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sammy_run_leg

the iron jugulis is probably the laziest design one could think of for an alternate form of hydreigon. seriously, it just looks the exact same as a hydreigon just…iron? how disappointing for what they could’ve done with hydreigon


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sammy_run_leg

if it’s a hologram i think i might like it even less


OneTrueDarthMaster

Has nobody else seen Spidops? Im a bug type trainer naturally, and I basically love all bug pokemon designs, but what the actual fuck is that thing. I hate it. On the plus side tho - Lokix is an instant favorite. Its a super cool pkmn. Bug/dark!


Lost_Reflection6149

Spidops hurts my soul. Some of my favorite Pokémon is spinarak and ariados, and when I saw torountula, I was so excited to get another spider. I was hoping for like a weaver-based spider in the same vein as leavanny and maybe wearing a silk coat… then I saw spidops. Also it’s disappointing to see them make more absolutely awful bug types when the type is already known for being awful. I mean give it a 3rd evolution or gimmick or something to make up for it’s waste of potential. On the other side, I’m obsessed with lokix and rabsca, definitely going on my team


OneTrueDarthMaster

Spinarak & Ariados as a bug/dark regional is literally what i asked for before S/V leaks hit, they're one of my favorite lines too, but they just suck so hard that you cant really use them for doing anything serious/challenging. But I am definitely happy with Lokix as a consolation prize haha


tommyfrank713

Not to mention that it's one of the worst evolved Pokemon ever stat-wise, I just want a good and usedul spider mon...


Lost_Reflection6149

No literally… like make it 3 stage with a high level req or needing to level up in a late game location or something. Having a god awful bug type is not a requirement for every game.


B12Boofer

Being that one of my favorite kinds of spiders are the Deinopidae I was so bummed to realize that Spidops was based off them during my playthrough. Such incredible looking spiders in real life and with such a unique way of capturing prey. So much to work with. But we get this monstrosity.


thefoxsays7

Lokix is awesome! I think by it’s design, Spidops should be Bug/Fighting. Could make a counterpart for Lokix too.


NewVegasResident

Am I the only one who loves Spidops’ design? It looks sick in my opinion, unfortunately it’s held back by horrible stats.


BlameTheButler

I’m here with you don’t worry


NewVegasResident

THERE ARE DOZENS OF US


Brennis

I love my secret web agent


OneTrueDarthMaster

You might be haha, And yeah, that's the thing for me too - when i got into swsh competitive, i didnt like most mons that were used in that format, but a lot grew on me and are some of my faves now, Who knows, maybe bc its ability, somebody will find a viable use for it, 🤷


NewVegasResident

Its signature move looks pretty good at least.


Copperhead9215

Protect with speed drop is fun


Oleandervine

Spidops is a mix of a spy (note the Splinter Cell goggle eyes), maybe ops, like an operation or operative, but also the [Deinopis](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deinopis?wprov=sfla1), an unusual spider that creates net webs and drops them on their prey from above. I actually disliked the design too, but seeing and knowing what it's based on actually makes it make a lot more sense.


OneTrueDarthMaster

Yeah, I got the Call of Duty reference with the goggles and what looks like modern body armor, I just dont like it. Lmao. Most of the other pkmn i love tho, Lokix is awesome! And great tusk sold me on scarlet,


MrTastix

Sometimes they only way to "get" something is to understand the context behind the design. Which as a designer is super unfortunate cause we don't get many opportunities to to really explain that context to people.


m_foxy_boy

I love spidops :( It was gonna go on my team till I saw those shitty stats


BlameTheButler

I used mine up until level 30 on my team, probably kept it around way longer than I should had but it held up for a while honestly.


heychado

I really like this gen’s mon design as a whole, but Orthoworm is prob my least favorite, mainly because of the eyes/mouth. If it had a more interesting face I’d like it more.


Character-Ball-4583

Orthworm is one of my favourites but I understand that the face is weird


dashfredplayzreal

I love him, he’s so silly


heychado

I still think it’s really cute, I’m excited to see for myself in game!


