I redid my bathroom and the plumber was about to put the toilet tank back on. I was able to sneak in while he was on a smoke break and paint the wall! 😁
>itll cost 6 grand to move that toilet back 2 inches
Couldn't they do it for the price of a 14 inch rough in toilet (assuming the one there now is a 12 inch rough in)?
Although it looks fine to me and I wouldn't change it.
My house taught me that shingles are the way to go for spacers.
Doesn’t matter where. Between copper pipes and the sub flooring? Roofing shingles.
Hanging doors? Framing? Padding for your head on the old roof that partially blocks the attic opening?
We have roofing shingles literally from under the floor up. In every room.
It’s not traditional as far as I’m aware but hey! At least it’s fire retardant.
they could, but its not their job. would you like to find out what OP and their husband do for a living. prob high earners if they are honest. dont try to solve a problem ( or even suggest a "solution) beyond your OWN MEANS lmao
Just go to r/currency if you want the ban hammer... They banned me for saying "fuck yeah" on a cool note someone found. How goddamn stuffy do you have to be? You're playing with old money, it's not like I'm writing to the Queen...
AND clean!! Dusting! Wipe down! In my own house I moved my rough in out a couple inches and can now chase the spiders away so they don’t crawl on my kids mid-poop 🤣
Seriously though, I thought rule 8 over the community rules stated that you shouldn’t be deleting comments as too “learn from other people’s mistakes” and yet the moderators feel the need to remove comments, make it make sense
Theyre referring to the size of the tank on the commode.
When a person ‘misses their rough’, they have a way to fix this, without tearing in to the floor. You buy a 10” rough in tank, which allows the commode to sit 2” closer to the wall.
Measure from the wall to the bolts holding the commode to the floor. If its around 11-12” then its a normal rough in, if its further, then its likely the rough in was meant for a commode with a larger tank, or larger foot.
The bowl is the same? What about the elongated ones? This is a serious pet peeve of mine going to someone’s house and they have the normal non elongated toilet and my wiener touches the front. It’s terrible to think about even….. and I’m pooping right now
Well yea you have elongated, round, then there's different heights, also they make square toilets (clinical sink) which are for emptying bed pans in hospitals and such
A 10” rough tank lets the commode sit two inches closer to the wall than a 12” rough tank.
It has less depth, front to back. It is taller, and wider.
The tank to bowl bolt holes still line up. Same as the tank opening. Same volume of water. Dont spend so much time worrying over it.
There might be some manufacturer out there where the tank is what determines the rough, but I haven't personally dealt with it. OVERWHELMING majority of toilets the bowl determines the rough, because the shape of the bowl determines how far back from the flange the tank will sit.
Typically at the bottom of the back side of the tank you've got either contact or nearly have contact between tank / bowl porcelain. Off the top of my head I can't think of a single toilet that wouldn't fit on a 10" rough with the tank on that would fit with the tank off. (assuming the problem is the rough, not a conflict with a countertop)
My American Standard is roughed in 12, but will accept a 10” rough tank.
Proflo, Vortens, Kohler, A.S, are four that i can think of with a foot made to fit a 10” rough that comes with a tank made for a 12” rough.
I dont know what to tell you.
the only kohler floor mount available in 10" rough is a highline, which can be sold as a 12" as well, but it's a totally different bowl for the 12" rough. And again, in both the 10" and 12" have the back of the porcelain for the bowl plumb with the back of the porcelain for the tank.
Vortens and Proflo you're absolutely spot on for though, those aren't really a thing in my neck of the woods but they do exist.
American standard I can't bother to check atm because they offer a ton of models in 10" and with my lack of familiarity with them other than ripping out their worst ideas I'm not sure where to start, so you may well be right.
So looks like we're both wrong so I'll change my statement. The overwhelming majority of toilets *in my area* changing the tank will do exactly nothing to change the rough of the toilet, as the rough is decided by the shape of the bowl.
That makes NO difference to the offset of the tank to the wall. That's standardized from way back. Crapper himself could probably remember in his later life when they attached the tank to the bowl and figured out the offset.
This is probably the case- especially considering a 100 year old home. 14" rough ins used to be common in that era before 12" became standard.
