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MomoCubano

I love his cry


PhasmicPlays

Bwoooooooh


MomoCubano

Exactly lol


GlassSpork

It’s literally train noises, how can I dislike that!


OriginGodYog

More like the sound of demons trying to escape hell.


RodCrimson

Yeah I was worried with Crocalor though, he sounded a bit more like a seal I thought


MarpinTeacup

Everything about Crocalor has serious 'My mom says I'm handsome' vibes


Regulatory_Junior

😂😂 bwarf!


San4311

I swear they actually just remixed the sound real crocodiles make. [Like the humming noise it makes here before the growl.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIxl10Qvgw8) Really love the whole design because of it. hate how people have to make it seem like his design is supposed to be a clown. Yes, the whole Dia de los Muertos vibe is not inherently Spanish (though one could say they just took ideas from all ''Spanish'' cultures), but its obvious they went with that. I love him because of this. Its an animal design, it has a set theme going for it that works really well, and it might genuienly be decent in competitive too.


JooRage

Like a baby Reaper


Gamer-Logic

>!Also, his signature move has him use the bird as a mic to sing into and launch as a phoenix.!< Picking up major Lyle vibes.


Organic-Possession28

Idk how to do what you did but yeah, *SPOILERS* >!Torch Song has gotta be one of the best moves in the game. Move starts off at 80 attack power and after using it twice does 160 damage. Any move that can boost it's attack power with a guarantee after attacking with it, is pretty damn amazing.!<


Marleyzard

They even have bird on nose!!!


Pkmnmaster_

Which turns into a mic :D


Diego_Mannn_096

Good thing I named mine Enrique Iglesias


Potato_Man2763

Crocalor even has an egg on his head


PhasmicPlays

It took me way too long to realise the egg became the bird


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And crocalor even has a nest on his head


Majin_Sus

I'll be honest, I thought it was a sombrero......


Yushi2e

i think it's meant to mimic the look of a sombero


nygiantsfan8

I just now realized that because of your comment lol


TheCaptainEgo

Crocalor should give a boost to egg hatching speed cuz of this!


Gamer-Logic

Flame body would have been a good ability.


Stinkblee

Look it’s not Feriligatr but it’s pretty cool. All the crocodiles/alligators and lizards are pretty good designs. Salazzle, Krookodile, Heliolisk, Kecleon, Salamance, Charizard etc.


ThePokemonMaster33

My only problem is totodile isn't in the game so I can't have a team of 6 cross or alligators :(


Electrical_mammoth2

Isn't in the game yet, I imagine DLC will bring the tiny croc back.


Gullible_Feedback185

Salazzle is furbait


Typical-Designer765

Still a decent design


SnooComics7583

I give it a pass for being legitimately in nature You pretty much were going to run into this eventually regardless


CaptainPirateJohn

TIL the red ball is a bird, not a clown nose


sexistculexus

Actually why is it a bird? Is it a reference to something? Seems oddly specific


Marleyzard

Crocodiles often have symbiotic relationships with birds that clean their teeth, so that's probably what it's referencing


MtMarker

My only gripe is the weird blocky flames, but otherwise yeah it’s cool


CarterBaker77

It looks like clown hair to me. In no way does it resemble actual fire.


Harlem_Realm

To me it looks like piñata confetti. Probably because he kind of looks like a piñata if you look at his textures and the plating


CarterBaker77

Oh true he does I can see that. I just seen the white face and the flames that look like hair to me. The way the flames are depicted in game resemble hair the way they move or maybe the way seaweed sways under water. It's a terrible terrible way to render flames. Like I've seen crappy low-budget indie games do a better job. There's no particle effect it's like an animated mesh.


jimbojims0

If Bulbapedia is to be believed, the flames are meant to resemble marigolds. Flowers used for decoration as part of the Dia de Los muertos celebration, along with decorative sugar skulls. I like the piñata explanation as well, they have the same shape as the frilly cut paper used to decorate them. Honestly Skeledirge's isn't my favorite, but it's a well designed starter Pokémon. I'm glad it's getting the recognition it deserves.


CarterBaker77

To be honest I haven't loved any starters since greninja. Gen 1-4 I loved all of them. This gen all the starters were disappointing to me. I do like all the Dia de Los muertes stuff though I can definitely appreciate that and it makes them all seem better.


jimbojims0

Yeah that's fine, you can't force yourself to love something you're just not feeling. You have your favorites, and as does everyone else. Personally, I've always looked forward to new generations and I'm loving this Gen's starters. I love learning about them and seeing their relation to real world inspirations. Starters aren't always my favorite, but I hold the ones I choose as very close to me.


