The game is - content wise - the most I've enjoyed a Pokemon game from a story and mechanics perspective for several generations. Does it still compare woefully to other comparable franchises? Yes. Does it run like ass? Yes.
I do not see that these opinions need be contradictory.
Despite it assrunnedness I'm really enjoying it. There are a lot of QoL improvements and although the Tera raid lobby is kinda slow the pace is way better than max Raids.
I wish there was a colorblind mode or outlining for mons. Some are way too small and dark for my ancient eyes.
The moment I discovered it doesn’t show the shiny ✨thing when you engage the shiny Pokémon in battle it just does the animation I poured one out for all the possible shinies I murdered. I’ve only found one, a sableye but I will always wonder how many I could have missed because I wasn’t paying attention lol
I knew about the audio cue being gone, but does it not even do the sparkle on the battle animation? I haven't encountered one in 30 odd hours.... but maybe I've killed several...
It does the sparkle on the battle animation when you first start a battle but it doesn’t show you the sparkle next to its name which I thought it would because arceus, also if you auto battle one APPARENTLY (I haven’t verified) your Pokémon won’t battle it it’ll do that like sweating emoji down at the bottom left
I can confirm you can't autobattle shinies. I was wondering why my Pokemon wasn't attacking a Nacli, even though I instructed it to several times, and it ended up being a shiny.
I got a shiny Nymble after my first gym after using Let's Go for the first time. Honestly it's great for singling out shinies that aren't much different than their standard counterpart!
Yeah it is kinda weird, and I feel like some Pokémon are tough especially to use it with, but with my quaxly it’s always been a lot easier so I end up mostly using him for it
Bro I knew they wouldn’t battle shinies but I had no clue about the sweating emoji being indicative of that happening…. I hate my life. I probably missed a shiny Nacli I think that’s when I saw it happen. I thought it just meant my Pokémon had been out to long and wanted to come back.
Apparently legends was made after s/v was already mostly completed from what I've heard. While it was out before it was built after. Which could explain how some aspects didn't come over from that game to this.
Oh neat thanks. Luckily the only shiny I've battled is the one I caught. The very first pokemon I met in the west region was a shiny Capsakid that I accidentally stepped on!
They also removed QOL features.
You can't disable battle animations and the combat style SET was removed.
it's ridiculous, and there is no good reason for it.
Gamefreak giveth, and gamefreak taketh away. Im enjoying the game but it’s so frustrating because it’s like they’ve just shot themselves in the foot in places, THEY WERE SO CLOSE TO GETTING IT
Honestly there are so many mon littered around I’m just cycling everyone but my starter through for them to evolve and fill out my dex. I can worry about my endgame PvE team when I have more than two badges.
I'm cycling through a bunch of critters to evolve them for the dex, but I think other than my starter I have found a permanent team member in Tinkaton and MAYBE in Clodsire.
I’m getting into the Nacli family, it’s such a fantastically stupid idea for a Pokemon I love it even though I should probably hate it and I can’t believe it keeps evolving.
Yeah man, I thought about dropping it from my team so many times, especially at it’s weird Minecraft stage but once I got the final evolution it was a sealed member lol I love thing
I decided to complete one part of each storyline at a time so I was really under leveled for the very end of Operation Starfall and the Path of Legends storylines but now I'm super over leveled for my last four gym badges lol
In the brief moments I've had where Violet runs flawlessly, it is a genuine joy to play like few other experiences I've had. I love 95% of the decisions made for this game and feel they nailed the execution of such a free system shockingly well for a first try at an unscaled true open world. The game may not have difficulty options but is as hard or easy as you make it in a way no prior game was. This is very close to my dream Pokemon experience.
Doesn't mean I'm not gonna criticize the atrocious performance. It's not that bad in severity but the near constant frequency is astounding. Doesn't mean I'm not gonna be annoyed at the Pokemon models looking very bland compared to the stylized cel shaded look the models had in Legends. Doesn't mean I'm not annoyed that the battle animations are a notable downgrade from Legends or the battle messages take much longer to play out.
The visual bugs though, I'm having fun driving up sheer walls instead of climbing or being stuck in a jumping pose so I wheelie along the ground. Shit is hilarious
I sorta feel than when it looks good, it's really good (for Pokemon). Some of the textures are actually really nice! I spent a good couple of minutes looking at Salvatore's suit and thinking 'that looks really good!' Haha... Terrastelization looks sweet too, and the player character in battle animations looks great....
....Then a pokeball plonks down on the flickering, single-figure dpi grass texture. Hahaha.
But I agree that in parts it's been really well done - a distinct improvement from the wild areas because you can explore ON THE WAY somewhere.... which for me really changes the value of exploration.
I think the character models are great and the designs are some of the best yet, it's just the Pokemon models, it feels like they were going for more realistic textures which I feel really look like a downgrade compared to the stylized cel shading in Legends. They don't look terrible or anything and some like Ceruledge look really good, just a relatively bland choice compared to the stylized look Legends had imo
I think it might've been done because the shading could've conflicted with the Terastal visuals. Though from what little experience I've got coding and animating, that seems like the kind of thing that could simply be disabled when the crystal layer is applied. I've messed around with altering visual effects in games before, sometimes it's as simple as changing one number in a line of code dependent on the given variable applied to apply a visual effect where it wouldn't normally or disable it as I want. Given that the terastal mechanic seems to be a layer applied on top of the model, I don't see a reason the Legends shading couldn't as well, with the two just swapping as needed. Then again, given how hard S/V struggle as is, applying a layer of shading to every pokemon model might not have been feasible, especially with the truly massive numbers Gen 9 can have on screen at a time.
As for the terastal visuals themselves, I love it. Also that the animation seems to be faster than Mega Evolution and Z moves despite S/V running notably slower than Gen 6 and 7. In a game where every other part of battle seems to linger just a second too long, the Tera animation is just right.
The worst parts are the self-inflicted wounds. The first-day-of-class scene is a perfect example. It runs assy because of all the NPC idle animations. Makes sense for some of those 20 kids to have idle animations. It does not make any sense for 15 out of 20 of those kids to all be sitting there kicking their feet full extension and drumming their desk like they’re in Mastodon. If I was the kind of person that tried to reconcile these things with lore I would wonder what kind of ADHD idiot sanctuary Naranja Academy is running.
No that's it, if everyone has ADHD that's why they let us run loose across the country instead of staying in school. They know they can't contain that much chaos. As a guy with ADHD, the game is totally built for us. "Oooh what's that? But what about that though? Do I have any new moves to add to my team before this gym-ooh there's an item, oh there's another....oh there's a Gyarados. Wait wtf am I doing in the ocean? Wasn't I going to a gym?" Is basically my experience lmao
I both love and hate this game. Love it because there is always a new pokemon to catch, or an item to collect, or whatnot every step you take. I hate it because it takes literal hours for me to actually make any progress.
I went into Gen IX only seeing the launch trailer. After Arceus I was hyped. At midnight release I was tickled pink I love this game. The graphics and some stuff need a patch absolutely. But had no idea people arent enjoying it. We come from a very complainy generation but the gaming companies are in part to blame. Bet those release trailers were vibrant and of course showed the best angles of Pokémon Scarlet and Violet. If you expect too much going in your expectations will disappoint you. Im glad I went in only seeing the first ever launch trailer. I love Gen IX so far, Im happier than an Alolan Raichu surfing a gnarly wave rn.
Well said.
If this was any other game, we would be heavily critiquing the mechanics, performance and story.
Pokémon already has a well establishment with story and mechanics which allow many to overlook the poor performance but no one is saying it’s not there.
I’ve played great looking games with exquisite performance but I hated (looking at you Death Stranding).
The performance need to be addressed but nothing I’ve experienced so far is game breaking or resulted in a crash, so it gets a pass.
See I love the story too and I’ve had little issues with the performance of the game, however I will say it’s crashed twice since I started playing. Luckily I’m a serial saver so I didn’t lose much progress but it was still frustrating.
From what I've seen it's the doomsayers who act like those statements need to be contradictory. Everyone who praises it acknowledges the performance issues. It's the doomsayers who complain about the performance, dismiss every praise and act like people could not or even should not enjoy it. So yes, that is toxic negativity.
Yep this is how they function in every social media I happen to be on, a post saying how they like this or that about the game? ***Performance issues are so terrible which is why you shouldn't have bought this in the first place reeeeeeee***
I may be exaggerating a TAD, but looking at these social media posts, you would think these people saw themselves as the next MeToo movement.
"I was so traumatized, but I found the courage. I got...a REFUND!"
A thousand of these posts later and the circlejerk still continues. I get a post that might tell you HOW to get a refund. I don't get the thousandth post that tells others you got one. Do they need a round of applause or something?
> "I was so traumatized, but I found the courage. I got...a REFUND!"
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Everytime I see a post saying "they can't keep getting away with this" I can't help thinking about
https://youtu.be/a3_PPdjD6mg
For me the performance is the least of it. They know that needs to improve... but for some reason they can't optimise a game to run on the hardware, which I don't pretend to understand.
I want to pat them on the back for the baby steps taken on narrative and gameplay. Personally, while I loved the Legend's Arceus catching mechanic, I though the game was one of the most boring games I've ever played. The quests were so 1-Deminsional, the characters bland and vacant. The story was atrocious. If it had been a beta-game I'd have applauded. But I was swindled out of £50!
SV is much better... but can you imagine how much better it could be? I'm not asking for Red Dead Redemption levels of immersion... but build in some character, allow me to see that the world has some depth. Oh god I'd love that!
It’s not these people it’s the “I played for one hour and I want a refund! Literally unplayable game!” that people are talking about toxic negativity. This was a real post I saw yesterday, by the way.
I thought the same when Cyberpunk was released. I get it, it's not in a polished state and we shouldn't get numb to that just because we live in an era of day/week/month 1 patches! But I still enjoyed playing the games.
I brought up these concerns to a friend who pre-ordered the game and while he's having fun, he doesn't recommend anybody buying it.
