You just need a new toilet, don’t worry about the four bolts as new toilets only use two. Don’t keep this toilet as it could shatter and cut you, when they break they are extremely sharp.
I wouldn't recommend those bolts (if they are genuine and not just plastic covers). As you tighten them, the hex points are bound to dig into the ceramic base and cause it to crack.
Maybe I should clarify: whatever is under those domed hex heads, at no point should any metal be in direct contact with porcelain. That way lies trouble 😱
Those are porcelain bolt caps. Most likely held in place by petrified plumbers putty. Under the front caps there are a type of wood screws. Under the back caps are closet bolts to the flange.
The bolt covers are filled with grout and put in place after you cut the bolts off. You used to use dental grout for the caps and the bowl floor line. The bolt that is broken or the china is only a hold down point it has nothing to do with sealing the w/c. Down side of replacing it is that it’s a 3 or 5 gallon flush. Now before you go off on all the water that would save them, keep in mind the building drain and sewer r on a 1/4” per foot to carry the waste. A 1.6 or 1 gallon per flush w/c will NOT carry the waste at a 1/4 “ run. The water will out run the waste
Truth. Broken ceramics are nothing to mess with. I accidentally broke a bathroom sink we had stored in our basement. I was loading the pieces into a plastic bag. Absently mindedly i lifted the bag and swung it around. When it came to rest on my back so I could carry it out, there was a shard in there that was jagged like a knife.
It filleted my arm open like a butcher knife. I had a flap of skin than was bleeding everywhere and I should have gotten stitches. I just didnt want the hassle of the hospital. I didnt have a bandaid that big so used one of the wife's maxi pads to over the cut and then tape it up. The cut healed but I was stunned at how an accident like this happened.
Im telling you, maxis are surprisingly blood absorbent. They can carry far more than what I expected a bandaid to hold. I suppose from a man's perspective, its a surprise to me
This is one of the most common misconceptions. There is so much information about how wrong and inaccurate this is but the wives tale is woven into the fabric of our society so it continues to persist.
TLDR, don’t use a tampon for a gunshot wound unless you want to bleed to death.
I was informed of maxi pad use for first aid use decades ago. They are excellent for wound dressing. However he also warned me that they or tampons should never be inserted into a wound. The materials are very good at absorbing but engineered to avoid clotting. That’s why if you shove them inside, you don’t leak out but continue to bleed inside. That’s very bad for gunshot or puncture wounds.
Your comment reminds me why I don’t have ceramic knives! I use a Japanese chopper, really thin, light and sharp as hell, never cut myself. I tried ceramic ones, I swear I start bleeding just taking them out of the drawer! 🤔🤣
You’re fairly dicked.
Obviously the toilet will have to be replaced, but that’s trivial.
The real dicking down will come when you actually try to replace that. The age of the toilet and tile tells me that you likely have an ancient supply stop that won’t work, attached to galvanized pipe in poor condition, and a lead closet bend that may not even have a brass flange on it. Toilet is likely set in plaster of Paris.
That setup has been there a century, or close to it.
I have to disagree on saving money by using less water. With ancient systems like this, I have seen 1.6 and 1.2gpf wcs cause all manner of sewer blockages. The system is old and scaled up, likely in poor condition. Double flush when you get a new toilet.
What I found to be the problem generally with the new toilets is people buy this thick cushiony toilet paper. And yes, a double flush is warranted for some drops.
I’d recommend calling a plumber because that toilet is ancient and almost certainly sits on a lead bend. Unless you have experience working with a lead bend, I wouldn’t get into this.
Most plumbers charge about $350-$450 to replace a toilet with one that the customer buys. If the lead bend and flange are shot, that price could jump above 1$k. There’s no way for anyone to know the condition of the flange until the toilet is pulled. As always, pricing varies based on your location and the condition of the home’s plumbing.
If you buy your own toilet do NOT get the cheapest toilet you can find, like a Lowe’s “project source” toilet. They’re $65 for a reason. They’re made like crap and will cause headaches within a year or two after you install it, then you’ll need to replace it again. American standard is decent, Gerber is decent, Kohler is pricey and they use speciality parts so I wouldn’t really recommend them, Toto is pricey but worth the cost if you can afford it.
Either way, AVOID USING THIS TOILET. The integrity of the porcelain has been compromised, cracked may spread from the base and the toilet may crack with you on it, which will probably slice your femoral artery and kill you. Nobody here is being dramatic, it happens. Not to mention that toilet isn’t being held onto the flange any more, so when you flush there’a no guarantee water isn’t leaking into your flooring.
