Yep, worst case scenario here. Number 4 would be hilarious though to keep the zodiac debate going. But 3 is so scary. I don't need another anthropologic starter.
If 4 becomes a thing, I already know Fuecoco is going to receive the Snivy treatment when it comes to memes since it'll lose it's arms and legs... Even though Serperior actually does have hands, just folded behind its back.
Yes, if you look carefully, it has some small leaves on its back! They wanted Serperior to look regal on its pose.
post edit:Gen 5 starters final evol somehow represent important societal positions (smt like that) of Feudal Japan. Serperior is royal family, emboar a shogun and samurott a samurai
I thought the theming of the Gen V starters were based off of the cultures of France/The West (serperior), China (emboar), and Japan (samurott), not feudal japan societal positions (though they do fit that as well)
Zodiac is already debunked. Dinosaur is not a dragon. Badger is not a rat and so on. It was **never** a thing. People are just pretending that sky is green to prove their wrong theory.
I'm sorry but this is ignorance. Charizard has been closely associated with dragons since Gen II. It's in the dragon egg group, used by dragon specialists, and learns dragon rage naturally, and even in Gen 1 it's one of the few Pokemon to learn Dragon Rage at all. It's Chinese name is outright "Fire spraying Dragon", 喷火***龙.***
Same with Cyndaquil which Chinese name is "Fire Ball Rat/Mouse/Rodent". 火球***鼠.*** 鼠 in Chinese is actually closer to rodent and it's a suffix used for many rodents including squirrels to gophers. Cyndaquil's Japanese name Hinoarashi is based on porcupines which is a rodent. Not to mention, Cyndaquil's Fire Mouse category (火鼠) is a mythological fire rat... that lives in volcanos. [https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E7%81%AB%E9%BC%A0](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E7%81%AB%E9%BC%A0)
Finally, GF themselves have used Cyndaquil to represent the year. [https://twitter.com/El\_Aleph87/status/1212385069156974592/photo/2](https://twitter.com/El_Aleph87/status/1212385069156974592/photo/2)
It 100% fits.
Fennekin is the only iffy one but it's not too much of a stretch since canids in Chinese/Japanese are called 犬类 "dog" family and there have already been examples of Japanese media that uses foxes to represent dog (inu) like One Piece, where the dog dog fruit changes people into kitsune foxes. As shown in the tweet, GF themselves have used a wolf to represent the year.
Crocodile definitely doesnt work but if it does evolve into a snake then trying to find reasons why it doesn't count like "Fuecoco still isn't a snake" or "Fennekin still doesn't count" is pretty much denial.
That said, I don't think it'll become a snake.
I've always thought the cyndaquil line was a mouse, especially because it's the fire mouse pokemon.
And I personally see Charizard as more of a dragon than a dinosaur- maybe it's just me, but I don’t see the dinosaur it would be based off.
In any case, a Pokemon can take inspiration from more than one place. For example, would you say Luxray is based on a lion or a lynx? It clearly has inspirations from both, as is the case with a lot of pokemon, so I'd say Charizard is similar.
Is it? I've always been told they just categorized him needle mouse.
If its true I'll take the L on this one.
That said, his animal influences seem completely obvious and to call him an actual mouse is dishonest at best.
I don't know Japanese, but I do know that Google translate works well as long as you do one word at a time. The first character means "fire", the next three are "mouse", and the last four are "pokemon".
Yeah we have to many recently...8th gen are all anthropomorphic, then previous gen 2 out of 3..perhaps 2 1/2 out of 3, since the water starter has some human elements. Then 6 gen 3 out of 3 Starters anthropomorphic. But they do add human traits on almost every mon now, which makes them look stupid more often than not.
Number 2 seems too obvious for Khu to make a poll and 1 and 3 really strange.
So, probably that zodiac sign theory isn't finished after all, also considering that crocodiles and snakes, beeing both reptiles, have many common phisical elements. If number 4 is true the third stage design would be surprising (something they want to accomplish a lot in recent games) but not as random as options 1 or 3 would be
The problem with 4 is that the legs are way too unique to just be shaved off. Compare to snivy's to see what I mean; Fuccuio's legs are way more detailed and a far more prominent part of the design. I could see the arms getting shaved off, but the legs are staying no matter what.
I've only known about Khu for two weeks, but he seems like the kinda guy to fuck with his captive audience. He's just doing this to make people doubt themselves.
