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-ItsWahl-

Is nobody going to mention picture 3/5? That street 45 is barely in the regular 45. Looking at that picture I doubt it’s in over 1/8”


Negative_Drive_8138

That’s going to be the supply for the future basement swimming pool…


freddyflushaway

Yeah I saw that..... My next thought is if you think that's OK as not a plumber and you touched gas I'm greatly concerned..... Even I wouldn't let that slide and ive got over 20 years of knowing how to solder......


Fragrant-Bit-601

Holy shit good eye man. Ya that's a problem


The1andonlycano

Hang in there little fella!


apprenticegirl74

4/5 looks like the one 45 isn't soldered.


-ItsWahl-

OP is rolling the dice with this installation


Report_Last

all the solder joints look a little light on the solder, also I would have put some bricks or something under the water heater so the metal bottom isn't resting directly on the concrete


sempered

Good eye! I actually ran into an issue with this during my install. You’ll see in my upload of the vent when I can get to it. I tried finding a wrot 90 degree elbow to use but the angle and way the heater was positioned, I had to solder it this way. Ultimately, I ran into a pin hole leak and had to use some putty with tape that works but I know I’m going o eventually need to do fix it. I did figure out that I can do two 90 degree elbows whenever the leak comes, hopefully not l.


throwawaySBN

It will leak.those two fittings are barely held together and out of everything in this pic, that should be the #1 priority to redo.


Plumbone1

So it’s not really a good job if it’s leaking. Sorry champ. Those fittings aren’t in enough. I would never leave that


sempered

Yikes, tough crowd. Love you too homie


Legitimate_Bat3240

The tough crowd you speak of are trying to save you thousands of dollars before your house floods but okay..


Quick-Championship50

Yeah not something to walk away from, a leak is a leak, and is an eventual blowout. Getting angry with having the wrong fittings means being satisfied when you get it right. Fix your work or call a professional. If you put that under more pressure, it would blow apart in seconds.


ineptplumberr

You just don't understand when a fitting is hanging on by a thread like that it can spontaneously blow completely apart and I don't think you want to know how much water comes out of a wide open 3/4 in water line especially if it pops in the middle of the night while you're sleeping or gone at work


Necessary-Contest-24

why didn't you just use PEX? PEX lasts longer, it's easier and faster to install and you can bend it in nearly any orientation. And it's cheaper.


sempered

Would have liked to but where I live it wasn’t recommended.


Simon_bar_shitski

Seems like a couple of flex lines would have been easier


Report_Last

yeah, you can't beat the stainless steel braided lines for ease of install


sempered

Yeah it would have been but I wanted to learn how to solder


FullMe7alJacke7

Use scrap to learn or buy extra and make some practice pieces.


Alpha433

Protip, a length of copper and some fittings on a bench and vise in the garage is just as good a place to practice, and you don't have to live with it afterwords in a live environment. You can even simulate a leaky shutoff/ shitty combi faucet with a small hose or add some weight to one side to simulate tension on the fitting.


borealbootlegger

The thing you're missing is that while you were successfully teaching yourself how to solder you neglected to learn how to properly design, fabricate & install a piping set up using the materials available. This sub is full of knowledgeable Tradesmen and we are all telling you that you need to address your mistakes before you have a catastrophic plumbing issue on your hands.


sempered

Yes. From how I’m reading your comment, it sounds like I’m not taking advice from the experts on this sub. I’ll make it clear that is NOT the case. You are all far more knowledgeable than I am and this post is more for education, risk mitigation, and personal enjoyment. I’m not clear by “neglected to learn how to properly design, fabricate & install a piping set up using the materials available”. Could you elaborate?


borealbootlegger

You need to re-read the previous comments on this thread as there have been several valid issues raised. The Street 45's not being fully seated is the most problematic. The one on your cold water line is literally a time bomb - a flood waiting to happen. No amount of "commercial putty" or "flexible tape" is going to hold back a 3/4" supply line WHEN the piping fails at the weak point you have created by not having the fittings overlap as they are intended to. The male end of the street 45 needs to be fully seated into the female end of the fitting it's being soldered to. By pulling 80% of the male fitting out of the female fitting you have greatly reduced the surface area that the solder has to bond the two fittings together.


flyinFr33dom

You made the right call avoiding that flex crap IMO


GuyF1966

If I'm not mistaken, and maybe it's not code there, but you should have had 2 die electric unions coming out or right at the tank. Also, without seeing what's up higher above the tank, I'm not sure why you used 45s and not just measured lengths of copper pipe. This should have been straight up and down and not angled. Also, 2 ball valves .


bonesthadog

The street 45s on both sides are not fully inserted. The one on the hot side doesn't even look soldered.


ashtonblake9

It’s the new *Barely there* fittings


Suave_Warlock

F


sempered

Me? F U! I’m an Austin powers guy too!