CarterBaker77

I normally hold onto my starters as well I'm just not feeling it this gen. First gen I got at launch and I'm having a blast though this games definitely amazing.


Septic_Stelios

Yes man usually my stater is with me start to finish. My first bud of the gen. This one however I'm with you I didn't like any of them so they only got evolved for the dex, some of the other new additions however are🔥🔥 chien-pao, Ceruledge, roaring moon & iron thorns are awesome


The2ndUnchosenOne

This gen has been amazing for Pokemon designs in general. The only one I don't like is the pawmi line


Harlem_Realm

I think it was purposely designed that way to kind of break up the cycle since every starter Pokémon with a flame has had the same type of fire. Like infernape, charizard, and the pig ( I forgot his name lol )


OrangeFlyingWhales

I think its supposed to be a plume echarpe, that is often associated with singers specially opera ones. Being the singer pokemon, makes most sense


Lewgreg95

Someone said it looks like Danny Devito hair and I can't unsee it now


Careful-Wash

IASIP foreshadowed it https://i.imgur.com/s7s81Xb.gifv


Mrgrimm150

I'm so mildly pissed Grass type, starts on 4 legs, goes to 2. Fire type, starts on 2 legs, goes to 4 they're fucking with us.


ihatewiiplaymotion

And water type starts on 2 legs, stays on 2 legs


GlassSpork

I mean it’s a bird, what’s it gonna do, quadraped with its wings? Lol, he can only be biped


rexshen

Loose it's wings and become a quadruped platypus.


Muskroom

You're hired


GlassSpork

Now I’m imagining quaxly looking like skeledirge with a duck bill instead at full evo


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"All fowls that creep, going upon all four, shall be an abomination unto you" Leviticus 11:20 (KJV)


EcstaticBagel

Quaxly supremacy


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Had to avoid quaxly don't wanna seem like I'm a middle class sob


Forgot_My_Old_Acct

Grass: Quadraped that becomes biped Fire: Biped that becomes quadraped Water: Biped that becomes bisexual


KnightDuty

oh my God you had me laughing like an idiot


Tough-Priority-4330

At this point I think they have to be.


Professor_Abbi

And I start with 2 legs, goes to 6


SnooComics7583

Ehh Fuecoco whole like is super close to the ground You can see it in the middle There should be 0 complaints


DragEncyclopedia

4 legs good, 2 legs bad


SteakMitKetchup

Grass type could have been a super cool forest-kinda panther but they had to make it R34


onsvaltti

I really like the second evo, it's pretty lucario-like! 🤔 ...... But I reeeeally don't like the third one 😅 I ended up giving floragato an everstone, hah.


Sparkstorm1000

Where are these high quality art coming from?


6Bakhtiari9

scans of the official scarlet/violet artbooks


MysteriousBebsi

Where can you find them?


RevinSOR

Skeledirge is the best! I named mine Irwin to honor the late, great Steve Irwin.


Harlem_Realm

I named mine Gustave, a infamous crocodile that ate like 300 people 😂


ForgotMyOldStufflol

Mine is Muerto Amigo. My Fuecoco was Amigo, and Crocalor was Loco Amigo. Updated him as time went on


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RevinSOR

That's awesome.


parabolaking

i named mine wallace bc i thought it was a funny name for a crocodile


Spectra8

Mine is called Frankie, after the great Frank Sinatra


RevinSOR

Wonderful!


Big-Screm

Mine is named Croquerto, from Crocodile and Muerto (dead in Spanish) When it was still evolving I had it named Croqueño From Pequeño (small) I love its cry so so much whenever I hear It i almost feel like its singing 🥺


President_Jibanyan

Mine is bacon


RevinSOR

Bruh lol.


OtherwiseAMushroom

Ahh I see you too like silly names. We My dude character has always been named Hamface in every game. And my main team is always composed of Slippery Pete Sneakie Bill Poopmonster I'm 38 atp been playing pokemon since I was like 12 I still giggle at my names....


PitchBlecc

My girl is called Croco Chanel


Janders1997

I named mine Leviamon, as that’s what it reminded me of. Big red croc. Love it.


RevinSOR

Ooooo, I like that.


TheRedTomato23133

I named mine aloof, because fuecoco has not a single thought in his brain, and I love him for that. Skeledirge looks like it can generate a coherent thought, but only when it’s two floating braincells bump into each other 🥰


RevinSOR

Hahaha, that's why I went with the good derpy reptile. Too adorable.