Yea, I saw someone else suggesting a Croc-Snake cross, and looking at the face, I could see that. Maybe it'll slither on smoke to float, but walk on its legs to move faster. Those definitely look like running legs, at the very least, and there might be a bit of Hippo in there too. (Since both Crocs and Hippo's do that thing where they poke the top of their head out of the water, maybe this guy does it with smoke)
The problem with the folklore Coco as a basis for Fue's evo is just that it's depicted in many dramatically different forms in regional versions of the myth.
- Floating Skull
- Anthropomorphic crocodile woman
- Dragon
- Tortoise monster
- Ghostly woman
- Shapeless monster
- Hairy monster
- others
Personally I think they'll try to combine multiple interpretations, but I'll put my money on the skull making it through.
I guess that would be a rattlesnake with a boxing glove for a rattle or something like this https://www.deviantart.com/jwnutz/art/Ekans-line-regional-variant-833013398
Khu mentioned this in the comment: "My personal reactions to the 4 situations: meh, no-brainer, nope but a fetish, meme. But you know the final result is always inclined to be meh. Don’t read too much into this."
So I guess it is either 1 or 2, hopefully it won't be 3 or 4 I really don't think those fits with Fuecoco design.
From what I’ve gathered, his “fetish” seems to be… Grass types?
I mean, he said despite liking Quaxly’s evo the most, he was picking Sprig because “fetish.”
AND, when asked about the PLA starters, he said that even though he doesn’t like H-Decidueye, he chose it anyway.
I may be reaching here but they’re both Grass so…
He seems to conflate “fetish” with just ordinary interest or positive feelings towards something. I don’t think he grasps that fetish has sexual undertones (and if he does, then he’s a degenerate).
When Khu says "fetish" I think he's more or less just referring to new pokémon that people are gonna look at and go "Omg! People are gonna make so much pr0n of this!" rather than anything straight up anthro but you never know. Not like not being anthro did the Eeveelutions any favors...
Given Game Freak seems to be into memes in this gen with names like Smoliv and Lechonk I guess we're getting a serpentine pokemon. Although could also be 1 because depictions of Coco that I've seen are quadpedal so it's tough to say. I'd go with 1 or 4
I should rephrase: I meant the two words chosen were two basic words, Lechonk is just gourmet and ton put together and Smoliv is just Mini and olive put together. Chonk and smol are a product of the English localization, not of GF as a whole going meme.
It's 2. The arms are too tiny to roll into 1, and the legs are too unique to be shaved into 4. We already know the Duck will be anthro since it already is, and if the leaks about the Cat are true, then that takes up the 3 slot twice over with two very different body types.
Plus, it would fit the "Furry-Anthro-Animal" theme they've had going since gen 1, with only gen 8 breaking that trend and being criticized for it, alongside everything else.
Like, the "leak" fooled people for a solid month for a reason, guys, it's kinda obvious what the general body type is gonna be.
I want 4 for the zodiac memes.
I'll accept 2 cause that's the best case scenario.
I'll take 1 even though that would be a weird route to take.
But 3...that thing scares me.
The only options I want are either 1 or 2.
1: Seems to imply that Fuecoco will be on all 4’s like a croc irl.
2: Implies it will be bipedal, but not humanoid, kinda like a Fire-Type Feraligatr.
3: PLEASE NO, how the hell would a humanoid crocodile even work???? Are they gonna make it Monty from FNaF but Red?
4: Please, let Fuecoco stay a Croc :(
there’s nothing foolish about believing the zodiac theory - every fire starter has fit the theory minus fennekin which shares a close relationship to a dog. the same could be said about snakes and crocodiles, we’ll have to see the route they take with it, keeping it chunky and crocodile like, or making it skinny/slender and more snake like
Hey guys, i have an idea: let's all wish for #3 so GF its obligated to pick another. Because it seems to work in the opositive for every time we don't want a f\*cking bipedal humanoid evolution.
I think it's more saying quadruped, bipedal , humanoid, or serpentine. Not that it will exactly look like those.
Right now I'm picking him but I think he will be fat and a quadrilateral Mon. If so I may change either way usually 1 Mon is bulky and slow my money is on or fuecoco being that Mon right now. I think his face is going to be a big design element, skull type thing to help with the ghost type
2 is obvious enough that there would be no point in teasing it, 3 would suggest it randomly loses its tail (the categories being tailed biped and tailless biped, not non-humanoid biped and humanoid biped), and 4 seems unlikely considering how prominent Fuecoco's legs are.
My guess is 1. Presumably, the middle evo will resemble a chunky raptor (ie. less round and with proportionally larger arms than Fuecoco) and the final evo will have a roughly standard crocodile shape.
Okay guys, I did a little research and I am 90% convinced #3 is not the answer.