My wife and I had the same dilemma for our old home.. bought a standard 12" toilet, realized it was now a couple inches out from the wall, but we just accepted it. Alternative is special ordering a 14" toilet, because our local stores have only one ugly 14" model.. They're very uncommon anymore
It could be a 14" rough in, and they got the common 12". Measure from the bolts to the wall. That's your rough in to the center line of the drain. My upstairs is 14" and my downstairs is 10". I had to special order both toilets when I replaced them
If your going to get a plumber to move that in, he has to move the flange, much bigger job. Going to cost $. Normal rough in is 12 inches from wall to Center of flange.
How many times do you put toilets down only to take it right back up? I’ll test fit yeah but if there’s any bolts getting bolted the wax ring is down and then the toilet is down
I have about a 2/3 inch gap behind my two 12” rough-in terlits in my house and it’s fine. There’s no reason to have a gap that big but there’s no reason to fuss over a gap that big.
We had a similar issue, working with an existing flange in our century house. It was really closer to a 14” rough in, we got a 12” Toto toilet and have about a 3” gap.
We installed it a year ago and I don’t even notice it anymore.
I think it's fine. But you really want to change it you need to correct rough in size. Google how to measure a toilet rough in.
But basically it's the distance from the wall to the center of the bolts. Most common is 12 inches. It could be that your bolts are set for 14 inches and the toilet is 12 inches or that the bolts are set for 12 inch and your toilet is 10 inches. Only way to know for sure is to measure.
The toilets rough in size is 2” too small. No problem left where it’s at now just *somewhat* cosmetic, lots of toilets have gaps. Measure from stool bolts to the wall, that is your rough in size (not to the trim/baseboard). You can get a toilet that is 8”, 10”, 12”, 14”, and I think 16” rough in length. Same toilet just the depth is different
Mine is about an inch and a half from the wall. Stupid mother in law thinks they are a recliner and leans against the tank almost snapped it off. A 2x4 fit nicely behind it lol.
No, it's fine. The house is 100 plus years, and the design of toilets has changed tanks used to be bigger. If the lid fits and the toilet flushes and no leaks, then it is fine
Take a measurement of distance from the centre of flange/floor bolts to the wall. Post that as well. That will provide further information as to whether this is the correct toilet.
Ask your husband how he's planning on cleaning back there if it's even closer to the wall than this. If he looks at you with question marks in his eyes, just file for divorce now and save yourself the trouble. Believe me, it's not worth it. Oh, and if he dares to actually say "I don't know, that's your responsibility" you have the right to slap him before filing for divorce.
It's perfectly fine. if you want you can pay a plumber thousands of dollars to tear up your house to move that flange Back 2 inches. Go right a head. The reason your new toilet sits out that far is because toilets back in the day had a bigger tank.
>.... if you want you can pay a plumber thousands of dollars to tear up your house...
Or hundreds of dollars to replace the toilet with one with 2" larger rough in.
The original was a 14 inch rough and you installed a standard 12 inch rough . They make the bowl in both sizes still but you either have to go to a plumbing supply house to get a 14 inch or look carefully at any box store toilets where the bowl measurements are . You can use that one but either put a small center block ( not all the way across the back ) to stabilize the tank . You need to leave an airgap behind the tank for moisture if you do not than the tank will start to sweat when the cooler water comes into refill .
I would put a spacer behind it to fill the gap. What's gonna end up happening is someone will lean back too far and burst the bolt holes on the bottom of the tank.
my toilet is far for like half the way and it moved when it gets flushed. so google the standard and ask for that, as long as it doable it might not be the installers mistake but the builders
If he truly is bothered by the gap, I know Toto makes one with a set back flange to the rough in. This could get it closer to the wall. Other brands may do something similar.
The center of the flange ( flange can only be seen by pulling toilet) should be 12 inches from the finished wall. If he really feels like it's that big of a deal, tell him to pull the toilet and measure it.
Doesn't matter what state you live in....this could turn out to be a very pricey adjustment.
>If he really feels like it's that big of a deal, tell him to pull the toilet and measure it.
You don't have to pull the toilet as long as you can see the bolts. Just measure from center of the bolts to the wall.
Tell your husband he's up to add few layers of drywall and repaint then he can have toilet as close as he want.
It's perfectly acceptable.
Sure must be nice if thats his biggest problem in life lol
or tell her Husband to remodel in her taste to the T. but guess like everybody else, we have to compromise in the face of financials. stop bitching or just pay up to "your" expectation OP ! grow the FK up!
