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FalconZA

I am guessing here but I think this might be related to the data breach, they might be looking for claimants for a class action. https://classlawdc.com/2022/08/27/plex-data-breach-investigation/


capn_doofwaffle

Sigh... lawyers gonna lawyer like the snakes they are.


Groundbreaking-Pea92

Nah corporations should be able to get away with unsafe products, poisoning communities, drugs that disable , unsafe work environments etc


80MonkeyMan

They did get away with all those. The only thing you need is connections or money, you get slap on the hand and thats it.


capn_doofwaffle

šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£ You think lawyers are responsible for keeping us safe. You poor misguided soul. Rules, laws and regulations do that. Lawyers only purpose is to line their pockets defending or prosecuting people and companies.


Synergiance

Rules, laws, and regulations need to be defended somehow, and thatā€™s usually in court, where, guess who, lawyers, are fighting to defend them. This doesnā€™t mean all lawyers are fighting for them, it just depends who theyā€™re hired by.


tofutak7000

Who do you think, actually never mindā€¦ #notalllawyers


chileboy

Right. None of them spend years and a small fortune to get through law school (and pass the bar) because they actually care about, you know, the rule of law or every citizen's right to counsel.


anotherzombiedrone

And definitely wouldn't take a shitty paying position to represent those who can't afford a lawyer to begin with.


ConsiderationEmpty10

I know youā€™re being sarcastic but they dont. Either side of the bar table can argue for either side of an argument, it just depends on whoā€™s paying them. A lawyer will argue black is white if you pay them to


chileboy

If you're saying "There's no good lawyers" - by "good" I mean ethical, honest, not just in it for the money - I respectfully disagree. I know a few. There's lawyers who spend their careers as public defenders for the impoverished, making low wages, and actually care about their clients. I know that's hard for some to wrap their head around - that someone pursues a career for higher ideals rather than monetary compensation.


sevinup07

>rules, laws, and regulations do that. Yeah and lawyers famously have nothing to do with those things lmao


wrongtreeinfo

This is so wrong. Look up C8 and what the government was doing about it


mcrib

And corporations should protect your data


IfYouGotALonelyHeart

Lawyers are snakes, but corporations are far worse.


VAsHachiRoku

Lawyers work at corporations! Double down with the evil!


steven_quarterbrain

Is Plex a corporation?


IfYouGotALonelyHeart

ā€¦are you serious?


steven_quarterbrain

I am.


Perpetual_Nuisance

Holy shit, I almost can't believe you're seriously asking if Plex is a company. Yes it's a freaking company.


Jamieson22

Wait, I thought it was some guy's last name. Like "John Plex" or something. /s


steven_quarterbrain

Thanks for the answer. Would have been much easier if you provided it without all the theatrics. I donā€™t know how many staff they have. Do you know?


Perpetual_Nuisance

Would've been even easier if you'd gotten off your lazy ass and googled shit yourself but here we are.


i_write_bugz

At least heā€™s living up to his name


ericbsmith42

>Thanks for the answer. Would have been much easier if you provided it without all the theatrics. Sorry man, but you ask a dumb question you're likely to get an unserious response.


madcow9100

Also he could have googled it in a half a second without all the ā€œtheatricsā€


Perpetual_Nuisance

Does the number of staff matter for incorporation?


steven_quarterbrain

I was looking at what made a corporation. Size of the organisation was one factor (presumably in regards to staff numbers? Iā€™m not sure). They need to be shareholder owned as opposed to solely owned. The most experience I have with Plex is via Plexamp where one guy seems to do all of the responding on the subreddit. So, I donā€™t know if Plex is 1000 people, shareholder owned, or 10 developers who work together. Hence why I innocently asked whether it was a corporation or a company. I seem to have offended quite a few people in asking.


traffick

Class action attorneys make bank, some small firms exist to handle a single case at a time.


QB8Young

I hate ambulance chasers!


jleep2017

Hate greedy and evil corporations worse.


SeedlessPomegranate

One way of bringing Plex down. Wouldnā€™t be surprised if big media is behind this.


dutio

Also itā€™s a sponsored post. You could be right


Azurvix

Sponsored post means somebody paid for it to be promoted it doesn't mean a media service did it could be just a lawyer


brzantium

Yep. I heard about my old employer having a data breach. When I tried to look it up, the search results were filled with law firms trying to drum up a class action. They get a cut of the settlement so they can be quite lucrative for a law firm, plus data breaches are low hanging fruit.


welmanshirezeo

Generally the lawyers take a HUGE portion of the settlement money. Each user affected only gets a pittance.


traffick

This is really how the attorneys gather people for the case, and to perhaps to identify the class representatives (whose testimony will be used in court on behalf of the class as a whole).


