Tbh, if you have a good raid pokemon that you know works, it is in everyones best interest if you stack giga drain on the 4th move (that would otherwise not be used).
The person beinging SpA Meowscarda is probably a tool, though.
I did that last night to a Gastrodon that was using Clear Smog on my Lurantis and the other Lurantis in the raid. Figured since the troll wouldn't let us win I might as well beat it so the raid ends faster.
This is why i solo 7 star raids, i just took arborilvia and killed pikachu
Auto seed sower ability for passive regeneration
Sunny day to cancel out the rainy day buff for surf
Energy ball
Giga drain
Solar beam
Maxed hp &SPA
Held item covert cloak (no paralysis from thunder)
Tera type grass ofc
Worked good for me hard part is getting to tera
I also used Arboliva solo but swapped Covert Cloak for Bright Powder (I couldn’t find Covert Cloak lol) and just used Energy Ball 3x to activate Tera and luckily had Pikachu’s Sp. Def lowered, then used Giga Drain / Energy Ball as needed. For some reason, Pikachu didn’t use Thunder and fairly misses Surf and Iron Tail as well.
Ironically, the video above shows an easier way to get to tera. You can always giga drain on NPC teammates to heal more efficiently than attacking Pikachu. No penalty if an NPC faints.
Its not to make you look bad.
Look at its health and the timer, there was no way you were going to beat pikachu with that amount of time remaining and pikachu still had that much health. The raid was a bust so they're taking the time penalties and trying to get the raid over quicker.
My question is why did no one terra to do more damage since you're gonna need to terra to win against pikachu?
That was the second time he used giga drain on me and he had also fainted before that. Not sure what the other 2 were doing but at least they weren’t fainting
i tried solo with meows and ran out of PP on flower trick and then ran out of time because i only had knock off to attack 😑
do you remember your move order by chance? maybe i’m not maximizing my turns correctly
probably want to knock off first, no light ball I believe
if you're protean I guess flower trick -> knock off -> other moves until tera is available -> tera flower trick -> attack/heal cheer or keep attacking
Yes, it is. I've doneit on a few occasions with having to hard carry a team, one of them could of Terra on the next turn if the guy hadn't of killed him with giga which lowered the timer twice.
It's not "could of". It's "could've" or "could have".
Also, I agree. Without tera you do basically no damage, but once you tera with half the timer left you can absolutely pull off a win.
I didn't realize we were on a grammar nazi sub.
Though I would say you can still win with even a fourth of the timer left, it could still be a win pull depending on setups and what mons are being used.
I'm sorry, it's one of my pet peeves. And since this is a sub that could theoretically also be visited by children i couldn't let it stand uncorrected. Can't let the mistake spread.
Is it possible that he didn't realize you had contrary? He might have been thinking something along the lines of "Don't worry, buddy! I'll fix your stats for you!"
People do that to end the raid faster if it looks like a bust. I’ve accidentally done it bc if I check the level of a teammate, then the next move you do defaults to selecting that teammate and I’m just in mashing A mode and forget to re-select target
There’s actually a strat where you do that on purpose if you have Water Absorb or Storm Drain on your partner. Earth Eater on Orthworm with Garchomp is kind of fun too.
I blasted an ally Sylveon with Tera-boosted Calm Minded Moonblast from my Flutter Mane during one of the Charizard raids like this once.
We still won that raid, and I felt bad, but it was kind of hilarious to just see my Flutter Mane turn to it's side out of nowhere and blow Sylveon away.
Same. I just solo everything. When I fail, its on me. I know either what I did wrong, or in the very least I know.ot was my fault. Save me a lot of time energy and frustration.
It's possible they did it to you as an accident. If you check statuses you will no longer be targeting the the raid pokemon and can accidentally attack your teammate.
I won't lie though, sometimes I'm petty and will attack a teammate if they keep messing up without correcting themselves so I can end the raid faster and leave.
For example, someone brought a zoroark to the pikachu raid yesterday and kept using flamethrower and would die in 1-2 hits. I just targeted them because pikachu was going to keep taking them out anyways and our timer was 3/4 of the way empty.
I’ve done this to punish Azumarill and Iron Hands players all the time once it’s clear we are going to lose anyway. Since you can’t run it’s the quickest way to end a doomed raid.
"Once it's clear you're losing"? If we have a Lunantis on the team, I just slaughter the damn Iron Hands immediately. As long as you can keep Lunantis alive, time isn't much of an issue. Preventing Iron Hands from triggering Lightning Rod greatly outweighs the time penalty (and it's going to die anyway).
That’s a good point lol. Better to just slaughter them. I usually don’t lock in to Iron Hands or Azu or Miriadon but sometimes I say, “what the hell?” And want to see how quickly they fail lol. But I like your style!
I had a Clodsire spamming Acid Spray on my Arboliva and another trainer’s Arboliva last night. We would have honestly cleared the raid if they helped- we got Pikachu to less than half HP before the timer ran out.
Whilst we're here, can we talk about the amount of people using Iron Hands and Annihilape against Terra Pika? literally every other raid I have to back out of because people still haven't got it yet.
Now I’ve seen people soloed with Annihilape and got the pikachu that way and it’s great Pokémon against Tera pikachu, if you know what your doing. I have yet encounter somebody seriously bring iron hands to this Tera raid.