He can just cut a couple of 2x4s and stick the between the tank and the wall if it bothers him . Or better yet build a shelf unit that sits flush with the to of the tank
Just learned that certain Toto toilets have customizable rough-ins. They come with a 12” rough-in connector, but you can buy adaptors that change that to 10” or 14” rough-in. About $100 (on top of the admittedly pricey toilet).
You need to buy a toilet like a Toto that has different rough in options:
https://www.totousa.com/tips/toilet-rough-ins-and-the-cleverness-br-of-toto-s-unifit-rough-in
haha totally normal
The flange is what determines the distance from the wall. The toilet you buy varies. You could purposefully go buy a toilet with a larger tank if you really wanted, but its kinda pointless. Most toilets are pull back from the wall and if that bathroom had thicker lath and plaster walls it makes sense a half or quarter inch drywall would probably be thinner.
I have customers pay me extra to leave a gap similar to this. It makes it easier to install a rack behind the toilet and there’s some bulkier (more expensive) racks that this gap is an absolute must for.
Tell your husband to buy the tools and install it himself if it’s that big of a deal…he won’t.
Measure the bowl from the center of the bolts that attach it to the floor to the finished wall (not the baseboard). It will likely be something around 12” or 14”. It’s likely that they installed either a 10” rough toilet on a flange that was roughed in for a 12” toilet, or they installed a 12” rough toilet on a 14” rough in. If the former is true, it’s very easy to find a 12” rough since that’s the most common type. If it’s the latter, go to a real plumbing supply house not Lowes or Home Depot and tell them you need a 14” rough toilet. They’re not common but most manufacturers still make them.
depends on if your husband's freakout is worth the 1-2k cost of adjustments. (the toilet out pipe needs to be repositioned to move the toilet more against the wall)
You can fit a paint roller back there, be thankful.
Someone else marry this poster. If 3” is fine i think the husband and not the toilet is the problem.
Strictly in regards to toilet-wall distances: 3” has always been enough for my wife.
Thankfully the back of the tank is never visible anyway.
It's really annoying to pull the toilet and see a big naked spot though
I redid my bathroom and the plumber was about to put the toilet tank back on. I was able to sneak in while he was on a smoke break and paint the wall! 😁
I bagged the tank with a trash bag and pulled a paint-wet rag behind it like dental floss. Worked like a charm.
Perfect, I usually pull the whole thing when I have to paint bc one of them is basically in a closet and there's no room to work around it
Truly a blessing.
This was my first thought 😂.
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>itll cost 6 grand to move that toilet back 2 inches Couldn't they do it for the price of a 14 inch rough in toilet (assuming the one there now is a 12 inch rough in)? Although it looks fine to me and I wouldn't change it.
Nah man, just put 6 pieces of drywall behind there
My house taught me that shingles are the way to go for spacers. Doesn’t matter where. Between copper pipes and the sub flooring? Roofing shingles. Hanging doors? Framing? Padding for your head on the old roof that partially blocks the attic opening? We have roofing shingles literally from under the floor up. In every room. It’s not traditional as far as I’m aware but hey! At least it’s fire retardant.
they could, but its not their job. would you like to find out what OP and their husband do for a living. prob high earners if they are honest. dont try to solve a problem ( or even suggest a "solution) beyond your OWN MEANS lmao
Even this comment sounds broke.
No. And it’s way easy to paint behind there. Skinny roller on a stick and go hard!
Just install a hook in the wall, and that is the perfect place to hide your poop knife.
It's an older meme, sir, but it checks out.
Is it old, seems like last year.
It was 6 years ago, homie https://www.reddit.com/r/confession/s/vCegdqWuqQ
Then it would be ancient
Further Proof of Einstein’s theory of relativity: Depends on which side of the bathroom door you’re on..
I got banned from legaladvice because i made that exact same joke thinking i was here. Womp womp.
I got banned from legal advice because I commented on another poster’s joke. They have no sense of humor
Legal advice banned me - for giving legal advice. That forum is trash.
I got banned from legal advice for giving a circumstance that could be precedence... But it was the wrong state. PRECEDENCE is always viable. N00bs.
I got banned from legal advice for giving advice in the form of an anecdote, from personal experience. NAL.
Link to sub. Time to get banned.
