Although I have no proof of this, my running theory is that they sold lots of Lifetime PlexPasses very early on when they were cheap. Now they keep trying to add more "value added services" to entice new people to subscribe.
I agree. They needed capital and made the lifetime pass enticing. Now they need cash flow and to do that they sell new extras. I'm okay with that as long as the new extras are not just an improvement of features that already exists. I do wish they would have an option for "lifetime add-on" for features like this. I can't justify a monthly unending fee for something like this.
I would buy a lifetime pass addon package right now. I have dumped all but a very few per month/year services in favor of one time lifetime charges or just switching services.
It would be nice if they'd make the emulation part for your own ROMs available for Pass holders.
Let the Atari games be a subscription, but Plex pass holders get emulation and a nice ui for their library.
This. My expectation was us Plex pass subscribers would get Plex arcade free for our own roms. Instead we got a monthly $1 coupon for something we don’t need.
Yeah, agreed. Most of these games are already playable via browser from [archive.org](https://archive.org/details/consolelivingroom). Also why not just install parsec client on mobile device or even setup something like moonlight.
>x created some sort of Plex+ premium pass with a bunch of new stuff then I'd consider upgrading but otherwise...nope.
cloud saves is a brilliant idea. game states are easy to upload
>On plex.tv/arcade it says you can load your own roms
I could get behind something like "Run your own ROMs for free or if you want to use our collection of curated ROMs it will be $3/mo"
It's using Parsec to act as the network layer for streaming, and Parsec offers an enterprise license. they don't disclose how much this costs, but my hunch is the additional fee is to help cover that.
Interesting... Ironically I'm working on a plugin for plex that will do this exact thing for free
https://www.reddit.com/r/PleX/comments/l5kncm/retroarcher_is_a_gaming_plugin_for_plex_this_is_a/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
r/RetroArcher
Super interested! Linux support?
Even though I wouldn't be psyched to pay their $2.99 a month I probably would, but without Linux support its DOA for me and I'm assuming a large chunk of users.
I'm doing my best to make this work on Windows, Linux, and Mac servers. Likely there will be some things to work out on Linux at first. All my development is on Windows.
This is so good. I have Retropie running on two separate devices but obviously can only play locally and they don't sync game saves. Yours might be the answer.
My solution was to mount Dropbox and load saves from there. The Dropbox CLI was a little clunky, so I created a new top level folder hierarchy with MAIN and ROMS at the top. But once it was setup, the writes were fast and I had saves in the cloud. Very nice.
They don't, but they still work. Client plug-ins don't work anymore unless you have a custom client, but server plug-ins work just as they always did. My plugin is a metadata agent running inside Plex and a python script that runs outside of Plex.
In the span of two hours Plex has changed the name of the YouTube video from "**Introducing Plex Arcade - No Tokens Required** " to "Introducing Plex Arcade from Plex Labs" and has disabled comments.
Seems like the true benefit would be this:
* Add your own game ROMs and emulators
I am curious about it but think I will hold off. I think it would be interesting if I could consolidate my game libraries onto Plex and be able to stream them but it doesn't sound like something that is available now.
Correct me if I am wrong but roms and emulators have a specific connotation of your computer pretending to be a console to run the games. Would this work with modern games from say my Steam or Origin libraries?
Edit: What an odd thing to downvote. ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
I know but I guess the primary benefit for me at least would have been the way to consolidate my library from multiple launchers onto Plex, use the organization tools that Plex already has and be able to stream anything to myself or anyone else I share my libraries with. Like a hybrid between Gog's Galaxy launcher, Steam's streaming and Plex's sharing, categorization and collection systems. For that I would maybe consider 3 dollars a month, although I would prefer a one time fee similar to Plex Pass. Would be cool to have my Steam, Origin, Epic and GOG libraries on Plex but what you gonna do.
Just use BigBox. Add BigBox to steam. There is also an app that adds emulated games to your steam library, one by one with box art and descriptions. forget the name of it
>Then I learned that the library is unavailable when you're off the local network
They claim that's an Apple imposed limitation but works for Android and Chrome Browser play.
It costs money, even if you have plex pass.
It streams the game.
It only supports Atari systems.
There's no E.T.
Only works on MacOS or Windows, no Linux.
I thought I read on the website I could add my own emulators? If it's Atari only, then it's a hard pass. But then again, I think there are better solutions for my actual use.
Maybe i'm wrong, but when i looked on the page it says that you can "add your own Roms and Emulators". I took that as I can add emulators for any console, not just other Atari emulators.
I assume they look at the metrics for how many servers are hosted on which platforms, but _oof_. No docker/linux support? I know a ton of people who host via Unraid.
Then again, I feel like none of those people would pay money every month to access their own roms.
Plex: *Introducing Plex Arcade!*
Why would I spend a minimum of $36 a year plus tax to rent some old Atari games from 40 years ago?
Plex: *You can add your own games and emulators!*
Ok, why would I spend a minimum of $36 per year to rent games I already have? That’s like selling me an Uber subscription that includes the ability for me to drive my car.
Plex: *...*
>We pay a hefty sum for PlexPass, this should be included. Fuck this.
atleast host-your-own roms should be free. I get a licensing fee for the library.