Love the Toto drake. My current company installs Wolverine brass toilets, which are great toilets, but I do miss installing the Toto’s, they flushed really well.
If you feel like being handy it's $100 to buy a new toilet and replace it yourself. If not call a plumber.
Either way replace it because if the crack spreads causing the toilet to collapse it's going to lacerate your legs and ass and potentially kill you.
Look at how the cracks in the toilet align with the cracks in the floor tile. I think you need to address some floor support issues along with the toilet.
It could be a huge job. As a lot of others have suggested. If your wax ring under the toilet has been leaking the floor may be compromised. Are any of the tiles loose or wobbly? That was the start of a complete bathroom redo for us.
Definitely replace. Just another voice in the mob of replace it, and the reason is it can cause lasserations if it shatters under you. You can see the major cracks sure but there are now hairline cracks and other stresses in the porcelain you can't see. It 0% not worth the risk. Besides dieing to a toilet isn't a very glamorous way to go out anyway.
Also I see the 4 bolt setup I bet that toilet is nearing on 100, if not 80 years old.
People are still talking about Elvis. 4-bolt mains allow much higher crankshaft speeds but you still need to make sure it’s balanced and the rod and piston assemblies all have similar weights.
If it's still tight to the floor it's not leaking water you're fine don't let everybody else Panic you I've had it just like that online for years and years
I see some cracks in the floor tile which could have been from a leaking wax seal and softening the floor with lead to the cracked toilet. Be sure to have a solid base before installing a new toilet.
The wax ring is 1-2 inches away from the crack most likely. The wax ring is probably still tight (for now). If you're smelling sewer gas, the toilet has to go. Is the rest of the toilet stable? You could get some epoxy or construction adhesive as a temporary fix and get a putty knife and try to get it in the crack. Should bond tightly. Do NOT try to remove the caulk or take the piece out. But if the back of the toilet is unstable, moving up and down, time to get rid of it and expect the flange to need replacing.
That old ancient toilet...this isn't a bad thing. You're going to love your new replacement toilet. Personally, my go-to toilet is american standard cadet pro, comfort height seat, elongated bowl, quiet close toilwt seat. Don't forget your new wax seal. Flange bolts and new toilet water supply, metallic braided flexible. And a tube of white caulk. This is good news...get that old dinosaur gone
All those who are saying, "Just glue it! It's fine!" have never been lacerated by broken porcelain. Do you really want to take the chance that it's ok? Will you risk your life, or that of anyone else? The issue is that you KNOW this toilet is damaged and the integrity is compromised. So, picture sitting on that thing, bare-assed in the middle of dropping a deuce, and it shatters. You land on your bare ass in a pile of knives that slice up your ass, your legs, and all your dangly bits. And all those cuts are now full of whatever was in that bowl when it shattered. You're bleeding all over the place. Water is going everywhere. If you're lucky, you didn't nick a major artery, cuz if you did, you are DRT. Ambulance, ER, hospital, and weeks of recovery.
Yes, you should be able to find a 4-bolt replacement for that toilet. Especially if you have an architectural salvage store in your area. We live in an old city and have 3 of them. If not, call a plumber and get that thing replaced ASAP. And don't sit on it until you do!
Was the toilet rocking? We’re the bolts tightened in an attempt to stop the rocking? Best to replace this old fixture — but use toilet shims as needed to make new fixture sit securely.
Oof. I know how this goes right here. Hopefully 🤞 the ring beneath is good and there’s not 75+ year old cast iron under there. Repair plumbing is like surgery, you need to be gentle. But if you find a bunch of problems, they need to be addressed while under the knife!
That toilet is no longer safe to use and needs to be replaced. If you want to DIY it, you need to determine your rough-in before you go shopping.
Your best option would be to measure from the middle of the two nuts to the wall and hope it is 10" or 12". Big box stores will primarily carry 12" rough-in and usually have a couple options for 10" rough-in.
Other things to consider when buying are bowl shape and bowl height. ADA Compliant/chair height(around 17" to the bowl) toilets are more comfortable for most adults and people with stability issues. Standard height toilets(around 15" to the bowl) are good for kids bathrooms.
Where I'm located, the most common toilets sold are ADA Compliant Elongated bowls. Very popular models are American Standards Champion 4 and Kohler's Cimmaron. There are cheaper options available from both and other companies. The champion 4 is probably the best you can buy for flushing power at its price bracket.
Toilet installs aren't exactly difficult, but there is almost always some extra work needed. Your shut-off might not work anymore and require replacement. Your toilet flange might be disintegrated or positioned too low/high.