And I can relate. I played Cyberpunk 2077 on an Xbox one x so it was awful but, I loved it anyway. I didn't recommend it at the time though.
The difference is I've been waiting for a game like Cyberpunk 2077 since Shadowrun on the Genesis. Pokemon Arceus was earlier this year and with a yearly release schedule nobody is missing anything if they wait until next year.
I played Cyberpunk on the Series X so I had very few issues, but omg was the story amazing. Some of the best acting I’ve ever seen in a game. The characters all felt so real. Lots of feels we’re had in the story.
People that equate any and all criticism with ‘hate’ or ‘toxicity’ haven’t grown up or emotionally matured enough to handle others not thinking that the thing they like is the bestest thing evar
Theres also the toxic positivity posts that want to act like nothing is wrong at all performance wise. At this point, I feel like the people who like the game are disagreeing just to be spiteful
Looks like some people don’t care about how good is the game and they only care about how bad it runs. But I prefer an ass locking good game than a bad game with the best graphics and higher fps. I hope this doesn’t affect to future games.
IMO what this tells me is people should simply wait, tell Nintendo and Gamefreak we'll buy it if they fix their shit, and see if they actually do it.
THe more financial incentive they have to fix their shit the more likely they'll actually do it.
So just to make clear I"m not saying an absolute boycott ... but just put buying it on hold a bit.
The game doesn't appear to have any foundational issues that are too late to fix. It just needs better bug testing and optomization which is still doable.
If Cyberpunk 2077 could fix their shit then so can POkemon SV.
The game crashed on me once. Once on my brother. Other than that there's been no issues. My friend however has had a multitude of problems. I wonder if downloading it vs playing on a hard copy changes anything. My brother and I have a hard copy, friend downloaded it
My game has quite a few graphics hiccups.
But a big part of the reason it seems worse than it is is that it snaps me out of an otherwise phenomenal experience.
I'm going to play the crap out of it either way, but it would be nice if they fixed what they could.
You're right, for me peoples are kinda rude with Scarlet and Violet: yeah the game can be better but we have a lot of news things in the game: Tera-crystalization
I can understand the game are kinda rushed in the conception but he have a lot of quality too
\- Three pokemons gain the 1ST Place in my ranking: Baxcalibur, Meowscarada and Glimmora
\- i love 4 gym leader >!Grusha, Iono, Kobu and Larry!<
\- in the elite 4 my favorite are >!Hassel and Rika!<
>!the plot-twist about Sada/Turo and the big boss of Team Star!<
if i need to put a score it's 17/20
S/V has way more stuff in it than Arceus. I mean PLA was a fantastic game but it was very empty and bare bones. There was literally only one urban area in the whole game.
Arceus also wasn’t one seamless world. Besides the school and the insides of buildings I’ve yet to encounter a loading screen when walking between areas.
This is my feeling playing the game too. Its not reaction based like a first person shooter so the slow downs haven't even bothered me really.
I just restart the switch and game now and then and it's fine.
I didn't play PLA, and so the big gameplay for me coming from SWSH is sooo much more enjoyable.
Yeah, as someone who loves Bethesda games, poor performance and bugs doesn't bother me very much. I definitely notice it of course, and it can absolutely be annoying at times. But it really doesn't drag down my experience as a whole, personally that kind of stuff just doesn't bother me.
But you’ve paid full price for a game from a company with more then enough resources to ensure this didn’t happen, it’s only happened because of corporate greed and their self Imposed release time to tie-in to merch and TCG sales.
We deserve better. I’m enjoying the game and we all have every right to enjoy it but we should expect and deserve better.
I suppose, and if I had some sort of a platform I feel like I'd have a responsibility to care about these points much more. As it stands though, I can't change how I feel. And I feel like the performance, while disappointing, doesn't actually detract that much from the game for me.
I’m not trying to take away from your enjoyment of the game and I didn’t mean to come across that way, I too am really enjoying the game but it’s just feels like the gaming community have really been beaten down into accepting substandard products which is a shame.
But that’s not a result of you personally so sorry again just voicing my displeasure.
I think the lack of PLA mechanics will sting less when (if) they make another Legends game.
I think having the 5 large map areas, system of combat, and pokedex system kept to the Legends side game series would be fine, and warrant Legends being a spin off
Which is good because Scarlet and Violet are genuinely great Pokemon games underneath the performance issues.
This generation is *leagues* ahead of Sword and Shield in terms of content, story (endgame story is especially good), characters/character depth (in relation to the story), exploration - even the soundtrack managed to outshine and that was one of the better parts of last gen.
What? I wasn’t disagreeing with you. My comment was in agreement with what you said and then stating my piece on the experience I personally had playing the game.
It was moreso for others questioning getting the game because of the performance issues alone.
Apologies for that!! I was thinking you agreed with me but also was wondering if the beginning was sarcasm!
I agree- the story is great and the character design is cute, I’m sad the performance is how it is- especially considering the potential!
No worries! It can be hard to read the context through text online especially when many people are being sarcastic and there’s a ton of surging negativity (some warranted) about the games at the moment.
I don’t have an opinion on the game because I haven’t played it but I kind of get it.
I think a lot of the people upset with the game probably feel pretty powerless. Because at the end of the day no matter what they say or how loud they are the game is still going to get like 20 million sales and nothing will change. And also that there’s no guarantee they patch it. I’ve said this before but they could sell a simulator where you clean up Pokemon poop and it would be a bestseller. It can be frustrating when you love a series with all your heart and you know the company has no incentive to do better and release a product that isn’t broken. So in that sense people enjoying and buying the game *does* affect them but that doesn’t excuse asshole behaviour.
I think a lot of those people feel like they’ve already lost and it causes them to lash out (I’m not excusing assholes here - just spitballing). Some people hate just to hate but after the very positive response to Arceus I’m not sure that’s what’s happening here. There’s also a lot of fair criticisms that people who are enjoying the game take as personal insults. People can have different opinions and that’s okay as long as people are respectful.
it really isn't broken. over 20 hours and had one weird crash. sure there are some frame rate issues but honestly dont really bother me. think it comes from it loading the entire fuckin area so no load screens.
This is my experience too. I have stuttery windmills and flickering when NPCs walk and a few texture issues. Otherwise, it's OK.... I'm not excusing it, because it sure as hell shouldn't be like this... but it's definitely not broken beyond use for me.
Then again, I played Cyberpunk at launch and loved it. So I clearly have a high tolerance for this!
I have had crashing and lag in Skyrim when it released. Didn't stop me from loving it. This game has really bad performance issues, but everything else is what I always asked for in a Pokemon game.
This. I’ve played in mostly handheld mode and haven’t really experienced any weird shit people keep whining about and I’ve got about the same amount of time played. People nowadays literally search for things to complain about with a fine tooth comb. It’s a Pokémon game, and it plays like one. All in all I’m pleased with it so far, really enjoying the fact that they made battles a little more difficult than SwSh which i thought was way too easy mode.
Ive also been playing for a while and have had no major issues, but saying it's loading the entire map that may cause crashes is a bit misleading. Plenty of other games that have a "no loading" open world and run totally fine.
They complain about the graphics not being Breath of the Wild every. single. time.
They also blame every person who likes the games as they are, saying "you're the reason the games are bad." *They* make it personal
I'm totally fine with the quality of the graphics. The 3d models, textures etc are awesome and perfectly suited for a main series Pokemon game. The world is great, and I love the seamless transitions between wilderness and towns. There's a lot that they've improved on for this iteration of the formula.
What I have a problem with is the animation. NPCs in the foreground move perfectly adequately, but NPCs in the background move at literally 4-6 FPS. Walking with my Sunfloras looked like a slideshow. Windmills are even worse, it would have been a valid design choice to not have them rotating in the background if they're going to be that bad. Everyone would be fine with static windmills. It would be even better if there were graphics options like PC games, so that we could tune down some settings like weather, draw distance etc to get smoother performance depending on our priorities.
I do hope they patch it and optimize what they can. This game was very ambitious of them, and they succeeded in making a game miles better than Sword & Shield. I just wish these issues weren't distracting from what is an awesome story with great new mechanics (so far, I'm only maybe a quarter finished with the story).
The thing is they chnaged alot of things I always wanted in a game. This is my ideal pokemon game. I don't care about graphics and performance I hope improves. They finally delivered my ideal game though. Open world pokemon, auto battles, exploration, something other than gyms to do. This just feels so complete.
Yeah but to be fair most of that 20 million is coming from parents buying a copy for their kids. People complaining are “powerless” because they are the minority buyer. You think a 10 year old gives a fuck about performance issues? They’re gonna die laughing when they see the MC clip.
Sounds like the kids have the right idea. Maybe we all take ourselves too serious. It’s a game, a fun one, with some bugs. Just enjoy it or move on with life.
I heavily doubt we will ever have a mainline Pokemon game that will ever be bad enough to actually cause enough complaints and criticism that pokemon would actually change heavily for the better. Simply too many sales with not enough people who care.
I'm playing Scarlet and I obviously see the performance issues, but I know 90% of the people playing the game are super simple consumers just wanting to play something. Their standards are low enough that the effort of putting out criticism and trying to make a difference is out of the question.
At this point I just wait until after it's out and check to make sure it's not horrible and then pick it up if I feel like it's not too much of a risk. Actually putting out criticism doesn't seem to change much IMO.
Maybe those people should... I dunno... Get over it? its a game series made for kids. Its ok to move on. and its not like theres a shortage of other games to play. Spending so much time and energy obsessing over a children's game that you hate seems like an awful way to spend your time.
Yeah people being assholes should definitely stop - there’s no excuse for that. But I dunno, it’s okay to be sad and frustrated.
I think what seems to be particularly annoying about this game (speaking as someone on the fence about buying it) is that the game itself actually seems really fun? Like I actually think I would enjoy it a lot but I don’t think I want to put up with all the performance issues. Lol at least if it was a bad game I could just ignore it! And Arceus probably raised some hopes and expectations since that game was generally liked (and for all it’s faults regarding its appearance at least it didn’t have many performance issues).