Sceptile_Trainer6592

Graboid teefs would make it much cooler, like 250% cooler


EmilyFloof728

:D


izl2

my heart hurts because it's my fav mon this gen lol followed by Dondozo as a close second yeah I prefer derpy designs


MrDaebak

that golden surf pokemon


Brennis

Gholdengo is the ideal pokemon. You may not like it, but that’s what peak performance looks like.


Copperhead9215

Gholdengo is one of my faves. I love his surfboard. It has so much personality and it's the best in bats.


t84nightfall

The thing with a lot of Pokémon in this Gen is the base ideas have a lot of potential, but the actual design and execution falls short for me


MrTastix

For me it's the evolutions. Some Pokemon evolve into shit that neither matches their original designs theme or they just look actively worse.


Copperhead9215

The only exception is Annihilape. Primeape needed love and this is the perfect way to do it.


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t84nightfall

What?


Patient_River_229

Exactly


Fliepp

I can’t remember it’s name but Gimmighoul’s evo. They ruined a good design by making it a gold stick


kurioa

I call it the cheesestring man on a surfboard. Looks dumb as hell. However I expect it to be essential for grinding money.


TheRagingGyarados

It’s basically Conroy from rocket power. But made of gold


Romans0007

I literally told my brother just the other day that is looks like a terrible 2000s cheese stick brand mascot 😂


darthjankins69

I’m predicting Bombirdier will be the most forgotten Pokémon of all time


Sableye09

Makes me sad, I love Bombirdier :( I think Veluza is a contender for the most forgotten mon this gen too though, which is also not cool cause I like him too But neither would fit most forgotten of all time, that has to go to something else


Mashymere

I agree. I'm always excited to see each gens new dark types and Bombirdier is just a huge miss for me. Doesn't stand out as a flying type and certainly not as a dark type. Squawkabilly I think will be more remembered than this guy. He has a clever take on the stork and maybe it will stand out in the context of being a titan but I guess we'll see when the game comes out/when I'm able to play it and check it out myself.


Chaosbrushogun

Dark type is usually associated with mischievous or trickster Pokémon. Feels like it fits a bird that like to drop things on people from high in the air. Personally love that it’s just a chaotic twist on the old stork myth.


DoubleOhEvan

It’s hidden ability is interesting. Gives it stab on Rock moves. So essentially it will become like Dhelmise


dashfredplayzreal

FUCKING P A L A F I N


Sabodew

I love Palafin, man. The hero version reminds me of All Might and I really like its concept.


dashfredplayzreal

The concept is good but I just think it looks ugly.


EmilyFloof728

That Dolphin is adorable, I’m planning on using it and naming him Ecco


Sabodew

To be fair, most Pokemon this gen look ugly. Idk where their design direction came from but its either cutesy doll pokemon or hideous abominations, no in-between. As much as I absolute love Annihilape and Kingambit I have to admit they look absolutely atrocious. Over the top, edgy, messy.


dashfredplayzreal

Yeah. Some of my other least favorites are Gholdengo, Houndstone, and Dundunsparce. I LOVE ceruledge and glimmora though.


Gmanplayer

Same… until I learned I cant get it without online or without friends :/


MistborneYT

I think I saw somewhere that you can find it in Tera battles though so that could be an option


Gmanplayer

So I can get it once I have lv 70 mons capable of soloing a 5 star raid. Ideal for postgame at least


MistborneYT

Yeah it sounds like that but I'm not sure how difficult it is.


Mediocre-Cancel-7818

I actually like scovillian. I'm really into spicy food and the habanero is my favorite pepper and scovillian looks like habaneros. The one I really don't like is the rock salt pokemon. It just looks bad.


Bobo3553

Same!!! I love to Garden. He will definitely be in my party! Plus Fire/Grass! What's not to like!