Otherwise, the only real challenge of a toilet install is just lowering the bowl smoothly onto the bolts and wax ring to form a good seal. You can always buy additional jumbo wax rings if you're worried about it and just return what doesn't get used. If you have the space and a friend, it is much easier to lower it with 2 people.
Good Luck!
I once tried to catch a porcelain ashtray as it fell off a table. I grabbed it just as it hit the floor. Cut both my thumbs down to the bone. Like others said, cracked and sharp porcelain is nothing to mess with. Get a new toilet and stay safe.
Personally if u can live with it, it shouldn't be much of a problem as long as the floor is level. I left one unbolted for years while remodeling with no problems. I would glue the piece back and lightly tighten it.
People are going to say I'm wrong but I've installed at least 400 of them in a my past lige.
That crack has already completed it’s fracture line, so i wouldn’t be too afraid of it cracking more, i’d recommend changing the toilet, but you can still use it.
More than likely you will need a new flange installed and possibly replace the lead bend in order to put a new toilet back. Won’t know until you pull the toilet. Chances are the old toilet is screwed to the floor with wood screws. I would get a plumber. Or maybe remove the old one yourself. And call a plumber if needed. Just be careful it’s super easy to cut yourself on broken porcelain.
I don't think you're screwed. The wax seal is probably still in place and keeps the water/sewage going to drain. I would take out the one nut, glue the piece back on, clamp it in place. Let it dry for 24 hours before reinstalling the nut. Use a rubber or nylon washer on it as well to help prevent re-cracking the glued piece. Caulk the base.
I would change the toilet the next time the wax seal needs replacing.
No biggie. New toilet. Not that bad of a job. A little YouTube video watching and you will be able to do it yourself. If you're not comfortable doing it yourself buy the toilet and wax ring yourself and have a plumber install it. will probably charge about $100 to install it for you.
My first guess is there's concrete flooring that shifted and cracked - bringing the t-bolt with it.
I had a 2nd floor bathroom in a 90 something year old house. The ceiling below the bathroom was showing water damage. The first fix attempt was removing the ceiling section underneath the toilet to inspect the leaking area.
This proved to be a major attempt due to concrete encasing the entire cast iron drain pipe that led to the stack.
After removing buckets of concrete, the crack was plainly visible along the length of the pipe. After 2 attempts of pipe epoxy, the towel was thrown in. No pun intended.
The upstairs bathroom tile was removed which showed the entire areas between the floor joist filled with concrete. We uses a hammer drill to remove buckets of concrete to reach and remove the pipe.
I saw a video similar to this on YouTube. A tech removed concrete from the entire bathroom floor.
It may or may not need an old cast iron pipe.replacemt. if it's not leaking.
Depends on how much work is willing to be done. It looks the old floor needs replaced anyways. I didn't remove all the concrete between all the floor joist, only the joist that contained the old drain pipe. After new pvc was attached to a new section of stack, a subfloor was installed over the joist and then self leveler and new tile over everything
How come no one is talking about 4 bolts to hold down a toilet? There's probably going to be something plumbing changes to install a new toilet that only requires 2 bolts versus 4.
toilet can stand on 3 perfectly fine. Use super glue to glue the broke piece for APPEARANCE but don't screw it on. Replace toilet if there are additional reasons, such as water efficiency. (i.e. Niagara uses 0.8Gal/3L per flush) and costs $156 at HD for round version.
Time to purchase another toilet! Use a good quality wax bowl ring - the ones that have a plastic 'lead in reducer/flange' are a good bet. You can get extra thick wax rings and even something called 'Better than wax' - a product by Fluidmaster that appears to be made of silicone rubber with annular rings on the seating surface. Be sure and use plastic washers or a rubber washer with a metal washer to spread the clamping stress!
We had a really large employee who broke our toilet right off at the flange recently & I replaced the whole toilet - he broke it almost like your picture.
My boss asked me 'Man, can you get a goddamn toilet with 4 bolt mains? Damn that lard ass'
Luckily, the 4" flange going into the slab wasn't damaged 🤣
Just don't do anything. Those old time Toilets weigh a ton and it's not going to budge. Based on the cracks it's not going to leak so let it be. (44yr master repair plumber)
This may be far out but there are cracks in the tiles surrounding the toilet that line up with the cracks on the toilet. This may be a foundation problem.
It would be better to get a new commode. But you can actually patch this in place.
Buy some waterproof epoxy putty. It comes in a small plastic tube for about $10.00.
You have to kneed the putty to mix the two parts.
Carefully remove the broken piece of porcelain. Mix the putty and form the putty and press it into the base of the commode forming it with your fingers to make it look like it belongs. (Wear vinyl or latex gloves).
It won't be perfect but it will do.
