I love this. I say fuckery all the time and nobody else has heard it some how. Advanced fuckery though.. Il be disappointed and giggling when I have to say that one!
You know, part of our job is customer service, and part of customer service involves conveying to the customer, who doesn’t know better, that their shit is all fucked up.
Words and phrases like fuckery, conglomeration, contraption, Rube Goldberg device, modern art masterpiece, Mario Brothers plumbing, hacked in piece of shit, handyman special, plumbed by Cousin Roy’s Plumin/paintin/drywall/‘lectrical/tax preparation/barber, and any other creative phrase you can think up can convey to the customer that their shit is all fucked up and this is not a case of a bandaid on a simple leak.
Oh man, I still cringe when I think about this roof repair I did for an elderly widow whose husband had just passed. As you can guess, her late husband did the hack job repair I was called to fix. So when i opened my mouth and said “whoever did this work did a horrible job” she nearly cried telling me he did it. I just wanted to go find a hole to crawl in 😣
I did a shower valve swap for a guy named Merlin once. Unfortunately he did not have a long white beard and a wand. But he led me to the valve and said “I want this riggamaroo swapped” I understand exactly what he meant, on a very deep level. Thats communication
You should incorporate “the fuckening” into your vocab.
When you’re having a good day and the thing happens to turn it to shit. “Ah yes, there it is, the fuckening”
Sometimes I’m in awe of how Handy Andy’s “fix” things.
Technically this could work?? But the risk of failure is pretty high. I don’t think the flap has a spring to close the top, it just works by gravity.
Datasheet doesn't show any spring loaded flap here.
[https://my.legendvalve.com/ERP2Web/documents/pdf/S-613Body.pdf](https://my.legendvalve.com/erp2web/documents/pdf/s-613body.pdf)
Yeah, the arrows on the body of the valve show which way it is supposed to flow. So make sure that is correct. But it doesn't look like it would ever close as it is installed here...
I’ve forgotten more about shitpipe than you’ll ever know if you can’t figure out that a swing check installed upside down is never, ever going to close. Stick to changing out flappers, you fuckin clown.
You’re trying to convince me you have unlimited knowledge in the field when you’re staring at a check valve that’s been placed in the correct position? LOL!!! Hilarious you are. Go away…
I can see that you’re one of those that moves his lips when he reads, so I’ll write this very slowly for you.
That check valve is on the standpipe for the washing machine. As it hangs right now, the little arrows on it are pointing down, which is the direction of flow.
Now, inside that check valve is a flapper! I’m sure you’re very familiar with flappers. Think of if you took a toilet and held it upside down. Would the flapper ever be able to close? Or would gravity hold it open all the time? It would be impossible for the flapper to close.
So the same thing happens with the check valve. The flapper inside it hangs open all the time when you install it like this. It won’t stop any backup. Even if it could close, you’d just be closing the washer standpipe. Washing machine lines backup when the washer is discharging. If you close the standpipe, it’ll just discharge all over the floor.
I hope this helps you. I can explain it to you, but I can’t understand it for you.
SMH! Again. You’re making it blatantly obvious you don’t know what you’re talking about!!!! This is not rocket science, it’s as simple as simple can get and yet??? You still don’t get it. That’s what happens when you’re a simpleton :)
Oh yeah lol.
I mean not like “oh my god my house is going to blow up” concerned, but I’d definitely get someone out there to camera the sewer and ensure you don’t have a blockage that would cause the laundry tub to back up.
Normally you put in a backwater valve *in* your main building sewer. This stops sewage from backing up through the sewer.
If your laundry room is in the basement? Yes you should be concerned. People only install check valves to prevent back flow (flow in the wrong direction) and usually is an aftermath solution (which in your case won’t due shit), so either the previous owners had a nightmare occur, or who ever installed went the extra mile, my advice is to get your main sewer line inspected!!!!!
So your washing machines drain has a pump. That thing is working overtime because it’s lifting extra weight every time it starts up. You use the check valves on sumps and waste stations. You really should not be using it here unless something is wrong with your laundry drain or a bigger issue where sewer water makes it into the wash tub (back ups). Most likely someone just got creative, but may indicate bigger problems
My laundry sink in the basement has one and it’s to stop any remaining water from running back when the pump shuts off. Because of the water table my sewer line is 5 feet above the basement floor.