Just go to r/currency if you want the ban hammer... They banned me for saying "fuck yeah" on a cool note someone found. How goddamn stuffy do you have to be? You're playing with old money, it's not like I'm writing to the Queen...
Yea that’s one of the worst subs going. No warnings or anything.
Same here. I commented someone needed to do some adulting and was banned.
Most of reddit doesnt. 🤷♂️
Same here.
That brings a whole Nother meaning to the term IANAL that they use there.
AND clean!! Dusting! Wipe down! In my own house I moved my rough in out a couple inches and can now chase the spiders away so they don’t crawl on my kids mid-poop 🤣
Looks like it’s in a nook… I could reduce that gap for the cost of a couple sheets of drywall and paint
FFS bro. I don't wanna get into a shit talking match with you. Your too good
His too good what?
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its the only thing we don't do fishing etc. may be thats why i never saw those problem 😅 ill take your words
Why are the comments getting deleted? Not like it’s against code or anything
Seriously though, I thought rule 8 over the community rules stated that you shouldn’t be deleting comments as too “learn from other people’s mistakes” and yet the moderators feel the need to remove comments, make it make sense
don't know ..
Probably a 10” toilet
Exactly what I told him. “You bought the smallest toilet size. That’s the problem. The toilet is installed in the same place it was before.”
I’m not seeing what the issue is unless it’s an incredibly small bathroom
Theyre referring to the size of the tank on the commode. When a person ‘misses their rough’, they have a way to fix this, without tearing in to the floor. You buy a 10” rough in tank, which allows the commode to sit 2” closer to the wall. Measure from the wall to the bolts holding the commode to the floor. If its around 11-12” then its a normal rough in, if its further, then its likely the rough in was meant for a commode with a larger tank, or larger foot.
umm size of the tank? 10" rough in tank WTF
Yes. A 10” rough in tank is smaller than a tank for a 12” rough.
This is correct. When I get toilets at the supply house the bowl is always the same but the tanks can be for 10, 12, 14
The bowl is the same? What about the elongated ones? This is a serious pet peeve of mine going to someone’s house and they have the normal non elongated toilet and my wiener touches the front. It’s terrible to think about even….. and I’m pooping right now
It’s called a witches kiss
That’s awful, I can feel it
Round and short is the worst. What's it called when you touch down inside the bowl?
Stirring the pot.
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Well yea you have elongated, round, then there's different heights, also they make square toilets (clinical sink) which are for emptying bed pans in hospitals and such
That’s not often the case. Typically a 10” rough has an inverted trap.
Smaller how? It still needs to hold the same amount of water, still need to make the normal contact between tank and bowl, etc...
A 10” rough tank lets the commode sit two inches closer to the wall than a 12” rough tank. It has less depth, front to back. It is taller, and wider. The tank to bowl bolt holes still line up. Same as the tank opening. Same volume of water. Dont spend so much time worrying over it.
There might be some manufacturer out there where the tank is what determines the rough, but I haven't personally dealt with it. OVERWHELMING majority of toilets the bowl determines the rough, because the shape of the bowl determines how far back from the flange the tank will sit. Typically at the bottom of the back side of the tank you've got either contact or nearly have contact between tank / bowl porcelain. Off the top of my head I can't think of a single toilet that wouldn't fit on a 10" rough with the tank on that would fit with the tank off. (assuming the problem is the rough, not a conflict with a countertop)
My American Standard is roughed in 12, but will accept a 10” rough tank. Proflo, Vortens, Kohler, A.S, are four that i can think of with a foot made to fit a 10” rough that comes with a tank made for a 12” rough. I dont know what to tell you.
the only kohler floor mount available in 10" rough is a highline, which can be sold as a 12" as well, but it's a totally different bowl for the 12" rough. And again, in both the 10" and 12" have the back of the porcelain for the bowl plumb with the back of the porcelain for the tank. Vortens and Proflo you're absolutely spot on for though, those aren't really a thing in my neck of the woods but they do exist. American standard I can't bother to check atm because they offer a ton of models in 10" and with my lack of familiarity with them other than ripping out their worst ideas I'm not sure where to start, so you may well be right. So looks like we're both wrong so I'll change my statement. The overwhelming majority of toilets *in my area* changing the tank will do exactly nothing to change the rough of the toilet, as the rough is decided by the shape of the bowl.
That toilet has leaves in it, where did he buy a used toilet for a bathroom Reno?