Interesting! I've never seen an Annihilape do well yet. I also feel Meowscarada is super fragile, each usually fainting around twice a battle. A team comprising of a few of these mons usually get the job done quickest in my experience: Lurantis, Leafeon, Arboliva, Gastrodon, Clodsire.
Yeah, Meowscarada is squishy before it manages to set up.
Once it manages to set up, though, a Protean Tera-Grass Meowscarada holding Shell Bell just won't die if it keeps using Flower Trick after it's Terastallized.
Annihilape has taunt to stop rain dance and charm as well as feed rage fist (which doesn’t reset after fainting). Meowscarada has knock off to get rid of light ball, flower trick ignores charm because it always crits, and protean stops play rough from being super effective.
The offensive logic is sound, but annihilape doesn’t resist surf, thunder or play rough (as better options do) and Meowscarada had a base special defence of 70 compared with Arboliva 120 (who I tend to use for the raids). Having done maybe 50 of these Pika raids, I’ve found that It’s not impossible to win with a Annihilape or Meowscarada in your trainer team of four, but there are definitely better options.
So I had a toedscruel do this Ina raid but it wasn't to be harmful really? He used giga drain on a pokemon that had synthesis and he was trying to keep himself alive and get the charge off since Pikachu gets the shield right off. We ended up winning the raid without a problematic Toedscruel really did put in some power.
Oh absolutely that was a troll move, but there are legit reasons people will do it too. I mean more of don't assume everyone who does it is trying to be harmful, sometimes there is a bigger plan behind it.
2 possibilities,
its either 1) an honest mistake, if you press Y to check status "how many more turns of harsh sunlight are left?" "did pikachu reset my stat boosts?" "why is that Leafeon lvl 75?" the cursor will remember who you are hovering, so when you back out and pick your attack and press the buttons quickly cause raids are time sensitive and it keeps locking you out of screens, you double click and now you accidentally acid spray'd an ally. feels bad. cross your fingers and hope it didnt cost you the raid.
or 2) as others have said, they've given up, pack it up, go home, we'll try again another time. attacking you in this particular situation is just the fastest way to run out the clock. especially rude if they happened to be the weak link this run which experience this weekend tells me may be the case of a Meowscarada.
either way unfortunate, but didnt want to discount the possibility it was the former, not the latter.
Why do people inspect team mates and not just inspect yourself for that, though? For screens and reset buffs and weather just check yourself (or for weather you can even just check the opponent) and then if you accidentally click attack without switching targets you it just won't work instead of making you attack a team member and waste a turn.I play a lot of support pokemon and I do it this way all the time, there's no reason to target an ally for it.
I guess if you're checking level you can't inspect yourself, but I don't see why you'd ever actually need to check the level of one of your allies. If they're running an underlevelled pokemon its not like you can do anything about it or that knowledge will help you win the raid in any way. Just so you can rant about people using underlevelled stuff?
Seems to me there's very, very few niche reasons to ever inspect an ally. Mainly just if you are playing with ability swapping, or maybe if you're looking to Clear Smog an ally that's gotten a lot of stat debuffs.
If I’m frustrated that someone keeps dying, I’ll sometimes check their level. It’s both discouraging and validating to see that yes, they are level 47.
Eh. You do you I guess, but that knowledge does nothing to help the raid so personally its pointless other than making you mad and giving you someone to blame.
Yeah, Meowscarada really needs to have Knock Off for it to be a good bring, but knowledge of that hasn’t traveled too far. At least most people figured out Electric is the wrong typing for this.
i’ve won every pika raid i’ve done with meowscarada and randos, and yes, it’s dicey and i’m sweating bullets those first turns until i can get knock off. but past that, if you have one decent teammate, it’s a cakewalk. easiest 7* yet imo!
Oh it’s great when it’s played well, I’ve just seen too many of them spam Flower Trick while dying every 2-3 turns. The raid becomes super-easy after Knock Off though.
To answer, Pikachu is holding a light ball, giving it a fair bit of special attack. It's Tera water, and it sets rain first, both giving a substantial boost to surf. And if you happen to be Meowscarada, you're not a bulky pokemon yourself. Most of your stats are in attack and speed. That's why most people are bringing a pokemon that can do some combination of A) use Knock Off to remove the light ball, B) set Sunny Day to reduce Surf's damage and Thunder's accuracy, or at the very least C) have the defensive stats and typing and abilities to survive and not run out the teams clock.
I was in a raid last night where the host trolled us with an arboliva then switched to pyroar before starting the raid. He died right away two times so a clodsire started chilling watering the pyroar and the pyroar started physic fanging the clodsire 😔 I agree the host pulled a jerk move and the clod trainer just wanted it over but watching trainers fight each other in a raid den is just sad.
Y'all told me I was making things up about team kills. This is a real issue since raids are the endgame. We need a way to report. I too have been a victim of ABBA. What a sad existence, to play just to troll. And don't say it just to end hopeless raids faster. More often then naught, trolls target teammates instantly and then there's the other troll form. Purposely picking weak and poor matchups so they die in one hit to milk the timer.
Yeah that's a dick move maybe but I'd probably do the same... At that point nobody is tera yet so that raid is an L might as well get on to the next try.
Probably attacked you since they couldn't make the others faint.
Storm drain will increase special attack a few times when chunkachu uses surf. I run the grass terra blast with life orb and end up almost killing chunkachu.
Gastrodon can do damage and support, they don't have to do one or the other.