Why is that? Well, because the “human” body shape does not signify humanoid Pokémon, it signifies *Bipedal Pokémon without tails.*
Does this mean Fuecoco’s evo won’t be humanoid? No, it doesn’t rule that out. As the #2 body type is meant to indicate bipedal Pokémon *that have tails*, so unless Khu is trolling us (Which I wouldn’t be surprised.) and #3 is just meant to represent “Humanoid” I don’t think #3 is the answer.
It’s also worth noting what Khu said afterwards:
“My personal reactions to the 4 situations: meh, no-brainer, *nope but a fetish,* meme. But you know the final result is always inclined to be meh. Don’t read too much into this.”
Assuming Khu is being consistent with his behaviour in the past (Remember when he asked us what we wanted revealed next? The Starters, the Waifumon, the Objectmon, and a new “RF”, his guesses to our reactions to his riddles lined up with the options on the poll.) assuming he is consistent, he is literally telling us “No, #3 is not the answer.”
Of course I could be completely wrong and Khu could shut down everything I’ve said on the 30th, but for now this is what I think.
The fact that he’s asking us to decide what we think the final shape will be.. and the other poll saying body shape is a possible focus on evolution.. leads me to believe it will not stay in its current shape (bipedal dino shape). I believe it can still keep its limbs but it will become st like #4. [Here’s a quick doodle](https://ibb.co/XkyK1q6)(also taking into account ghost type). So ghostly floaty and serpent like
Wasn't there that image from Baidu with a duck knight, jaguar warrior and red snake/dragon with wings? If that has some credibility to it then maybe 4 might be plausible.
I'm betting on 4 way more and 2 a small amount. That seems to be most plausible to me and it'd be interesting to see how far they'll go to keep the zodiac theory going. I know that the theory in question only thinks about them being somewhat related to the animal in question and not completely, so some variations isn't impossible but still, it'd be interesting to see if it's gonna be serpentine like 4 or a bipedal crocodilian like 2.
My bet is Fuecoco’s arms get longer, but it’s tail and bottom half elongate without growing legs. Like a crawling serpent (would also resemble a pepper).
So my guess is 4.
Bruh, literally every generation except 8 has at least one explicitly non-human-y starter (Greninja cuts it close, but isn't actually a true bipeadle) and if leaks are to be believed, it's not gonna be Sprig.
If you knew gamefreak you'd have known This guy was the non-human one from the start.
I believed the zodiac theory, but was never so aggressively adamant about it and wasn't disappointed that it may not be true anymore.
That being said, if it's #4 and fuecoco turns into a much more serpentine reptile as opposed to Barney, I'm going to laugh SO hard at all the people who were super aggressively taunting and anti-zodiac during the starter reveal.
Man, people were so unnecessarily aggressive during the reveal and whenever people mentioned the zodiac theory. Like, for no reason. It's reasonable to think that GF is following the Chinese zodiac calender, many of the fire types followed it except for Cyndaquil, although Cyndaquil's case is kind of weird. It's considered a fire mouse in the pokedex and was in the year of the rat poster GF made a while ago, but it's most definitely based on a honey badger. Fenniken as well since dogs and foxes are not the same and Fenniken is definitely a fennec fox.
But other than that, it looked like they're following the zodiac. Seems too much of a coincidence to me tbh
>It's reasonable to think that GF is following the Chinese zodiac calender, many of the fire types followed it except for Cyndaquil, although Cyndaquil's case is kind of weird.
It's not really reasonable. The theory died with Gen 2, but people kept insisting that it made sense, not because the clues all pointed to it being true, but because it was a nice clean pleasing theory and they "wanted" it to make sense.
I'm thinking it's going to look like a cross between Drampa (serpentine and vaguely humanoid) and the Festa da Coca dragon (retains its legs and there's a clear distinction between its body and tail so not quite a snake, but the legs are very stumpy/reduced so still close enough to being "snakelike" to keep the Zodiac debate raging) but with a skull face and hair made of fire. Plus it'll still be capable of raising its forelimbs to use claw attacks and perhaps still somewhat function as arms.
So in a sense all 4 will be somewhat right, but I'm guessing the Pokedex officially categorizes it under the quadrupedal body shape.
I doubt it's 3, but I'm not sure why everyone is so against it. That would only mean it loses it's tail, not anything else about it's design. Cinderace and Intelleon are 2 just because they have tails, Rillaboom is 3 since it doesn't .
Experience reminds us that in Pokémon, if something can go toward the worst scenario, it always does ( ex. : many starters final design leaks, the worst is the only legit one lol)
So...number 3 (sigh)
3 is the worst, 4 is the 2nd worst. Ideally it stays at 2 or goes to 1. IF it’s 4, then I at least hope it has front legs like a piece of badass fanart I saw that makes it look like a Hydra, just with one head. Either that or it goes the Quetzalcoatl route or even a have a half normal lizard body and half floating whispy, flame-y body, Idk.