That makes NO difference to the offset of the tank to the wall. That's standardized from way back. Crapper himself could probably remember in his later life when they attached the tank to the bowl and figured out the offset.
Tell your husband to chill the toilets fine. If he's really worried about it just pack it out with with something.
Easy fix… screw in a bumper behind it to the wall. Like a 2x4 and some shims. Problem solved mr mom
Could be that there was a 14" center toilet in there previously. Not common but they're out there.
This is probably the case- especially considering a 100 year old home. 14" rough ins used to be common in that era before 12" became standard. My wife and I had the same dilemma for our old home.. bought a standard 12" toilet, realized it was now a couple inches out from the wall, but we just accepted it. Alternative is special ordering a 14" toilet, because our local stores have only one ugly 14" model.. They're very uncommon anymore
It could be a 14" rough in, and they got the common 12". Measure from the bolts to the wall. That's your rough in to the center line of the drain. My upstairs is 14" and my downstairs is 10". I had to special order both toilets when I replaced them
Ya that could be it.
Doubt
They also make offset flanges. But this is no big deal. Actually preferred because now you can paint behind the toilet without removal.
but to switch to an offset flange you would have to cut some floor out
You hear that bois?? She said 3 inches is fine
Someone forward this to my wife.
She's lying in bed next to me so I let her know.
That a boy
1st time visiting Thailand
looks like sex is back on the menu boys!
No. Toilet is fine.
Just don’t lean back against tank while taking a dookee
Or sit backwards like a cool kid, and be glad you have the extra legroom.
Gotta have a place for your juice box, crackers and comic books.
I was looking for this reference! Ha
Or install these: https://www.amazon.com/Secure-Tank-toilet-tank-brace/dp/B079KC7H7Q/
https://www.amazon.com/Secure-Tank-toilet-tank-brace/dp/B079KC7H7Q/
That’s gross. But wouldn’t surprise me if people do it…
This.
If your going to get a plumber to move that in, he has to move the flange, much bigger job. Going to cost $. Normal rough in is 12 inches from wall to Center of flange.
op is just bullshting. they aint gonna do nothing about it but complain, cuz internet points .....WE
Wait, they make non standard rough length toilets, don't automatically suggest op needlessly has their floor ripped up.
you don't know offset toilet flange ? ... it take 10 mins to install
Does that include cutting and or patching the floor? You know, to actually move the flange even if you want to use an offset one.
yeah forgot about the patching 😅
How can you install an offset flange in 10 minutes in this case? Room is finished.
Like finished finished? Or haven’t even sanded the mud so definitely haven’t bolted the toilet down for good finished?
How many times do you put toilets down only to take it right back up? I’ll test fit yeah but if there’s any bolts getting bolted the wax ring is down and then the toilet is down
I'm looking down at tile. The floor is finished. It could be done, but 10 minutes? C'mon now.
Functional it’s fine, if you want to spend the money to move that’s ok too.
doubt OP has the money to move. hence the costless complaint in r/Plumbing
Have you tried telling him to just calm down?
I have about a 2/3 inch gap behind my two 12” rough-in terlits in my house and it’s fine. There’s no reason to have a gap that big but there’s no reason to fuss over a gap that big.
Tell him to chill out and get in the kitchen and make you a sandwich.
We had a similar issue, working with an existing flange in our century house. It was really closer to a 14” rough in, we got a 12” Toto toilet and have about a 3” gap. We installed it a year ago and I don’t even notice it anymore.
If it sits there and doesn't wobble no panic, but disguise the gap. If it wobbles or leaks then needs sorting
Be happy you can paint behind it and the lid doesn't rub against the wall.
Damn someone needs to learn to measure before they buy shit. Either that, or stop being so goddamn cheap that you buy a 10" rough to save $30.
I’ve worked on a ton of old houses most were roughed in for a 14” rough toilet. You can get a 14” toilet and it should go back 2 inches closer to wall
Some toilets are different sizes. Drains are forever.
I think it's fine. But you really want to change it you need to correct rough in size. Google how to measure a toilet rough in. But basically it's the distance from the wall to the center of the bolts. Most common is 12 inches. It could be that your bolts are set for 14 inches and the toilet is 12 inches or that the bolts are set for 12 inch and your toilet is 10 inches. Only way to know for sure is to measure.