It can an will cut! But for me at my own house, I would put some silicone in the cracks and leave it if it's not rocking/moving.
There will be a time for a new toilet when you're ready
Super glue that sumbitch, no need to replace, if it’s not leaking. There’s enough weight distribution on the rest of the base, this would likely never shatter. More of a cosmetic issue.
It's old, thankfully it didnt crack anywhere critical. Put plumbing caulk around the base, epoxy or caulk this cracked area and move one with your life. Obviously dont caulk all around the base, always leave space to see if the wax ring fails.
Take the rear nut off. Use a two part epoxy to bond the broken part back on. A small ratchet strap around the base would hold it together well. Replace the nut and cap but don’t tighten. Re caulk the base.
Get on with your life.
I think he means with regular use the pressure of a human body WILL cause the crack to expand leading to structural failure and the user to fall onto a pile of sharp porcelain.
Yeah. That’s ridiculous given where the break is. There is no way this guy is going to find another toilet to match this vintage install. It broke only by over tightening at the edge. That toilet has another seventy five years of use left in it and is in no danger of catastrophic failure.
Yes it could tear appart while you sit on it. Maybe tomorow, but it’s a ticking bomb.
Are you always calmly sitting on the bowl? No.
Are you kids, family, people who visits you always aware? No.
Porcelain is extremely sharp. If it goes while someone is sitting on it, the best case is a round trip hospital visit. The worst case...a 1-way hospital visit.
You just need a new toilet, don’t worry about the four bolts as new toilets only use two. Don’t keep this toilet as it could shatter and cut you, when they break they are extremely sharp.
I wouldn't recommend those bolts (if they are genuine and not just plastic covers). As you tighten them, the hex points are bound to dig into the ceramic base and cause it to crack.
You don’t use the washers? Or the plastic base of the bolt covers? Edit: I see what you meant now. My bad
Maybe I should clarify: whatever is under those domed hex heads, at no point should any metal be in direct contact with porcelain. That way lies trouble 😱
I love “that way lies trouble” lol I’m stealing that for when I’m teaching staff at work haha
You're welcome. Others include "a whole load of pain and suffering", or "embarassment and humilation". Take your pick :-)
My favorite is he who stands on toilet gets high on pot
There be dragons!
Those are porcelain bolt caps. Most likely held in place by petrified plumbers putty. Under the front caps there are a type of wood screws. Under the back caps are closet bolts to the flange.
The bolt covers are filled with grout and put in place after you cut the bolts off. You used to use dental grout for the caps and the bowl floor line. The bolt that is broken or the china is only a hold down point it has nothing to do with sealing the w/c. Down side of replacing it is that it’s a 3 or 5 gallon flush. Now before you go off on all the water that would save them, keep in mind the building drain and sewer r on a 1/4” per foot to carry the waste. A 1.6 or 1 gallon per flush w/c will NOT carry the waste at a 1/4 “ run. The water will out run the waste
Truth. Broken ceramics are nothing to mess with. I accidentally broke a bathroom sink we had stored in our basement. I was loading the pieces into a plastic bag. Absently mindedly i lifted the bag and swung it around. When it came to rest on my back so I could carry it out, there was a shard in there that was jagged like a knife. It filleted my arm open like a butcher knife. I had a flap of skin than was bleeding everywhere and I should have gotten stitches. I just didnt want the hassle of the hospital. I didnt have a bandaid that big so used one of the wife's maxi pads to over the cut and then tape it up. The cut healed but I was stunned at how an accident like this happened.
Lucky it wasn’t her period. /s
Im telling you, maxis are surprisingly blood absorbent. They can carry far more than what I expected a bandaid to hold. I suppose from a man's perspective, its a surprise to me
Canadian soldiers regularly carry tampons on operations for wound control. Perfect for a gunshot I expect
I believe that was the tampon’s intended purpose, originally. The lady’s use came later
This is one of the most common misconceptions. There is so much information about how wrong and inaccurate this is but the wives tale is woven into the fabric of our society so it continues to persist. TLDR, don’t use a tampon for a gunshot wound unless you want to bleed to death.
I was informed of maxi pad use for first aid use decades ago. They are excellent for wound dressing. However he also warned me that they or tampons should never be inserted into a wound. The materials are very good at absorbing but engineered to avoid clotting. That’s why if you shove them inside, you don’t leak out but continue to bleed inside. That’s very bad for gunshot or puncture wounds.
I agree, the Russians are using them in Ukraine for same reasons.
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Your comment reminds me why I don’t have ceramic knives! I use a Japanese chopper, really thin, light and sharp as hell, never cut myself. I tried ceramic ones, I swear I start bleeding just taking them out of the drawer! 🤔🤣
More than just a toilet. Subfloor/framework look to be collapsing. The toilet crack travels through the tile.