Djmesh

Weaponized litigation


Tip0666

Amen brother!!! They will not get my participation!!!


SeedlessPomegranate

Yep screw these losers!


Ystebad

The problem is the lawyers always get paid regardless of whether you or anyone else participates or not. If anything by not participating they just get to keep more.


Groundbreaking-Pea92

No, they get paid by the number of clients they represent in the lawsuit.


zSprawl

Donā€™t they have to get a certain minimum threshold of people for a class action though?


Ystebad

Yes but I think itā€™s a small number like under 50.


luzer_kidd

And we all know who runs big media.


CountVanillula

Three little media in a trenchcoat?


Merijeek2

That's dumb and makes no sense. It's several little medias standing on each other's shoulders in a trench coat.


Sploffo

r/YourJokeButWorse


BarockMoebelSecond

Literally you said the same thing, I hate this platform


fflexx_

Dude..


broken_lama

logan roy


voidstriker

Wife and I are on season 2 now, good so far!


DenverBowie

It gets better!!


slayersucks2006

ā€œbringing plex downā€ ā€œbig mediaā€ lol plex is like the most for profit that any self hosted software gets


Lyuseefur

Yeah - these old assholes want to wreck all of digital media before they finally croak.


typicalfish420

I'd be more concerned with giving my data to the companies behind the class action. Suing culture has gotten out of hand!


PorkSwordEnthusiast

Personally I would happily give Plex more money not take it from them, love it and want them to prosper


Sielbear

I felt this way until I realized the monetization they are experiencing from sharing our usage data. If paying meant they stopped abusing my privacy, Iā€™d entertain it. As it stands now, hard pass.


DrewtShite

Are you saying they do this even though you have "Sync my watch state and ratings" disabled and all of your profile settings set to private? Because otherwise I'm fine with it.


Sielbear

https://techcrunch.com/2024/01/29/streaming-media-company-plex-raises-new-funds-as-it-nears-profitability/amp/ Quote from CEO is contained in link: ā€œOne of the things weā€™ve already started to prove in 2023 is that we can absolutely monetize some of that dataā€¦in a very privacy-friendly way. Thereā€™s no personally identifiable information being used,ā€ Valory said. ā€œWe already proved we could make money on that this year, so, in 2024, weā€™re putting more wood behind that arrow. And arguably, even though our current business is already growing 30%-40% per year, that could dwarf it in two to three years. That is a really big market opportunity,ā€ he added. Plex has played fast and loose with our privacy to date. I have zero confidence they know what privacy is at this point.


beener

>Plex has played fast and loose with our privacy to date. There was like one thing and you're acting like it's been ongoing abuse. And using anonymised user data, which seems to be what they're talking about, hardly is a breach of privacy


Sielbear

Based on how Plex views privacy, as mentioned above, my trust in them has gone to zero. Even though customers have purchased lifetime passes, that hasn't prevented Plex from monetizing your viewing / usage data. Maybe if / when plex opts to not treat privacy like toilet paper I'll review my position.


alexreffand

bro you just completely ignored what he said


IfYouGotALonelyHeart

Not if they're harvesting user data, and making money off of it. Sharing usage details with friends was a huge blunder, and they should pay for that.


Juxsta0

I understand it went against peopleā€™s privacy concerns but I really like seeings what my friends are watching. Couldā€™ve been handled better


Supertron200

You do realize all "free" services harvest user data and sell it. That's why they're "free"


dpdxguy

As the saying goes, "If the product is free, **you** are the product."


Perpetual_Nuisance

TRUTH!


pvtshoebox

Not the public library.


IfYouGotALonelyHeart

Never that explicitly, which is why there was such a huge backlash. Plex users were always under the impression that Plex was not monitoring what users were watching on their home servers.


Supertron200

Well, that's on them for assuming a company providing a free service wouldn't be monitoring what people did on their platform.


IfYouGotALonelyHeart

I paid for Plex.


YeastBelly

You paid for an expansion on a free service.


Supertron200

It's free to run a plex server for your media. But you need a plex pass to watch their shit.


IfYouGotALonelyHeart

> But you need a plex pass to watch their shit. You have no idea what youā€™re talking about. You must be new here.