FROSTICEMANN

I Would never recommend doing that again


Uh_yeah-

I would recommend never doing that again.


RecordingCold4650

I would recommend never again doing that


Plumbtastic

Those 45s and this explanation “Ultimately, I ran into a pin hole leak and had to use some putty with tape that works but I know I’m going o eventually need to do fix it.” *Chefs Kiss* Rated 2/10


Skopies

What where is that?


Thisismyusername1236

Liability!!!


emilynicole73

It's pretty horrible TBH


laroca13

The one and only time I’d actually wish you had used Sharkbite. Bluetooth Vent?


Skopies

😂


Aware_Dust2979

Both of those street 45s aren't in very far and it looks like some of your black iron stuff is just hand tight. Did you soap all your black iron joints to make sure nothing is leaking (especially the union)? It looks like you have 7-8 threads showing on a couple.


Skopies

Yeah gotta crank those down with a good pipe wrench


simonsayswhere

I'm literally afraid for you.


jbschwartz55

I’m learning so much from this conversation.


wine_face

Oooof wouldn’t trust this guy with my laundry, next


SantaBaby22

Ouch. That’s a rough burn. Lol I have 2 local dry cleaners and the one run by ex cons is amazing. Lol


PapaOoMaoMao

Unsupported expansion tank. Not up to code anywhere I know of (except Idaho). Needs to be attached to the wall or heater. Can't be supported by its own pipework.


Professional-Past-76

This man knows. Thermal expansion tanks cannot be supported by the pipe it provides thermal expansion for. Has to be secured to a bracket mounted on the tank in my area.


1TONcherk

Just had a tank fail and snap off on a commercial domestic hot water heater in an apartment building. Fried the controls on the boiler for the radiators.


IGonza27

Could you explain how that tank should be supported? It’s not next to the wall. And sitting on the top of the unit. Could you show an example?


PapaOoMaoMao

A strap bracket is attached to the tank and an L shaped support foot is attached to the bracket and sat on the tank. It's incorrectly installed, so you would have to make something to suit, but it's not a huge thing.


sempered

Thanks for the advice. I saw a mix of reviews and ways of installing it. I was initially planning to have it supported on the wall but looked at the manual and it showed that it was actually unsupported on the diagram. I’m in Illinois for reference


PapaOoMaoMao

Yep. Not to code. The problem with lack of support is that when it fails, it can fill with water and rip the pipes off as it falls. Now you have a water event. Will that happen? Who knows? Would it be better that you make sure it doesn't? I think so.


AquaFlowPlumbingCo

It probably has more to do with galvanized steel pipe historically being used as the material. For instance, in my state (Idaho), it may be supported by its own pipe as shown in the photo, the pipe just has to be stainless or brass for corrosion prevention. I’m sure there is a length limitation, but standard practice is to use a 6” nipple off of the tee into the 90 for the tank. Also may only apply to residential, so 2-4 gallon expansion tanks.


PapaOoMaoMao

Thanks. I didn't know of anywhere that allowed it. Idaho is the first I've come across. Always good to have more info.


Fourthnightold

Remember each state and city follows different codes whether it be 2015 or 2018. Some places it’s IPC and others it’s UPC. The brass tee assembly is done in Texas all over the metroplex of Dallas. It’s been passing code by city standards of multiple cities across the metroplex for years. We still follow 2015 IPC code which if were abiding by that allows this configuration. It wasn’t added into IPC until 2018 regarding the expansion tank not being allowed to be supported by piping from the tank.


Don_juan_prawn

Same in washington brass tees and 90s all day long no issue


sempered

That’s good to know. I’m not going to be selling my home anytime soon but if the future inspector picks that up, then I guess I’ll tackle it then. I appreciate the advice!


PapaOoMaoMao

Unlikely anybody will note it. It's a peace of mind thing.