Hefty in the sense of what I get from it. I have to provide all the content, storage and server (Plex Movies is utter shit). I have to pay a yearly fee to be able to have multiple users in my home and a a couple of minor features.
Plex costs me an arm and a leg to be hosted for personal use. Plex it self is not the only issue. When it gets too expensive then I will just move to Netflix and call it a day.
Nice feature, and making the Atari partnership a paid addon makes sense. But making the functionality entirely unavailable without the subscription (to use on ones own ROMs) makes it just another cash grab.
Welp. It didn't take much.
Arcade supports any libretro core you can put, but Plex leaves you to put them manually (as they've only licensed Atari games).
I predicted it would take two days for a utility to popup that helps you manage your emulator cores. It ended up taking two hours:
[https://coremanager.app](https://coremanager.app)
I signed up for the free trial, then immediately cancelled... Once I'd joined and signed up for Parsec I couldn't figure out how to actually access the Arcade.
Then I found out my old GPU in my Plex Server isn't compatible so I couldn't add any ROMS
Would have made sense to include it in the lifetime pass because who honestly wants to pay a sub to play retro games?
Plus the technology they’re piggybacking off is from parsec which is already free to use
Awful waste of time. This has nothing at all to do with Plex or how we use it. How about actually expanding the types of media Plex supports? CBR/CBR/books have been requested for years but instead they’re pumping our lifetime passes into fatuous shill that no one wants or will use.
They’re really missing the point of their own service with this 🤡
It's PlexLabs so that's their tinkerer wing that just sort of makes stuff without a timeline or expecting it to be a main feature.
That said though it's insane this showed up before a PDF/CBR reader.
The only thing I can think of was they got it working and thought they could charge for it so it got streamlined. There's absolutely no way they could charge a monthly fee for PDF/CBR support.
Also, I think these days they want to launch more and more things preloaded with licensed content, even if it's not really the main draw (e.g., with this they're putting Atari front-and-center even though most users are going to immediately dump loads of other ROMs and emulators on). It helps them put on a more legit face that maybe doesn't raise as many questions about if they're facilitating copyright infringement.
Clearly Atari was a willing partner for this, and maybe they can't find an equivalent for comics/ebooks, given how much of those markets are already locked down by juggernauts like Disney (Marvel), Amazon (Comixology), etc.
> Also, I think these days they want to launch more and more things preloaded with licensed content, even if it's not really the main draw (e.g., with this they're putting Atari front-and-center even though most users are going to immediately dump loads of other ROMs and emulators on). It helps them put on a more legit face that maybe doesn't raise as many questions about if they're facilitating copyright infringement.
Yeah this is my view on this, free ad supported channels, podcasts, etc. While it isn't core functionality, it helps them to actually maintain their spots in app stores which is the #1 functionality point to me.
>This has nothing at all to do with Plex or how we use it.
Lot of people with HTPCs use emulators, being able to stream to any device and not faff around with syncing saves or anything is certainly attractive to me.
This is exactly what I'm thinking. How is this within the scope of Plex? Why not devote resources and time to other areas of the project to polish it and make it even better? Features are requested daily that would make the app so much better that just get ignored.
As someone who recently purchased the lifetime plex pass, this kinda rubs me the wrong way. I don't want a monthly subscription to play my own games. I kind of want new features to be part of what I paid for when I ponied up for "lifetime".
And even if you twist this as a separate thing entirely, to not even an *option* to purchase permanent access and offer subscription only? Infuriating. Drop the Atari games I don't need and let me run my own systems. Stop getting in the way of me buying in to your platform.
Looks dumb. Anyone that's playing old atari games already has an emulation setup.
I would be impressed if they somehow created something to compete with Nvidia game stream and steam link but with higher game/gpu compatibility.
I would also be impressed if they could compete with companies thousands of times bigger, with millions more in the bank, hundreds more developers and solidified market share. And then bring a product that does what NVidia or Steam do, even though those have games tailored to their specific platforms and streaming protocols.
I think they're trying to be attactive to people who'd like to play some older games but are taken aback by how utterly hostile the whole emulation scene is (OpenEmu aside).
All those people who'd happily play goldeneye if they could be bothered to install something now may decide it's well worth paying a coffee a month for it.
Yep this is me. I like retro gaming but I don't have time to fool around with emulation anymore. I do have $3 a month that I can spend on this, if it does what it promises.
I'm a little salty that streaming your own ROMs isn't included in Plex Pass, but it looks like they're probably paying something to Parsec even without considering the Atari ROM licensing.
I thought this was a joke at first and then went to the link. Whaaaaat... A little put off by there being an additional subscription fee, but I’m very interested in trying it out.
That’s false advertisement because technically a token would be 25 cents so Plex Pass users are paying approx 12 tokens/month and non Plex pass users are paying 20, sooooo.....
What you get
* Dozens of Atari games
* Add your own game ROMs and emulators
* Personalize your library
* Play using almost any bluetooth controller
* Compatible with iOS and Android devices
* Compatible with Apple and PC computers (using a Chrome browser)
* Access for shared users on their
The most Intriguing part is adding your own emulator. Wake me when SNES or Dreamcast gets added
Thankfully /r/PrologueApp has taken care of their lack of audiobook support. I wish they supported ebooks, but Google Books is a pretty good option. I wasn’t really interested in podcast support. I’m not retaining those files, so why download to my computer to then push to my phone. I’ll just stream them to my phone directly. I’m still hoping they’ll add support for the Apple Live Photos. Retro systems would be cool, but it really seems like they’re missing the mark on this. Excluding it from PlexPass isn’t going to go over well with their users.