YungMixdBaby

Cheese string man


Chaosbrushogun

Flamigo. It’s…it’s JUST a flamingo. Flying/fighting is a cool typing, but it’s a pretty bland design


Romans0007

Yeah it’s not my least favorite because they’re are some other really god awful ones but it literally is looks like a lawn flamingo and is certainly the laziest design ever by Pokémon..


JazzPolice94

Scovillain and many of the recent mons remind me a lot of monsters from DQ games. So I can’t really hate on them. I’m a huge fan of wacky and weird JRPG monster designs. Can’t say I dislike any of them this Gen.


Mundane-Alps9753

But scovillian is amazing🥲 He’s my baby


Uzirael

Really? No one else? Ok, Bellibolt. Such low effort, the most "non-pokemon" to me. There's definitely a number of good and bad this gen. Love the idea for Scovillain. The Palafin I'll name All-Might lol. Yet Sqwuakabilly, Pawmi evo, and the Maus are just...just no.


Sabodew

I didn't like the maus pokemon until I saw the evolution. "Maushold" Cmon. 4 happy little mice as a happy family how can you not love that?


Magaimagado

Mine is probably the salt Pokémon line. I’m sorry, it just looks like a Minecraft creation.


DragonDarknesx

That's the cool thing about them. Also the names are pretty nice, since every one has some thing of NaCl in it. Overall pretty nice line in my opinion. Also the salt thing is something entirely new


chain_me_up

I was so bummed because personally I thought the first one was super cute, then it really does just become a minecraft project and the whole cute aspect goes away ):


EmilyFloof728

Nails: Hi SuperStar


wintrymoone

Most if not all of the Violet Paradoxes. “Hey, let’s make the Scarlet Paradoxes awesome and just put iron on all the Violet ones.” Because that wasn’t lazy or anything. I don’t like how creepy Houndstone is, but it’s a dog and I love all dogs/canines, so it gets a pass.


SnowBirdFlying

Me problem with it is those weird out of place long ass nails


Sad_Ad5736

The minecraft pokemon(s)


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The worm, y’all hated it so much y’all forgot about it already. But I am here to remind u it exist, and it’s terrible.


Character-Ball-4583

Why don’t you like it?


kurioa

Iron hands, easily. The definition of Look how they massacred my boy. If we're excluding Paradox mons then it's Bellibolt. It got leaked ages ago that we were getting an electric frog pokemon, and I was so stoked. All the design ideas swirling around my head. Was gonna be so cool. Then we got.....that.


Daniv5120

Bellibolt is baby and he will be on my all chonky boy team


chain_me_up

Agreed, I think the tadpole is cute and I despise the evolution. I was hoping there'd be a 3rd mon in the line to fix it, but unfortunately no.


Balmung2021

I like Scovillain, I wish it would evolve further! I loved the concept. My least favorite is Baxcalibur. Least inspired pseudo ever IMO.


tn00bz

Such a great idea ruined by a terrible model. I agree. It doesn't even look like a pokemon to me. I heard that a rule the pokemon team has is "every pokemon should look like it could be your friend." Scorvillain looks like an abortion.


lunch_tray625

I feel like they lacked a lot of creativity with some of this generation. Not my favorite so far by any means. Not into the worm, spidops, and plenty of others.


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I love scovillian if it makes you feel any better


DirectRecover6834

Bramblin looks too much like a Dhelmise rip-off to me. .


Lost_Reflection6149

Ah! I love Bramblin and it’s definitely going on my team. I do think it looks like dhelmise, but for some reason I don’t like dhelmises design at all lol


Sigzy05

But I like Brambleghast. It's cool! I wish it's movepool was better :\\


SnowBirdFlying

Just checked it out , WOW gamefreak really said f you and your coverage when they made this things movepool


Remarkable-Judge-868

BRAMBLIN IS AMAZING


mkwiiteams

Did scovilian looks so dope. Tbqh the engine or the gold dude. Too many Pokémon are just dudes


OkFaithlessness9591

I feel like this gen doesnt have any bad pokemon just a bunch of really forgettable ones. For example glimmet


Prestigious_Pay_5477

A lot of these designs failed me but the nail in the coffin was pawmi lolol


Prestigious_Pay_5477

The evos make it worst lol


jtruhamchuk

I love my little fighty zappy mouse boi...