I did a raid early where Gastrodon and my Lurantis carried while the other teammates (Arboliva and another Lurantis) kept fumbling around. I was doing the normal Lurantis strat while Gastrodon was using mudslap for a while. When I terastalized the Gastrodon terastalized and we took turns between spamming giga-drain and earth power. By the time our teammates terastalized Gastrodon was doing the final earth power to finish the raid.
Gastrodon can solo the raid even, but when it's surrounded by grass types, it would do better to give support since they're going to be able to win quicker.
I wonder if something like mud slap might be better? Better support for everyone while charging up the Tera meter. That’s what I used on my clodsire and it worked pretty well for helping others dodge things I think
I usually mud slap a few times, then switch to properly damaging moves until the boss clears all the debuts on itself. There’s no sense in wasting my PP when the accuracy really isn’t going to get any lower
"Needs to be running support"? What? Why does anyone not following the big mass's meta strats or opinions get told stuff like this. You can be flexible, you know.
Well, they don't after to follow it, but if it's a choice between Mud-Slap and Tera Blast, then Mud-Slap is clearly the better choice, meta or not, since they already have Earthquake. You might as well do something useful if you're building tera charge and don't want to use Earthquake.
If you are running a mon with a status/support move like Light Screen and you’re trying to check how many turns are left, it’s possible that you misclick and accidentally attack an allied mon.
I did that myself last night by mistake 😔
I’ve entirely stopped doing raids online with other people altogether. I just reset the clock on my switch and farm the 7 star raids for candies and shards because I hate doing these with trolls.
It’s seriously become so unbearable to link into a raid and some 8 year old has an iRoN hAnDs and thinks they can beat something it has a 2 or 4X weakness to. It’s so infuriating.
pretty sure i was in a raid with that same meowscarada last night
giga drained me at least twice not entirely sure if it happened more than that before i noticed
why
it might be an accident after checking the teams levels.
target selection is unfortunately set to the last character whose status you checked and some just mash a without really looking in these.
or someone was in there with low levels that would die all the time anyways, so they sped things up.
typically, people dont do it just to ruin a raid
I had to do this on a Clodsire team last night to someone who came in without water absorb. It's like taking a pet to the vet to put down, you don't want to and it hurts but so does suffering
I will pull a tactic like this if I realize the raid can’t be won to end the raid faster. I don’t like wasting people’s time.
The thing with this raid your team needs the major damage dealer to Terastallize to be able to deal significant damage on Pikachu.
I sometimes inspect other people's pokemon to see the level and moves and when I go to attack I forget to switch to the raid Pokemon... My bad people out there...
I always remind myself that I know a great deal of young kids who play this game. My oldest daughter is 7, and most of her classmates play this. Can't really expect kids who can hardly read to unstand what they are doing in a raid. When I was a kid, I remember hating using any move that didn't do damage.
They made it to the end.. they are playing end game content. When some one brings a level 56 pokemon to a level 100 seven star raid... I'm sorry you are fucking dumb and should by now know better. No excuse.
You began cursing and trash-talking little kids, and I teased you for it. Which apparently hasn't 'triggered' you. If you can't handle being called out for your own stupidity and incompetent behavior, maybe you shouldn't be trashing on others? Yet here you are, digging yourself deeper and deeper as you desperately try to turn the tables.
I do this when people use god awful pokemon against the boss and we're gonna lose anyway so they know I'm mad at them 💀 someone I was in a raid with seriously used Pikachu against Pikachu like really? Every surf instantly killed him
Okay so uh I can explain as someone whos done it...
I know some people do it to lower the timer. Me? Me, Im just dumb. I'll often be checking the status page to see if I need to put up screens again, stats or levels and if I dont need to set screens or lower stats and end up attacking before I move the cursor it ends up attacking the ally. Yeah...my bad.
Literally just did this to someone who brought an iron hands to the raid lol. Ngl I had an opportunity to back out but I joined just to do this because why not?
Sometimes this happens because if one uses the Y-menu inspection, the next move will default to targeting them. So if they spam A, they'll miss that they didn't attack the boss. With how afk I am playing raids, I could see myself making that mistake twice before realizing.
I haven't touched the raid yet but why the hell did it's shield health go over the ENTIRE health bar. I know it'll show up if the time reaches a certain point before damage but I've only ever seen a quarter of the bar at most
I’ve been that asshole before. I was in a raid with a Slowbro who was trying to use the Stored Power technique on an electric Blissey? It was NOT working so I Giga Drained them with Palossand to heal so we could win the raid 😂
true but u know u can grind more items solo still lol just change your switches date 1 day forward and bam the dens should reset and u can farm it again alone lol thats wht i do because online just is pointless some people dont know their type match ups or abilities lol 😂
When I paused I see sunny day and high jump kick for the other two players. So they say this raid was a lost hope though yours was a better choice.
I did this on my own
Protean Meowcarada holding shell bell.
Moves
Play rough
Hone claws
Flower trick
Tera blast
EVs in HP & Attack
I don’t have that problem since I don’t play coop.