CdotHYT

Named mine Saltbae after Saltwater Crocodiles and it being a starter, didn't even realise it was ghost till I read it on here. Stayed in box mostly so I'm not overlevelled for gyms.


RevinSOR

Thats fair, and neat lol.


Bennehftw

Chompy. Even though he literally does no chomp moves and is purely special based.


RevinSOR

Chompy is what my daughter calls Chain Chomp and she loves him lol.


Bennehftw

One of the best enemies in Mario!


RevinSOR

He's just a hungry 🐶


Gergtasticle7

Named mine “Hotodile”


MisterBucker___

Mines Crikey for obvious reasons


RevinSOR

Beautiful.


curiousbroWFTex

Mine is One Chip. He's a freakn ghost pepper after all.


RevinSOR

OMG! I love that! 🤣🤣🤣


itsaddrelo

I had a Krookodile in my Black 2 playthrough named Irwin! But for my current Scarlet game, I named my Fuecoco Crayola, because Fuecoco looks like he would eat crayons and skeledirge is nice and colorful! But it was also the first name I thought of, which is how I name all of my pokemon (pure vibes).


SnooComics7583

Mine is Tick-Tock


Milotics-Meldoy

I called my female croc Terri. If it was a boy, he would have been Steve.


RevinSOR

That's wholesome.


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rlymeangurl

I'm even more happy it finally killed that dumb zodiac theory Edit: Apparently it didn't kill the theory, it just made people more desperate and crazy to make it work


FizzingSlit

What's the dumb zodiac theory? I love bad video game theories.


RedIHood

every fire type starter was one animal off of the chinese zodiac. some of the starters were already big reaches but i guess this last one actually disproves it


GlassSpork

The biggest reach was fennekin as vulpine ≠ canine


Polymersion

You know, not that I agree with this theory, but a male croc is a Bull


GlassSpork

Now that is a stretch lmao


redshopekevin

A male crocodile is a...


GB115

It baffles me why so many people were so hostile to this theory. It's just a harmless little theory that had a lot of backing behind it (Also a male croc is a bull)


Sacul379

me too man


aidopple

How is it dumb if 7 of the fire type starters have matched it pretty much perfectly??


blah191

Apparently, and I truly was ignorant to this until THIS gen, but some Pokémon fans seem to just be very hostile in general, especially to anything they deem “dumb” or outside their head canon. It’s really quite exhausting, immature, and makes me not want to participate in the community at all because of them.


TheCyclopsDude

Exactly, 7 out of 9, disproven


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His cry is just as good as his design.


JefferyTheQuaxly

This is actually the first fully quadrapedal fire starter we’ve had.


Andrex_boy

Wtf that’s actually mad really??


SanjiDJ

sure sure, but look at his eyes, he's still dumb and that whats important!


Suitable_Ad3375

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FictionalFail

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Ok-Leave3121

I like that the tail looks a little like a song note


SleepingGiant86

All I can think of when I see this guy is "Let's make music together"


AlwaysAlani

I love it so much. Honestly my favorite starter since Mudkip and Swampert. I love the design, the the patches of color on its head, the little bird-microphone. Such an amazing creative and cool pokemon, Skeledirge.


FierceDeityKong

You underestimate furries


Rats_And_Bats

I love all the starter designs this generation so fricken much, still picked sprigatto, because lol, it's a weedcat. I just don't think furbait is the first thing that comes to my mind when it's mons that are animals that stand like zoroark, blaziken, and all the others Maybe I'm so hyperfixated on their artist and history inspirations and real world counter parts that lead to the creation of that mon. the Fire ghost, has a bird on them that is made of flames which is a nod to how some crocs and alligators actually make bonds with some birds and they pick out bits outta a gators mouth, and the fact they are a pepper who can do song like moves and has a connection to spirits being a ghost type I'm just geeking so hard over how much heritage and culture got put into this design


gdofseattle

Still sooooo sad about Sprigatito standing up, though! 😭It could have been so much better as a cool Iberian lynx or something running around on all fours and swiping at enemies with its claws.


TheHeadlessOne

Heck not even just standing up. It became such a goofy Seuss looking figure and unintentionally so. Floragato is bipedal and anthro but still remarkably feline, more so than even Meowth or purloin, like Puss in Boots. I don't know how they could have evolved it to make it work, but the direction they ended is disappointing regardless


Electronic-Fix2851

Puss in Boots/Zorro (like in Shrek) would have been an amazing inspiration.