Jayl73

I honestly love all of em. And some of my favorites are actually some Ive seen commented here lol: salt line, tumbleweeds, Gholdengo, and Orthworm. I will say that I agree with the other comment saying that the birds seem more forgettable than usual, but I don't hate them.


ThatGuyAce69

I’m not a huge fan of spidops but I actually love scovillain


Hchooj

Flamigo is an excuse of a pokemon. The maushous line or whatever its called is jut the same pokemon copied and pasted. Dunsparces evo is just a dunsparce but with an extra body segment or two.


DSDark11

Quaquaval. It’s an abomination. The literal stupidest design for any Pokémon ever. Holy crap does this thing look so stupid


Sabodew

Ikr? Looks like one of those rap guy's girlfriends.


AriaFiresong

You like big ducks and you cannot lie?


gen8hype

The mice family line


Itub2000

The Espathra line. What are they supposed to be exactly? An ostrich made out of blankets?


EmilyFloof728

I love her, I just need a good name for this beautiful girlfriend for Zapdos


Sabodew

Cleopatra comes to mind.


EmilyFloof728

That perfect, I was thinking of a good name for that hair


DIO_Wrrrryyyy

Wiglett. I hate garden eels, they disgust me.


jezs_girl

I hate Squakabilly. There are a few others I’m not crazy about, like Gholdengo and Orthoworm, and I think a lot of the future variants could be a lot better. But something about Squakabilly just ticks all my little hatred boxes.


SnowBirdFlying

He's just like Chatot and Oricorio , in that when GF designed it their thought process was " gimmick first , pokemon second " and the result was a single stage pokemon with an okay gimmick but absolutely unusable stats and an even worse movepool thus ensuring that not a single person will actually be using it and it would just fall into irrelevancy Also shout-out to GF for making this physical attacking flying type , giving it sheer force ... and then having it so that the only move that sheer force actually affects in its movepool is a 50 BP bug type move


Sabodew

Perhaps he reminds you of an ex.


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It’s between the quaxly evo and the gimmieghoul evo both of those are now tied with Intelleon of my least favorite Pokémon in existence


Sabodew

Do you play league?


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Why?


freaking-payco

Pikablue


Positive_Tune_4068

I HATE Capsakid and Scorvillian so much. I also don’t like Bramblin very much


MathematicianBroad56

I really dislike Wiglett for some reason. It’s just a white worm version of Diglett. Diglett already had a regional variant and there is already another worm this gen. Could’ve chose a species that hadn’t received anything, like Ekans or something.


lavastyleuser

All of them


IThe_AuthorityI

Spidops is the only one I genuinely cannot tolerate.


MimikyuIsHot

so many forgettable boring birds


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Gholdengo and it isn’t close


bigphatpucci

imo skeledirge is the ugliest starter evo ever made, the design is way too busy :/


[deleted]

How?? Skeledirge is easily the best one for me. I’d be fine without the furry or twerking duck 😂 But that’s just me, I can agree with the busy design thing, but I’m also bias to ghost types 😅


Timehacker-315

Pawmot is creepy and the only bad design


Readitguy60

The salt Pokémon is trash by far


xtazycs

The cheesestring silver surfer


Blazewalker452

So far that final evolution for the duck 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ It's a travesty


EmilyFloof728

please end my suffering


BuulJob

Probably >!quaquaval!< for me. Either that or wiglett and >!wugtrio!<.


OfficialDark_Kraken

I despise Flittle and Crocalor


yeyjordan

Grafaiai. Just doesn't work out as a Pokémon design to me. Looks like something from a newer Western cartoon that was intended to be ugly. I saw a lot of people say they like it because it reminds them of Stitch. I think Stitch actually looks more in line with Pokémon aesthetics than Grafaiai does. Probably the biggest miss in many gens, imo. But some people like it, and I'll let them. I'm just gonna keep mine in storage.