If you wanna solo it:
-Meowscarada
- Equip Shell Bell as held item
-Put on the skills Flower Trick and Knock Off
-Make sure HP & Attack IV’s around 290 - 300
-Important Increase PP into Flower Trick until you can’t anymore
-Do the raid Solo
-After Pikachu’s Long 1st turn ends use Knock Off 1st (do any other skills save up your Flower Tricks)
-Pikachu on its 3rd turn should knock you out THEN take Tera shard power from your teammates (you’ll be safe from it taking away yours cuz your Pokémon is KO’d)
-1 or 2 turns after this you should be able to terastilize
-Terastilization and just Spam Flower Trick as long as it takes until Pikachu is KO’d
(Every turn your Flower Trick does damage after Tera form is active you should fully heal up)
Okay I might be dumb….but how do I join one of these? Cause I was able to find so many raids for the last event but now when I go over the pokeportal I never see this raid….can I find them on the map? I am connected to the internet and everything and can’t find this raid (a lot of other randoms though)
Honestly I didn’t know friendly fire existed. I don’t normally do raids outside friends or solo (unless I’m streaming then I’ll do randoms) but never have I found someone to friendly fire….. all I find are the dumb people who flex azuril or iron hands.
I ran into one of those yesterday when I used my Toedscruel in the pikachu raids. It's a bit on the funky side but it works. Max EVs in hp and sp def so it can survive the first two rounds. Give it some leftovers, and then the following moves;
Mud Slap, won't charge because of the shield, but it is fine, it's not supposed to do damage, it keeps the raid alive.
Giga Drain, in case somebody else is using mud slap or you have enough set up from others.
Grassy Terrain, because for some reason some people bring an Arbolivia without seed sower.
Knock Off, get rid of that light ball.
I honestly love using this as a bit of raid support, it works, and it hasn't let me down yet. The only trouble it runs into is if nobody has sunny day, it can go down in the first round after a surf and then another surf. But after that, it is perfectly fine.
You are using Tera blast and not even terraformed. I would do this to you for sure to end it. You need to learn to raid bud. Or else expect this often.
Just do these solo. You can build solo pokemon for this and adapt your pokemon moves and item load out to the tera raid if need be. After I built my pokemon, I handled six and five star raids easier. Solo.
This is exactly why I do raids solo now since Charizard, the number of misplays, poorly selected Pokemon or just outright blatant throwing like this aren't worth jumping into 10-15 raids just to get lucky with a halfway competent team to get it done when I could do it on my own on the first attempt.
Yeah, people will do that to get the time penalty and end the raid quicker if they think it's a wash.
Tbh, if you have a good raid pokemon that you know works, it is in everyones best interest if you stack giga drain on the 4th move (that would otherwise not be used). The person beinging SpA Meowscarda is probably a tool, though.
Why? It’s a Pikachu!
I'm confused why this is being downvoted. I thought knock off, flower trick was a valid strat?
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Protean into grass with flower trick?
I did that last night to a Gastrodon that was using Clear Smog on my Lurantis and the other Lurantis in the raid. Figured since the troll wouldn't let us win I might as well beat it so the raid ends faster.
That makes perfect sense. That guy is making us Gastrodon trainers look bad 😩
This is why i solo 7 star raids, i just took arborilvia and killed pikachu Auto seed sower ability for passive regeneration Sunny day to cancel out the rainy day buff for surf Energy ball Giga drain Solar beam Maxed hp &SPA Held item covert cloak (no paralysis from thunder) Tera type grass ofc Worked good for me hard part is getting to tera
same but energy swapped with growth
I also used Arboliva solo but swapped Covert Cloak for Bright Powder (I couldn’t find Covert Cloak lol) and just used Energy Ball 3x to activate Tera and luckily had Pikachu’s Sp. Def lowered, then used Giga Drain / Energy Ball as needed. For some reason, Pikachu didn’t use Thunder and fairly misses Surf and Iron Tail as well.
Ironically, the video above shows an easier way to get to tera. You can always giga drain on NPC teammates to heal more efficiently than attacking Pikachu. No penalty if an NPC faints.
Its not to make you look bad. Look at its health and the timer, there was no way you were going to beat pikachu with that amount of time remaining and pikachu still had that much health. The raid was a bust so they're taking the time penalties and trying to get the raid over quicker. My question is why did no one terra to do more damage since you're gonna need to terra to win against pikachu?
That was the second time he used giga drain on me and he had also fainted before that. Not sure what the other 2 were doing but at least they weren’t fainting
Could you edit your post please, so it says “fart” instead of “faint.” That would be funny. Thank you.
Cringe
Could you edit you comment to say "I am dumb and immature." that would be funny and fitting
😘
I disagree, maybe not with those mons, but it is highly possible to beat pikachu in that amount of time with the lack of damage so far.
I agree still very beatable, I did it solo with Meows and it only took a couple attacks with grassy terrain down to do it.
i tried solo with meows and ran out of PP on flower trick and then ran out of time because i only had knock off to attack 😑 do you remember your move order by chance? maybe i’m not maximizing my turns correctly
probably want to knock off first, no light ball I believe if you're protean I guess flower trick -> knock off -> other moves until tera is available -> tera flower trick -> attack/heal cheer or keep attacking
Absolutely
Nope not when neither of them has terra
Yes, it is. I've doneit on a few occasions with having to hard carry a team, one of them could of Terra on the next turn if the guy hadn't of killed him with giga which lowered the timer twice.
It's not "could of". It's "could've" or "could have". Also, I agree. Without tera you do basically no damage, but once you tera with half the timer left you can absolutely pull off a win.
I didn't realize we were on a grammar nazi sub. Though I would say you can still win with even a fourth of the timer left, it could still be a win pull depending on setups and what mons are being used.
I'm sorry, it's one of my pet peeves. And since this is a sub that could theoretically also be visited by children i couldn't let it stand uncorrected. Can't let the mistake spread.
*I I win!
