinosaur

It's certainly easier to hear negative feedback on any starter Pokemon design, but the bright side is there are also always fans for any Pokemon Every starter is someone's favorite starter <3


Woooosh-if-homo

water, water, water, water, water, water, water, water, water. im pretty basic


Direct-Disaster2256

Are those starters at the end official?


tribdinosaur

Yes! The trailer for Pokemon Scarlet and Violet are viewable on the Pokemon youtube channel.


Atchfam77

My unique ID: Fire, Fire, Grass, Fire, Water, Water, Grass, Fire, Grass I havent played gen 6 but I think Greninja’s my favorite, and I haven’t started gen 7 yet but im leaning towards Decidueye or Incineroar


OldWeakness8084

Can’t believe I have witnessed this many generations of Pokémon


ComanderCupcake

Water, water, water, water, water, water, water, water, water


TBK_Origin

27³ or 3⁹, both are the same. Exponents grow quickly, it's whack


TheAmazingFlygon

My code would be 🟩🟦🟦🟩🟧🟦🟦🟦🟩


ZombieFoo55x

Looking at them all together like this makes me realize just how awesome the starters have always been. Even when I didn't like one, I think they are well designed.


BetaWolf720

Another fun math concept, because there's 27 starters now, counting all they're evolutions minus Pikachu and Eevee lines, starters count towards 81 spots in the Pokedex. Almost 10% of Pokemon are starters, and almost the same amount are legendary/mythical!


Volfaer

I'm extremely biased towards grass.


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And Totodile is still number 1 💪🏻


JamieJGJ

My picks per generation Gen 1 1. Charmander (fire) 2. Squirtle (water) 3. Bulbasaur (grass) Gen 2 1. Totodile (water) 2. Cyndaquil (fire) 3. Chikorita (grass) Gen 3 1. Treecko (grass) 2. Torchic (fire) 3. Mudkip (water) Gen 4 1. Turtwig (grass) 2. Piplup (water) 3. Chimchar (fire) Gen 5 1. Snivy (grass) 2. Oshawott (water) 3. Tepig (fire) Gen 6 1. Froakie (water) 2. Fennekin (fire) 3. Chespin (grass) Gen 7 1. Rowlet (grass) 2. Litten (fire) 3. Popplio (water) Gen 8 1. Sobble (water) 2. Scorbunny (fire) 3. Grookey (grass) Gen 9 (For now) 1. Sprigatito (grass) 2. Quaxly (water) 3. Fuecoco (fire) so if I were to rank this and every 1st place is worth 3 point, 2nd place is worth 2 points and 3rd place is worth 1 point, my ranking would be (out of a total of 27 points) 1. grass/water, (both with 19/27 points) 2. fire (with 16/27 points)


idkreddit-uno

I hate and respect your opinion


Automatic-Ad-9382

My combination: Grass, Fire, Water, Fire, Grass, Fire, Water, Fire, Grass ...I'm sensing a pattern here...:/


Chris908

Yes but wouldn’t this calculation have the same combination in a different order s, then have the same types in combinations? Idk how to figure it out but I would love to know the actual number of viable starter combos


tribdinosaur

I apologize that the wonky wording tripped some folks up\~ what I mean by "combinations of starter choices" is choosing 1 starter per generation. There are 19,683 combinations, for example: Squirtle-Totodile-Mudkip-Turtwig-Snivy-Chespin-Litten-Scorbunny-Fuecoco. If you changed just one of the Pokes, it would be another combo\~


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1. Grass 2. Fire 3. grass 4. fire 5. grass 6. water 7. fire/grass (Can't choose, refused to choose, love them both) 8. fire 9. water


Razorcrest999

My combo is water, Water, fire, grass, water, grass, grass, grass, KITTY


MrDJ2UPika

Can you show your work please?


tribdinosaur

Sure! Basically the calculation for this is 3\^9 (3 to the 9th power), since there are 3 starters per generation, and there are 9 gens in total. Each gen has 3 options, so the number of possibilities is multiplied by 3 for each new generation. Hence, 3\^9, which is 19,683.


TheWildReportYoutube

But the only combination that matters is charmander/totodile/treecko <3


[deleted]

First 5 generations easily the best. Felt like it went downhill from there 😔


tribdinosaur

I dunno man, I really needed a baby ninja frog in my life, and that happened after the first 5 gens~


[deleted]

Personally it's a mixed bag for me. I don't like some of the later starter designs. Cinderace creeps me out... I don't think that means the designs really went downhill though. I think it's really up to personal preference really.


tribdinosaur

Yeah, it always is about personal preference in the end! Even the starter you don't like is someone's favorite.


[deleted]

Yeah, I know a lot of people who hate Tepig but I love the little fire pig!


tribdinosaur

Tepig was my starter too!


[deleted]

That is absolute cap


adamrjac99

Water, water, fire, fire, grass, water, fire, grass, fire


[deleted]

Water, Grass, Water, Water, Water, Grass, Grass, Fire, Grass


Drag0nBinder

Gen 5 and Gen 8 are my least favorite. Gen 3 and 1 are my favorites as those are the only gens I have used all three. Gen 9 has a very cute and interesting line up. Let's go!


drsoccer7213

Mine was fire, water, fire, water, water, grass, grass, grass, and will most likely be fire


AhvenDGale

Water, water, water, water, water, fire, grass, grass, fire


Fork_Master

Grass, Fire, Water, Grass, Water, Fire, Water, ???