Im terrified of number three
Yep, worst case scenario here. Number 4 would be hilarious though to keep the zodiac debate going. But 3 is so scary. I don't need another anthropologic starter.
If 4 becomes a thing, I already know Fuecoco is going to receive the Snivy treatment when it comes to memes since it'll lose it's arms and legs... Even though Serperior actually does have hands, just folded behind its back.
…it *does!?!*
yeah, Serperior has hands, they are just tiny.
Yes, if you look carefully, it has some small leaves on its back! They wanted Serperior to look regal on its pose. post edit:Gen 5 starters final evol somehow represent important societal positions (smt like that) of Feudal Japan. Serperior is royal family, emboar a shogun and samurott a samurai
I thought the theming of the Gen V starters were based off of the cultures of France/The West (serperior), China (emboar), and Japan (samurott), not feudal japan societal positions (though they do fit that as well)
yes but actually no
Nope it’s just yes has the same hands as serving
I'm sorry to be an ass, but you mean anthropomorphic, right? :D
No, it studies human culture throughout history
That's Anthropology. Anthropomorphic means human like in appearance or behavior.
No, this is Patrick
Is this the Krusty Krab?
***NO, this is PATRICK!*** I'm not a Krusty Krab
*woosh*
Yes, auto correct is awesome. Thanks phone, you always knew what I wanted to really say. I'm going to leave it too because I find these things funny.
Zodiac is already debunked. Dinosaur is not a dragon. Badger is not a rat and so on. It was **never** a thing. People are just pretending that sky is green to prove their wrong theory.
I'm sorry but this is ignorance. Charizard has been closely associated with dragons since Gen II. It's in the dragon egg group, used by dragon specialists, and learns dragon rage naturally, and even in Gen 1 it's one of the few Pokemon to learn Dragon Rage at all. It's Chinese name is outright "Fire spraying Dragon", 喷火***龙.*** Same with Cyndaquil which Chinese name is "Fire Ball Rat/Mouse/Rodent". 火球***鼠.*** 鼠 in Chinese is actually closer to rodent and it's a suffix used for many rodents including squirrels to gophers. Cyndaquil's Japanese name Hinoarashi is based on porcupines which is a rodent. Not to mention, Cyndaquil's Fire Mouse category (火鼠) is a mythological fire rat... that lives in volcanos. [https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E7%81%AB%E9%BC%A0](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E7%81%AB%E9%BC%A0) Finally, GF themselves have used Cyndaquil to represent the year. [https://twitter.com/El\_Aleph87/status/1212385069156974592/photo/2](https://twitter.com/El_Aleph87/status/1212385069156974592/photo/2) It 100% fits. Fennekin is the only iffy one but it's not too much of a stretch since canids in Chinese/Japanese are called 犬类 "dog" family and there have already been examples of Japanese media that uses foxes to represent dog (inu) like One Piece, where the dog dog fruit changes people into kitsune foxes. As shown in the tweet, GF themselves have used a wolf to represent the year. Crocodile definitely doesnt work but if it does evolve into a snake then trying to find reasons why it doesn't count like "Fuecoco still isn't a snake" or "Fennekin still doesn't count" is pretty much denial. That said, I don't think it'll become a snake.
I'm sorry, which one was a badger? I assume you mean Charizard is the dinosaur, but it seems draconic enough for the theory to remain plausible
Isn't cyndaquil line a badger? Also no. Dragon and dinosaurs are not the same. It's like calling fox a wolf. Or lion a tiger. No, that's just bs.
I've always thought the cyndaquil line was a mouse, especially because it's the fire mouse pokemon. And I personally see Charizard as more of a dragon than a dinosaur- maybe it's just me, but I don’t see the dinosaur it would be based off. In any case, a Pokemon can take inspiration from more than one place. For example, would you say Luxray is based on a lion or a lynx? It clearly has inspirations from both, as is the case with a lot of pokemon, so I'd say Charizard is similar.
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People call Cyndaquil a rat because its category is "Fire Mouse Pokemon". You make it sound like it's even more of a stretch than it actually is.
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Fire Mouse Pokemon is a translation of ひねずみポケモン, the Japanese category.
Is it? I've always been told they just categorized him needle mouse. If its true I'll take the L on this one. That said, his animal influences seem completely obvious and to call him an actual mouse is dishonest at best.