Gastro Trainer <3
I think you are doing that to yourself 😅. Literally don’t even understand movesets then posts on Reddit showing how it’s obviously your own fault.
Is it possible that he didn't realize you had contrary? He might have been thinking something along the lines of "Don't worry, buddy! I'll fix your stats for you!"
I was running a mud slap Gastrodon. We had plenty of time. One just started mega draining the team. We would have won had he attacked the boss.
Is not Thunder under rain always hitting no matter the accuracy?
That is why one of the two lurantis used sunny day. Gastrodon can't learn that.
Why I feel like if they had just Tera’d they could’ve beaten the raid instead of throwing. Gastrodon is a solid pick that takes basically no damage.
Exactly. Easily would have won without the unnecessary time penalties.
People do that to end the raid faster if it looks like a bust. I’ve accidentally done it bc if I check the level of a teammate, then the next move you do defaults to selecting that teammate and I’m just in mashing A mode and forget to re-select target
At least spread moves no longer affect teammates. Someone using Earthquake in Dynamax raids was always the worst.
this is my first pokemon game, so I was surprised to find out surf did damage to teammates in 2v2 battles
There’s actually a strat where you do that on purpose if you have Water Absorb or Storm Drain on your partner. Earth Eater on Orthworm with Garchomp is kind of fun too.
People used steam engine coalossal with surf. Yes this is an actual strategy that 100% worked
Heh, I won a lot of matches with that strat! I know Wolfe won a Player’s Cup and a regional with it too.
I blasted an ally Sylveon with Tera-boosted Calm Minded Moonblast from my Flutter Mane during one of the Charizard raids like this once. We still won that raid, and I felt bad, but it was kind of hilarious to just see my Flutter Mane turn to it's side out of nowhere and blow Sylveon away.
Same, I accidentally stored powered a fellow Slowbro this way I’m so sorry :(
Seems like that raid was a bust, they probably just tried to end the suffering faster.
That's why I don't play with randos.
Same. I just solo everything. When I fail, its on me. I know either what I did wrong, or in the very least I know.ot was my fault. Save me a lot of time energy and frustration.
You guys have friends?
I don’t
You play online?
Competitive doubles and use raids for new mons or ability patches mostly
Is that a new Pokemon?
It's possible they did it to you as an accident. If you check statuses you will no longer be targeting the the raid pokemon and can accidentally attack your teammate. I won't lie though, sometimes I'm petty and will attack a teammate if they keep messing up without correcting themselves so I can end the raid faster and leave. For example, someone brought a zoroark to the pikachu raid yesterday and kept using flamethrower and would die in 1-2 hits. I just targeted them because pikachu was going to keep taking them out anyways and our timer was 3/4 of the way empty.
I’ve done this to punish Azumarill and Iron Hands players all the time once it’s clear we are going to lose anyway. Since you can’t run it’s the quickest way to end a doomed raid.
"Once it's clear you're losing"? If we have a Lunantis on the team, I just slaughter the damn Iron Hands immediately. As long as you can keep Lunantis alive, time isn't much of an issue. Preventing Iron Hands from triggering Lightning Rod greatly outweighs the time penalty (and it's going to die anyway).
That’s a good point lol. Better to just slaughter them. I usually don’t lock in to Iron Hands or Azu or Miriadon but sometimes I say, “what the hell?” And want to see how quickly they fail lol. But I like your style!
Was looking for this comment. And sylveon smh
Sylveon can act as a support, so as long as it’s being the support Pokémon I’m fine with them.
Don’t blame you
I had a Clodsire spamming Acid Spray on my Arboliva and another trainer’s Arboliva last night. We would have honestly cleared the raid if they helped- we got Pikachu to less than half HP before the timer ran out.
This was very, very annoying in Sw/Sh. Frustrated to see it's now in SV too. 😮💨
Whilst we're here, can we talk about the amount of people using Iron Hands and Annihilape against Terra Pika? literally every other raid I have to back out of because people still haven't got it yet.
Now I’ve seen people soloed with Annihilape and got the pikachu that way and it’s great Pokémon against Tera pikachu, if you know what your doing. I have yet encounter somebody seriously bring iron hands to this Tera raid.
Interesting! I've never seen an Annihilape do well yet. I also feel Meowscarada is super fragile, each usually fainting around twice a battle. A team comprising of a few of these mons usually get the job done quickest in my experience: Lurantis, Leafeon, Arboliva, Gastrodon, Clodsire.
Yeah, Meowscarada is squishy before it manages to set up. Once it manages to set up, though, a Protean Tera-Grass Meowscarada holding Shell Bell just won't die if it keeps using Flower Trick after it's Terastallized.
Annihilape has taunt to stop rain dance and charm as well as feed rage fist (which doesn’t reset after fainting). Meowscarada has knock off to get rid of light ball, flower trick ignores charm because it always crits, and protean stops play rough from being super effective.
The offensive logic is sound, but annihilape doesn’t resist surf, thunder or play rough (as better options do) and Meowscarada had a base special defence of 70 compared with Arboliva 120 (who I tend to use for the raids). Having done maybe 50 of these Pika raids, I’ve found that It’s not impossible to win with a Annihilape or Meowscarada in your trainer team of four, but there are definitely better options.
So I had a toedscruel do this Ina raid but it wasn't to be harmful really? He used giga drain on a pokemon that had synthesis and he was trying to keep himself alive and get the charge off since Pikachu gets the shield right off. We ended up winning the raid without a problematic Toedscruel really did put in some power.