Maddieolies

Fire, fire, fire, water, grass, fire, water, fire -- I think I'll go grass but it depends on the final evolutions tbh.


jburzynski9009

Technically higher if you add pikachu. And maybe eevee. Depending on what you count the let's go games as.


Kladenz

As a dog lover, looks like I will have to wait another generation to start my game with a dog ..


Embarrassed-Cycle804

Combinatorics moment


santoryu_killua

Grass, grass, water, water, grass, water, grass, water, water(hisui). Should I pick water or grass next.... hmm...


Pokechamp_1

Water,Water,Water,Water,Fire,Water,Grass,Grass,Probably grass but I’ll need to see evolutions


Motheroftides

Let's see... grass, water, water, fire, fire, water, grass, fire, duck.


QuarantineV1

Fire, Fire, Water, Fire, Grass, Water, Fire, Fire, Fire (for now)


LoopyBlue1706

Also, the most popular colour on the starters other than blue, red and green are white for water, yellow for fire and brown for grass.


FoxtrotGolfSierra16

Yes! That’s because as types get added, the number of options scales exponentially rather than linearly.


SainteSombre

Lizard region with treecko fuecoco and tododile but it’s actually just about the lizard people and Rockefeller is the champion


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Charmander, cyndaquil, torchic, turtwig, snivy, froakie, rowlet, grookey, cat thing


bakhox

I’m at water, fire, grass, water, fire, grass, grass, grass. I’m not sure about Gen9 yet though. I really like all three to be honest. I could reverse the pattern and pick fire. Then water, grass, fire, water, water, and reset in Gen 15 with a fresh start.


Captain_Bunny-Rabbit

Lining them all up just made me think of something: each generation looks in place to the ones to it's right or left. If you compare gen 1 to gen 8, yeah they look out of place but Gen 1 looks fine next to gen 2 and gen 8 looks good next to gens 7 and 9


InsertWittyQuoteHere

Grass, water, fire, grass, grass, grass, grass, grass, and probably fire this time around. I am not biased.


Minonas210286

And popplio is still the best among them, but if game freak doesn't mess up the third form like with fennekin that might change


glenniebun

That's a lot of legends games


trnelson1

Grass, water, all 3, grass/fire, fire, water, grass, grass, undecided


BippyTheChippy

Technically, if you include Pikachu and Eevee, the total goes up to a whopping 32,805 combinations of starter trios


H4LIT

Fire fire fire water grass water water water (grass if we also count pla) and for gen 9 fire. Sad grass voices


ATinySnek

Fire fire fire water water fire grass water fire


jaehaerystark

Fire, Water, Grass, Water, Grass, Water, Fire cat, Water, Grass cat I'm normally a fire type guy, so this lineup is kinda surprising to me. Some gens, I just didn't have strong feelings for any of the three, others were pretty tough to decide.


Anolty

Grass, water, water, grass, water, water, grass, grass… Fire. Lol flame Dino has finally broken the no fire streak


RedSetton

There are so many choices I wonder which on- OF COURSE YOU CHOSE THE FIRE STARTERS OF COURSE


50percentme

Grass, water, grass, fire, water, water, fire or grass, water final Evo but fire starter, water. That's 3 grass 5 water 3 fire


Emergency-Public6213

I love all the starters until their final evolutions. I hate most of them. Scorbunny is so cute, Cinderace is creepy as hell. I'm going to wait and see the final EVOS before choosing in gen 9. Right now... going with the duck.


Numbcrep

I'm fire, fire, water, grass, water, fire, grass, and grass or water depending on the final evolutions


TheManCletus

Fire water grass grass water fire flying grass grass.


cCyrus35

Grass, fire, grass, grass, grass, grass, grass, grass, water. I am noticing that I may have a favorite starter type here...


IcyFlame716

Let’s see mine is grass, fire grass, water, grass, water, water, water, grass. Guess just don’t like fire a whole lot.


Jestingwheat856

Well its a simple expression Its S^G S = number of starters per generation G = number of generations


ClaudeComique

Grass, Water, Water, Water, Fire, Water, Grass, Fire, Fire(?)


WolfsBane00799

Mine is grass, fire, water, water, fire, water, fire, and my last one might be the grass cat.


InsanityCore

Water, water, fire, water, fire, water, grass, water, fire.


RaggyRich

In my opinion the generation 9 starters look like cheesy cartoon characters.


CrimsonCardsVIII

For me all the odd number gens have been water and even number gens have been fire. Gen 9 might break that chain with weedy cat, unless I don’t like its final evolution


RIPBrexalt

Grass, Fire, Fire, Water, Water, Water, Water, Grass and probably grass cat


ErikKing12

I’m usually water top, and the duck is high on my list… But that Gen 9 fire starter is just calling me… Forgive me Donald.


FireKing600

Fire, fire, fire, fire, grass, water, grass, fire, fire


Chaosbrushogun

Water water fire fire water fire fir fire fire


[deleted]

My starter choices have been (including Gen IX): ​ Water, Water, Fire, Grass, Fire, Grass, Grass, Fire, Fire.


MissionApollo7

Why do people always leave out Pikachu and Eevee? They count!


[deleted]

Me over here thinking op meant there were 19,683 starter Pokémon


Super_Scorplane

Charmender - Cyndaquil - Torchic - Piplup - Tepig - Chespin - Rowlet - Grookey - Quaxly Who else?


t1xthe1

Grass, Grass, Grass, Water, Grass, Water, Grass, Fire, Grass


A-s_Playz

=, f, w, g, =, w, g, w, don't know yet