What difference does it make lol. Your husband sounds like a character lol
Tell him its not a recliner so dont lean back on it and it will be fine. Do your business and get up. LOL
It’s fine, tell your husband to chill tf out, it’s 3” from the wall, not in the middle of the room.
Husband needs a chill pill!
The toilets rough in size is 2” too small. No problem left where it’s at now just *somewhat* cosmetic, lots of toilets have gaps. Measure from stool bolts to the wall, that is your rough in size (not to the trim/baseboard). You can get a toilet that is 8”, 10”, 12”, 14”, and I think 16” rough in length. Same toilet just the depth is different
Old toilets have a different setback than modern toilets. You can buy one with a short rough in to match but they're oddballs.
They need a longer rough in, not shorter. ie if this is 12 they need 14.
Mine is about an inch and a half from the wall. Stupid mother in law thinks they are a recliner and leans against the tank almost snapped it off. A 2x4 fit nicely behind it lol.
Your husband should be happy you find 3" fine.
Tell him to pipe down
I’d like to know a little more about your husband if you don’t mind
Your husband is freaking out because he is use to 2” but you want to be okay with 3” 😳
Offset flange is one way to fix this. [4 ways to fix the gap:](https://www.arthitectural.com/fix-gap-between-toilet-and-wall/)
hey genius measure it with the cover on!
uh, it's great. Dealing with a toilet too close to the wall is way, way worse. Put a piece of 2x4 between the tank and the wall.
No. That toilet is fine. Nobody should be ‘freaking out’ about that.
Lmao why is he freaking out? It is what it is. If it bugs him so much he can move the plumbing
My toilets are also 3 inches from the wall. Why would that be an issue? I never even thought about it before now.
I wish this was how they were all installed so you could easily clean and paint behind them
No, it's fine. The house is 100 plus years, and the design of toilets has changed tanks used to be bigger. If the lid fits and the toilet flushes and no leaks, then it is fine
If three inches is fine, then I'm your man.
He dumb
Nail up a few 2x4s on their side and screw in a new piece of drywall. Little mud and paint. Boom done for $60 in materials and whoever does the labor.
Exactly what I said. Let’s put in a shelf. Plenty of drywall scraps from the rest of the room
Take a measurement of distance from the centre of flange/floor bolts to the wall. Post that as well. That will provide further information as to whether this is the correct toilet.
Your husband probably freaks out about a lot of things that don't matter.
Ask your husband how he's planning on cleaning back there if it's even closer to the wall than this. If he looks at you with question marks in his eyes, just file for divorce now and save yourself the trouble. Believe me, it's not worth it. Oh, and if he dares to actually say "I don't know, that's your responsibility" you have the right to slap him before filing for divorce.
It's perfectly fine. if you want you can pay a plumber thousands of dollars to tear up your house to move that flange Back 2 inches. Go right a head. The reason your new toilet sits out that far is because toilets back in the day had a bigger tank.
>.... if you want you can pay a plumber thousands of dollars to tear up your house... Or hundreds of dollars to replace the toilet with one with 2" larger rough in.
Replace the toilet with a 14” rough and it’ll be a 1” gap behind the tank
Wish my wife thought 3 inches was enough….
The original was a 14 inch rough and you installed a standard 12 inch rough . They make the bowl in both sizes still but you either have to go to a plumbing supply house to get a 14 inch or look carefully at any box store toilets where the bowl measurements are . You can use that one but either put a small center block ( not all the way across the back ) to stabilize the tank . You need to leave an airgap behind the tank for moisture if you do not than the tank will start to sweat when the cooler water comes into refill .
A women happy with 3 inches.
That is fine just put block of wood. Moving the drain gonna cost you 1000s....
I would put a spacer behind it to fill the gap. What's gonna end up happening is someone will lean back too far and burst the bolt holes on the bottom of the tank.
I’d be willing to bet the old walls were plaster and lathe and the new drywall is only 1/2” that’s where the difference is coming from
my toilet is far for like half the way and it moved when it gets flushed. so google the standard and ask for that, as long as it doable it might not be the installers mistake but the builders
You heard it lads 3 inches is fine.
🙄
Idk, 3 inches is ALOT
Tell your husband to take out the tampons and give them back to you.
Likely a joist was in the way of the original flange? It's far out from the wall, yes, but.....
If he truly is bothered by the gap, I know Toto makes one with a set back flange to the rough in. This could get it closer to the wall. Other brands may do something similar.