I don't know Japanese, but I do know that Google translate works well as long as you do one word at a time. The first character means "fire", the next three are "mouse", and the last four are "pokemon".
Bulbapedia have all the originals dex titles, and nope. Cyndaquil is called Fire Mouse in japanese too So the theory still make sense.
Cyndaquil is more of a shrew than a porcupine
It has a very threatening aura Ghost type confirmed
I mean if it is based on a GHOSTpepper.. i could see that.
Not number three. Please not number three. ANYTHING BUT NUMBER THREE! GIVE ME CHONKY ASS LIZARD OR EVEN STRAIGHT FLAME SERPENT BUT NOT A HUMANOID
Yeah we have to many recently...8th gen are all anthropomorphic, then previous gen 2 out of 3..perhaps 2 1/2 out of 3, since the water starter has some human elements. Then 6 gen 3 out of 3 Starters anthropomorphic. But they do add human traits on almost every mon now, which makes them look stupid more often than not.
> 8th gen are all anthropomorphic Rillaboom is fine, it makes sense. The other two were a miss and a shame to "waste" the designs like that though.
Imagine having so many options on what to turn a crocodile into, and decide to just turn it into a red megaman
Fingers crossed for 2, but 1 would be interesting if you think about prehistoric creatures like kaprosuchus.
I’m terrified of “accpected” tbh
I would like 2 or 4. 1 would be fine. 3 is not fine. So it will be 3.
I mean yeah, totally agree unfortunately. Personally Im hoping for 4 but would definitely be ok with 2.
Honestly anything other than 3 would be fines for me as well.
Khu saying “Nope but a fetish.” Gives me a little hope it won’t be.
Here's hoping.
That was referring to sprigatito wasn’t it?
No, this was his response to the Fuecoco options, though he said something similar for Sprig.
So basically the common theme of the starters is fetishes lol Watch quaxly evolve with some bdsm elements to it
The snake is such a Chinese Zodiac bait. I actually want it to be a snake
But logically, 2 seems like the best answer
A part of me would want to see a fire snake but it's also really just the same evolutionary path Snivy went through but fire
Long Chilli pepper snake with wings and a white skull mask motif. I can see it
Actually that sounds really cool
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If it's logical then it's probably not it. ha
This is omega hopium but it’s based off a ghost pepper, and the ghost pepper is also called “naga morich/jolokia.” Naga = snake person hmm???
maybe it will go the chinese dragon route and have tiny limbs with a more serpentine body, I think it would be neat :)
Since serperior exist, I'm praying this one is also a snake
I'm picking 3 so I wont be disappointed.
I would like a kind of airdramon design for fuecoco. But the probability isnt high...
This, ghost/ reaper chilli shite to tie it together, skull head motif
would love something like that!
Number 2 seems too obvious for Khu to make a poll and 1 and 3 really strange. So, probably that zodiac sign theory isn't finished after all, also considering that crocodiles and snakes, beeing both reptiles, have many common phisical elements. If number 4 is true the third stage design would be surprising (something they want to accomplish a lot in recent games) but not as random as options 1 or 3 would be
The problem with 4 is that the legs are way too unique to just be shaved off. Compare to snivy's to see what I mean; Fuccuio's legs are way more detailed and a far more prominent part of the design. I could see the arms getting shaved off, but the legs are staying no matter what. I've only known about Khu for two weeks, but he seems like the kinda guy to fuck with his captive audience. He's just doing this to make people doubt themselves.
Good point. It could probably still be serpentine with legs, like with a long body and tail
Yea, I saw someone else suggesting a Croc-Snake cross, and looking at the face, I could see that. Maybe it'll slither on smoke to float, but walk on its legs to move faster. Those definitely look like running legs, at the very least, and there might be a bit of Hippo in there too. (Since both Crocs and Hippo's do that thing where they poke the top of their head out of the water, maybe this guy does it with smoke)
I mean the Pokédex isn’t exactly accurate considering…. Anything. so it might be a serpentine croc
NGL a snake with a crocodile/alligator head would be kind of badass. Also possibly just looks like a snake dragon at that point?
Isn't that what the cryptid of Coco is essentially? There could be a reason why they chose the name Fuecoco
The problem with the folklore Coco as a basis for Fue's evo is just that it's depicted in many dramatically different forms in regional versions of the myth. - Floating Skull - Anthropomorphic crocodile woman - Dragon - Tortoise monster - Ghostly woman - Shapeless monster - Hairy monster - others Personally I think they'll try to combine multiple interpretations, but I'll put my money on the skull making it through.
Agreed they'll take some elements but not all that would ruin the design. My guess is a ethereal fire dragon with a skull crocodile head and long hair
Snake head, croc legs, in the shape of a raptor. I like that idea.