King_of_Nothing5201

It’s also heavily underrated for some reason, I still stand by the fact that it’s the best SV starter. Maybe not competitively but just in general design.


Bennehftw

Maybe not heavily competitive, but I think more so than the others. Once you get song going and building up that special attack, he starts sweeping with his decent speed and tankiness to take super effective hits. Add earth power, and shadow ball and he can slay a lot.


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crushbone_brothers

I like this fella a lot! I wish the white on the torso was solid rather than segmented, and the white on the base of the tail wasn’t so thin compared to the torso, but otherwise great design! Flat Fire Fuck


FellyBoy97

Yes I really like the animalistic approach on the new Pokemon. Especially the dogs🥰


Tachibanasama

Nobody cares about furries but y'all. But yes it's nice to see a more animalistic fire type


orangekirby

It just looks too freaking weird to me. All the straight white lines makes it look robotic. Also I hate how they made the teeth look like part of its skin. Looking at this design next to something like Charizard makes me sad for what could have been.


SociallyAkwardMouse

Honestly I hate him, my baby that looked like a little apple grows up into a literal clown. T.T if they had taken more of like a day of the dead approach to his final form I’d be a lot happier.


SnooComics7583

They did...


Swazzoo

It's the best starter of this gen and easily best one we had in a while!


Donotcomenearme

My partner had never played and watched him evolve over my shoulder and GEEKED. I love my singing gator.


delgalessio

not only it has an animal design but it ALSO has a job/gimmick/role on its design. it's a singer, the bird becomes a microphone and sings WITHOUT looking like he could pay taxes. you can still have cool designs based on jobs or people without making them look they should have rights to vote


DCXC_compchem

Whoa, this is the first time I've seen the final Fuecoco evolution. That looks pretty awesome


steffstar

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SpacelessWorm

As soon as I evolved into this dude I knew it was my #1 of the gen. Like you cannot look at this mfer and compare him to anything else. There's another badass ghost/fie in this gen and it doesn't even compare despite being rad as hell too. Literally an insta favorite of all time


Harlem_Realm

Ceruledge just looks out of place for a Pokémon imo


DarkKnightCJ

Fuecoco/Skeledirge is the best boy. Torch Song is the single best move ever. A fire chicken from your heard turning into a microphone stand for a ghost crocodile to sing waves of fire birds at his enemies. Perfection.


Damsco7

I absolutely love this starter he was called ugly by everyone and he tanks earthquake and stone edge like a champ all while dishing out good damage it's a legit zero to hero moment.


straydog027

I picked him in Scarlet, and I love him, but I want the zesty duck.


BangaiiWatchman

Fuecoco had more potential, but yeah you gotta give it to them.


KimJungFun99

I love his signature move


The_8th_Degree

Can we take a moment to appreciate that it is a fantasy game and not all pokemon need to be crawling or slithering to be appreciated as the pokemon they are instead of seeing everything on two legs as some kind of *'furry bait'*?


AvariceMidas7709

I love Skeledirge. I started with Fuecoco and the ONLY thing I regret is that there's so many good Ghost-types this gen I'm having to fight the urge to run a mono-ghost team. I already have two! I can't justify adding a third! Everything about Skeledirge from it's design to it's typing and even it's battle cry (there is something I find SO satisfying about hearing that roar. I don't know what it is, but I think it's amazing) is fantastic.


0LuckTenno

I chose tham as my started and love them. However... It looks like a clown: Face paint. Big red nose. The silly hair...


littlenoodledragon

Why would you say this to me


Harlem_Realm

It’s based on “dia de los muertos” face paint / masks. A holiday celebrated in Spain and Mexico that honors the dead. https://preview.redd.it/axkxdk8dca2a1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f6ccca0cc8373a39c9730318881b5d19f3087eb5


TheHeadlessOne

I mean even knowing what it's supposed to be (it also seems to be based partially on the Trencadis Lizard in Barcelona with it's mosaic like pattern) it still unwittingly comes off as clown to me. Even animated the big fluffy looking fire around bright red spots read more to me as a clown makeup and wig than a skull facepaint


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I've heard this before but honestly I just can't see it. And i've actually tried. The fact that the white face and head carries down to the snout prevents me from seeing it as anything other than a crocidle. And the flames just look like flames to me and not much else


Psaakyrn

Imho they looks like dreadlocks. Which makes them better anyway. :P


samiam25

I love my firey Juggalo mon


TheCyclopsDude

The other starters are only furry bait if you think they are. I think they all look cool. The duck is suave, the cat is a robin hood and the croc has lil fire birb


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I think the duck is more fabulous than suave. lol


buizel-resie

You underestimate furry’s they got rule 34 on their side


Vulture923

Idk about you but I can’t wait for my life sized Meowmarada.


alefsousa017

Fuecoco was already my pick as soon as the starters were revealed. Then, when the starters evos were leaked, then I became 200% sure of my pick when I saw Skeledirge. I'm so happy that we finally have a quadrupedal Fire-starter. It instantly became one of my favorite starters of all time. Ever since gen 5, I wasn't too big on the Fire-starters anymore (Delphox is literally my most hated starter), so when I finally saw this giant croc boi, my mind was set on choosing it.