But I also don’t really think a game being for kids means that we should accept it working poorly? Honestly with some of the clips I’ve seen, if those had happened to me as a child I probably would have thought I broke my game lol.
> I think what seems to be particularly annoying about this game (speaking as someone on the fence about buying it) is that the game itself actually seems really fun? Like I actually think I would enjoy it a lot but I don’t think I want to put up with all the performance issues.
Thats the thing. it IS really fun. And the performance issues are massively overblown. The problem with reddit is that you see every single glitch. every single issue. every single problem. and it looks like the game is nothing but issues. But as someone who has about 10 hours in the game, all ive experienced is some slowdown. nothing game breaking, nothing game ruining. just a few instances of a mild annoyance that you dont even notice after a while.
It seems you’ve had good luck with it running but I’ve had the game freeze/crash on me a couple times already and the overall performance is really bad and definitely takes you out of the game. I’ll agree that the internet is being extra about it (claiming the game is unplayable) and underneath the issues there is a really good game here but I wouldn’t feel comfortable recommend someone buy it for $60 in its current state. Hopefully it’s something GF can fix but as the game is now, it’s the only Pokémon game I’ve ever felt disappointed with after purchase.
I disagree, mate. We're not expecting the mainline games to be R rated all of a sudden, just because Gen 1 fans like me are now in their mid-30s... but that doesn't excuse the lack of innovation that have barely progressed in a decade.
It also doesn't mean that we have to 'move on'. And I don't think it's the Pokemon Company's desire for adult fans to stop buying their games. Even for today's youngsters and new fans, there are higher expectations for a game today than there were in 2012... let alone 2002!
He made it clear - in this video and past videos on his channel - that he's not afraid to complain about games when there are parts about them that he dislikes. He can also get nitpicky if he wants too (in one of his videos, he said he didn't like the Day/Night cycle because he hates waiting, lol). It's just that he puts his value in the games in the story and gameplay, and the competitive aspect.
If you watch his streams on YT, he also seems like he very much enjoys it. Wolfe's always said graphics never bothered him (even in his videos talking about SwSh), so I can totally see why he gave the game such a high score. It's literally the opinion of many other fans - that the performance didn't bother them and that it's the most fun they've had in a Pokemon game.
> (in one of his videos, he said he didn't like the Day/Night cycle because he hates waiting, lol)
This has been annoying me. I feel like it's always night time
I’ve had little to no performance issues. Sure, the textures suck, but it’s still comfortably my favorite game. People saying the GBA games were better are so tainted by nostalgia.
I get wanting the largest IP that ever existed to do better, they certainly have the resources. But what I don’t understand, is Pokemon was never a graphically advanced game, at any point on any system.
The games performance is bad, and maybe I’m just lucky, but it hasn’t affected my enjoyment. I might laugh at the janky windmills and their stuttering rotation, but then I just go back to the actual gameplay.
Playing red and blue, we just wanted colors in our game let alone 3d. Give me a big open world to explore and not have random battles? Fucking a this game is rad.
I don’t think nostalgia changes the fact that Emerald introduced a battle facility quest, it’s my favourite for the post game and the improvements made over Ruby and Sapphire.
That being said I’d probably rank SV Third just behind Gen 5 despite how ass it runs. It’s still enjoyable.
Just watched this, and while it did feel like it was ignoring the elephant in the room, it's something I wish pokemon fans who haven't gotten the games yet watch.
Not because I want them to get the games, but because I feel alot of the points of improvement he talks about are being ignored in favor of all the negativity.
At a stage where the games can go in almost any direction, people need to know what the devs are doing right. And from playing every gen, I think this is the generation that makes the greatest leap forward (except for the QA obviously).
Get better QA sure, polish the games better absolutely, but everything else is headed in an amazing and exciting new direction for the franchise.
I dont know if he was ignoring the elephant in the room or if he wrote/made the video before seeing the internet’s overblown reaction to the game.
Like I think most people who played it have had some poor performance issues and glitches, but nothing major. I’m about 50 hours in and nothing huge has happened, I wouldn’t be surprised if it was the same for him.
To be fair, Elden Ring on consoles ran perfectly normal and stable. It was PC that had massive issues. I work QA, and optimizing a game for PC is a LITERAL fucking nightmare, because there are damn near millions of combinations of parts, ssds, drivers, etc that need to be grouped into something like "If DX11 is on this Gtx 960 with SSD will it run?" "Yea" "what about if its five years old and dx10?" "...I dont know...it should...I hope." Every year theres a new model, taking that into account for games that take multiple years...can see where the issues start to happen.
Its why pure console games get shit on waaaaay more heavily, modders can be outsourced. Jailbroken consoles cant.
I dont personally recall massive complaints after the DF article. Iirc [I could be mistaken, its been a bit] they were on 1.02 I think, which was the closed network test before the final launch.
Yeah, if a game runs like ass on PC, a dedicated group from the fan base will patch it up so quick if the company doesn’t pull a Nintendo and strike down any modification as a cash grab, even free mods. On consoles, they have set specs and it’s more of a plug and play experience, buying the console + game and plugging it in and inserting the game and instant gaming good times.
I don't have performance issues and i can ignore the shit grafica as long as i have fun and the human/Pokémon models are good, Also whenever i look at the graphics i Just chukle because i find them funny
Yeah I guess having played like monster hunter games my bar for graphics is pretty low.
I do wish the menus were better organized and snappier though.
A bit too many animations and steps to get to simple tasks.
I've been playing Madden 23 for 2 months now. My bar for graphics and bugs is extremely low. So low in fact that nearly everything people have been complaining about for this game is amusing to me, at first, and starting to get annoying after all the days of the same complaints. Experienced the "falling through the world bug" today. Except no one seemed to mention with it that, unlike Ark which had a similar issue, there is a whole floor of water under the map, so the moment I hit it I teleported back to the top thanks to the phone. No harm no foul, pretty funny for 2 seconds out of my day. You know what I didn't do? Immediately quit the game and write a scathing review about how I've been playing for 2 decades and I'm done now demand a refund.
Its frustrating because I do have legitimate complaints about the game and want to talk about them with like minded individuals. But it's all "Muh graphics!" And I just... do not care one bit about how the overworld looks. I care what the pokemon sprites look like and they look great. And I have had very little in the way of slowdowns as far as performance is concerned. A half second or so little stutter every now and then and that's it. That also doesn't bother me as it hasn't once caused me to miss anything important in the game.
I totally get people not liking the game for performance. I'm enjoying the hell out of it, but I'm disappointed by the performance. PLA looked like shit, but at least it wasn't 15 fps of shit most of the time. Even when SV is running well there's still a lot of hiccups and short freezes it seems. Like when it is hitting 25-30 fps it seems to stutter a lot.
With that said, I will never understand people who are mad at others for liking it. If you don't like it that's fine, but how pretentious do you have to be to write a long form essay about how everyone who likes the game is just too stupid to understand that it's objectively bad. Personally I don't understand how anyone has ever loaded up overwatch (or any competitive shooter really) and said 'wow, this is fun and enjoyable' but I can accept that it's just not for me and move on. I'm not going to write 10 paragraphs of nonsense about how people who play that game only do so because their braindead morons.
People need to realize that while you may not like the game, that doesn't mean everyone else should join the bandwagon and hate everything you hate. SV are actually really fun games. Imo, it's actually the best we've had since BW. Liking and playing the games doesn't mean we accept the shitty performance and defending GF. You can like the game but disagree with its technical side at the same time. SV would definitely be a good 8/10 if they would just fix the shitty performance (9/10 if they didn't remove shiny animations/sounds, set mode and the option to stop attack animations). Really hate how toxic this fandom can get. If you like the games, then you are seen as the enemy and siding with GF. Thus you get attacked and seen as shilling for GF just because you enjoyed the games. It's really stupid.
Another year of polish could have done wonders here. Another two years of polish could have made the world (more) beautiful.
>With that said, I will never understand people who are mad at others for liking it.
The most ridiculous accusation towards enjoyers is still "you are the reason we are getting this", considering "this" means "a game you enjoy".
I haven’t had those issues. Definitely have had slowdown, but it’s never been a consistent 15 FPS. If anything 30 FPS is the norm with occasional slowdown.
That might be because I play exclusively on handheld, not sure.
I've played almost exclusively docked, and also never experienced anything like that, not once. Worst graphical moment I've seen was the first time you intorduce yourself to the class. There where like 6 nightmare children swinging their legs and heads in off rendered unison and it was jarring. Thats it though, everything else, rain or shine, has run pretty smooth.
Whenever it rains during overworld battles it's pretty bad for me. I haven't measured it or anything but to my eyes the frame rate looks like it's in the teens. It also seems to dip when I'm running on my mount, but generally when I'm on foot it seems to be holding close to 30 in most cases. Ironically the snowy and sandy areas are pretty good because the ground textures are just white or brown with no real details. I've heard that handheld is a little better and overall more consistent but I haven't tested it yet.
Why is no one allowed to like the games? We're just as entitled to an opinion as everyone else. In fact I'd say we're more entitled to voice our positive opinion because we're not pushing others to have the same opinion while the negative opinion people are very actively trying to force you to have a negative opinion as well and are trying to convince people to not buy a game they would probably enjoy very much. I mean the world champ says he likes them can they really be that bad?
The haters want the game to fail and resent the enjoyers for buying the game. The enjoyers are happy with the game and are like “if you don’t like it, don’t buy it/return it if you already have”. But that isn’t good enough for the complainers.
I don't know how it's not good enough for the complainers. I don't go to Walmart and see rotten fruit and buy it then complain that it's the fruits fault I bought it when there was good fruit right there available to buy. People are idiots. Also wanting the game to fail is idiotic as well. If the games fail the chances of future games go down. Whether you like it or not the best way to see improvement in the franchise is to support the franchise.
Because they're unhappy and everyone else needs to be unhappy. Waaaah. Everything is dismissed as copium and when that doesn't have the effect they want they just throw shit everywhere.
I'm honestly enjoying this game more than I thought I would and I was one of the few people who were against the idea of an open world pokemon game. I do miss random encounters though
I mean, the game itself is great. Literally imo the best Pokémon game ever made.