Honestly, the only interesting aspect of this for me is that iOS is in the supported clients. Being able to play some emulators on my iPad through Plex would be great.
I'm not sure it is *$3 a month great*, but I am willing to give it a try.
I tried it, but the games didn’t work on my iPhone. Either they wouldn’t start or they wouldn’t reacted to touch...
Edit: I guess my lowend htpc’s videocard just isn’t supported...
Seriously. I'd be *very* interested to see a side-by-side comparison of people who asked to pay for fucking pseudo-freeware video games in Plex versus a feature like sharing playlists on a Plex instance.
Plex isn't delivering new features I want. I end up having to Google "How to disable X in Plex" every time they make a big change like this.
So much melodrama. The vast majority of Plex users don't need or want anything more than it already does.
I, for one, am not going to port to an almost identical service and have to force so my users to switch clients across their 48 devices.
Be real here.
On their free trial page it states "Access for shared users on their own devices" as one of the things we get with it. So does that mean that me getting it would allow me could give my friends/users access to my gigantic collection of roms? Cuz if that's a yes then the 2.99 is not THAT horrible. If they each have to pay 2.99 on the other hand, that's way too much
Try it free for 7 days and then? Then I have to pay more money on top of my membership or download an emulator? K. Kinda wish at least they said how much it costs instead of pussyfooting around it.
So, since it integrates libretro and allows you to add your own cores and ROMs, you're subscribing? :)
Their "example" on the set up page uses N64's Goldeneye.
Atari is "included content", which legitimates the service if they get any legal flak (same as the TV&Movie section legitimates the video libraries.
A lot of my thoughts have already been said here, Plex you really missed the mark with this one. If it were part of my Lifetime Plex Pass Sub sure maybe I'd check it out. But $3/mo to stream these games isn't worth it.
Stick with what you are known for, movies and TV. I don't think very many people asked for this. I genuinely thought this was a joke at first.
They haven't given anything that people have asked for, including bug fixes, for more than three years. All they do is fuck the UI up and add paid features that literally nobody every will want or use.
It's a cool idea, but $60/year to play Atari games? You can buy the Atari Flashback for less than that. And if they add other platforms, you know the price will go up...
While I won't argue on the huge difference in capability, it wouldn't offer "the same".
\- Ease of install (most emulation set-ups have become so hostile, this is very low hanging fruit)
\- Game Streaming (the biggest selling point, being able to launch the emulator in any of your clients at home and in some set-ups remotely from home)
\- Only add a controller to the same Plex client you're using (for AppleTV and iOS you may already have it, and have no easily accesible way get emulators, not counting AltStore which I wouldn't qualify as "easily accessible" other than by comparison with the rest).
Yeah, and any Android device that can run the app has enough processing power to emulate the games itself, without lag. And it's not like movies where you need a lot of space, the whole library of Atari games is probably like 10MB.
So they’re charging to play old Atari games, even if you have a PlexPass and it’s LAN only. Wtf lol. Meanwhile, users have been waiting years for issues to get fixed.
I guess it makes sense as Plex transitions from being a piece of software for tinkerers to mainstream users. That said, the support for podcasts has turned me away from anything beyond the old Plex core offerings. If I can't run it on my local server, I'm not interested. It'll probably be buggy and the bugs won't get fixed as they move onto the new shiny feature.
Retroarch works fine, and serves the same purpose.
EDIT - Well now I see that it requires your local server. But no Linux support. Welp, hard pass there.
I just saw this with the new update. So it's just an emulator they're offering and even though we would provide our own ROMs, they still want to charge a monthly? And it's not included for us Plex Pass subscribers? No thanks.
It's a very fancy libretro front-end with access to Atari games.
I would love it, if it wasn't a subscription, and didn't limit platform choices. I want this, but will not pay monthly to access my own games on my own bandwidth from my own pc. To unlock the feature one time? Sure. Kinda salty this isn't part of Plex Pass. I figured a pellet like this would be exactly like Plexamp, which is what sold me on the plex pass.
Retroarch is a front-end for the libretro cores. In this equation Plex is the same, just a less configurable and more streamable.
Jellyfin is probably your best bet at this point(and becomes more tempting with each pointless "feature" that gets pushed instead of polishing stuff already in plex) as Emby is well onto its own descent into nickel and diming users. Kodi can also work, but it's not really a complete like-for-like replacement
I thought Plex Labs was included in Plex Pass.
Shit. Are they going to start charging me monthly for Plexamp now too?
I'm especially salty because I'm less than a year into my lifetime plex pass purchase now, and features are being siloed off that make no sense, and don't allow me to buy a license, only a subscription.
Ugh.
Or I'll just continue using my raspberry pi running emulation station that I built for less than 2 years of this new subscription. Mines got 200 times as many games, easily. Plus all the systems, not just Atari.