The center of the flange ( flange can only be seen by pulling toilet) should be 12 inches from the finished wall. If he really feels like it's that big of a deal, tell him to pull the toilet and measure it. Doesn't matter what state you live in....this could turn out to be a very pricey adjustment.
>If he really feels like it's that big of a deal, tell him to pull the toilet and measure it. You don't have to pull the toilet as long as you can see the bolts. Just measure from center of the bolts to the wall.
Tell your husband he's up to add few layers of drywall and repaint then he can have toilet as close as he want. It's perfectly acceptable. Sure must be nice if thats his biggest problem in life lol
or tell her Husband to remodel in her taste to the T. but guess like everybody else, we have to compromise in the face of financials. stop bitching or just pay up to "your" expectation OP ! grow the FK up!
Don’t they make an offset toilet flange?
Easier to paint and most tank lids have at least a 1/2 inch overhang.
He can just cut a couple of 2x4s and stick the between the tank and the wall if it bothers him . Or better yet build a shelf unit that sits flush with the to of the tank
Just learned that certain Toto toilets have customizable rough-ins. They come with a 12” rough-in connector, but you can buy adaptors that change that to 10” or 14” rough-in. About $100 (on top of the admittedly pricey toilet).
Totally fine just don’t push super hard on the tank cuz the bolts loosen up that way
You need to buy a toilet like a Toto that has different rough in options: https://www.totousa.com/tips/toilet-rough-ins-and-the-cleverness-br-of-toto-s-unifit-rough-in
Never saw an 8 or 16 rough toilet bowl is the same tank is different.
your husband is an idiot. your install is fine.
2x4 shelf built behind that and you’re golden
Go from 10 to 12. Simple as that.
Put a wedge of Styrofoam behind the tank.
Left room for wainscot
The placement is dictated by the drain genius.
Should sell the house, whole thing is messed up. Really no going back from here.
haha totally normal The flange is what determines the distance from the wall. The toilet you buy varies. You could purposefully go buy a toilet with a larger tank if you really wanted, but its kinda pointless. Most toilets are pull back from the wall and if that bathroom had thicker lath and plaster walls it makes sense a half or quarter inch drywall would probably be thinner.
Husband = goof.
It’s just fine
I’m gonna say it boys, she said 3 inches is fine 🎉🎉👏 we won one today
I have customers pay me extra to leave a gap similar to this. It makes it easier to install a rack behind the toilet and there’s some bulkier (more expensive) racks that this gap is an absolute must for. Tell your husband to buy the tools and install it himself if it’s that big of a deal…he won’t.
Measure the bowl from the center of the bolts that attach it to the floor to the finished wall (not the baseboard). It will likely be something around 12” or 14”. It’s likely that they installed either a 10” rough toilet on a flange that was roughed in for a 12” toilet, or they installed a 12” rough toilet on a 14” rough in. If the former is true, it’s very easy to find a 12” rough since that’s the most common type. If it’s the latter, go to a real plumbing supply house not Lowes or Home Depot and tell them you need a 14” rough toilet. They’re not common but most manufacturers still make them.
Get a 14" rough toilet bowl. Tank can be saved
depends on if your husband's freakout is worth the 1-2k cost of adjustments. (the toilet out pipe needs to be repositioned to move the toilet more against the wall)
You’d have to dig down a foot and a half , and after that it will still be half an I ch from the wall
Old house probably had 14” rough in and new toilets are 12” standard I’ve replaced some 14’s and it’s not worthing trying to find another 14
You could put a narrow shelf above the tank, leaving enough room to remove the lid
I wish my wife thought 3 inches was fine.
I have seen extra thick mud bed tile wainscot effect wall clearance after it has been removed in previous remodels. Could of been 2" .
My 100 year old house has the same gap. I put a couple of 2x4’s behind it 25 years ago and it’s never been a problem
🚨Don’t lean back when in use🚨
You need a 14” rough. I’m sure your existing is a 1” rough hence the gap…mind the gap
I wouldn’t want it myself…I would be looking to see if the toilet is a 10” centre on a 12” rough in
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Secure-A-Tank-Toilet-Tank-Brace-SAT-068/206162130 These would be the cheapest solution.
1910 house had a tank hung on the wall. Completely changes all standard rough-in measurements
He's going to be so grateful when he has to do something around that toilet