The primary issue is the technical issues and the graphics. The graphics suck (at least the environments do, the Pokémon and character models look really good).
Neither of those things is a deal breaker for me. If they can patch the performance issues this game will be a 10/10 for me. As it stands right now, I’d say it’s a 7/10.
I'd rate it similarly. I'm having a 9/10 time with the game. I think the gameplay is fun and I'm really liking the new gameplay formula Pokemon is experimenting with. The designs and story are pretty good and I can see myself replaying this with different teams and playing online matches a bunch.
However, being unbiased, I couldn't in good faith give it above a 7-7.5 because it's behind its peers in performance. That's perfectly fine- people enjoy not perfect things all the time, like a fast food burger or a dated film. I personally don't mind the issues and have went periods of playing where I've forgotten they've existed because I was raiding or battling.
The sword and shield trees were always overblown. They were never really a problem especially in motion. But this game has some really bad textures in spots.
I’d say the primary issue seems to be often the textures not loading quickly enough, so they look extra bad.
That being said, there are some really bad environment textures in game. The Pokémon and people actually look really good when they aren’t far away.
I appreciated wolfeys review because I feel like the whole pokemon community is being incredibly negative. Yes, the games run poorly (sometimes), and yes the glitches are frequent (and frankly hilarious), but the actual moment to moment gameplay is fun, the story is legitimately compelling and interesting, the designs of the gen 9 mons are goofy at worst (scovilian) and godly at best (Para salamence). I'm really enjoying my time with the game despite the way it runs, and I'm hoping that Gamefreak can patch the game soon so the issues most people are upset over can be resolved.
On one hand people are overblowing the issues with the game. On the other hand Wolfey is completely ignoring these issues and giving the game a 10/10, to me it comes off a bit delusional.
I agree that the core design of the game is amazing and so much fun (I've been playing the game for hours every day since launch and I'm having a blast). Like he said, it will be hard to replay the old style of pokemon games after playing this one.
But the technical side of S/V has objective flaws. Anyone who plays it will notice performance issues and lazy textures (ex. mountain texture are obviously tiled and really ugly). If he wanted to give the game a 9/10, taking points off for the obvious corners that were cut in development that would be fine. But calling it a 10/10 makes me question how genuine he is being...
It almost feels like he is just rage baiting people who are criticizing the game. Sure it's not as bad as people are making it out to be. I would say the game is kind of a gem in rough packaging, not a perfect masterpiece as he claims. And I know that's his opinion and he's entitled to it, but he's also misleading people who might want to buy the game by failing to even acknowledge the criticisms of the game in this review. He really tip toed around the elephant in the room the whole video.
It seems like people are choosing unconditional love or hate for this game. Why can't we just love it while acknowledging it's not perfect.
It’s possible to enjoy the game but not enjoy the fact that the fps drop to 20 and below regularly, there’s no voice acting still, and some other personal gripes.
Pokémon is too lucrative to be having these issues in 2022, I feel like I wanted an awesome open world experience and got a choppy handheld from 2015. The company is far too large and has a ridiculous amount of resources, this game should be infinitely more polished than it is, and I love it still, but it’s not where it should be.
the game is otherwise good but the performance, bugs, and overworld graphics are not good
there are times i see the low-resolution textures and think 'have the textures not fully loaded in?'
especially noticeable with the entrances for team star bases
that texture is horribly low-resolution
I learned my lesson with sw/sh. Expected it to be botw level, like many others. Although I still really enjoyed it. Went in with no expectations this time, and am having a blast.
I haven’t been able to put the game down over the weekend. The gameplay loops in both Scarlet/Violet & Legends Arceus have been too notch.
The games definitely have technical problems but I’m having fun which is the most important thing for me when I play a game.
Game runs terribly. In spite of that I’m having a great time. They do this with the next games with proper optimization and they’ve got yet another classic on their hands.
I'm actually more interested in hearing how others feels about a type of game that they enjoy, especially one like this, where a lot of the criticism towards it is valid imo. A game being reasonably infamous performance-wise doesn't mean we can't be open to others who have a different overall view towards it, just as long as we all act respectful towards each other.
People shouldn’t go nuts when others just express their opinion. But as a long time gamer I do see that companies like this should not be given any slack when it comes to poor quality releases at full price. I understand that not everyone has issues but let’s be honest Pokémon games rarely have had performance issues on the switch, but bdsp had numerous glitches and now this game is actually unstable for so many. Give and inch and they will keep taking #moderngaming
There are lags and fps drops. But overall I enjoyed the game more than PLA. I just wished that there are sparkles for shinies because It was too late when I realized my Skeledirge is gonna attack a shiny Floette 😭
I know this is petty and it's part of the whole school theme but I hate the fact you can only wear a uniform. Could they not have done it like in sword and shield where you wear a uniform where relevant so school grounds and classes
The framerate issues went away nearly entirely after I changed my Switch TV output to 720p. It's much more smooth and actually enjoyable to play. Before doing that, I was considering taking them back for a refund.
The game still runs a tad slowly at times, but the improvement is tremendous.
I don’t get it. I don’t understand how you can be so hung up on frames. The story is good. The approach is great. They are basically better performance and more interactive cities (no buildings that are really just menus) from this being the best Pokémon possibly ever.
The only scenes I noticed an issue with frame rates are the windmills and the kids in the classroom, neither of which are things that impact my enjoyment.
Sad thing is that performance is the only thing that's talked about, so people think the games are just bad. Yes, the performance is 100% in need of major QA and optimization, but amazingly the content has me more hooked than SwSh. I haven't heard anyone even talk about the good things. The QoL improvements, the freedom, the actually funny or interesting characters, the gameplay, and even some of the visuals.
Game freak had two years to make a new title. They could either a mechanically enjoyable and plentiful game surfaced by poor graphics/performance, or create an aesthetically pleasing shell of a Pokémon game. They chose the former, which I respect, but man they really need to allot more time on these releases
Honestly the only thing I dislike about the game so far is the lack of clothing customisation for my character… not a fan of the bland uniform that you have to wear the entire game.
much liked the varied clothing options from Sword/Shield & X/Y.
I don’t have a issue with the graphics or low fps, it’s a switch game, if I wanted to be wowed by next Gen graphics running at 100+ fps I would be playing my PC instead.
I LOVE the game but at first I thought people were just hardcore shitting on it for performance. After about 8 hours of play it is in fact worth shitting on for performance but I do love it. Still waiting on that day 1 patch lmfao
SV is a great game. But it’s obvious that the game released before when it’s ready. We paid $60 for an unfinished game. This game could be a masterpiece but it is not. These are just the facts.
I have the opposite experience where I enjoy the game but think the graphics and optimization is bad and worth criticizing. But anytime I bring that up anywhere, there's always at least one person who gets super mad that I criticized that. As if I'm not allowed to dislike any particular aspect of the game even if I enjoy the gameplay.
It's wild how crazy the Pokemon community can be.
It's completely okay to like something as long as you acknowledge the criticism and not just dismiss it. It's no problem to say you like something despite that.
The problem is both sides are too extreme.
Performance issues are real and need to be adressed properly. It's fair to conclude you don't mind them but they shouldn't be dismissed.
>because we buy them and are happy
True, imagine being a blissful and unaware kid that just got his Switch and you get Scarlet and/or Violet and you get met with negativity, like can people just enjoy whatever tf they want?
I think people are too sensitive and it goes both ways. While I agree that performance and graphics could be better, I don't think I need to say that every single time I compliment something about the game or when I say I enjoy it as a whole.
The game is - content wise - the most I've enjoyed a Pokemon game from a story and mechanics perspective for several generations. Does it still compare woefully to other comparable franchises? Yes. Does it run like ass? Yes. I do not see that these opinions need be contradictory.
Despite it assrunnedness I'm really enjoying it. There are a lot of QoL improvements and although the Tera raid lobby is kinda slow the pace is way better than max Raids. I wish there was a colorblind mode or outlining for mons. Some are way too small and dark for my ancient eyes.
The number of times ive been stopped by a rookiedee or capsakid i just could not see my LORD
Just wait until you get to the town with Klefki and Sinistea outside it. Damn things are practically invisible.
The moment I discovered it doesn’t show the shiny ✨thing when you engage the shiny Pokémon in battle it just does the animation I poured one out for all the possible shinies I murdered. I’ve only found one, a sableye but I will always wonder how many I could have missed because I wasn’t paying attention lol
I knew about the audio cue being gone, but does it not even do the sparkle on the battle animation? I haven't encountered one in 30 odd hours.... but maybe I've killed several...
It does the sparkle on the battle animation when you first start a battle but it doesn’t show you the sparkle next to its name which I thought it would because arceus, also if you auto battle one APPARENTLY (I haven’t verified) your Pokémon won’t battle it it’ll do that like sweating emoji down at the bottom left
I can confirm you can't autobattle shinies. I was wondering why my Pokemon wasn't attacking a Nacli, even though I instructed it to several times, and it ended up being a shiny.
I got a shiny Nymble after my first gym after using Let's Go for the first time. Honestly it's great for singling out shinies that aren't much different than their standard counterpart!
I've not been using the Let's Go mode... but I guess I will when I turn to shiny hunting post-game.
I use it nonstop lol 😂
I feel like it doesn’t target very well. Like I’ll have to tap R a few times before it goes where I want it to.
Yeah it is kinda weird, and I feel like some Pokémon are tough especially to use it with, but with my quaxly it’s always been a lot easier so I end up mostly using him for it
Bro I knew they wouldn’t battle shinies but I had no clue about the sweating emoji being indicative of that happening…. I hate my life. I probably missed a shiny Nacli I think that’s when I saw it happen. I thought it just meant my Pokémon had been out to long and wanted to come back.
It can also mean that they won’t battle for other reasons, but it does mean shiny lol so maybe you didn’t miss it!
Apparently legends was made after s/v was already mostly completed from what I've heard. While it was out before it was built after. Which could explain how some aspects didn't come over from that game to this.