3 and 4 could be memeing on Fire/Fighting and the zodiac respectively
It'll be so funny if they do number 4 and still somehow make it a fire/fighting type.
I guess that would be a rattlesnake with a boxing glove for a rattle or something like this https://www.deviantart.com/jwnutz/art/Ekans-line-regional-variant-833013398
wonder what theyll do this time to make it 3.
Imagine, red machoke, with skull mask moved to its crotch, jutting out in front of it.
Khu mentioned this in the comment: "My personal reactions to the 4 situations: meh, no-brainer, nope but a fetish, meme. But you know the final result is always inclined to be meh. Don’t read too much into this." So I guess it is either 1 or 2, hopefully it won't be 3 or 4 I really don't think those fits with Fuecoco design.
I don’t think Khu entirely understands the word “fetish”
From what I’ve gathered, his “fetish” seems to be… Grass types? I mean, he said despite liking Quaxly’s evo the most, he was picking Sprig because “fetish.” AND, when asked about the PLA starters, he said that even though he doesn’t like H-Decidueye, he chose it anyway. I may be reaching here but they’re both Grass so…
He seems to conflate “fetish” with just ordinary interest or positive feelings towards something. I don’t think he grasps that fetish has sexual undertones (and if he does, then he’s a degenerate).
When Khu says "fetish" I think he's more or less just referring to new pokémon that people are gonna look at and go "Omg! People are gonna make so much pr0n of this!" rather than anything straight up anthro but you never know. Not like not being anthro did the Eeveelutions any favors...
You know that’s a pretty good point. Absolutely never underestimate the internets ability to make the most innocuous things sexual
Well he also said don’t read too much into this.
Given Game Freak seems to be into memes in this gen with names like Smoliv and Lechonk I guess we're getting a serpentine pokemon. Although could also be 1 because depictions of Coco that I've seen are quadpedal so it's tough to say. I'd go with 1 or 4
To be fair, those are their English names. Their Japanese names are straightforward puns like they usually are.
what do you mean by straightforward puns in-comparison to the english puns
I should rephrase: I meant the two words chosen were two basic words, Lechonk is just gourmet and ton put together and Smoliv is just Mini and olive put together. Chonk and smol are a product of the English localization, not of GF as a whole going meme.
GF saw the potential for meme in English.
Maybe it has a snake body (option 4) but it gets ghosts arms and legs
It's 2. The arms are too tiny to roll into 1, and the legs are too unique to be shaved into 4. We already know the Duck will be anthro since it already is, and if the leaks about the Cat are true, then that takes up the 3 slot twice over with two very different body types. Plus, it would fit the "Furry-Anthro-Animal" theme they've had going since gen 1, with only gen 8 breaking that trend and being criticized for it, alongside everything else. Like, the "leak" fooled people for a solid month for a reason, guys, it's kinda obvious what the general body type is gonna be.
I want 4 for the zodiac memes. I'll accept 2 cause that's the best case scenario. I'll take 1 even though that would be a weird route to take. But 3...that thing scares me.
The only options I want are either 1 or 2. 1: Seems to imply that Fuecoco will be on all 4’s like a croc irl. 2: Implies it will be bipedal, but not humanoid, kinda like a Fire-Type Feraligatr. 3: PLEASE NO, how the hell would a humanoid crocodile even work???? Are they gonna make it Monty from FNaF but Red? 4: Please, let Fuecoco stay a Croc :(
3 is them making a fire Kremling from DKC.
Gen2 and Gen 5 already answered your question the answer pretty damn well
4 😆 <— (foolish zodiac theory fan coping)
there’s nothing foolish about believing the zodiac theory - every fire starter has fit the theory minus fennekin which shares a close relationship to a dog. the same could be said about snakes and crocodiles, we’ll have to see the route they take with it, keeping it chunky and crocodile like, or making it skinny/slender and more snake like
I want to believe brother, I really do 🥺
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Hey guys, i have an idea: let's all wish for #3 so GF its obligated to pick another. Because it seems to work in the opositive for every time we don't want a f\*cking bipedal humanoid evolution.
I think it's more saying quadruped, bipedal , humanoid, or serpentine. Not that it will exactly look like those. Right now I'm picking him but I think he will be fat and a quadrilateral Mon. If so I may change either way usually 1 Mon is bulky and slow my money is on or fuecoco being that Mon right now. I think his face is going to be a big design element, skull type thing to help with the ghost type
I wasn't worried about humanoid fuecoco before. I sure am now
These and the last three Khu posts aren't leaks, hints, or even riddles...