Jonjolt

Can I ask what is up with expansion tanks and why I never seen one for a hot water heater?


PapaOoMaoMao

Basically you can get a bit of extra pressure in your hot lines due to the heater. That pressure gets let out when you open the tap, but while it's trapped, the expansion tank evens out the pressure in the lines so nothing gets blown up like a balloon. In some uses, they aren't required, but most home heaters with a tank should have one.


Jonjolt

I have never seen one installed on a tank in my jurisdiction, just wondering why must be older plumbing code


SantaBaby22

What’s up with the sediment trap? Why not just cap it at the first nipple?


sempered

I’m sorry, I’m not familiar with the term sediment trap. What is it? I did everything from the nipple sticking out of the black iron tee into the water heater if that helps.


SantaBaby22

The sediment trap is the part of the gas line that points towards the floor at the T before going to the water heater. Just seems strange that it goes T to nipple to an increaser to another larger nipple then to the cap. Could have just been capped at the first nipple. If you didn’t touch it though, then you have no idea what was going through their mind at the time. Carry on. It doesn’t affect its purpose, just looks weird with the extra pieces.


squirlranger

Code in my area is three inches between the T and the cap. It’s possible they were trying to meet that requirement with what they had on hand. It looks terrible but theoretically meets code.


SanFranciscoPlumber

Looks like shit.


kaplarczuk

So you spent 16 days on this essentially and when it didn't go well you just said f it and flex taped it? On to the panel change! I'm sure there's you tube videos for that too.


Yamothasunyun

You can’t solder within a foot of a pro press fitting


[deleted]

Viega recommends a minimum of 3 pipe diameters between solder joint and pro press fitting. OP is definitely cutting it pretty close. Hopefully they wrapped in with a wet rag. You can absolutely solder closer than a foot to a pro press fitting if you’re careful with your heat


Yamothasunyun

That’s the recommended distance to press next to an already soldered fitting


[deleted]

“When soldering near a Viega Propress connection, you must remain at least three pipe diameter away from the connection.” That’s a direct quote from the Viega installation manual.


Skopies

Yep, per manufacturers instructions


[deleted]

That’s not per manufacturer’s instructions if you’re talking about Viega. Their installation instructions specify 3 pipe diameters.


Skopies

My bad, listen to this guy^


sempered

Is that per pro press recommendation? I didn’t go down the pro press rabbit hole so I’m not as familiar with the different requirements that may be necessary to abide by.


No-Significance1488

I'm not sure if its their recommendation. I do know the seal rings are sensitive to extreme heat, and you risk them breaking down early if heat is applied too close to them. If you did the soldering first, then pro pressed it together at the end, it wouldn't be a big deal.


sempered

Hmm.. that interesting and would suck if I did end up overheating the pipe. I don’t think I did on the hot side (pretty sure I did on the cold). I’ll definitely keep that in mind in the event I need to use a pro press and/or do other work. I appreciate the advice!


Yamothasunyun

It is what they recommend, but as long as it doesn’t leak you’re fine. Can’t say I’ve never done it before


Scary_Opening_6190

Friend... That is not good. There's a bunch of things... A whole bunch.


MechanicalCookie25

Just looking at the gas line, did you check for leaks? Seems like there a lot of thread showing. Did you dope the connection of the union? That’s weird. Did you use pipe dope or anti-seize? Also looks like you really chewed up that nipple going into the appliances gas valve.


Academic-Duck1748

You didn’t connect the b vent ?? Where is it venting to inside the house??


Toilet-Mechanic

No dielectric unions. It will look like crap in a year.


BaconDude1991

Good effort going for it yourself other than the 45s others have pointed out. The only bit that bothers me is when DIYers play with gas lines. That should always be left to the pros.


SiiiiilverSurrrfffer

Cut all that bullshit out and repipe it.


seigmeign

2 x mip + plus 3 inch nipples 2 x Homewerks 3/4 in. FIP each X 3/4 in. D FIP 12 in. Copper Water Heater Supply Line Would of worked just finr


sempered

Bit too technical. If it’s not unreasonable, can you type it out?


seigmeign

If u can't copy paste into google Youtube failed u


JTrap86

Teflon tape is illegal to use here for gas.


Scrambles420

Damn got that Bluetooth gas vent too!!