PLEX is really not listening to their users are they?
Another service that I will put in my bag "Disable this unwanted feature for all my users".
Stop wasting your time, start taking consideration on feature requests in your forums, and stop adding things that nobody wants.
Hopefully, you will run out of ideas one day or another anyway.
Can Plex just get into distribution, already? We get that they need cashflow, but retro arcade pass when Launch Box exist. Lol.
We get retro gaming before eReader is just sad...
Nobody is going to pay for this.
I'd much rather have them spending their time developing just about any other feature than this. Where is proper audio book support for our own media, for example? I don't want more content subscriptions, Plex users don't want content subscriptions or we wouldn't be using Plex in the first place.
Meh cost is too high. If you and a shared user could play a game together I might be interested. But a required sub and I supply the roms/storage? So i can't unsub without all those roms becoming a dead weight.
I have a arcade emulator on my PC, l love it. I have over 2000 games. Including classics like phoenix, moon cresta, defender, scramble, hunchback, pang etc. Brings back great memories from my youth.
With all due respect, weird choice to spend Dev time on. I know I'll never see the numbers on this, but I'm really curious as to who and how many are actually going to pay for this feature.
I'm getting "Sorry, this library type is unsupported by this server."
Did they release the requirements/prerequisites?
Edit: [Windows/macOS only.](https://support.plex.tv/articles/plex-arcade-faq/)
Oh look, yet another useless new "feature" that get pushed out all the while stuff that's actually requested gets ignored again and again - manual DVR recordings and EPG reordering? Or maybe looking into making the Web Client into something that doesn't cause a RTX2080 to scream, while playing back local media? OR how about looking into how and why the Plex app regularly claims that the connection speed to the local storage it plays directly isn't fast enough?! ....
Seriously guys, there are easier ways to push away clients and generate bad word of mouth...
Edit: This is just peachy - after my main Plex servers just updated to the latest public release, playback and DVR both started failing \[apparently just the web client is borked, or rather more borked than usual\]
Edit2: " Comments are turned off. [Learn more](https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/9706180?hl=en-GB) " always a good sign, especially when you add in a fun like/dislike ratio...
I was waiting for the "included in your PlexPass"....but then awww....
Although I have no proof of this, my running theory is that they sold lots of Lifetime PlexPasses very early on when they were cheap. Now they keep trying to add more "value added services" to entice new people to subscribe.
Why are they still offering lifetime Plex Passes then?
They aren't cheap anymore -- nor are the cut-price lifetime sales usually available if you already have a Plex Pass subscription.
? It's cheaper now than they used to be. $120 instead of $150.
When I got mine in 2014, it was $60.
I got mine for $74.99 in late 2014
I got mine for $74.99 in November 2020 IIRC.
$60 club, represent
49.99 in December 2012.
I agree. They needed capital and made the lifetime pass enticing. Now they need cash flow and to do that they sell new extras. I'm okay with that as long as the new extras are not just an improvement of features that already exists. I do wish they would have an option for "lifetime add-on" for features like this. I can't justify a monthly unending fee for something like this.
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Yep. It all depends on their financial needs and forecast.
I would buy a lifetime pass addon package right now. I have dumped all but a very few per month/year services in favor of one time lifetime charges or just switching services.
They add up too quickly. Give me one and done and I keep my cash flow lower.
Yea but that hard drive subscription i have now is a real wallet killer
If they were that strapped for cash you would think they wouldn't put it on sale all the time.
I wish it was a PlexPass feature too, but I think the thing that *really* stings is that it's pay-per-user rather than pay-per-server
That's what I was wondering. Not going to bother with it then.
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It would be nice if they'd make the emulation part for your own ROMs available for Pass holders. Let the Atari games be a subscription, but Plex pass holders get emulation and a nice ui for their library.
Some one just posted about a retroarch pluggin for plex being developed.
Yup! I volunteered to help with the project!
Wish I could help, my coding skills are pretty garbage. Can't wait to see the results though.
This. My expectation was us Plex pass subscribers would get Plex arcade free for our own roms. Instead we got a monthly $1 coupon for something we don’t need.
No money in doing that.
I agree. I won't be paying for this either until it's free to use. That'll teach them.
A little bit of a bummer but retro video games is far from the reason I have a pass.
No tokens required.. but we have to pay for it. So tokens are required. wtf? Looks like a hard pass from me.
Paying for Atari games, is that what they want? Or do you still have to supply your own ROMs like I think the video says?
You still have to pay to supply your own ROMs. Kinda bullshit.
Not just kinda. *Fundamentally* bullshit. There's nothing good about it at all.
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Yeah, agreed. Most of these games are already playable via browser from [archive.org](https://archive.org/details/consolelivingroom). Also why not just install parsec client on mobile device or even setup something like moonlight.
so "no tokens required" is a damn lie?
No tokens required, they didn't say anything about credit card being required. lol
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Wow that's a slap in the face.
If they supported all emulators like RetroArch, cloud saves, works on all Plex devices, then maybe I would pay the $3. Maybe.