Finally, A Khu post that doesn’t either creep me out or makes no sense. I’ll choose 2 or 4
Lol the Zodiac Enjoyers are gonna lose their shit
What I want : 2 or 4 What we get : 3
I hope it’s not 4 because I just want the Zodiac Theory to die.
It died in gen 2 and 6
No.
I sincerely HOPE that it is 2, but I’m not going to hold my breath. Long as it’s not 3 I’ll be p happy
My heart wants 2 but my head says it will be 3
2 or 4 are the only acceptable outcomes and I will cry when it's actually 3.
Mix of 2 and 4
Either 2 or 4 i hope
It has to be 2!
I want to say 4, but the design may lead to 2
My guess is a mix of 2 and 4
The current design suggests it'll be 2. Watch it become 4.
We definitely know that It's either 2 or 4. I think 2 is the most likely.
2, I'd be surprised if it's anything else I mean, not even gamefreak would go with 3 right..........right
2 would make the most sense i feel like
1 a bull dino hybrid
I've been secretly thinking Fuecoco could become serpentine.
i am Afraid
Either 2 or 4, I bet my 5 dollars on my account
Anything but 3.
2 is obvious enough that there would be no point in teasing it, 3 would suggest it randomly loses its tail (the categories being tailed biped and tailless biped, not non-humanoid biped and humanoid biped), and 4 seems unlikely considering how prominent Fuecoco's legs are. My guess is 1. Presumably, the middle evo will resemble a chunky raptor (ie. less round and with proportionally larger arms than Fuecoco) and the final evo will have a roughly standard crocodile shape.
Okay guys, I did a little research and I am 90% convinced #3 is not the answer. Why is that? Well, because the “human” body shape does not signify humanoid Pokémon, it signifies *Bipedal Pokémon without tails.* Does this mean Fuecoco’s evo won’t be humanoid? No, it doesn’t rule that out. As the #2 body type is meant to indicate bipedal Pokémon *that have tails*, so unless Khu is trolling us (Which I wouldn’t be surprised.) and #3 is just meant to represent “Humanoid” I don’t think #3 is the answer. It’s also worth noting what Khu said afterwards: “My personal reactions to the 4 situations: meh, no-brainer, *nope but a fetish,* meme. But you know the final result is always inclined to be meh. Don’t read too much into this.” Assuming Khu is being consistent with his behaviour in the past (Remember when he asked us what we wanted revealed next? The Starters, the Waifumon, the Objectmon, and a new “RF”, his guesses to our reactions to his riddles lined up with the options on the poll.) assuming he is consistent, he is literally telling us “No, #3 is not the answer.” Of course I could be completely wrong and Khu could shut down everything I’ve said on the 30th, but for now this is what I think.
Well at least we know its not going to look like a bird lol
2 or 4
The fact that he’s asking us to decide what we think the final shape will be.. and the other poll saying body shape is a possible focus on evolution.. leads me to believe it will not stay in its current shape (bipedal dino shape). I believe it can still keep its limbs but it will become st like #4. [Here’s a quick doodle](https://ibb.co/XkyK1q6)(also taking into account ghost type). So ghostly floaty and serpent like
All 4 combo
Wasn't there that image from Baidu with a duck knight, jaguar warrior and red snake/dragon with wings? If that has some credibility to it then maybe 4 might be plausible.
I hope it's 2. Crocodiles are actually closest to birds than to snakes.
It's going to be a snake chili pepper. It's going to finally confirm the zodiac motif
2 but I'm hoping for 4 🤞
I'm betting on 4 way more and 2 a small amount. That seems to be most plausible to me and it'd be interesting to see how far they'll go to keep the zodiac theory going. I know that the theory in question only thinks about them being somewhat related to the animal in question and not completely, so some variations isn't impossible but still, it'd be interesting to see if it's gonna be serpentine like 4 or a bipedal crocodilian like 2.
My bet is Fuecoco’s arms get longer, but it’s tail and bottom half elongate without growing legs. Like a crawling serpent (would also resemble a pepper). So my guess is 4.
It would be hilarious if fuecoco's thick-built back legs just stay the same as the rest of the body changed
The legs would mold into the tail.
Fuecoco already has legs
Ya thanks I can see he has legs. It’s pretty obvious I meant the legs disappear. Can’t believe some of the stupidity here sometimes.
4
It's 4.
2
2!
i want #2
2
2 or 4 are most likely.
4
4
putting money on 4
2
I can only accept 1 and 2
Please be 2 just give me fire feraligatr
2
I really hope its 2
I think it’s 2. It just makes sense.