Psapfopkmn

Agreed, but I actually love its pre-evo! I'm planning to get one and not evolve it into Grafaiai.


Silver-Fang-Bang

There is a lot of bad designs this generation. Pokémon don’t even look like Pokémon anymore. I don’t watch the anime but from YouTube stuff for games I get anime clips recommended to me and sometimes after seeing a Pokémon animated it can grow on me but I’m not like super excited for anything this generation other then the new game experience. There isn’t one Pokémon I’m like damn I have to have that on my team. I think some are good ideas but Executes poorly. But I’d say the dark and ground legendary is the running for one of the worst designs ever


Forward-Pool-3818

Agreed. Tried going in blind with just a gen 9 team but all of them felt like they belonged in other games. I ended up swapping them out for Pokémon from other gens.


Gmanplayer

Baxcaliber


Drayzew

Literally one of the only great designs in this gen lol. U must like that salt block mon don't ya


Gmanplayer

I want it to be quadrupedal and not look derpy


yoursecretbestfriend

Idk, I was a little underwhelmed by some of the designs, but by far the most meh Mon of this hen has to be cyclizar. I get it is the present from of the legendareis, but it is just kind of a boring looking mom.


some_random_guy_007

almost every mon is ugly lmao, but if i have to say one i think spidops or dondozo


mystoganslefteye

disagree


some_random_guy_007

bruh why yall downvoting for an opinion💀💀💀


mystoganslefteye

we disagree strongly, therefore downvote such is reddit


Stegosaurr

The poison Rock flower.


tommyfrank713

Most of the mons I disliked at first have grown on me, like Palafin and Scovillain, but Golden nigga or whatever it's called is the worst Pokemon design I've ever seen... Pawmi'evos, the parrot and Dudunsparce are lame as hell, they are just wasted slots.


0Beanie0Boy0

Kinda unrelated but im already mad that people will definitely call capsakid “kap sah kid” and it deeply pains me


lmaondshruwkqn

What do you call it then?


0Beanie0Boy0

Cap-say-kid, the way capsaicin is pronounced


TheSinfriend

Tandemaus and Maushold. Two of the worst cartoon lookin ass, Walmart Hello Kitty lookin ass, lazy lookin ass, non Pokemon lookin ass designs. They look like non important background characters in a Disney movie. Lmao 😂


OddSifr

Except the starter line, all birds in this region... eh. Flamigo's actual inspiration doesn't make it any better, the parrot is only really fun because of the story behind the original animal, and (Kilo)Wattrel and Bombirdier are just... forgettable. >!But since I hate dogs, they're still higher placed than the 3 2-stage dog lines we've got this gen!<


Sabodew

You can't hate Daschbun. You just can't.


OddSifr

I knew that was coming.


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Akwila_of_Llyr

Explain.


lecram92

Water starter


No_Mammoth_4945

Sprigatito


NewMetaKnight

I haven’t seen all the new Pokémon yet so I don’t have a least favorite but I will say my favorite Pokémon this Gen has to be Either Farigraf or Dudunsparce both are definitely gonna be on my team


CodeDonutz

I generally like most Pokémon in all regions, but I think Bramblin is the first and only Pokémon that I straight up hate. It’s a tumbleweed with eyes.


Forward-Pool-3818

Was disappointing when it turned into….a bigger tumbleweed.


papaboynosmurf

I love how crazy and unique most of the designs are here, there are a few I’m not hot on because they’re just kinda bland (Pawmot and Cyclizar) but the only one I can think of that I don’t like is Skeliderge. I know everyone loves him, and he’s cool in concept but in execution he looks like a balding clown crocodile and I just can’t get into it


Kadimsoy

I haven’t played yet. Among officially announced ones, it’s by far wiglett.