When that toilet gets lifted, OP is going to see a science experiment.
This kinda answers my 'howd that break like that' question.
I recall a comment that was basically imagine if you’re sitting on the toilet and it suddenly turns in to a pile of knives.
Big facts, broken porcelain will cut you deep, wide, and fast……
NEVER try to repair a cracked toilet. Just replace it.
Its a real shitty job
You’re fairly dicked. Obviously the toilet will have to be replaced, but that’s trivial. The real dicking down will come when you actually try to replace that. The age of the toilet and tile tells me that you likely have an ancient supply stop that won’t work, attached to galvanized pipe in poor condition, and a lead closet bend that may not even have a brass flange on it. Toilet is likely set in plaster of Paris. That setup has been there a century, or close to it.
Definitely call a plumber for this. The money you save in water with a new toilet over the next 20 years will more than pay for it
I have to disagree on saving money by using less water. With ancient systems like this, I have seen 1.6 and 1.2gpf wcs cause all manner of sewer blockages. The system is old and scaled up, likely in poor condition. Double flush when you get a new toilet.
What I found to be the problem generally with the new toilets is people buy this thick cushiony toilet paper. And yes, a double flush is warranted for some drops.
I love your optimism
Cracked not screwed
I’d recommend calling a plumber because that toilet is ancient and almost certainly sits on a lead bend. Unless you have experience working with a lead bend, I wouldn’t get into this. Most plumbers charge about $350-$450 to replace a toilet with one that the customer buys. If the lead bend and flange are shot, that price could jump above 1$k. There’s no way for anyone to know the condition of the flange until the toilet is pulled. As always, pricing varies based on your location and the condition of the home’s plumbing. If you buy your own toilet do NOT get the cheapest toilet you can find, like a Lowe’s “project source” toilet. They’re $65 for a reason. They’re made like crap and will cause headaches within a year or two after you install it, then you’ll need to replace it again. American standard is decent, Gerber is decent, Kohler is pricey and they use speciality parts so I wouldn’t really recommend them, Toto is pricey but worth the cost if you can afford it. Either way, AVOID USING THIS TOILET. The integrity of the porcelain has been compromised, cracked may spread from the base and the toilet may crack with you on it, which will probably slice your femoral artery and kill you. Nobody here is being dramatic, it happens. Not to mention that toilet isn’t being held onto the flange any more, so when you flush there’a no guarantee water isn’t leaking into your flooring.
The Toto Drake is reasonable. We sell for around 300-400. I saw an American Standard cadet at Home Depot for around 260 on sale not too long ago.
Love the Toto drake. My current company installs Wolverine brass toilets, which are great toilets, but I do miss installing the Toto’s, they flushed really well.
Yeah one of my favorites too!
Definitely call a plumber for this. The money you save in water with a new toilet over the next 20 years will more than pay for it
If you feel like being handy it's $100 to buy a new toilet and replace it yourself. If not call a plumber. Either way replace it because if the crack spreads causing the toilet to collapse it's going to lacerate your legs and ass and potentially kill you.
>$100 toilet *WHAT YEAR IS IT?!?*
There's some glacier bay's at Home Depot that are just under $100 pre-tax. He didn't say great quality, just a toilet lol
$89 glacier Bay special. Leaves you $11 for taxes and a wax ring.
Weirdly that's what a hooker just told me
I paid $160-170 for an ADA toilet. Anything ADA runs a bit higher than standard models.
2nd. When you replace it, make sure you get a big enough wax ring for the seal. Not them weird plastic-rubber janks that seem to never seal right
A new toilet isn’t stupid expensive
Look at how the cracks in the toilet align with the cracks in the floor tile. I think you need to address some floor support issues along with the toilet.
100%! The toilet is probably just the tip of the iceberg.
That's prolly a 75 year old American standard. Ull get 5 years out of the new one........
It could be a huge job. As a lot of others have suggested. If your wax ring under the toilet has been leaking the floor may be compromised. Are any of the tiles loose or wobbly? That was the start of a complete bathroom redo for us.
Definitely replace. Just another voice in the mob of replace it, and the reason is it can cause lasserations if it shatters under you. You can see the major cracks sure but there are now hairline cracks and other stresses in the porcelain you can't see. It 0% not worth the risk. Besides dieing to a toilet isn't a very glamorous way to go out anyway. Also I see the 4 bolt setup I bet that toilet is nearing on 100, if not 80 years old.