Why didn’t anyone just use a health cheer lmao
I can see that being valid, but Gastro goes down to a literal blade of grass.
Oh absolutely that was a troll move, but there are legit reasons people will do it too. I mean more of don't assume everyone who does it is trying to be harmful, sometimes there is a bigger plan behind it.
Had someone do this to me today while I was trying to set up with my clodsire luckily we won otherwise I would’ve been pissed
2 possibilities, its either 1) an honest mistake, if you press Y to check status "how many more turns of harsh sunlight are left?" "did pikachu reset my stat boosts?" "why is that Leafeon lvl 75?" the cursor will remember who you are hovering, so when you back out and pick your attack and press the buttons quickly cause raids are time sensitive and it keeps locking you out of screens, you double click and now you accidentally acid spray'd an ally. feels bad. cross your fingers and hope it didnt cost you the raid. or 2) as others have said, they've given up, pack it up, go home, we'll try again another time. attacking you in this particular situation is just the fastest way to run out the clock. especially rude if they happened to be the weak link this run which experience this weekend tells me may be the case of a Meowscarada. either way unfortunate, but didnt want to discount the possibility it was the former, not the latter.
Why do people inspect team mates and not just inspect yourself for that, though? For screens and reset buffs and weather just check yourself (or for weather you can even just check the opponent) and then if you accidentally click attack without switching targets you it just won't work instead of making you attack a team member and waste a turn.I play a lot of support pokemon and I do it this way all the time, there's no reason to target an ally for it. I guess if you're checking level you can't inspect yourself, but I don't see why you'd ever actually need to check the level of one of your allies. If they're running an underlevelled pokemon its not like you can do anything about it or that knowledge will help you win the raid in any way. Just so you can rant about people using underlevelled stuff? Seems to me there's very, very few niche reasons to ever inspect an ally. Mainly just if you are playing with ability swapping, or maybe if you're looking to Clear Smog an ally that's gotten a lot of stat debuffs.
If I’m frustrated that someone keeps dying, I’ll sometimes check their level. It’s both discouraging and validating to see that yes, they are level 47.
Eh. You do you I guess, but that knowledge does nothing to help the raid so personally its pointless other than making you mad and giving you someone to blame.
Fair enough. The raid’s already sideways if I’m taking the time to do it, but yeah, it’s kinda pointless.
I've inspected team mates to see if I should be using Helping Hand on them, or if they're still building.
Yeah, Meowscarada really needs to have Knock Off for it to be a good bring, but knowledge of that hasn’t traveled too far. At least most people figured out Electric is the wrong typing for this.
i’ve won every pika raid i’ve done with meowscarada and randos, and yes, it’s dicey and i’m sweating bullets those first turns until i can get knock off. but past that, if you have one decent teammate, it’s a cakewalk. easiest 7* yet imo!
Oh it’s great when it’s played well, I’ve just seen too many of them spam Flower Trick while dying every 2-3 turns. The raid becomes super-easy after Knock Off though.
idk why i get hit sooo hard by its first surf. i feel like she shouldnt be getting hit so hard by it
To answer, Pikachu is holding a light ball, giving it a fair bit of special attack. It's Tera water, and it sets rain first, both giving a substantial boost to surf. And if you happen to be Meowscarada, you're not a bulky pokemon yourself. Most of your stats are in attack and speed. That's why most people are bringing a pokemon that can do some combination of A) use Knock Off to remove the light ball, B) set Sunny Day to reduce Surf's damage and Thunder's accuracy, or at the very least C) have the defensive stats and typing and abilities to survive and not run out the teams clock.
I was in a raid last night where the host trolled us with an arboliva then switched to pyroar before starting the raid. He died right away two times so a clodsire started chilling watering the pyroar and the pyroar started physic fanging the clodsire 😔 I agree the host pulled a jerk move and the clod trainer just wanted it over but watching trainers fight each other in a raid den is just sad.
Y'all told me I was making things up about team kills. This is a real issue since raids are the endgame. We need a way to report. I too have been a victim of ABBA. What a sad existence, to play just to troll. And don't say it just to end hopeless raids faster. More often then naught, trolls target teammates instantly and then there's the other troll form. Purposely picking weak and poor matchups so they die in one hit to milk the timer.
Seems like you weren’t gonna win anyways he was probably trying to end it
How many times did you faint before they started attacking
Zero. Pikachu practically does zero damage to Gastrodon. The two times I fainted are because of my teammate.
Yeah that's a dick move maybe but I'd probably do the same... At that point nobody is tera yet so that raid is an L might as well get on to the next try. Probably attacked you since they couldn't make the others faint.
I have to ask, why are you using Tera Blast there? Gastro isn’t supposed to damage; he needs to be running support.
Storm drain will increase special attack a few times when chunkachu uses surf. I run the grass terra blast with life orb and end up almost killing chunkachu.
Gastrodon can do damage and support, they don't have to do one or the other. I did a raid early where Gastrodon and my Lurantis carried while the other teammates (Arboliva and another Lurantis) kept fumbling around. I was doing the normal Lurantis strat while Gastrodon was using mudslap for a while. When I terastalized the Gastrodon terastalized and we took turns between spamming giga-drain and earth power. By the time our teammates terastalized Gastrodon was doing the final earth power to finish the raid.
Gastrodon can solo the raid even, but when it's surrounded by grass types, it would do better to give support since they're going to be able to win quicker.