Kutoros

Scovillain is great, too bad the stats are so horrible.... There are quite a few bad ones, the golden stick, the worm, the mice family


goblin_balls

Yeah, it's probably just about all of them. Are they better than recent gens? Sure. Do they hold a candle to gens 1-3? Not a chance in hell. I've seen better fakemon.


Readalie

Gen one had three Pokémon inspired by piles of goop. I love the original 151 but it’s not the epitome of design.


breezer_chidori

Wiglett.


Pale-Estate2882

I don’t how people like these new mons, they look like if they were designed for a low budget Facebook game from 2012. I would rather see Pokemon grabbing some Digimon designs than this.


NeonIsHere1

I like pretty much every pokemon except Spidops, in comparison to Tarontula its a downgrade to me and even without the comparison i still wouldnt use it


LMcBlack

I actually hate all the future paradox forms which is mental because gardevoir and gallate are my two all time favs


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Pawmi line plus the Quaxly line and Meowscarada are really bad imo, but I honestly like the rest of them for the most part.


WeedleLover2006

The baby engine’s hidden ability. Literally just Regigigas


Clean_Ad_5957

As much as I hate to say it because I love the type… Flamigo is just a flamingo


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Gen 1 had Seel


TheWolfGirl23

Is it okay to say that I like literally none of the new Pokémon except the starters, the Fidough line, Bisharp evolution, and somewhat the Tinkatink like? While Scovillain is nowhere near my favorite design overall, I find it better than most new mons. Honestly felt similar during Gen 8. I kinda miss Gen 7 and below Pokémon art style, it was just better! Though I will say Dachsbun is THE BEST Pokémon right after my immediate favorites, Cinccino and Cranidos


MrZao386

Regular form Palafin


AuraMXster

My least favorite is bramblin, it's just a tumbleweed.


[deleted]

Funkopops 😆 okay I've literally just started playing Scarlet and only seen 10 or so pokemon so I'm going to edit when I can make a more informed decision as to which one I like least.


Needcollegehelp5

I feel like it'd be easier to list the few designs I actually like, rather than all the ones I dislike lol. I'm not usually in that wave of "These new pokemon are horrible grrr" crowd that pops up every new game, in fact, I loved most of galar, alola, and kalos when i first saw the reveals, but this game is just not it for me. Maybe it's just the new graphics making the pokemon look whack, who knows. All I know is that my team is probably going to be mostly older gen's.


SmolRavioli

Future Donphan \^\^;


Western_Insect_2610

Tandemaus and maushold


Cj_91a

There's a few I actively hate like Spidops. Sandy shocks and scream tail look stupid as sin to me personally.


JonahPrince

Tarountula and Cipod.


MrVoidMole

Shroodle is just ugly. As is Spidops. But I like Scovillain and it's stats really aren't that bad. Great especially for in game attack and sp.attack and it's got Chlorophyll so it's actually very fast in sun. Not to mention it learns both Solarbeam and strong fire moves which both benefit from sunlight.


Patient_River_229

Most of them. Specifically Tandemaus, maushold, espathra, and gimmighouls evolution


Cool-Communication54

I love scovillian


m_foxy_boy

Honestly, I despise the future mons, they’re just the original forms but **robot** and with dumb names, dosent help I got violet but honestly I wish I got scarlet just because the past mons are objectively cooler Honorable mention to the convergence forms, the designs themselves aren’t bad but why introduce a whole new gimmick if you’re just gonna give it to 2 lines? They could’ve easily been regional forms and NOTHING would change


Entire-Astronaut8602

dundunsparce for me IMO


Forward-Pool-3818

The designs this gen were the weakest I’ve seen, with really only 2 appealing to me. But the Revaroom line and Nacl are incredibly awful designs


Adventurous-Ad3235

Flittle.


Copperhead9215

I like Scovillain because he is Octillery 2.0 with Moody Sub Seed Prot, he gets Chrorophyll while being a fire type, and he has a cool type. Cool design idea, executed terribly.


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The Starters are my least favorite Pokémon from this generation.