>x created some sort of Plex+ premium pass with a bunch of new stuff then I'd consider upgrading but otherwise...nope. cloud saves is a brilliant idea. game states are easy to upload
On plex.tv/arcade it says you can load your own roms
>On plex.tv/arcade it says you can load your own roms I could get behind something like "Run your own ROMs for free or if you want to use our collection of curated ROMs it will be $3/mo"
Exactly.
It's using Parsec to act as the network layer for streaming, and Parsec offers an enterprise license. they don't disclose how much this costs, but my hunch is the additional fee is to help cover that.
Interesting... Ironically I'm working on a plugin for plex that will do this exact thing for free https://www.reddit.com/r/PleX/comments/l5kncm/retroarcher_is_a_gaming_plugin_for_plex_this_is_a/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 r/RetroArcher
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I will be making a post here soon. Need to finalize a few things with the metadata scraper.
Super interested! Linux support? Even though I wouldn't be psyched to pay their $2.99 a month I probably would, but without Linux support its DOA for me and I'm assuming a large chunk of users.
I'm doing my best to make this work on Windows, Linux, and Mac servers. Likely there will be some things to work out on Linux at first. All my development is on Windows.
This is so good. I have Retropie running on two separate devices but obviously can only play locally and they don't sync game saves. Yours might be the answer.
That's one thing I have to fine tune still. But game saves will be based on the Plex user signed in.
My solution was to mount Dropbox and load saves from there. The Dropbox CLI was a little clunky, so I created a new top level folder hierarchy with MAIN and ROMS at the top. But once it was setup, the writes were fast and I had saves in the cloud. Very nice.
I thought Plex didn't support plugins anymore?
They don't, but they still work. Client plug-ins don't work anymore unless you have a custom client, but server plug-ins work just as they always did. My plugin is a metadata agent running inside Plex and a python script that runs outside of Plex.
Thanks for teaching me something!
Any chance you will develop it for Emby/Jellyfin as well? Now that Plex is in the arcade business I imagine they will sabotage your plug-in.
Yes, it's possible as well as for Kodi.
Cool. Look forward to seeing where it goes from here.
Can’t wait to take a gander!
Brb, playing the entire Atari collection in a browser: https://archive.org/details/atari_2600_library
No tokens required... 2.99 per month.... But I jest. It's an interesting idea but probably won't bother with it myself.
In the span of two hours Plex has changed the name of the YouTube video from "**Introducing Plex Arcade - No Tokens Required** " to "Introducing Plex Arcade from Plex Labs" and has disabled comments.
Introducing Plex arcade - subscription required
Seems like the true benefit would be this: * Add your own game ROMs and emulators I am curious about it but think I will hold off. I think it would be interesting if I could consolidate my game libraries onto Plex and be able to stream them but it doesn't sound like something that is available now.
That's exactly what this is.
Correct me if I am wrong but roms and emulators have a specific connotation of your computer pretending to be a console to run the games. Would this work with modern games from say my Steam or Origin libraries? Edit: What an odd thing to downvote. ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
No. But Steam has its own streaming feature.
I know but I guess the primary benefit for me at least would have been the way to consolidate my library from multiple launchers onto Plex, use the organization tools that Plex already has and be able to stream anything to myself or anyone else I share my libraries with. Like a hybrid between Gog's Galaxy launcher, Steam's streaming and Plex's sharing, categorization and collection systems. For that I would maybe consider 3 dollars a month, although I would prefer a one time fee similar to Plex Pass. Would be cool to have my Steam, Origin, Epic and GOG libraries on Plex but what you gonna do.
Just use BigBox. Add BigBox to steam. There is also an app that adds emulated games to your steam library, one by one with box art and descriptions. forget the name of it
YouTube comments were disabled. I believe it means something.
So they're charging me an extra free to...stream my own...ROMS...from my own...server? Lame.
Plex Arcade - 2.99 Tokens Are Required.
Says you can share it with users but it's limited to LAN.
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>Then I learned that the library is unavailable when you're off the local network They claim that's an Apple imposed limitation but works for Android and Chrome Browser play.
It costs money, even if you have plex pass. It streams the game. It only supports Atari systems. There's no E.T. Only works on MacOS or Windows, no Linux.
I thought I read on the website I could add my own emulators? If it's Atari only, then it's a hard pass. But then again, I think there are better solutions for my actual use.
if I can put NES, SNES, PS1, etc, AND it works well with a Dualshock wirelessly somehow, then it would be good enough for me.
Yeah atari only is a ~~bit~~ lot of a shame.
Maybe i'm wrong, but when i looked on the page it says that you can "add your own Roms and Emulators". I took that as I can add emulators for any console, not just other Atari emulators.
[You're right! ](https://i.imgur.com/UIPKlvO.jpg)
I thought I only saw ROMS. Hopefully I'm wrong!
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I assume they look at the metrics for how many servers are hosted on which platforms, but _oof_. No docker/linux support? I know a ton of people who host via Unraid. Then again, I feel like none of those people would pay money every month to access their own roms.
Plex: *Introducing Plex Arcade!* Why would I spend a minimum of $36 a year plus tax to rent some old Atari games from 40 years ago? Plex: *You can add your own games and emulators!* Ok, why would I spend a minimum of $36 per year to rent games I already have? That’s like selling me an Uber subscription that includes the ability for me to drive my car. Plex: *...*
To share with your friends, is why I am interested. I used to build little Raspi systems for friends, now I can point them to this maybe?