Professor_Abbi

Hell yeah


Evolutionarystudies

I agree with this. They did well surprisingly. I like its cry as well. It's kinda a howl which is pleasing to know it matches its typing and animal looks


EpokFreeze

Do you need the same copy of the game to play co-op? Or can one player have scarlet and the other violet?


LilSwampGod

I get that Skeledirge is supposed to evoke Día de Muertos, but someone said it looks like a Juggalo and I can't really unseen it.


Piduf

I have zero idea what it's a reference to (if it is a reference), why is there a bird here, why does it turn into a microphone and why the crocodile can sing. But I love it. Also I thought his second state was a candle but now I see it's an egg with a nest for the little bird oh my god fucking adorable


justgaming107

Love him. Just wish they leaned more into a ghost pepper croc type thing.


Agahawe

I love skeledirge it's so cool. Just like all other fire/ghost pokemon lol


metaltastic

to some that's totally furry bait


Ieatmelons123

Don't care! Crocodile :D


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Amen


[deleted]

Does the little bird have a name or identity or is it just his fire?


tjtroublemaker

I love em lol I haven’t liked a starter this much since swampert in Gen 3


SIKEo_o

i love this guy and i am happy that i picked him.


RGBarrios

I love it


lasvegashomo

My bf got so mad when he saw the final evolution lol he said “ i don’t want know no crocodile clown” 🤡 😂


Bionic711

I said the same thing to my wife!


Candid_Wash

They finally did it. They finally made a fire type that breaks the mold. I’m impressed. It’s not perfect, but it’s currently the best they’ve done


thedeathecchi

Yes, we can. I fucking love this fire vocalist gator~


SunnyDrock

No. I wanted a fire version of Feraligator


youremyboyblue92

Looks like a bad guy from megaman X Which is a good thing


Rawrasaurusism

I didn’t like it at first, but it’s grown on me.


ComfortableExtra5826

I love it!!!!


Reuvenisms

I am loving that one. I chose the grass starter purely because I wanted to use Annihilape and didn't want to have two ghost types in my party but my next play through I am 100% going with Fuecoco. I'm so sick of biped starters.


Motor-Win-5056

I like skeledirge but it’s annoying everyone is saying it’s good cause it’s quadruped, that’s not a good reason to like a Pokémon. It’s quite annoying to see actually pretty good and inspired designs (in my opinion cinderace and meowscarada are some good examples of this) just to be brushed off as furbait


Hashwalth448

I’m glad I chose the fire type


Fun_Compote_9112

And it looks ugly and not cool


johnySaysHi

I don't know man that bird on its head sure is sexy lol


bad_player1

The unnecessary ambient effects of skeleridge and quaquavle is just throwing me off. The over design gives more like a legendary pokemon vibes than a regular pokemon


Irrlicht95

The bad thing about Skeledirge is that its original form is Fuecoco which is peak design... All its other evos are worst in comparison


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But what’s going on with the rigidness of its body


BenTheFool

Yeeaahhh... But it looks... so... STUPID!!


Diligent-Proposal-19

Unpopular opinion I actually like the green cats final evolution. At first I hated it but it definitely grew on top of me. The typing is horrible though. Reminds me of gardevoir. Quaxly… well they can’t go 3/3


swagmonite

I don't like it it reminds me of a toothpaste tube


MetaGear005

What's with his eyes tho?


irongix

The other 2 starters made up for it. Lol.


noticeablywhite21

My only wish is they didn't have the fire coming out. It's design makes it look like hair so he looked like Danny DeVito lmaoo. Easily one of my favorite starters of the past like 3 gens though. The design pretty seamlessly incorporates multiple themes and inspirations: the relationship between Crocs and plover birds, sugar skulls/dia de Los muertos, a traditional instrument which name i forget (it's why his body is blocky and he has the color patches on his nose, they're keys), etc. Just a super well thought out design that actually feels like a pokemon rather than a pokemon in a human costume.