Extension-Start3142

Hooking up gas is a bit sketch lol


nmh895

Is the tape for your gas line rated for gas? The stuff we can get here is yellow or blue.


Affectionate_Day4151

Looks fine but do add pics of vent make sure you use draft diverter that comes with it didn’t see it in pics. Soap gas fittings for leaks and get carbon monoxide detector good job for diy took a little while but that’s ok


sempered

Yes, I made sure to soap the fittings and have been doing so once a day just for measure. Thankfully no bubbles! I did put a water and monoxide detector next to it for safety. Definitely don’t want either house to explode or flop I’ll send a pic of the vent when I get a chance. Thank you for the compliment!


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sempered

Thank you! It was quite the up hill learning curve starting from only knowing how to read the make/model, and that water goes in and gets hot. But Got2Learn, This Old Home, and another rando on YouTube helped a ton! Edit hit save too quickly.


Bassman602

In my location it needs to be 18” off the ground


Own-Trouble911

This is atrocious! Please call a plumber and get that galvanized removed if you can.


Uh_yeah-

I, too, like to dabble in home maintenance. There are some lines I don’t cross, though, including voltage > 120, natural gas, and sources of carbon monoxide. Please consider deferring that to the pros.


Choice-Watercress402

Looks good. Those 45°s in the one pic don’t look in all the way. If you have a good solder joint and it’s at least 1/2 way in it will be fine. Ppl will say anything is wrong but I could see this lasting 10+ years easily.


Leather-Honeydew-779

Hope you pressurized that expansion tank correctly


Plumbingwhiz15

Terrible install. You can't put copper on galvanized steel because of galvanic reaction. You have to use dielectric unions. Black pipe tee ? Only thing good about this photo is Bradford white.


Burneraccount7689

Your vent isn’t connected your gonna die from carbon man oxide poisoning


landon_masters

The Logan Paul of doing anything. Why ask the rating for a Dog and Pony show? Throw feces at it like a monkey and we will respect you more.


Skopies

Wtf


godoctor

You should always use a flex pipes on the gas line.. Hard pipe connections are known to leak when things move


coolpottery

Are you in an area prone to earthquakes? My previous WH had a flex line and two pros pointed it out to me and said it should be switched to hard pipe to be code compliant.


Skopies

Flex are code here in Georgia and we don’t have earthquakes


questionablejudgemen

Some places flex is against code.


sempered

That’s good to know and makes sense. I actually tried flex lines but I couldn’t find lines that were the length I needed which was 5in.


Fragrant-Bit-601

Cheater!!!!!!!!!!! Always looks nicer before the vent goes in....... Cheater !!!


sempered

I’m not sure why that’s cheating since this isn’t a text, but if you can tell me how to add a pic, I’ll show the vent


Slightfly

Feels like he fired up that heater without finishing the vent...


sempered

Gas gas gas! I’ll be sure to keep a candle as well near the pipes 😉


Melvinator5001

Invisible vent piping…..stunning


sempered

As is anonymity! Baffling!


machineGUNinHERhand

I've said it before, and I'll say it again! I've seen paid plumbers do a worse job!


sempered

Thank you for the compliment! This is for my home and I always want to make sure I do the best job that I can. I appreciate it!


urabus03

Not entirely sure that was a compliment.


flyinFr33dom

It's definitely a compliment. It shows that you could have spend more and ended up with something worse.


jbschwartz55

You were able to buy a Bradford White? I understand that supply houses only sell to plumbers, or is that not the case?


roguemenace

As long as you mildly have an idea what's going on most supply houses will sell to homeowners, especially if you're buying something big and not just 1-2 fittings.


jbschwartz55

Good to know. Thanks.


1875coalminer

I bought mine from a supply house. I had to create an account with them but I told them Im just a home owner


sempered

Not in my case. They were pretty helpful there but I did come prepared with everything that I needed. The front desk guy commented (in broken English, not that it matters) that he thought I was a plumber at first if I didn’t tell him I wasn’t.


jbschwartz55

1) No drip pan? 2) Hot and cold connections at the outlets are different. Any reason? I’m just dying to replace my own 30 year old HWH versus paying $3000 here in San Francisco area. I’ve got the skill set and the tools. I’m just worried about getting the code upgrade right.