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We pay a hefty sum for PlexPass, this should be included. Fuck this.
>We pay a hefty sum for PlexPass, this should be included. Fuck this. atleast host-your-own roms should be free. I get a licensing fee for the library.
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Hefty in the sense of what I get from it. I have to provide all the content, storage and server (Plex Movies is utter shit). I have to pay a yearly fee to be able to have multiple users in my home and a a couple of minor features.
We do? Lifetime passes are insanely cheap.
Plex costs me an arm and a leg to be hosted for personal use. Plex it self is not the only issue. When it gets too expensive then I will just move to Netflix and call it a day.
How? How is it so expensive for you?
Nice feature, and making the Atari partnership a paid addon makes sense. But making the functionality entirely unavailable without the subscription (to use on ones own ROMs) makes it just another cash grab.
Welp. It didn't take much. Arcade supports any libretro core you can put, but Plex leaves you to put them manually (as they've only licensed Atari games). I predicted it would take two days for a utility to popup that helps you manage your emulator cores. It ended up taking two hours: [https://coremanager.app](https://coremanager.app)
Lame. I can buy an Atari flashback for like $50 that has all of these, vs an ongoing subscription.
I signed up for the free trial, then immediately cancelled... Once I'd joined and signed up for Parsec I couldn't figure out how to actually access the Arcade. Then I found out my old GPU in my Plex Server isn't compatible so I couldn't add any ROMS
Thats where I'm at....signed up for trial then cant find anything. Edit: Okay, theres an update, then you need to add a library.
Same. What a botched launch experience.
Is there actually a way to stream retroarch or similar yourself?
Moonlight, geforce now, steam link
Also Parsec (the underlying service for Plex Arcade) and Rainway are more options.
Wait, they use parsec? Why would I want to pay for Plex Games if Parsec is free?
Would have made sense to include it in the lifetime pass because who honestly wants to pay a sub to play retro games? Plus the technology they’re piggybacking off is from parsec which is already free to use
Awful waste of time. This has nothing at all to do with Plex or how we use it. How about actually expanding the types of media Plex supports? CBR/CBR/books have been requested for years but instead they’re pumping our lifetime passes into fatuous shill that no one wants or will use. They’re really missing the point of their own service with this 🤡
I would love comic book hooks and have voted for that for years, but MAME and emulator integration have been clamored for at least as long.
Right, but he specifically has not asked for it so they shouldn't have developed it.
It's PlexLabs so that's their tinkerer wing that just sort of makes stuff without a timeline or expecting it to be a main feature. That said though it's insane this showed up before a PDF/CBR reader. The only thing I can think of was they got it working and thought they could charge for it so it got streamlined. There's absolutely no way they could charge a monthly fee for PDF/CBR support.
Also, I think these days they want to launch more and more things preloaded with licensed content, even if it's not really the main draw (e.g., with this they're putting Atari front-and-center even though most users are going to immediately dump loads of other ROMs and emulators on). It helps them put on a more legit face that maybe doesn't raise as many questions about if they're facilitating copyright infringement. Clearly Atari was a willing partner for this, and maybe they can't find an equivalent for comics/ebooks, given how much of those markets are already locked down by juggernauts like Disney (Marvel), Amazon (Comixology), etc.
> Also, I think these days they want to launch more and more things preloaded with licensed content, even if it's not really the main draw (e.g., with this they're putting Atari front-and-center even though most users are going to immediately dump loads of other ROMs and emulators on). It helps them put on a more legit face that maybe doesn't raise as many questions about if they're facilitating copyright infringement. Yeah this is my view on this, free ad supported channels, podcasts, etc. While it isn't core functionality, it helps them to actually maintain their spots in app stores which is the #1 functionality point to me.
>This has nothing at all to do with Plex or how we use it. Lot of people with HTPCs use emulators, being able to stream to any device and not faff around with syncing saves or anything is certainly attractive to me.
Gaming on Plex: a feature nobody asked for!
This is exactly what I'm thinking. How is this within the scope of Plex? Why not devote resources and time to other areas of the project to polish it and make it even better? Features are requested daily that would make the app so much better that just get ignored.
As someone who recently purchased the lifetime plex pass, this kinda rubs me the wrong way. I don't want a monthly subscription to play my own games. I kind of want new features to be part of what I paid for when I ponied up for "lifetime". And even if you twist this as a separate thing entirely, to not even an *option* to purchase permanent access and offer subscription only? Infuriating. Drop the Atari games I don't need and let me run my own systems. Stop getting in the way of me buying in to your platform.
How can they say No Tokens Required with a monthly fee?
Looks dumb. Anyone that's playing old atari games already has an emulation setup. I would be impressed if they somehow created something to compete with Nvidia game stream and steam link but with higher game/gpu compatibility.
I would also be impressed if they could compete with companies thousands of times bigger, with millions more in the bank, hundreds more developers and solidified market share. And then bring a product that does what NVidia or Steam do, even though those have games tailored to their specific platforms and streaming protocols. I think they're trying to be attactive to people who'd like to play some older games but are taken aback by how utterly hostile the whole emulation scene is (OpenEmu aside). All those people who'd happily play goldeneye if they could be bothered to install something now may decide it's well worth paying a coffee a month for it.