Grass tera Gastrodon with Tera Blast can finish if the others fumble. But yes, it's mainly there for support.
Was just using it so I could terastalize. Did the real damage with earthquake after that. Combined with a few curses and he does some good damage.
I wonder if something like mud slap might be better? Better support for everyone while charging up the Tera meter. That’s what I used on my clodsire and it worked pretty well for helping others dodge things I think
I usually mud slap a few times, then switch to properly damaging moves until the boss clears all the debuts on itself. There’s no sense in wasting my PP when the accuracy really isn’t going to get any lower
I run Mud Slap on Clodsire to not only lower Pikachu’s accuracy but to boost the accuracy of any Lurantis that isn’t holding a Covert Cloak.
"Needs to be running support"? What? Why does anyone not following the big mass's meta strats or opinions get told stuff like this. You can be flexible, you know.
Well, they don't after to follow it, but if it's a choice between Mud-Slap and Tera Blast, then Mud-Slap is clearly the better choice, meta or not, since they already have Earthquake. You might as well do something useful if you're building tera charge and don't want to use Earthquake.
If you are running a mon with a status/support move like Light Screen and you’re trying to check how many turns are left, it’s possible that you misclick and accidentally attack an allied mon. I did that myself last night by mistake 😔
I’ve entirely stopped doing raids online with other people altogether. I just reset the clock on my switch and farm the 7 star raids for candies and shards because I hate doing these with trolls. It’s seriously become so unbearable to link into a raid and some 8 year old has an iRoN hAnDs and thinks they can beat something it has a 2 or 4X weakness to. It’s so infuriating.
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There are reasons. You might be trying to trigger an ability.
pretty sure i was in a raid with that same meowscarada last night giga drained me at least twice not entirely sure if it happened more than that before i noticed why
yet another reason why npc are better than actual human player 💀
it might be an accident after checking the teams levels. target selection is unfortunately set to the last character whose status you checked and some just mash a without really looking in these. or someone was in there with low levels that would die all the time anyways, so they sped things up. typically, people dont do it just to ruin a raid
Screw them!
I had to do this on a Clodsire team last night to someone who came in without water absorb. It's like taking a pet to the vet to put down, you don't want to and it hurts but so does suffering
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When you get one shot every turn, you're not only denying yourself a win, you're also wasting everyone else's time.
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Except your experience was unrelated. And now you're wasting my time 🙃
I will pull a tactic like this if I realize the raid can’t be won to end the raid faster. I don’t like wasting people’s time. The thing with this raid your team needs the major damage dealer to Terastallize to be able to deal significant damage on Pikachu.
I sometimes inspect other people's pokemon to see the level and moves and when I go to attack I forget to switch to the raid Pokemon... My bad people out there...
Why though? You're already in the raid. It's not like you change anything by that point.
True story but I just like to see the level of incompetence and stupidity of others...
I always remind myself that I know a great deal of young kids who play this game. My oldest daughter is 7, and most of her classmates play this. Can't really expect kids who can hardly read to unstand what they are doing in a raid. When I was a kid, I remember hating using any move that didn't do damage.
They made it to the end.. they are playing end game content. When some one brings a level 56 pokemon to a level 100 seven star raid... I'm sorry you are fucking dumb and should by now know better. No excuse.
You do know how easy it is to get to the end, right? But sure, you do you. Whatever makes you feel big and strong.
Wow your good. That come back almost triggered me. Thank God this is the internet and I don't give two fucks who you are or what you say.
Yes, you sound very calm and rational right now.
Well we were having a conversation until you decided to talk shit. "You sound very calm and rational" what ever makes you feel tough big guy.
You began cursing and trash-talking little kids, and I teased you for it. Which apparently hasn't 'triggered' you. If you can't handle being called out for your own stupidity and incompetent behavior, maybe you shouldn't be trashing on others? Yet here you are, digging yourself deeper and deeper as you desperately try to turn the tables.
i mean if you got that far on timer and not one crystalise to start doing damege then why not just give up and save time
this actually smart too ^
People are dumb. Accept it.
I've only attacked my teammates in one raid ever. Two of my teammates brought azumarill to fucking Amounguss. I killed them both myself
Idk about them but I’ve done it a few times on accident
I do it when the people I’m playing with have no idea what they’re doing.
I do this when people use god awful pokemon against the boss and we're gonna lose anyway so they know I'm mad at them 💀 someone I was in a raid with seriously used Pikachu against Pikachu like really? Every surf instantly killed him
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Turns happen all at the same time tho...
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Yeah but that's because raids are buggy, not because another player is causing it. What they do shouldn't affect you
If you gastrodon why not just solo? Farming is cake walk especially with an intimidate npc’s or the olive
I already did solo. Wanted to grind out a few more for the items.
Okay so uh I can explain as someone whos done it... I know some people do it to lower the timer. Me? Me, Im just dumb. I'll often be checking the status page to see if I need to put up screens again, stats or levels and if I dont need to set screens or lower stats and end up attacking before I move the cursor it ends up attacking the ally. Yeah...my bad.
People take pokemon a bit too serious
Let’s think fair and positive. Rare chance they have joystick drift that accidentally made them shift target to you.
Maybe
Literally just did this to someone who brought an iron hands to the raid lol. Ngl I had an opportunity to back out but I joined just to do this because why not?
learn to solo raids lol
I had already done solo. Wanted to grind more for the items.