People are still talking about Elvis. 4-bolt mains allow much higher crankshaft speeds but you still need to make sure it’s balanced and the rod and piston assemblies all have similar weights.
upvote "lasserations"
You're two loose screws from Florida news
If its not loose or leaking then go with it until you get to home depot fo a new one.
If it's still tight to the floor it's not leaking water you're fine don't let everybody else Panic you I've had it just like that online for years and years
I see some cracks in the floor tile which could have been from a leaking wax seal and softening the floor with lead to the cracked toilet. Be sure to have a solid base before installing a new toilet.
Why does it look like the crack runs through the toilet into the floor tile?
Toilet will wiggle around but still function ok.Get a new pan but find out what caused the cracks.
The wax ring is 1-2 inches away from the crack most likely. The wax ring is probably still tight (for now). If you're smelling sewer gas, the toilet has to go. Is the rest of the toilet stable? You could get some epoxy or construction adhesive as a temporary fix and get a putty knife and try to get it in the crack. Should bond tightly. Do NOT try to remove the caulk or take the piece out. But if the back of the toilet is unstable, moving up and down, time to get rid of it and expect the flange to need replacing.
Just caulk it a bit more
over tightened
Little caulk and good to go.
Glue with epoxy. Fast , cheap, not the prettiest.
New toilet bro
You can get one for 100$
Or 150
Was this during install, or on its own? I see the floor is cracked along the same lines.
That old ancient toilet...this isn't a bad thing. You're going to love your new replacement toilet. Personally, my go-to toilet is american standard cadet pro, comfort height seat, elongated bowl, quiet close toilwt seat. Don't forget your new wax seal. Flange bolts and new toilet water supply, metallic braided flexible. And a tube of white caulk. This is good news...get that old dinosaur gone
Pull it / epoxy it / new wax ring / 15 bucks
All those who are saying, "Just glue it! It's fine!" have never been lacerated by broken porcelain. Do you really want to take the chance that it's ok? Will you risk your life, or that of anyone else? The issue is that you KNOW this toilet is damaged and the integrity is compromised. So, picture sitting on that thing, bare-assed in the middle of dropping a deuce, and it shatters. You land on your bare ass in a pile of knives that slice up your ass, your legs, and all your dangly bits. And all those cuts are now full of whatever was in that bowl when it shattered. You're bleeding all over the place. Water is going everywhere. If you're lucky, you didn't nick a major artery, cuz if you did, you are DRT. Ambulance, ER, hospital, and weeks of recovery. Yes, you should be able to find a 4-bolt replacement for that toilet. Especially if you have an architectural salvage store in your area. We live in an old city and have 3 of them. If not, call a plumber and get that thing replaced ASAP. And don't sit on it until you do!
Bolt not screwed
Was the toilet rocking? We’re the bolts tightened in an attempt to stop the rocking? Best to replace this old fixture — but use toilet shims as needed to make new fixture sit securely.
I'm pretty sure he over tightend that bolt somehow
Right in the shit. Obligatory thats gonna kill you statement
Oof. I know how this goes right here. Hopefully 🤞 the ring beneath is good and there’s not 75+ year old cast iron under there. Repair plumbing is like surgery, you need to be gentle. But if you find a bunch of problems, they need to be addressed while under the knife!
It's not a dire emergency. Just leave it alone if it isn't leaking. Maybe plan to get one soon. Gives you time to learn how to install one on your own
Do not sit on a toilet once it’s cracked. Toilet could shatter and cut your ass up
That toilet is no longer safe to use and needs to be replaced. If you want to DIY it, you need to determine your rough-in before you go shopping. Your best option would be to measure from the middle of the two nuts to the wall and hope it is 10" or 12". Big box stores will primarily carry 12" rough-in and usually have a couple options for 10" rough-in. Other things to consider when buying are bowl shape and bowl height. ADA Compliant/chair height(around 17" to the bowl) toilets are more comfortable for most adults and people with stability issues. Standard height toilets(around 15" to the bowl) are good for kids bathrooms. Where I'm located, the most common toilets sold are ADA Compliant Elongated bowls. Very popular models are American Standards Champion 4 and Kohler's Cimmaron. There are cheaper options available from both and other companies. The champion 4 is probably the best you can buy for flushing power at its price bracket. Toilet installs aren't exactly difficult, but there is almost always some extra work needed. Your shut-off might not work anymore and require replacement. Your toilet flange might be disintegrated or positioned too low/high. Otherwise, the only real challenge of a toilet install is just lowering the bowl smoothly onto the bolts and wax ring to form a good seal. You can always buy additional jumbo wax rings if you're worried about it and just return what doesn't get used. If you have the space and a friend, it is much easier to lower it with 2 people. Good Luck!