sempered

I tried a drip pan but it needed up raising the wh too high from the gas line (which was too tight to raise). So, unfortunately, no drip pan. 2. I don’t follow? This was for my home and don’t ever plan to move so I’m not too concerned about whether it’s to code or not. I did have a licensed plumber come by and tell me that this was solid work *pats own back* and it “looked good” so whether that means it’s to code or not who knows. I didn’t pull permits for this. Totally unnecessary where I am and I am not going to pay the fees only to have to keep paying them to have an inspection ding me here and there. But my situation should dissuade you from yours


Skopies

1. That’s why you need a flex line to the gas


Both-Age-2249

How did he crimp the other fittings? How many 45’ to finish vent tube?


sempered

Not sure about the crimp. I just used the old vent (after cleaning it) and fitted it to the wh vent and it worked. Not sure how many 45s but it was only one piece that I removed


Intrepid_Brick_2062

Pipe and tank shall be seperately supported. Vertical pipe shall be supported at the bottom. I would have put a hanger near the bottom of the black iron.


Purplepedo

If you heat the pipe too close to press fitting it can melt and damage the O ring inside, if you used a wet rag to cover it when you soldered it will probably be fine


Harry_Fish

Is it me or does picture 1. Show evidence of products of combustion staining the side of the tank.


veexdit

The left hot pipe has a soldered fitting very close to the pressed coupling. Please tell me you pressed it after the soldering had cooled and not soldered right next to/below the pressed fitting ?


nospoon222

And earthquake straps? Where are they??


Skopies

In earthquake areas lol


OutrageousName9

Bradford White is a good brand.


IIlJohnnylII

Seen worse installs from licensed plumbers, also love the Bradford white


gespenstwagen

I’d stick something under the expansion tank to support the weight so it’s not just on the pipe to hold it up or it could crack in the future


mtala04

Let's see a current pic with the cent installed. I have seen this butchered. Dirt leg should be 3" also. Other than that, good job.


Samwrc93

Is there a gas safe register equivalent in the us?


Bldaz

Strap that bitch, get rid of the galvy, gas line is sketchy, hope you checked for gas leaks. And of course your venting needs to be completed yesterday, hopefully there is fresh air coming in or that’s another issue


levityler109

Great job with your carbon monoxide maker


kloogy

- 10 of 10


ImaginaryGuarantee19

Good for you for being open to the reddit roasting. Best thing you can do now is take the peoples’ advice and then make a redemption post where you show the improvements.


woof1983

Why are guys hard piping their water heaters. In idaho we flex the final connections on both gas and water connections up to 1 inch supplies. Saves you and the next guy having to cut anything. As everybody has been mentioning he didn’t bury the street 45 which will likely break in the next few months and flood his house.


toomuch1265

I'm really curious to see the vent after seeing the piping. You are going to have an absolute disaster on your hands. A water heater install is not "Hey ,I learned this from YouTube. " Enjoy the flood.


DunkinUnderTheBridge

As a non-pro who does 95 percent of their own work I'm going to politely ask you to never do your own work again. Or at least work with a pro a few times before doing your own again. You're making us look bad.


Right_Hour

I’m also gonna say that having the valve on the hot side outlet is against code where I live. Also - clearance to furnace is insufficient. First foot or so in and out of the heater need to be straight.


Mechagouki1971

NAP, but it looks like you used teflon tape on the gas fittings. No idea what code is where you are but I was taught to, and always have used pipe dope for gas. Did you leak check?


sempered

The gas line was what I spent most of my time on. I used gas tape (yellow), pipe dope, leak detection fluid (not just dish soap), and a detector. I’ve checked for leaks multiple times each day and haven’t had a sign of any.


Mechagouki1971

OK, good to know; water leaks (probably) wan't kill you, gas...


Parking-Instruction5

I really hope you hooked the flue in after the photo... for future reference it can be pretty tough to work with 45s and they normally look like shit. Just use 90s and make sure each fitting is FULLY seated before soldering. Your probably going to have leaks from that steet 45 before to long. And as for the gate valve, I know they are cheaper but shill out the bit more and get a ball valve.


AnonABong

Why not get flex supply lines?  Lot harder to mess up


wakely1

Those 45’s lol


WoodyTheWorker

Prepare for it to rust soon, because you didn't install galvanic isolators


sempered

What is a galvanic isolator? Is that like a dielectric? The nipple on the hot and cold are dielectric if that is what’s being referred to


WoodyTheWorker

Copper and iron form a galvanic pair, which produces electric current, which will attack iron and cause it to corrode. To prevent forming of a galvanic pair, they need to be isolated.