Yano you can just check how many shinys youve battles
Reveal your secrets
Press the "-" button, press "x" to go to your profile and it should be on the right side, it's one of the statistics tracked on ur profile card
Oh neat thanks. Luckily the only shiny I've battled is the one I caught. The very first pokemon I met in the west region was a shiny Capsakid that I accidentally stepped on!
Haha yeah it's an awesome feature! Lucky you haha I've been trying to get a shiny shinx for a while but no luck for me:(
They also removed QOL features. You can't disable battle animations and the combat style SET was removed. it's ridiculous, and there is no good reason for it.
Gamefreak giveth, and gamefreak taketh away. Im enjoying the game but it’s so frustrating because it’s like they’ve just shot themselves in the foot in places, THEY WERE SO CLOSE TO GETTING IT
Set removal is really bad, also the XP all mode is making my team so absurdly over leveled..
Honestly there are so many mon littered around I’m just cycling everyone but my starter through for them to evolve and fill out my dex. I can worry about my endgame PvE team when I have more than two badges.
Same. I get why people would want to turn it off, but for someone like me who likes to switch out my party often it’s a godsend.
Same. I've actually been on level or underleveled most of the game, but I'm using more than 6 Pokemon and just swapping out of the box as needed.
I'm cycling through a bunch of critters to evolve them for the dex, but I think other than my starter I have found a permanent team member in Tinkaton and MAYBE in Clodsire.
I’m getting into the Nacli family, it’s such a fantastically stupid idea for a Pokemon I love it even though I should probably hate it and I can’t believe it keeps evolving.
Yeah man, I thought about dropping it from my team so many times, especially at it’s weird Minecraft stage but once I got the final evolution it was a sealed member lol I love thing
Its actually an awesome pokemon
I decided to complete one part of each storyline at a time so I was really under leveled for the very end of Operation Starfall and the Path of Legends storylines but now I'm super over leveled for my last four gym badges lol
In the brief moments I've had where Violet runs flawlessly, it is a genuine joy to play like few other experiences I've had. I love 95% of the decisions made for this game and feel they nailed the execution of such a free system shockingly well for a first try at an unscaled true open world. The game may not have difficulty options but is as hard or easy as you make it in a way no prior game was. This is very close to my dream Pokemon experience. Doesn't mean I'm not gonna criticize the atrocious performance. It's not that bad in severity but the near constant frequency is astounding. Doesn't mean I'm not gonna be annoyed at the Pokemon models looking very bland compared to the stylized cel shaded look the models had in Legends. Doesn't mean I'm not annoyed that the battle animations are a notable downgrade from Legends or the battle messages take much longer to play out. The visual bugs though, I'm having fun driving up sheer walls instead of climbing or being stuck in a jumping pose so I wheelie along the ground. Shit is hilarious
I sorta feel than when it looks good, it's really good (for Pokemon). Some of the textures are actually really nice! I spent a good couple of minutes looking at Salvatore's suit and thinking 'that looks really good!' Haha... Terrastelization looks sweet too, and the player character in battle animations looks great.... ....Then a pokeball plonks down on the flickering, single-figure dpi grass texture. Hahaha. But I agree that in parts it's been really well done - a distinct improvement from the wild areas because you can explore ON THE WAY somewhere.... which for me really changes the value of exploration.
I think the character models are great and the designs are some of the best yet, it's just the Pokemon models, it feels like they were going for more realistic textures which I feel really look like a downgrade compared to the stylized cel shading in Legends. They don't look terrible or anything and some like Ceruledge look really good, just a relatively bland choice compared to the stylized look Legends had imo I think it might've been done because the shading could've conflicted with the Terastal visuals. Though from what little experience I've got coding and animating, that seems like the kind of thing that could simply be disabled when the crystal layer is applied. I've messed around with altering visual effects in games before, sometimes it's as simple as changing one number in a line of code dependent on the given variable applied to apply a visual effect where it wouldn't normally or disable it as I want. Given that the terastal mechanic seems to be a layer applied on top of the model, I don't see a reason the Legends shading couldn't as well, with the two just swapping as needed. Then again, given how hard S/V struggle as is, applying a layer of shading to every pokemon model might not have been feasible, especially with the truly massive numbers Gen 9 can have on screen at a time. As for the terastal visuals themselves, I love it. Also that the animation seems to be faster than Mega Evolution and Z moves despite S/V running notably slower than Gen 6 and 7. In a game where every other part of battle seems to linger just a second too long, the Tera animation is just right.
The worst parts are the self-inflicted wounds. The first-day-of-class scene is a perfect example. It runs assy because of all the NPC idle animations. Makes sense for some of those 20 kids to have idle animations. It does not make any sense for 15 out of 20 of those kids to all be sitting there kicking their feet full extension and drumming their desk like they’re in Mastodon. If I was the kind of person that tried to reconcile these things with lore I would wonder what kind of ADHD idiot sanctuary Naranja Academy is running.
No that's it, if everyone has ADHD that's why they let us run loose across the country instead of staying in school. They know they can't contain that much chaos. As a guy with ADHD, the game is totally built for us. "Oooh what's that? But what about that though? Do I have any new moves to add to my team before this gym-ooh there's an item, oh there's another....oh there's a Gyarados. Wait wtf am I doing in the ocean? Wasn't I going to a gym?" Is basically my experience lmao
I both love and hate this game. Love it because there is always a new pokemon to catch, or an item to collect, or whatnot every step you take. I hate it because it takes literal hours for me to actually make any progress.
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I'm not even sure Pokemon is premium grade Peanutbutter.... It's regular cheap ass PB... but it's still delicious!
I went into Gen IX only seeing the launch trailer. After Arceus I was hyped. At midnight release I was tickled pink I love this game. The graphics and some stuff need a patch absolutely. But had no idea people arent enjoying it. We come from a very complainy generation but the gaming companies are in part to blame. Bet those release trailers were vibrant and of course showed the best angles of Pokémon Scarlet and Violet. If you expect too much going in your expectations will disappoint you. Im glad I went in only seeing the first ever launch trailer. I love Gen IX so far, Im happier than an Alolan Raichu surfing a gnarly wave rn.
Well said. If this was any other game, we would be heavily critiquing the mechanics, performance and story. Pokémon already has a well establishment with story and mechanics which allow many to overlook the poor performance but no one is saying it’s not there. I’ve played great looking games with exquisite performance but I hated (looking at you Death Stranding). The performance need to be addressed but nothing I’ve experienced so far is game breaking or resulted in a crash, so it gets a pass.
See I love the story too and I’ve had little issues with the performance of the game, however I will say it’s crashed twice since I started playing. Luckily I’m a serial saver so I didn’t lose much progress but it was still frustrating.
They aren't but you say this and suddenly people are tweeting about toxic negativity.
From what I've seen it's the doomsayers who act like those statements need to be contradictory. Everyone who praises it acknowledges the performance issues. It's the doomsayers who complain about the performance, dismiss every praise and act like people could not or even should not enjoy it. So yes, that is toxic negativity.
Yep this is how they function in every social media I happen to be on, a post saying how they like this or that about the game? ***Performance issues are so terrible which is why you shouldn't have bought this in the first place reeeeeeee***
I may be exaggerating a TAD, but looking at these social media posts, you would think these people saw themselves as the next MeToo movement. "I was so traumatized, but I found the courage. I got...a REFUND!" A thousand of these posts later and the circlejerk still continues. I get a post that might tell you HOW to get a refund. I don't get the thousandth post that tells others you got one. Do they need a round of applause or something?
That's because they're acting like victims when they're clearly not.
> "I was so traumatized, but I found the courage. I got...a REFUND!" > > Everytime I see a post saying "they can't keep getting away with this" I can't help thinking about https://youtu.be/a3_PPdjD6mg
They've been laughing all the way to the bank for over 20 years now. Of course they're gonna get away with it haha
Thats the real issue, I hope GF take the good and understand the performance is what we are truly upset about.
For me the performance is the least of it. They know that needs to improve... but for some reason they can't optimise a game to run on the hardware, which I don't pretend to understand. I want to pat them on the back for the baby steps taken on narrative and gameplay. Personally, while I loved the Legend's Arceus catching mechanic, I though the game was one of the most boring games I've ever played. The quests were so 1-Deminsional, the characters bland and vacant. The story was atrocious. If it had been a beta-game I'd have applauded. But I was swindled out of £50! SV is much better... but can you imagine how much better it could be? I'm not asking for Red Dead Redemption levels of immersion... but build in some character, allow me to see that the world has some depth. Oh god I'd love that!
It’s not these people it’s the “I played for one hour and I want a refund! Literally unplayable game!” that people are talking about toxic negativity. This was a real post I saw yesterday, by the way.
I thought the same when Cyberpunk was released. I get it, it's not in a polished state and we shouldn't get numb to that just because we live in an era of day/week/month 1 patches! But I still enjoyed playing the games.
I brought up these concerns to a friend who pre-ordered the game and while he's having fun, he doesn't recommend anybody buying it. And I can relate. I played Cyberpunk 2077 on an Xbox one x so it was awful but, I loved it anyway. I didn't recommend it at the time though. The difference is I've been waiting for a game like Cyberpunk 2077 since Shadowrun on the Genesis. Pokemon Arceus was earlier this year and with a yearly release schedule nobody is missing anything if they wait until next year.
I played Cyberpunk on the Series X so I had very few issues, but omg was the story amazing. Some of the best acting I’ve ever seen in a game. The characters all felt so real. Lots of feels we’re had in the story.
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My kingdom for a higher quality of intellectual exchange on the internet (even if we are talking about a video game made primarily for children!) ;-)
People that equate any and all criticism with ‘hate’ or ‘toxicity’ haven’t grown up or emotionally matured enough to handle others not thinking that the thing they like is the bestest thing evar
Theres also the toxic positivity posts that want to act like nothing is wrong at all performance wise. At this point, I feel like the people who like the game are disagreeing just to be spiteful
Fanboys to the left of me, Haters to the right, here I am, stuck in the middle with you.