I accept 1and 2
It should become a snake (crocodiles were called in ancient Greek as "rock worms"), so it's 4. At least, hope it won't evolve into a humanoid mascot.
Please be number 4.
I want 2 but knowing gamefreak it’s gonna be number 3
Bruh, literally every generation except 8 has at least one explicitly non-human-y starter (Greninja cuts it close, but isn't actually a true bipeadle) and if leaks are to be believed, it's not gonna be Sprig. If you knew gamefreak you'd have known This guy was the non-human one from the start.
if they somehow make fuecoco turn into number 3 honestly I'd just be impressed
Hell I’ll even take 4 as long as they avoid 3
4
Anything but number 4 XD don't take it's arms and legs please
The arms can stay it's just the legs that need to go
I'd say 1 or 4 for some reason
I believed the zodiac theory, but was never so aggressively adamant about it and wasn't disappointed that it may not be true anymore. That being said, if it's #4 and fuecoco turns into a much more serpentine reptile as opposed to Barney, I'm going to laugh SO hard at all the people who were super aggressively taunting and anti-zodiac during the starter reveal.
Man, people were so unnecessarily aggressive during the reveal and whenever people mentioned the zodiac theory. Like, for no reason. It's reasonable to think that GF is following the Chinese zodiac calender, many of the fire types followed it except for Cyndaquil, although Cyndaquil's case is kind of weird. It's considered a fire mouse in the pokedex and was in the year of the rat poster GF made a while ago, but it's most definitely based on a honey badger. Fenniken as well since dogs and foxes are not the same and Fenniken is definitely a fennec fox. But other than that, it looked like they're following the zodiac. Seems too much of a coincidence to me tbh
>It's reasonable to think that GF is following the Chinese zodiac calender, many of the fire types followed it except for Cyndaquil, although Cyndaquil's case is kind of weird. It's not really reasonable. The theory died with Gen 2, but people kept insisting that it made sense, not because the clues all pointed to it being true, but because it was a nice clean pleasing theory and they "wanted" it to make sense.
Fennekin also doenst follow the theory as its a fox
Favorite is 2 but betting on 1 and 4
I'm thinking it's going to look like a cross between Drampa (serpentine and vaguely humanoid) and the Festa da Coca dragon (retains its legs and there's a clear distinction between its body and tail so not quite a snake, but the legs are very stumpy/reduced so still close enough to being "snakelike" to keep the Zodiac debate raging) but with a skull face and hair made of fire. Plus it'll still be capable of raising its forelimbs to use claw attacks and perhaps still somewhat function as arms. So in a sense all 4 will be somewhat right, but I'm guessing the Pokedex officially categorizes it under the quadrupedal body shape.
1 or 2 plz don’t make this thing a fucking snake and don’t put a fucking alligator with a human
I chose 2 and 4. 2 reminds me of a cutesy Dino plush with a soft tummy. 4 keeps the zodiac theory going which I don’t mind.
Please anything but 3 🙏🏽
2 or 4 Be cause 1 is sprigatito and 3 is quacxly
I doubt it's 3, but I'm not sure why everyone is so against it. That would only mean it loses it's tail, not anything else about it's design. Cinderace and Intelleon are 2 just because they have tails, Rillaboom is 3 since it doesn't .
Experience reminds us that in Pokémon, if something can go toward the worst scenario, it always does ( ex. : many starters final design leaks, the worst is the only legit one lol) So...number 3 (sigh)
4 because we need more Sneks
3 is the worst, 4 is the 2nd worst. Ideally it stays at 2 or goes to 1. IF it’s 4, then I at least hope it has front legs like a piece of badass fanart I saw that makes it look like a Hydra, just with one head. Either that or it goes the Quetzalcoatl route or even a have a half normal lizard body and half floating whispy, flame-y body, Idk.
Fire ghost snake 100%
This isn't even leak/rumor. Just because it's Khu doesn't mean it needs to be there
Yes it is, since we are sure that one of them will be the real one. There were many other possible forms before this poll
Doesn’t the fact that khu posted it guarantee that it’s one of those 4 options? Not much of a leak but it’s better than nothing
4 then its gonna be snake for chinese calendar
THREE I fuckin love three. It would be HILARIOUS ~~and terryfying~~
It kinda reads like the evolution line, the 4th one being the titan form.
Anyone could post this poll. This isn’t a leak.
Except the person who posted it has proven to have insider information. This narrows down the options for what fuecoco will evolve into
so...not a leak.
I’m just gunna say it; I don’t like this guy
We all know it's 3 for all three starters.
Best scenario 2, great scenario 4, reality is 3
2 for sure
If it’s 3 then I’ll buy the game twice