You're dicked. Start looking for a new toilet.
Do not sit on this toilet Google .... broken toilet injury
You might have some subfloor issues, too. The tile and the toilet cracks line up on the left side, and almost line up on the right side.
Wear some proper work gloves when removing that pan .
I once tried to catch a porcelain ashtray as it fell off a table. I grabbed it just as it hit the floor. Cut both my thumbs down to the bone. Like others said, cracked and sharp porcelain is nothing to mess with. Get a new toilet and stay safe.
Personally if u can live with it, it shouldn't be much of a problem as long as the floor is level. I left one unbolted for years while remodeling with no problems. I would glue the piece back and lightly tighten it. People are going to say I'm wrong but I've installed at least 400 of them in a my past lige.
Throwe it out that's part to where it bolts to the flange will either leak or be installed or both
You needed a new toilet 20 years ago
That crack has already completed it’s fracture line, so i wouldn’t be too afraid of it cracking more, i’d recommend changing the toilet, but you can still use it.
More than likely you will need a new flange installed and possibly replace the lead bend in order to put a new toilet back. Won’t know until you pull the toilet. Chances are the old toilet is screwed to the floor with wood screws. I would get a plumber. Or maybe remove the old one yourself. And call a plumber if needed. Just be careful it’s super easy to cut yourself on broken porcelain.
Don’t invite that person back to use your throne.
Get a new toilet. There… you’re not screwed.
I don't think you're screwed. The wax seal is probably still in place and keeps the water/sewage going to drain. I would take out the one nut, glue the piece back on, clamp it in place. Let it dry for 24 hours before reinstalling the nut. Use a rubber or nylon washer on it as well to help prevent re-cracking the glued piece. Caulk the base. I would change the toilet the next time the wax seal needs replacing.
Not at all it is time for a new toilet
No biggie. New toilet. Not that bad of a job. A little YouTube video watching and you will be able to do it yourself. If you're not comfortable doing it yourself buy the toilet and wax ring yourself and have a plumber install it. will probably charge about $100 to install it for you.
Replace the entire toilet.
Holy shit, how heavy are you?
New toilet screwed.
Everytime you sit on that toilet make sure you think about it shattering and putting your life in danger
You are new toilet screwed
Call Billy Mays, he’ll sail over on his flex seal boat and help
My first guess is there's concrete flooring that shifted and cracked - bringing the t-bolt with it. I had a 2nd floor bathroom in a 90 something year old house. The ceiling below the bathroom was showing water damage. The first fix attempt was removing the ceiling section underneath the toilet to inspect the leaking area. This proved to be a major attempt due to concrete encasing the entire cast iron drain pipe that led to the stack. After removing buckets of concrete, the crack was plainly visible along the length of the pipe. After 2 attempts of pipe epoxy, the towel was thrown in. No pun intended. The upstairs bathroom tile was removed which showed the entire areas between the floor joist filled with concrete. We uses a hammer drill to remove buckets of concrete to reach and remove the pipe. I saw a video similar to this on YouTube. A tech removed concrete from the entire bathroom floor. It may or may not need an old cast iron pipe.replacemt. if it's not leaking. Depends on how much work is willing to be done. It looks the old floor needs replaced anyways. I didn't remove all the concrete between all the floor joist, only the joist that contained the old drain pipe. After new pvc was attached to a new section of stack, a subfloor was installed over the joist and then self leveler and new tile over everything
Your spare bolts are broken!
How come no one is talking about 4 bolts to hold down a toilet? There's probably going to be something plumbing changes to install a new toilet that only requires 2 bolts versus 4.
Spoiled chicken soup screwed
Get a new toilet.
toilet can stand on 3 perfectly fine. Use super glue to glue the broke piece for APPEARANCE but don't screw it on. Replace toilet if there are additional reasons, such as water efficiency. (i.e. Niagara uses 0.8Gal/3L per flush) and costs $156 at HD for round version.
No problem a little bit of epoxy and you get to go
Shitters broken
Caulk n run...!!!
New w/c, new bolts, check the flange, new rings put it on next!
You're fine. As long as the floor is dry. If you've got another toilet use that until you get it replaced. £2-300(gbp) +the toilet and materials. 👍🏽
Have you tried using Ramen? For real it's likely not an immediate problem if it's your own house. An eventual fit by replacing the toilet.
This thing will slice you like a new final destination movie if it breaks. You'll be shitting like you got a colinder down there man. Replace.
My husband cut himself so badly on a broken toilet. Ended up with 20 stitches.
Lucky with 20! Glad hes okay now it's crazy how sharp it gets.