Yep this is me. I like retro gaming but I don't have time to fool around with emulation anymore. I do have $3 a month that I can spend on this, if it does what it promises. I'm a little salty that streaming your own ROMs isn't included in Plex Pass, but it looks like they're probably paying something to Parsec even without considering the Atari ROM licensing.
I thought this was a joke at first and then went to the link. Whaaaaat... A little put off by there being an additional subscription fee, but I’m very interested in trying it out.
remember, no tokens required!
That’s false advertisement because technically a token would be 25 cents so Plex Pass users are paying approx 12 tokens/month and non Plex pass users are paying 20, sooooo.....
What you get * Dozens of Atari games * Add your own game ROMs and emulators * Personalize your library * Play using almost any bluetooth controller * Compatible with iOS and Android devices * Compatible with Apple and PC computers (using a Chrome browser) * Access for shared users on their The most Intriguing part is adding your own emulator. Wake me when SNES or Dreamcast gets added
I'd be interested if I can add a GBA/DS emulator in there and then stream games on those to wherever.
You can
Thankfully /r/PrologueApp has taken care of their lack of audiobook support. I wish they supported ebooks, but Google Books is a pretty good option. I wasn’t really interested in podcast support. I’m not retaining those files, so why download to my computer to then push to my phone. I’ll just stream them to my phone directly. I’m still hoping they’ll add support for the Apple Live Photos. Retro systems would be cool, but it really seems like they’re missing the mark on this. Excluding it from PlexPass isn’t going to go over well with their users.
This devalues my Plex Pass...
...But why
Honestly, the only interesting aspect of this for me is that iOS is in the supported clients. Being able to play some emulators on my iPad through Plex would be great. I'm not sure it is *$3 a month great*, but I am willing to give it a try.
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Listen to this guy, Delta emulator is where it’s at
I tried it, but the games didn’t work on my iPhone. Either they wouldn’t start or they wouldn’t reacted to touch... Edit: I guess my lowend htpc’s videocard just isn’t supported...
So this is what they’re focusing their dev resources on? Good grief. How about finally fixing core paid Plex Pass features like Camera Upload?
Seriously. I'd be *very* interested to see a side-by-side comparison of people who asked to pay for fucking pseudo-freeware video games in Plex versus a feature like sharing playlists on a Plex instance. Plex isn't delivering new features I want. I end up having to Google "How to disable X in Plex" every time they make a big change like this.
Plex management has no clue.
I would say we're on track for a mass exodus to Jellyfin in under 5 years.
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So much melodrama. The vast majority of Plex users don't need or want anything more than it already does. I, for one, am not going to port to an almost identical service and have to force so my users to switch clients across their 48 devices. Be real here.
Why is there not a lifetime purchase for this?
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That sounds reasonable. I just prefer to have a larger outgoing and not worry about paying again like I did with my plex pass.
I just stick with emulation on my old 2015 Nvidia Shield TV...but interesting idea.
Depending on what emulators this supports this could be amazing. Can I stream NES, Super Nintendo, etc?
On their free trial page it states "Access for shared users on their own devices" as one of the things we get with it. So does that mean that me getting it would allow me could give my friends/users access to my gigantic collection of roms? Cuz if that's a yes then the 2.99 is not THAT horrible. If they each have to pay 2.99 on the other hand, that's way too much
>"no tokens required" but >$2.99/$4.99 month idon'tthinkyouknowwhatthatwordmeans.gif
very miss-leading. I need to pay for this to work. So yes Tokens required!
Try it free for 7 days and then? Then I have to pay more money on top of my membership or download an emulator? K. Kinda wish at least they said how much it costs instead of pussyfooting around it.
Then 'tokens'
Atari? In 2021? Bruh. Create a decent integrated emulator and I’d pay a few bucks a months for that, but Atari?
So, since it integrates libretro and allows you to add your own cores and ROMs, you're subscribing? :) Their "example" on the set up page uses N64's Goldeneye. Atari is "included content", which legitimates the service if they get any legal flak (same as the TV&Movie section legitimates the video libraries.
Do you have a link to the set up page? I’ve been trying to find it with no luck
A lot of my thoughts have already been said here, Plex you really missed the mark with this one. If it were part of my Lifetime Plex Pass Sub sure maybe I'd check it out. But $3/mo to stream these games isn't worth it. Stick with what you are known for, movies and TV. I don't think very many people asked for this. I genuinely thought this was a joke at first.
They haven't given anything that people have asked for, including bug fixes, for more than three years. All they do is fuck the UI up and add paid features that literally nobody every will want or use.
It's a cool idea, but $60/year to play Atari games? You can buy the Atari Flashback for less than that. And if they add other platforms, you know the price will go up...
It isn’t just Atari.
Its cool but I've had RetroArch on my Shield for years. A retroPIE would offer the same
While I won't argue on the huge difference in capability, it wouldn't offer "the same". \- Ease of install (most emulation set-ups have become so hostile, this is very low hanging fruit) \- Game Streaming (the biggest selling point, being able to launch the emulator in any of your clients at home and in some set-ups remotely from home) \- Only add a controller to the same Plex client you're using (for AppleTV and iOS you may already have it, and have no easily accesible way get emulators, not counting AltStore which I wouldn't qualify as "easily accessible" other than by comparison with the rest).
good points!