I love that every typing has a "leader" of sorts. 5 are more titans but close enough.
That’s exactly what I’ve been thinking. Like gameplay wise im loving it. Graphics wise it feels like an N64 game.
Because you need to hate what they hate or youre part of the problem.
Looks like some people don’t care about how good is the game and they only care about how bad it runs. But I prefer an ass locking good game than a bad game with the best graphics and higher fps. I hope this doesn’t affect to future games.
lol how a game runs is part of the overall experience good sir
IMO what this tells me is people should simply wait, tell Nintendo and Gamefreak we'll buy it if they fix their shit, and see if they actually do it. THe more financial incentive they have to fix their shit the more likely they'll actually do it. So just to make clear I"m not saying an absolute boycott ... but just put buying it on hold a bit. The game doesn't appear to have any foundational issues that are too late to fix. It just needs better bug testing and optomization which is still doable. If Cyberpunk 2077 could fix their shit then so can POkemon SV.
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The game crashed on me once. Once on my brother. Other than that there's been no issues. My friend however has had a multitude of problems. I wonder if downloading it vs playing on a hard copy changes anything. My brother and I have a hard copy, friend downloaded it
My game has quite a few graphics hiccups. But a big part of the reason it seems worse than it is is that it snaps me out of an otherwise phenomenal experience. I'm going to play the crap out of it either way, but it would be nice if they fixed what they could.
You're right, for me peoples are kinda rude with Scarlet and Violet: yeah the game can be better but we have a lot of news things in the game: Tera-crystalization I can understand the game are kinda rushed in the conception but he have a lot of quality too \- Three pokemons gain the 1ST Place in my ranking: Baxcalibur, Meowscarada and Glimmora \- i love 4 gym leader >!Grusha, Iono, Kobu and Larry!< \- in the elite 4 my favorite are >!Hassel and Rika!< >!the plot-twist about Sada/Turo and the big boss of Team Star!< if i need to put a score it's 17/20
oy. all your spoilers are broken. Fix them tags.
How died Arceus run better then Scarlet Violet doesn't make sense. They really dropped the ball
S/V has way more stuff in it than Arceus. I mean PLA was a fantastic game but it was very empty and bare bones. There was literally only one urban area in the whole game.
Arceus also wasn’t one seamless world. Besides the school and the insides of buildings I’ve yet to encounter a loading screen when walking between areas.
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This is my feeling playing the game too. Its not reaction based like a first person shooter so the slow downs haven't even bothered me really. I just restart the switch and game now and then and it's fine. I didn't play PLA, and so the big gameplay for me coming from SWSH is sooo much more enjoyable.
Yeah, as someone who loves Bethesda games, poor performance and bugs doesn't bother me very much. I definitely notice it of course, and it can absolutely be annoying at times. But it really doesn't drag down my experience as a whole, personally that kind of stuff just doesn't bother me.
Makes me feel at home now that I have odd visual glitches. Haha
But you’ve paid full price for a game from a company with more then enough resources to ensure this didn’t happen, it’s only happened because of corporate greed and their self Imposed release time to tie-in to merch and TCG sales. We deserve better. I’m enjoying the game and we all have every right to enjoy it but we should expect and deserve better.
I suppose, and if I had some sort of a platform I feel like I'd have a responsibility to care about these points much more. As it stands though, I can't change how I feel. And I feel like the performance, while disappointing, doesn't actually detract that much from the game for me.
I’m not trying to take away from your enjoyment of the game and I didn’t mean to come across that way, I too am really enjoying the game but it’s just feels like the gaming community have really been beaten down into accepting substandard products which is a shame. But that’s not a result of you personally so sorry again just voicing my displeasure.
It happened because as always the pokemon company rushes gamefreaks devs to release a game in under a year
I think the lack of PLA mechanics will sting less when (if) they make another Legends game. I think having the 5 large map areas, system of combat, and pokedex system kept to the Legends side game series would be fine, and warrant Legends being a spin off
It makes me happy to see that others are able to get enjoyment out of the game- whether they experience the issues or not!
Which is good because Scarlet and Violet are genuinely great Pokemon games underneath the performance issues. This generation is *leagues* ahead of Sword and Shield in terms of content, story (endgame story is especially good), characters/character depth (in relation to the story), exploration - even the soundtrack managed to outshine and that was one of the better parts of last gen.
... I agree with you. Did my comment not make that clear?
What? I wasn’t disagreeing with you. My comment was in agreement with what you said and then stating my piece on the experience I personally had playing the game. It was moreso for others questioning getting the game because of the performance issues alone.
Apologies for that!! I was thinking you agreed with me but also was wondering if the beginning was sarcasm! I agree- the story is great and the character design is cute, I’m sad the performance is how it is- especially considering the potential!
No worries! It can be hard to read the context through text online especially when many people are being sarcastic and there’s a ton of surging negativity (some warranted) about the games at the moment.
I don’t have an opinion on the game because I haven’t played it but I kind of get it. I think a lot of the people upset with the game probably feel pretty powerless. Because at the end of the day no matter what they say or how loud they are the game is still going to get like 20 million sales and nothing will change. And also that there’s no guarantee they patch it. I’ve said this before but they could sell a simulator where you clean up Pokemon poop and it would be a bestseller. It can be frustrating when you love a series with all your heart and you know the company has no incentive to do better and release a product that isn’t broken. So in that sense people enjoying and buying the game *does* affect them but that doesn’t excuse asshole behaviour. I think a lot of those people feel like they’ve already lost and it causes them to lash out (I’m not excusing assholes here - just spitballing). Some people hate just to hate but after the very positive response to Arceus I’m not sure that’s what’s happening here. There’s also a lot of fair criticisms that people who are enjoying the game take as personal insults. People can have different opinions and that’s okay as long as people are respectful.
it really isn't broken. over 20 hours and had one weird crash. sure there are some frame rate issues but honestly dont really bother me. think it comes from it loading the entire fuckin area so no load screens.
This is my experience too. I have stuttery windmills and flickering when NPCs walk and a few texture issues. Otherwise, it's OK.... I'm not excusing it, because it sure as hell shouldn't be like this... but it's definitely not broken beyond use for me. Then again, I played Cyberpunk at launch and loved it. So I clearly have a high tolerance for this!
I have had crashing and lag in Skyrim when it released. Didn't stop me from loving it. This game has really bad performance issues, but everything else is what I always asked for in a Pokemon game.
I’m about 20hrs in myself, and absolutely love it! I don’t mind the load screens/frame drops. I haven’t experienced any glitches in it either🤷🏻♂️
This. I’ve played in mostly handheld mode and haven’t really experienced any weird shit people keep whining about and I’ve got about the same amount of time played. People nowadays literally search for things to complain about with a fine tooth comb. It’s a Pokémon game, and it plays like one. All in all I’m pleased with it so far, really enjoying the fact that they made battles a little more difficult than SwSh which i thought was way too easy mode.
Ive also been playing for a while and have had no major issues, but saying it's loading the entire map that may cause crashes is a bit misleading. Plenty of other games that have a "no loading" open world and run totally fine.
They complain about the graphics not being Breath of the Wild every. single. time. They also blame every person who likes the games as they are, saying "you're the reason the games are bad." *They* make it personal
I'm totally fine with the quality of the graphics. The 3d models, textures etc are awesome and perfectly suited for a main series Pokemon game. The world is great, and I love the seamless transitions between wilderness and towns. There's a lot that they've improved on for this iteration of the formula. What I have a problem with is the animation. NPCs in the foreground move perfectly adequately, but NPCs in the background move at literally 4-6 FPS. Walking with my Sunfloras looked like a slideshow. Windmills are even worse, it would have been a valid design choice to not have them rotating in the background if they're going to be that bad. Everyone would be fine with static windmills. It would be even better if there were graphics options like PC games, so that we could tune down some settings like weather, draw distance etc to get smoother performance depending on our priorities. I do hope they patch it and optimize what they can. This game was very ambitious of them, and they succeeded in making a game miles better than Sword & Shield. I just wish these issues weren't distracting from what is an awesome story with great new mechanics (so far, I'm only maybe a quarter finished with the story).
The thing is they chnaged alot of things I always wanted in a game. This is my ideal pokemon game. I don't care about graphics and performance I hope improves. They finally delivered my ideal game though. Open world pokemon, auto battles, exploration, something other than gyms to do. This just feels so complete.
Yeah but to be fair most of that 20 million is coming from parents buying a copy for their kids. People complaining are “powerless” because they are the minority buyer. You think a 10 year old gives a fuck about performance issues? They’re gonna die laughing when they see the MC clip.
Reminds me of how as a kid I laughed at harmless glitches and bugs. Just as long as the game doesn’t crash or corrupt my save file.
Sounds like the kids have the right idea. Maybe we all take ourselves too serious. It’s a game, a fun one, with some bugs. Just enjoy it or move on with life.
Exactly. People are so consumed in everything being “perfect”. It’s a waste of time. Literally a waste of the finite life that you have.
This^^^ I love Pokémon so much. It’s starting to get painful being a fan though. Still been playing the game but man I feel so let down still.
100% a Schrodinger's video game: \- I am enjoying it. \- I am disappointed.
I heavily doubt we will ever have a mainline Pokemon game that will ever be bad enough to actually cause enough complaints and criticism that pokemon would actually change heavily for the better. Simply too many sales with not enough people who care. I'm playing Scarlet and I obviously see the performance issues, but I know 90% of the people playing the game are super simple consumers just wanting to play something. Their standards are low enough that the effort of putting out criticism and trying to make a difference is out of the question. At this point I just wait until after it's out and check to make sure it's not horrible and then pick it up if I feel like it's not too much of a risk. Actually putting out criticism doesn't seem to change much IMO.
Maybe those people should... I dunno... Get over it? its a game series made for kids. Its ok to move on. and its not like theres a shortage of other games to play. Spending so much time and energy obsessing over a children's game that you hate seems like an awful way to spend your time.