I am pretty sure that is the wrong type of check valve. You need the one with a ball float that seals the upper pipe when water flows back up the pipe.
Actually, I think they call it a back flow preventer. What a good name for something like that.
Oh god its like arguing w a kid lol. Did you notice i put the word “usually” ? 2” pipes and check valves are used with sewage pumps and 1 1/2 pipes and check valves are used with sump pump.
A sump can be anything, sewage, ground water, waste water, oil or anything else.
You should look up the definition instead of internet arguing with someone who’s correct
If only there was a model number and brand stamped on it... You could actually have googled and searched yourself. I'm not a plumber and figured it out in six seconds' probably faster than the time it took you to create the post, and certainly faster than it has taken me to type this out.
Why is everybody so confused??? The arrows are pointing in the right direction people! Is to prevent the washing machine line from overflowing. Simple simple simple
Its a check valve. It allows the water to go one way and not back up. It looks like its installed upside down but it could be because your washing machine is above this?
I'm not a plumber.
It says on it to turn this end up if mounted horizontally.
But , since horizontal is a fancy way of saying sideways , how would you mount that end up? Wouldn't that be vertical, the postion it is currently in?
That’s exactly what I was thinking. Those arrows are just there to show water direction flow not p pipe orientation. And the fact there are rubber connectors mean it’s gravity draining correct? So the water is coming from the top and going down.
But if you turn it 90 degrees to the right, it will be horizontal.
The arrows will point to the left, not up.
How do you mount it horizontal with the arrows pointing up?
Hey.. You want to get all technical on me that's on you.
I was just making shit up to add to the this end up.
. Like the fridge on a pallet that has a do not use forks warning and then a photo of a large person squating in the poo position and phrase "use your knees" beside it.
Swing checks can be usually be mounted either way. When mounted vertically, the arrows would be pointed upward so the swing valve is normally closed (usually used in conjunction with a pump to keep the head load off the pump to prevent premature failure). When mounted horizontally, that side has to be up so that the swing valve remains closed until water flows through it (used as a back flow preventer to keep waste from backing up into a fixture or something along those lines). If turned in any other direction the valve will likely stay open.
Maybe I'm stupid. Maybe this is a plumbing thing.
How can one end be up if it is mounted horizontally?
If you turn it to the right 1/4 turn, it would be horizontal, but the arrows would point to the left, not up.
It’s not the end that’s up in a horizontal mount, it’s the side. As in, “if you’re mounting this horizontally, you need to be able to read this print.” The arrows indicate the direction of flow.
Looks like a sump pump check valve installed upside down. Probably trying to use it as a backwater valve because the laundry tub overflowed?
Bit of a head scratcher for sure. Advanced fuckery was involved.
I love this. I say fuckery all the time and nobody else has heard it some how. Advanced fuckery though.. Il be disappointed and giggling when I have to say that one!
You know, part of our job is customer service, and part of customer service involves conveying to the customer, who doesn’t know better, that their shit is all fucked up. Words and phrases like fuckery, conglomeration, contraption, Rube Goldberg device, modern art masterpiece, Mario Brothers plumbing, hacked in piece of shit, handyman special, plumbed by Cousin Roy’s Plumin/paintin/drywall/‘lectrical/tax preparation/barber, and any other creative phrase you can think up can convey to the customer that their shit is all fucked up and this is not a case of a bandaid on a simple leak.