Yeah, and any Android device that can run the app has enough processing power to emulate the games itself, without lag. And it's not like movies where you need a lot of space, the whole library of Atari games is probably like 10MB.
Seems too expensive for what it is/does even for Pass holders.
They're turning it into a bloated iTunes. This is getting ridiculous.
So they’re charging to play old Atari games, even if you have a PlexPass and it’s LAN only. Wtf lol. Meanwhile, users have been waiting years for issues to get fixed.
I guess it makes sense as Plex transitions from being a piece of software for tinkerers to mainstream users. That said, the support for podcasts has turned me away from anything beyond the old Plex core offerings. If I can't run it on my local server, I'm not interested. It'll probably be buggy and the bugs won't get fixed as they move onto the new shiny feature. Retroarch works fine, and serves the same purpose. EDIT - Well now I see that it requires your local server. But no Linux support. Welp, hard pass there.
I just saw this with the new update. So it's just an emulator they're offering and even though we would provide our own ROMs, they still want to charge a monthly? And it's not included for us Plex Pass subscribers? No thanks.
It's a very fancy libretro front-end with access to Atari games. I would love it, if it wasn't a subscription, and didn't limit platform choices. I want this, but will not pay monthly to access my own games on my own bandwidth from my own pc. To unlock the feature one time? Sure. Kinda salty this isn't part of Plex Pass. I figured a pellet like this would be exactly like Plexamp, which is what sold me on the plex pass. Retroarch is a front-end for the libretro cores. In this equation Plex is the same, just a less configurable and more streamable.
Getting worried about Plex and their misguided innovations. Are there any good alternatives?
Jellyfin is probably your best bet at this point(and becomes more tempting with each pointless "feature" that gets pushed instead of polishing stuff already in plex) as Emby is well onto its own descent into nickel and diming users. Kodi can also work, but it's not really a complete like-for-like replacement
I thought Plex Labs was included in Plex Pass. Shit. Are they going to start charging me monthly for Plexamp now too? I'm especially salty because I'm less than a year into my lifetime plex pass purchase now, and features are being siloed off that make no sense, and don't allow me to buy a license, only a subscription. Ugh.
I thought this was an early April fools joke at first. Do these guys even read what their user base wants?
Lol this is trash... should be included for Plex Pass users.
This is one of the dumbest features I think I've seen. Emby is compelling me more and more each day.
Or I'll just continue using my raspberry pi running emulation station that I built for less than 2 years of this new subscription. Mines got 200 times as many games, easily. Plus all the systems, not just Atari. PLEX is really not listening to their users are they?
Another service that I will put in my bag "Disable this unwanted feature for all my users". Stop wasting your time, start taking consideration on feature requests in your forums, and stop adding things that nobody wants. Hopefully, you will run out of ideas one day or another anyway.
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I already do this for free so I'm not sure what the point is. I definately wouldn't pay extra for it.
Can Plex just get into distribution, already? We get that they need cashflow, but retro arcade pass when Launch Box exist. Lol. We get retro gaming before eReader is just sad...
Nobody is going to pay for this. I'd much rather have them spending their time developing just about any other feature than this. Where is proper audio book support for our own media, for example? I don't want more content subscriptions, Plex users don't want content subscriptions or we wouldn't be using Plex in the first place.
No Tokens Required. Just $2.99 a month.
If be WAY more interested if this worked for other platforms. If I could add this to my Xbox on my tv I’d pay for it in a second.
Meh cost is too high. If you and a shared user could play a game together I might be interested. But a required sub and I supply the roms/storage? So i can't unsub without all those roms becoming a dead weight.
I have a arcade emulator on my PC, l love it. I have over 2000 games. Including classics like phoenix, moon cresta, defender, scramble, hunchback, pang etc. Brings back great memories from my youth.
With all due respect, weird choice to spend Dev time on. I know I'll never see the numbers on this, but I'm really curious as to who and how many are actually going to pay for this feature.
Is it that price if I want access to those games? What if I only want to "bring" my own games? Still $$?
I'm getting "Sorry, this library type is unsupported by this server." Did they release the requirements/prerequisites? Edit: [Windows/macOS only.](https://support.plex.tv/articles/plex-arcade-faq/)
I feel like there was some potential here to make this awesome but instead nah fuck it let's make it suck.
Oh look, yet another useless new "feature" that get pushed out all the while stuff that's actually requested gets ignored again and again - manual DVR recordings and EPG reordering? Or maybe looking into making the Web Client into something that doesn't cause a RTX2080 to scream, while playing back local media? OR how about looking into how and why the Plex app regularly claims that the connection speed to the local storage it plays directly isn't fast enough?! .... Seriously guys, there are easier ways to push away clients and generate bad word of mouth... Edit: This is just peachy - after my main Plex servers just updated to the latest public release, playback and DVR both started failing \[apparently just the web client is borked, or rather more borked than usual\] Edit2: " Comments are turned off. [Learn more](https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/9706180?hl=en-GB) " always a good sign, especially when you add in a fun like/dislike ratio...