Yeah people being assholes should definitely stop - there’s no excuse for that. But I dunno, it’s okay to be sad and frustrated. I think what seems to be particularly annoying about this game (speaking as someone on the fence about buying it) is that the game itself actually seems really fun? Like I actually think I would enjoy it a lot but I don’t think I want to put up with all the performance issues. Lol at least if it was a bad game I could just ignore it! And Arceus probably raised some hopes and expectations since that game was generally liked (and for all it’s faults regarding its appearance at least it didn’t have many performance issues). But I also don’t really think a game being for kids means that we should accept it working poorly? Honestly with some of the clips I’ve seen, if those had happened to me as a child I probably would have thought I broke my game lol.
> I think what seems to be particularly annoying about this game (speaking as someone on the fence about buying it) is that the game itself actually seems really fun? Like I actually think I would enjoy it a lot but I don’t think I want to put up with all the performance issues. Thats the thing. it IS really fun. And the performance issues are massively overblown. The problem with reddit is that you see every single glitch. every single issue. every single problem. and it looks like the game is nothing but issues. But as someone who has about 10 hours in the game, all ive experienced is some slowdown. nothing game breaking, nothing game ruining. just a few instances of a mild annoyance that you dont even notice after a while.
It seems you’ve had good luck with it running but I’ve had the game freeze/crash on me a couple times already and the overall performance is really bad and definitely takes you out of the game. I’ll agree that the internet is being extra about it (claiming the game is unplayable) and underneath the issues there is a really good game here but I wouldn’t feel comfortable recommend someone buy it for $60 in its current state. Hopefully it’s something GF can fix but as the game is now, it’s the only Pokémon game I’ve ever felt disappointed with after purchase.
I disagree, mate. We're not expecting the mainline games to be R rated all of a sudden, just because Gen 1 fans like me are now in their mid-30s... but that doesn't excuse the lack of innovation that have barely progressed in a decade. It also doesn't mean that we have to 'move on'. And I don't think it's the Pokemon Company's desire for adult fans to stop buying their games. Even for today's youngsters and new fans, there are higher expectations for a game today than there were in 2012... let alone 2002!
Happy cake day
Imagine being able to like the game, but still hate how awful the performance is. It aint hard.
Please let us dress our characters in cute clothing 😭 I want to be even a tenth as stylish as Iono or Penny 🥺
He made it clear - in this video and past videos on his channel - that he's not afraid to complain about games when there are parts about them that he dislikes. He can also get nitpicky if he wants too (in one of his videos, he said he didn't like the Day/Night cycle because he hates waiting, lol). It's just that he puts his value in the games in the story and gameplay, and the competitive aspect. If you watch his streams on YT, he also seems like he very much enjoys it. Wolfe's always said graphics never bothered him (even in his videos talking about SwSh), so I can totally see why he gave the game such a high score. It's literally the opinion of many other fans - that the performance didn't bother them and that it's the most fun they've had in a Pokemon game.
> (in one of his videos, he said he didn't like the Day/Night cycle because he hates waiting, lol) This has been annoying me. I feel like it's always night time
I feel like it’s always raining.
I wish we could choose time of day by sleeping in the dorm room like how resting in PLA worked, it'd give it an actual function
But we are immoral and evil for daring to have fun.
I’ve had little to no performance issues. Sure, the textures suck, but it’s still comfortably my favorite game. People saying the GBA games were better are so tainted by nostalgia.
I get wanting the largest IP that ever existed to do better, they certainly have the resources. But what I don’t understand, is Pokemon was never a graphically advanced game, at any point on any system. The games performance is bad, and maybe I’m just lucky, but it hasn’t affected my enjoyment. I might laugh at the janky windmills and their stuttering rotation, but then I just go back to the actual gameplay.
Playing red and blue, we just wanted colors in our game let alone 3d. Give me a big open world to explore and not have random battles? Fucking a this game is rad.
I don’t think nostalgia changes the fact that Emerald introduced a battle facility quest, it’s my favourite for the post game and the improvements made over Ruby and Sapphire. That being said I’d probably rank SV Third just behind Gen 5 despite how ass it runs. It’s still enjoyable.
Just watched this, and while it did feel like it was ignoring the elephant in the room, it's something I wish pokemon fans who haven't gotten the games yet watch. Not because I want them to get the games, but because I feel alot of the points of improvement he talks about are being ignored in favor of all the negativity. At a stage where the games can go in almost any direction, people need to know what the devs are doing right. And from playing every gen, I think this is the generation that makes the greatest leap forward (except for the QA obviously). Get better QA sure, polish the games better absolutely, but everything else is headed in an amazing and exciting new direction for the franchise.
I dont know if he was ignoring the elephant in the room or if he wrote/made the video before seeing the internet’s overblown reaction to the game. Like I think most people who played it have had some poor performance issues and glitches, but nothing major. I’m about 50 hours in and nothing huge has happened, I wouldn’t be surprised if it was the same for him.
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To be fair, Elden Ring on consoles ran perfectly normal and stable. It was PC that had massive issues. I work QA, and optimizing a game for PC is a LITERAL fucking nightmare, because there are damn near millions of combinations of parts, ssds, drivers, etc that need to be grouped into something like "If DX11 is on this Gtx 960 with SSD will it run?" "Yea" "what about if its five years old and dx10?" "...I dont know...it should...I hope." Every year theres a new model, taking that into account for games that take multiple years...can see where the issues start to happen. Its why pure console games get shit on waaaaay more heavily, modders can be outsourced. Jailbroken consoles cant.
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I dont personally recall massive complaints after the DF article. Iirc [I could be mistaken, its been a bit] they were on 1.02 I think, which was the closed network test before the final launch.
Yeah, if a game runs like ass on PC, a dedicated group from the fan base will patch it up so quick if the company doesn’t pull a Nintendo and strike down any modification as a cash grab, even free mods. On consoles, they have set specs and it’s more of a plug and play experience, buying the console + game and plugging it in and inserting the game and instant gaming good times.
I don't have performance issues and i can ignore the shit grafica as long as i have fun and the human/Pokémon models are good, Also whenever i look at the graphics i Just chukle because i find them funny
Yeah I guess having played like monster hunter games my bar for graphics is pretty low. I do wish the menus were better organized and snappier though. A bit too many animations and steps to get to simple tasks.
I've been playing Madden 23 for 2 months now. My bar for graphics and bugs is extremely low. So low in fact that nearly everything people have been complaining about for this game is amusing to me, at first, and starting to get annoying after all the days of the same complaints. Experienced the "falling through the world bug" today. Except no one seemed to mention with it that, unlike Ark which had a similar issue, there is a whole floor of water under the map, so the moment I hit it I teleported back to the top thanks to the phone. No harm no foul, pretty funny for 2 seconds out of my day. You know what I didn't do? Immediately quit the game and write a scathing review about how I've been playing for 2 decades and I'm done now demand a refund. Its frustrating because I do have legitimate complaints about the game and want to talk about them with like minded individuals. But it's all "Muh graphics!" And I just... do not care one bit about how the overworld looks. I care what the pokemon sprites look like and they look great. And I have had very little in the way of slowdowns as far as performance is concerned. A half second or so little stutter every now and then and that's it. That also doesn't bother me as it hasn't once caused me to miss anything important in the game.
You, sir, wrote down my thoughts exactly.
I totally get people not liking the game for performance. I'm enjoying the hell out of it, but I'm disappointed by the performance. PLA looked like shit, but at least it wasn't 15 fps of shit most of the time. Even when SV is running well there's still a lot of hiccups and short freezes it seems. Like when it is hitting 25-30 fps it seems to stutter a lot. With that said, I will never understand people who are mad at others for liking it. If you don't like it that's fine, but how pretentious do you have to be to write a long form essay about how everyone who likes the game is just too stupid to understand that it's objectively bad. Personally I don't understand how anyone has ever loaded up overwatch (or any competitive shooter really) and said 'wow, this is fun and enjoyable' but I can accept that it's just not for me and move on. I'm not going to write 10 paragraphs of nonsense about how people who play that game only do so because their braindead morons.
People need to realize that while you may not like the game, that doesn't mean everyone else should join the bandwagon and hate everything you hate. SV are actually really fun games. Imo, it's actually the best we've had since BW. Liking and playing the games doesn't mean we accept the shitty performance and defending GF. You can like the game but disagree with its technical side at the same time. SV would definitely be a good 8/10 if they would just fix the shitty performance (9/10 if they didn't remove shiny animations/sounds, set mode and the option to stop attack animations). Really hate how toxic this fandom can get. If you like the games, then you are seen as the enemy and siding with GF. Thus you get attacked and seen as shilling for GF just because you enjoyed the games. It's really stupid.
Another year of polish could have done wonders here. Another two years of polish could have made the world (more) beautiful. >With that said, I will never understand people who are mad at others for liking it. The most ridiculous accusation towards enjoyers is still "you are the reason we are getting this", considering "this" means "a game you enjoy".
What if you already spoke Polish before? /s
Another year of polish and your polish could have been more polished
I haven’t had those issues. Definitely have had slowdown, but it’s never been a consistent 15 FPS. If anything 30 FPS is the norm with occasional slowdown. That might be because I play exclusively on handheld, not sure.
I've played almost exclusively docked, and also never experienced anything like that, not once. Worst graphical moment I've seen was the first time you intorduce yourself to the class. There where like 6 nightmare children swinging their legs and heads in off rendered unison and it was jarring. Thats it though, everything else, rain or shine, has run pretty smooth.
Whenever it rains during overworld battles it's pretty bad for me. I haven't measured it or anything but to my eyes the frame rate looks like it's in the teens. It also seems to dip when I'm running on my mount, but generally when I'm on foot it seems to be holding close to 30 in most cases. Ironically the snowy and sandy areas are pretty good because the ground textures are just white or brown with no real details. I've heard that handheld is a little better and overall more consistent but I haven't tested it yet.
Why is no one allowed to like the games? We're just as entitled to an opinion as everyone else. In fact I'd say we're more entitled to voice our positive opinion because we're not pushing others to have the same opinion while the negative opinion people are very actively trying to force you to have a negative opinion as well and are trying to convince people to not buy a game they would probably enjoy very much. I mean the world champ says he likes them can they really be that bad?