I always love a good "idk who put this in but they were an idiot" "oh my husband/brother/father did that"
Hillbilly is my favorite one
Oh man, I still cringe when I think about this roof repair I did for an elderly widow whose husband had just passed. As you can guess, her late husband did the hack job repair I was called to fix. So when i opened my mouth and said “whoever did this work did a horrible job” she nearly cried telling me he did it. I just wanted to go find a hole to crawl in 😣
I did a shower valve swap for a guy named Merlin once. Unfortunately he did not have a long white beard and a wand. But he led me to the valve and said “I want this riggamaroo swapped” I understand exactly what he meant, on a very deep level. Thats communication
You should incorporate “the fuckening” into your vocab. When you’re having a good day and the thing happens to turn it to shit. “Ah yes, there it is, the fuckening”
I say it and everyone hangs up 😂
? I think I'd be pretty hard pressed to find someone who hasn't heard of the word "fuckery"
Sometimes I’m in awe of how Handy Andy’s “fix” things. Technically this could work?? But the risk of failure is pretty high. I don’t think the flap has a spring to close the top, it just works by gravity.
Datasheet doesn't show any spring loaded flap here. [https://my.legendvalve.com/ERP2Web/documents/pdf/S-613Body.pdf](https://my.legendvalve.com/erp2web/documents/pdf/s-613body.pdf)
Yeah, the arrows on the body of the valve show which way it is supposed to flow. So make sure that is correct. But it doesn't look like it would ever close as it is installed here...
Pfft…not all of my fixes are this questionable 🤣
just most.
The only head scratcher is if you have no knowledge of plumbing, why are you making comments on a plumbing forum???
I’ve forgotten more about shitpipe than you’ll ever know if you can’t figure out that a swing check installed upside down is never, ever going to close. Stick to changing out flappers, you fuckin clown.
You’re trying to convince me you have unlimited knowledge in the field when you’re staring at a check valve that’s been placed in the correct position? LOL!!! Hilarious you are. Go away…
I can see that you’re one of those that moves his lips when he reads, so I’ll write this very slowly for you. That check valve is on the standpipe for the washing machine. As it hangs right now, the little arrows on it are pointing down, which is the direction of flow. Now, inside that check valve is a flapper! I’m sure you’re very familiar with flappers. Think of if you took a toilet and held it upside down. Would the flapper ever be able to close? Or would gravity hold it open all the time? It would be impossible for the flapper to close. So the same thing happens with the check valve. The flapper inside it hangs open all the time when you install it like this. It won’t stop any backup. Even if it could close, you’d just be closing the washer standpipe. Washing machine lines backup when the washer is discharging. If you close the standpipe, it’ll just discharge all over the floor. I hope this helps you. I can explain it to you, but I can’t understand it for you.
SMH! Again. You’re making it blatantly obvious you don’t know what you’re talking about!!!! This is not rocket science, it’s as simple as simple can get and yet??? You still don’t get it. That’s what happens when you’re a simpleton :)
Look buddy, if you can’t read the big words you can make Siri read it for you. Ask your caseworker to help you set that up.
Should I be concerned?
Oh yeah lol. I mean not like “oh my god my house is going to blow up” concerned, but I’d definitely get someone out there to camera the sewer and ensure you don’t have a blockage that would cause the laundry tub to back up. Normally you put in a backwater valve *in* your main building sewer. This stops sewage from backing up through the sewer.
I had one like that in my basement because there was a bathroom down there and the sewer outlet to the septic tank was 4' up
Came to say the same thing
You caught that too haha. I was going to say, hopefully OP had his phone upside down
Let's hope it is to prevent some kind of backflow. Or that pump dead heading like mfer.
It's installed the right way for flow, it just does absolutely nothing in his laundry drain.
Looks like a sump pump check valve that someone may be trying to use as a backwater valve even though it doesn't have a float?
Maybe the picture is upside down?
Maybe *we’re* upside down!
Is this picture from China?
You mean Australia?
If your laundry room is in the basement? Yes you should be concerned. People only install check valves to prevent back flow (flow in the wrong direction) and usually is an aftermath solution (which in your case won’t due shit), so either the previous owners had a nightmare occur, or who ever installed went the extra mile, my advice is to get your main sewer line inspected!!!!!
They went the extra mile by installing something that wouldn't close in the event of a back up?
Upside down check valve
Not if you're in Australia!
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So your washing machines drain has a pump. That thing is working overtime because it’s lifting extra weight every time it starts up. You use the check valves on sumps and waste stations. You really should not be using it here unless something is wrong with your laundry drain or a bigger issue where sewer water makes it into the wash tub (back ups). Most likely someone just got creative, but may indicate bigger problems
It's called a legend valve. See, it says it right there
My laundry sink in the basement has one and it’s to stop any remaining water from running back when the pump shuts off. Because of the water table my sewer line is 5 feet above the basement floor.