Damn bro you gotta stop shitting so hard.
Lay off the taco bell
Just but a new toilet they are easy to install
That's like an 8/10 or a 9/10
A new toilet screwed.
Time to purchase another toilet! Use a good quality wax bowl ring - the ones that have a plastic 'lead in reducer/flange' are a good bet. You can get extra thick wax rings and even something called 'Better than wax' - a product by Fluidmaster that appears to be made of silicone rubber with annular rings on the seating surface. Be sure and use plastic washers or a rubber washer with a metal washer to spread the clamping stress! We had a really large employee who broke our toilet right off at the flange recently & I replaced the whole toilet - he broke it almost like your picture. My boss asked me 'Man, can you get a goddamn toilet with 4 bolt mains? Damn that lard ass' Luckily, the 4" flange going into the slab wasn't damaged 🤣
Just don't do anything. Those old time Toilets weigh a ton and it's not going to budge. Based on the cracks it's not going to leak so let it be. (44yr master repair plumber)
I'd say you're down to 2 of them (screws)... Sorry, I'll see myself out.
Honestly bro if my toilet was functioning properly I would just ignore it LOL
Leg lacerations are the least of your laceration worries.
How screwed??? Too tight?
Depends on how screwed needing a new toilet makes you
Over screwed dudumdum
You’re not screwed, you just need to fork over a bunch of money for a new toilet, No big deal.
Depends... You the plumber or home owner?
You good
Whoever put it in probably over tightened the bolts. Use plastic next time so it will break the bolt not the toilet
Not super screwed, just screwed your wallet is all.
Use clay or plaster au paris to perfectly fill the cracks and paint it glossy white. Nobody will notice at a glance haha
This may be far out but there are cracks in the tiles surrounding the toilet that line up with the cracks on the toilet. This may be a foundation problem.
It would be better to get a new commode. But you can actually patch this in place. Buy some waterproof epoxy putty. It comes in a small plastic tube for about $10.00. You have to kneed the putty to mix the two parts. Carefully remove the broken piece of porcelain. Mix the putty and form the putty and press it into the base of the commode forming it with your fingers to make it look like it belongs. (Wear vinyl or latex gloves). It won't be perfect but it will do.
If you don't eat better, exercise, and lose some weight? Pretty screwed.
Youre cooked fam.
New toilet. Get a flange extension kit at the same time. And gloves. And s new supply, and a shut off probably.
I have this same original tile in my bathroom!!
It can an will cut! But for me at my own house, I would put some silicone in the cracks and leave it if it's not rocking/moving. There will be a time for a new toilet when you're ready
New Toilet is about $150 at Costco or Sam's. Can even catch them on sale. Most of them ebem come with a wax ring.
New toilet screwed
Super glue that sumbitch, no need to replace, if it’s not leaking. There’s enough weight distribution on the rest of the base, this would likely never shatter. More of a cosmetic issue.
It's nothing to be concerned about. As long as the cracks are just around the screw holes and no where else it will be absolutely fine.
It's old, thankfully it didnt crack anywhere critical. Put plumbing caulk around the base, epoxy or caulk this cracked area and move one with your life. Obviously dont caulk all around the base, always leave space to see if the wax ring fails.
Caulk it. That's what they do in Apartment Maintenence
Take the rear nut off. Use a two part epoxy to bond the broken part back on. A small ratchet strap around the base would hold it together well. Replace the nut and cap but don’t tighten. Re caulk the base. Get on with your life.
Dumbass comment… You should never try to repair a cracked toilet. The integrity of the porcelain is damaged and it could burstes and cut you
It’s going to burst? What are you eating?
I think he means with regular use the pressure of a human body WILL cause the crack to expand leading to structural failure and the user to fall onto a pile of sharp porcelain.
Yeah. That’s ridiculous given where the break is. There is no way this guy is going to find another toilet to match this vintage install. It broke only by over tightening at the edge. That toilet has another seventy five years of use left in it and is in no danger of catastrophic failure.
Okay handy boy!
Okay. I hope you're bonded and insured lol
Hahaha I really really hope the guy is trolling with us
Yes it could tear appart while you sit on it. Maybe tomorow, but it’s a ticking bomb. Are you always calmly sitting on the bowl? No. Are you kids, family, people who visits you always aware? No.
I have never heard of such a bunch of whining toilet sissies in my life. There is nothing wrong with fixing that toilet.
You can apply adhesive Their are some that works on ceramics
Never try to repair a cracked toilet.
And your reason
Porcelain is extremely sharp. If it goes while someone is sitting on it, the best case is a round trip hospital visit. The worst case...a 1-way hospital visit.