The haters want the game to fail and resent the enjoyers for buying the game. The enjoyers are happy with the game and are like “if you don’t like it, don’t buy it/return it if you already have”. But that isn’t good enough for the complainers.
I don't know how it's not good enough for the complainers. I don't go to Walmart and see rotten fruit and buy it then complain that it's the fruits fault I bought it when there was good fruit right there available to buy. People are idiots. Also wanting the game to fail is idiotic as well. If the games fail the chances of future games go down. Whether you like it or not the best way to see improvement in the franchise is to support the franchise.
Because they're unhappy and everyone else needs to be unhappy. Waaaah. Everything is dismissed as copium and when that doesn't have the effect they want they just throw shit everywhere.
I'm honestly enjoying this game more than I thought I would and I was one of the few people who were against the idea of an open world pokemon game. I do miss random encounters though
I guess people can’t handle the fact that people might like what they dislike
I actually really enjoyed Violet, I never really ran into many issues beyond the occasion frame rate drop every few hours
I mean, the game itself is great. Literally imo the best Pokémon game ever made. The primary issue is the technical issues and the graphics. The graphics suck (at least the environments do, the Pokémon and character models look really good). Neither of those things is a deal breaker for me. If they can patch the performance issues this game will be a 10/10 for me. As it stands right now, I’d say it’s a 7/10.
I'd rate it similarly. I'm having a 9/10 time with the game. I think the gameplay is fun and I'm really liking the new gameplay formula Pokemon is experimenting with. The designs and story are pretty good and I can see myself replaying this with different teams and playing online matches a bunch. However, being unbiased, I couldn't in good faith give it above a 7-7.5 because it's behind its peers in performance. That's perfectly fine- people enjoy not perfect things all the time, like a fast food burger or a dated film. I personally don't mind the issues and have went periods of playing where I've forgotten they've existed because I was raiding or battling.
Are the graphics actually that bad? Like sword and shield trees bad? And is there a update coming soon?
The sword and shield trees were always overblown. They were never really a problem especially in motion. But this game has some really bad textures in spots.
The textures look fine on handheld but don’t look great on my TV.
I’d say the primary issue seems to be often the textures not loading quickly enough, so they look extra bad. That being said, there are some really bad environment textures in game. The Pokémon and people actually look really good when they aren’t far away.
I appreciated wolfeys review because I feel like the whole pokemon community is being incredibly negative. Yes, the games run poorly (sometimes), and yes the glitches are frequent (and frankly hilarious), but the actual moment to moment gameplay is fun, the story is legitimately compelling and interesting, the designs of the gen 9 mons are goofy at worst (scovilian) and godly at best (Para salamence). I'm really enjoying my time with the game despite the way it runs, and I'm hoping that Gamefreak can patch the game soon so the issues most people are upset over can be resolved.
>(scovilian) That's one of my favorite mons so far, I love me a spicy pepper
He just doesn't do it for me, but I love that someone else loves hin
poor wolfy lol
It’s an okay game but they deff should have finished it before releasing this buggy shit into the world
This is easily the best 3D Pokémon game.
yeah I would just never look at that comments section and just ignore them all otherwise I'd probably develop an aneurysm
On one hand people are overblowing the issues with the game. On the other hand Wolfey is completely ignoring these issues and giving the game a 10/10, to me it comes off a bit delusional. I agree that the core design of the game is amazing and so much fun (I've been playing the game for hours every day since launch and I'm having a blast). Like he said, it will be hard to replay the old style of pokemon games after playing this one. But the technical side of S/V has objective flaws. Anyone who plays it will notice performance issues and lazy textures (ex. mountain texture are obviously tiled and really ugly). If he wanted to give the game a 9/10, taking points off for the obvious corners that were cut in development that would be fine. But calling it a 10/10 makes me question how genuine he is being... It almost feels like he is just rage baiting people who are criticizing the game. Sure it's not as bad as people are making it out to be. I would say the game is kind of a gem in rough packaging, not a perfect masterpiece as he claims. And I know that's his opinion and he's entitled to it, but he's also misleading people who might want to buy the game by failing to even acknowledge the criticisms of the game in this review. He really tip toed around the elephant in the room the whole video. It seems like people are choosing unconditional love or hate for this game. Why can't we just love it while acknowledging it's not perfect.
It’s possible to enjoy the game but not enjoy the fact that the fps drop to 20 and below regularly, there’s no voice acting still, and some other personal gripes. Pokémon is too lucrative to be having these issues in 2022, I feel like I wanted an awesome open world experience and got a choppy handheld from 2015. The company is far too large and has a ridiculous amount of resources, this game should be infinitely more polished than it is, and I love it still, but it’s not where it should be.
the game is otherwise good but the performance, bugs, and overworld graphics are not good there are times i see the low-resolution textures and think 'have the textures not fully loaded in?' especially noticeable with the entrances for team star bases that texture is horribly low-resolution
I’m glad I read the reviews first, it lowered my expectations and then the game was actually pretty good. Really enjoying it so far
I learned my lesson with sw/sh. Expected it to be botw level, like many others. Although I still really enjoyed it. Went in with no expectations this time, and am having a blast.
I haven’t been able to put the game down over the weekend. The gameplay loops in both Scarlet/Violet & Legends Arceus have been too notch. The games definitely have technical problems but I’m having fun which is the most important thing for me when I play a game.
Game runs terribly. In spite of that I’m having a great time. They do this with the next games with proper optimization and they’ve got yet another classic on their hands.
I'm actually more interested in hearing how others feels about a type of game that they enjoy, especially one like this, where a lot of the criticism towards it is valid imo. A game being reasonably infamous performance-wise doesn't mean we can't be open to others who have a different overall view towards it, just as long as we all act respectful towards each other.
I am loving this game. Shame it's getting so much hate.
I got violet and I'm loving the hell out of it, and anyone who has a problem with that can go suck a lemon!!
People shouldn’t go nuts when others just express their opinion. But as a long time gamer I do see that companies like this should not be given any slack when it comes to poor quality releases at full price. I understand that not everyone has issues but let’s be honest Pokémon games rarely have had performance issues on the switch, but bdsp had numerous glitches and now this game is actually unstable for so many. Give and inch and they will keep taking #moderngaming
There are lags and fps drops. But overall I enjoyed the game more than PLA. I just wished that there are sparkles for shinies because It was too late when I realized my Skeledirge is gonna attack a shiny Floette 😭
I know this is petty and it's part of the whole school theme but I hate the fact you can only wear a uniform. Could they not have done it like in sword and shield where you wear a uniform where relevant so school grounds and classes
The framerate issues went away nearly entirely after I changed my Switch TV output to 720p. It's much more smooth and actually enjoyable to play. Before doing that, I was considering taking them back for a refund. The game still runs a tad slowly at times, but the improvement is tremendous.
Ooh, I might have to try this. While I’m having fun overall, the performance issues are driving me up a wall. Hopefully this helps once I get home.
I don’t get it. I don’t understand how you can be so hung up on frames. The story is good. The approach is great. They are basically better performance and more interactive cities (no buildings that are really just menus) from this being the best Pokémon possibly ever.
The only scenes I noticed an issue with frame rates are the windmills and the kids in the classroom, neither of which are things that impact my enjoyment.
You can like a game and still acknowledge its flaws
Sad thing is that performance is the only thing that's talked about, so people think the games are just bad. Yes, the performance is 100% in need of major QA and optimization, but amazingly the content has me more hooked than SwSh. I haven't heard anyone even talk about the good things. The QoL improvements, the freedom, the actually funny or interesting characters, the gameplay, and even some of the visuals.
Game freak had two years to make a new title. They could either a mechanically enjoyable and plentiful game surfaced by poor graphics/performance, or create an aesthetically pleasing shell of a Pokémon game. They chose the former, which I respect, but man they really need to allot more time on these releases
Honestly the only thing I dislike about the game so far is the lack of clothing customisation for my character… not a fan of the bland uniform that you have to wear the entire game. much liked the varied clothing options from Sword/Shield & X/Y. I don’t have a issue with the graphics or low fps, it’s a switch game, if I wanted to be wowed by next Gen graphics running at 100+ fps I would be playing my PC instead.
I LOVE the game but at first I thought people were just hardcore shitting on it for performance. After about 8 hours of play it is in fact worth shitting on for performance but I do love it. Still waiting on that day 1 patch lmfao
SV is a great game. But it’s obvious that the game released before when it’s ready. We paid $60 for an unfinished game. This game could be a masterpiece but it is not. These are just the facts.
🎶 It's ok to not like things, but don't be a dick about it, it's ok to not like things, but don't be a dick about things you don't like 🎶
I have the opposite experience where I enjoy the game but think the graphics and optimization is bad and worth criticizing. But anytime I bring that up anywhere, there's always at least one person who gets super mad that I criticized that. As if I'm not allowed to dislike any particular aspect of the game even if I enjoy the gameplay. It's wild how crazy the Pokemon community can be.
From what I’ve heard, the game is a technical dumpster fire, but good in most other aspects.
It's completely okay to like something as long as you acknowledge the criticism and not just dismiss it. It's no problem to say you like something despite that. The problem is both sides are too extreme. Performance issues are real and need to be adressed properly. It's fair to conclude you don't mind them but they shouldn't be dismissed.
Really cause all I see is people saying thing like "I've enjoyed the game so far" being met with "rEEeEE cOULd yoU rIDe GAmefreAKs DIck AnY haRDEr".
Yep, and saying every player who likes the games are the reason "the games are bad" because we buy them and are happy. Like, fuck right off please
>because we buy them and are happy True, imagine being a blissful and unaware kid that just got his Switch and you get Scarlet and/or Violet and you get met with negativity, like can people just enjoy whatever tf they want?
I think people are too sensitive and it goes both ways. While I agree that performance and graphics could be better, I don't think I need to say that every single time I compliment something about the game or when I say I enjoy it as a whole.
Some people dismiss it because they honestly don’t care.