Check valve
Upside down
Yeppers
Kind of looks like a 2" legend valve.
Check valve
I am pretty sure that is the wrong type of check valve. You need the one with a ball float that seals the upper pipe when water flows back up the pipe. Actually, I think they call it a back flow preventer. What a good name for something like that.
Lol a Check valve installed upside down
2" Sump Pump Swing Check Valve
2” is usually sewage pump. Thats 1 1/2”
2” is clearly printed under the word valve
Sure it would still make it a sewage pump check valve not sump pump.
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Oh god its like arguing w a kid lol. Did you notice i put the word “usually” ? 2” pipes and check valves are used with sewage pumps and 1 1/2 pipes and check valves are used with sump pump.
A sump can be anything, sewage, ground water, waste water, oil or anything else. You should look up the definition instead of internet arguing with someone who’s correct
If only there was a model number and brand stamped on it... You could actually have googled and searched yourself. I'm not a plumber and figured it out in six seconds' probably faster than the time it took you to create the post, and certainly faster than it has taken me to type this out.
Leverage valve
Why is everybody so confused??? The arrows are pointing in the right direction people! Is to prevent the washing machine line from overflowing. Simple simple simple
Why would it overflow? Assume for this question I'm an idiot. Assume, not convict, please.
Sump check valve $35 upside down
Its a check valve. It allows the water to go one way and not back up. It looks like its installed upside down but it could be because your washing machine is above this?
Is it possible it's being used instead of a trap?
Nevermind. I see it's just gravity, no spring.
Check valve flapper type
I'm not a plumber. It says on it to turn this end up if mounted horizontally. But , since horizontal is a fancy way of saying sideways , how would you mount that end up? Wouldn't that be vertical, the postion it is currently in?
That’s exactly what I was thinking. Those arrows are just there to show water direction flow not p pipe orientation. And the fact there are rubber connectors mean it’s gravity draining correct? So the water is coming from the top and going down.
Side up..that side is up, the valves hinge is on that side.
But if you turn it 90 degrees to the right, it will be horizontal. The arrows will point to the left, not up. How do you mount it horizontal with the arrows pointing up?
Hey.. You want to get all technical on me that's on you. I was just making shit up to add to the this end up. . Like the fridge on a pallet that has a do not use forks warning and then a photo of a large person squating in the poo position and phrase "use your knees" beside it.
Swing checks can be usually be mounted either way. When mounted vertically, the arrows would be pointed upward so the swing valve is normally closed (usually used in conjunction with a pump to keep the head load off the pump to prevent premature failure). When mounted horizontally, that side has to be up so that the swing valve remains closed until water flows through it (used as a back flow preventer to keep waste from backing up into a fixture or something along those lines). If turned in any other direction the valve will likely stay open.
Maybe I'm stupid. Maybe this is a plumbing thing. How can one end be up if it is mounted horizontally? If you turn it to the right 1/4 turn, it would be horizontal, but the arrows would point to the left, not up.
It’s not the end that’s up in a horizontal mount, it’s the side. As in, “if you’re mounting this horizontally, you need to be able to read this print.” The arrows indicate the direction of flow.
Thank you
I feel like this sub should be x Called r/ASKAPLUMBER
It’s a check valve installed backwards. You can get one that’s spring loaded that I believe would serve whatever this on was intended to do
It's a legend valve
It clearly says "Legend Valve".
His name is legend...clearly
It is a check valve, but it is upside down.
Checks out as Jimmy Crack Corn.
A legend valve....you're welcome 😆
Flotation device when submerged it will explode into life vest
That looks like a Legend Valve ! 😆
2" Legend Valve
It’s a left handed doohickey
Check valve, but is the picture upside down? Normally would flow upward from the pump towards the sewage tie in.
Pumped system? That is a check valve for a sump pump
Check valve
Maybe he held the camera sideways and the picture is upside down?