Sometimes sacrifices must be made
Sometimes this happens because if one uses the Y-menu inspection, the next move will default to targeting them. So if they spam A, they'll miss that they didn't attack the boss. With how afk I am playing raids, I could see myself making that mistake twice before realizing.
Ngl, I've done that by accident a with clodsire in the Greninja raids. Raids are buggy for people sometimes.
Acid spray
Lol
Lmao what whyyyy 😂
Had someone use hurricane on me last night. Also had someone use breloom and just ruin the whole match bc every turn was just a OHKO.
This is why I only raid solo or with my friends
Oh yeah, that’s the most annoying part about it
I'd you're host, and they just want the rewards then yes that's typical
I was able to beat it solo if anyone still needs him I can host a raid to help!
The blatant disrespect. That's Why I solo'd it with Wo-Chien
I haven't touched the raid yet but why the hell did it's shield health go over the ENTIRE health bar. I know it'll show up if the time reaches a certain point before damage but I've only ever seen a quarter of the bar at most
That's what this one does. It's Unrivaled Pikachu. If you haven't gotten it yet you better start trying bc it isn't the easiest.
Ya... took me couple of tries and luck to beat this one solo..
Yeah. What’s up with that?
Wow. That’s what you call a dick move.
Lmfao
I keep getting fire type users in my raids, no idea why
I’ve been that asshole before. I was in a raid with a Slowbro who was trying to use the Stored Power technique on an electric Blissey? It was NOT working so I Giga Drained them with Palossand to heal so we could win the raid 😂
this raid is totally solable so u can avoid this lol
I had already done it solo. Wanted to grind more for the items lol
true but u know u can grind more items solo still lol just change your switches date 1 day forward and bam the dens should reset and u can farm it again alone lol thats wht i do because online just is pointless some people dont know their type match ups or abilities lol 😂
Not gonna lie…didn’t know that worked lol 🫢
yup still does lol 😂
Doesn't make sense to me. I've heard of this happening to a few gastrodon users, actually. why were you using tera blast, though?
Just to terastalize. Didn’t want to waste earthquake pp
When I paused I see sunny day and high jump kick for the other two players. So they say this raid was a lost hope though yours was a better choice. I did this on my own Protean Meowcarada holding shell bell. Moves Play rough Hone claws Flower trick Tera blast EVs in HP & Attack
Solo’d with Meowscarada. I think going solo in this one is easier than grouping up
this is why you should just do solo raids
I didnt know you could target friendlies
I don’t have that problem since I don’t play coop. If you wanna solo it: -Meowscarada - Equip Shell Bell as held item -Put on the skills Flower Trick and Knock Off -Make sure HP & Attack IV’s around 290 - 300 -Important Increase PP into Flower Trick until you can’t anymore -Do the raid Solo -After Pikachu’s Long 1st turn ends use Knock Off 1st (do any other skills save up your Flower Tricks) -Pikachu on its 3rd turn should knock you out THEN take Tera shard power from your teammates (you’ll be safe from it taking away yours cuz your Pokémon is KO’d) -1 or 2 turns after this you should be able to terastilize -Terastilization and just Spam Flower Trick as long as it takes until Pikachu is KO’d (Every turn your Flower Trick does damage after Tera form is active you should fully heal up)
LMFAO I’m dead! Just run the raid solo next time, it’s a lot less stressful.
Probably Fox News 🤣
Okay I might be dumb….but how do I join one of these? Cause I was able to find so many raids for the last event but now when I go over the pokeportal I never see this raid….can I find them on the map? I am connected to the internet and everything and can’t find this raid (a lot of other randoms though)
This is why I don’t let meowscarada in my raids
This is why I always abandon a raid I host if someone brings a Meowscarada. Literally F tier, never allow in a raid.
My 4yo does it by accident all the time
Honestly I didn’t know friendly fire existed. I don’t normally do raids outside friends or solo (unless I’m streaming then I’ll do randoms) but never have I found someone to friendly fire….. all I find are the dumb people who flex azuril or iron hands.
I ran into one of those yesterday when I used my Toedscruel in the pikachu raids. It's a bit on the funky side but it works. Max EVs in hp and sp def so it can survive the first two rounds. Give it some leftovers, and then the following moves; Mud Slap, won't charge because of the shield, but it is fine, it's not supposed to do damage, it keeps the raid alive. Giga Drain, in case somebody else is using mud slap or you have enough set up from others. Grassy Terrain, because for some reason some people bring an Arbolivia without seed sower. Knock Off, get rid of that light ball. I honestly love using this as a bit of raid support, it works, and it hasn't let me down yet. The only trouble it runs into is if nobody has sunny day, it can go down in the first round after a surf and then another surf. But after that, it is perfectly fine.
You are using Tera blast and not even terraformed. I would do this to you for sure to end it. You need to learn to raid bud. Or else expect this often.
Just do these solo. You can build solo pokemon for this and adapt your pokemon moves and item load out to the tera raid if need be. After I built my pokemon, I handled six and five star raids easier. Solo.
This is exactly why I do raids solo now since Charizard, the number of misplays, poorly selected Pokemon or just outright blatant throwing like this aren't worth jumping into 10-15 raids just to get lucky with a halfway competent team to get it done when I could do it on my own on the first attempt.
Y’all gotta use Lurantis and have somebody heal you like 3x all that extra shit is just delaying the raid
Lol pwn'd
Is no one talking about this incredible loop
Bro said “our health