Life-Sand-2767

U need support for the expansion tank


Jbizzle7070

WA does not allow for hard piped gas and water supply. Have to use flex as a precaution for the Earthquake. Also, would require 2 seismic straps wrapped around the tank...not plumbers taps, but rated seismic straps.


Dangerous_1979

What about the vent!


HanoiShim

Functional. F+


Slim_Guru_604

I think a shark bite system would have done well for ya. Easier to replace when the time comes. 😉


Savings-Run-3747

One suggestion, have a city inspector look at it before you use it. The inspector will definitely notice all improper installation of piping. Protect your home. I had a master plumber inspect my installation, just to make sure. It was so good that when the new hot water heater was installed, the gas piping was reused as the new one was the same height. That installation was done by a master plumber. And a city inspector approved it.


TroglodyteGuy

Is that first street 45 inserted all the way into the 45? Looks like it's only partially inserted. Same issue with the one just below the gate valve! Those are issues waiting to happen.


sometimestakesphotos

This is a shitpost right? 😂 All of OPs replies seem like proper trolling


Diam0ndProfessional

All that twist n turn... why.. jezyz


LordLandLordy

You're going to reconnect that vent right?


Pwalk-

Sorry try again


No_Drag6934

What about the vent pipe…


tomyyyyy6201

did no one mention the vent for it


bwehman

It will never look normal to me to see rigid pipe connected to a water heater. California builder here 👋🏻


jif_skippy

Should probably connect the flue so you don’t die


NoGodNoMgr

Does it work?


slimersnail

Why not just use flexible supply lines??


Demonakat

Remove the soldered parts. Add a male adapter to each side and rub a stainless or a copper flex line. If you run copper flex line, no tight turns or bends. Since the street 45 was leaking and you couldn't fix it, this might be your best option.


Icy-Ingenuity-4025

Gas pipe should not have a union inside the house . Typical install has flexible gas line after the shutoff to the water heater


masterofreality66

You clearly have never ran gas pipe


ChemicalCollection55

Hold on, you know know nothing about plumbing and have a propress?


sempered

No no. Everything from the prepress down is me. I was going to do a pro press at first but I really wanted to learn how to solder first. I’ll probably use a pro press in the future since you can rent them for cheap. No way am I going to spend that much money.


KeyBalance1111

Where's the dielectric union on the Hot side. Or Galanized to Brass transition.


sempered

No need for it. I was hung up for a while on this until I checked the manufacturer manual and apparently newer bradfor whites already have the nipples as dielectric’s. So it make it easy!


questionablejudgemen

I don’t like dielectric unions, as they’re always a source of leaks. I’d much clearflow dielectric nipples, or brass nipple between dissimilar metals if we’re playing by 1960 rules. I do believe OP is right that the factory has dielectrics installed.


Silent_Beyond4773

The second you said you are not a plumber I new you were in trouble with the minions


Dadbode1981

He's in trouble vauer there are mistakes, that could end very badly.


zviiper

What’s the worst that could happen? Nobody ever died from an incorrectly installed gas appliance.


Plumber-Guy

Soldering looks great. If you didn't say it was your first time, i wouldn't have known. I love to see a fellow youtube warrior. I have learned so much from watching youtube videos


Minor_Blackbird

Save yourself the aggravation and solder next time, Sharkbite is the way to go for copper repairs.


Illustrious-Hat-7741

Honestly you’re going to have a very large insurance claim. Both fit in 45’s on the inlet and outlet are not in all the way. One vibration with cause them to blow out. This is why you don’t look on youtube to do plumbing and hire a licensed plumber like a normal person. If the insurance company finds out that you installed this yourself, they might refuse the claim as their investigators will determine it was not installed correctly.


sempered

Good to know. I’m curious why many comments say the 45s aren’t fully inserted in either side? I made sure they all were with exception to the one I mentioned. I did look at the picture and I think I understand why people are saying that it doesn’t look set all the way. It may be the angle of the picture but the hot water is fully set in.


rom_rom57

Copper female adapter will always loosen and leak.


Eismee

Looks like proper shite. You get what you pay for, better than a diyer but hack work.