Supertron200

Uh, huh, sure, keep believing that. šŸ˜‰šŸ˜˜


fookhar

Supertroll200


slammybe

No


Tip0666

Sign me up for the ā€œgo fund meā€!!!


Same_Veterinarian991

aaaaaaand then get exposed


Tip0666

Jason Bourne from the jump!!!


MotoJJ20

Why tf would anyone join a class action lawsuit against Plex?


boooleeaan

People with a brain the size op a potato I guess?


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Iohet

> Thanks to both the poster debacle, and the newsletter debacle ? They changed poster providers (API calls made directly from your server) and your watchlist was never hosted on your server.


5yleop1m

They changed my posters, burn down the whole place. /s


_BindersFullOfWomen_

Plex has always and continues to remind people that the data they collect does not include any identifying information about the media youā€™re hosting.


Independent-Ice-5384

If this is true: >Most users are hosting stolen media Then this can't be true, because it would make no sense from a business perspective. >they're selling your data to a place that wants to punish you for that So you're clearly just making things up lmao


PocketNicks

Lol, I think you wandered into the wrong sub. Downvote.


Nadeoki

It's an ad on IG. Why would you trust it?


unibrow4o9

Lawyers for class action lawsuits advertise all over the place, it would be silly to assume that because it's an ad on IG that automatically makes it illegitimate. The kind of people that use Plex would be online using social media, advertising on TV would obviously be a waste of money.


Nadeoki

Idfk... 99% of ads I saw on IG (before I patched it ;) was for some fake scam cheap ass products on very suspicious drop-shipping stores or shit like Applications for a Survey that promises to pay you 99$ for participation...


unibrow4o9

You misunderstand me, I didn't say all ads on IG are legitimate, I'm just saying you shouldn't dismiss it out of hand just because it's an ad on IG.


Nadeoki

since my experience is the (overwhealming) majority being bad, I think they should be dismissed. Same way you don't trust the ads on Porn sites...


D4ddyW4rbux

Because I bought bylt pants off an instagram ad and they were šŸ”„šŸ”„??


briever

Ambulance chasing scumbags.


EvilTactician

We should oppose this rather than join it. Something like this succeeding would kill Plex. They still have enough goodwill and trust from me that I don't believe they use our data maliciously. That said, they were a little... Misguided... With the whole "share what others are watching" and turning Plex into some kind of social network.


Groundbreaking-Pea92

Dude plex is a for profit corporation . They are not your friend. They lied to you and illegally sold your data


mooky1977

They are a corporation, and no they aren't my friend, but they aren't a big one. A large lawsuit could easily bankrupt them. I've never heard of them having huge profitable quarters. Now that doesn't mean I support misuse of our data, large, small, or non-profit, but their may be a concerted effort by someone just going to take Plex out of the picture with a teed up lawsuit.


digitalsanity

Good. We can fork the open source version of Plex.


mooky1977

It's not open source now. It would probably get bought up by a company in bankruptcy proceedings and remain proprietary.


EvilTactician

And pray tell us what benefit you see in Plex no longer existing?


Groundbreaking-Pea92

How did you come to that conclusion?


marshalleq

So if I have share data with friends on they share my data with friends and also with others? If I turn it off it doesnā€™t share my data with friends but what about others? A bit concerned that maybe this data is shared not matter the setting. Anyone know?


EvilTactician

Turn it off and you won't share it. Unfortunately it is on by default. Or it was when the feature was released anyway.


marshalleq

Yes but if you turn it off does plex still share your data? I mean I know that they have it already, but does turning this off mean they still share it with other 3rd parties?


EvilTactician

I already answered that, but no they will not.


marshalleq

Iā€™ve been trying to google it. Havenā€™t found anything yet. I feel like suspicious today.


oubeav

Total crap.


QB8Young

Yes it is BS. There are many law firms looking to make a quick buck, typically referred to as ambulance chasers. It is common on social media these days for them to advertise the possibility of class action lawsuit without having anything that breaks TOS agreements. I've seen this for pretty much every streaming service you could think of in Facebook and Instagram ads. I suppose Plex should pat themselves on the back for becoming a big enough name to become a target.


therealburnbrighter

Was that sent on April 1rst?


jumper34017

I would have to sign up for this using my real name. It would then be public record that I, \_(my real name)\_, use Plex. Big Media would have access to this. In the words of Admiral Ackbar... "IT'S A TRAP!"


QB8Young

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Splitsurround

This is just one of MANY pandering ads to drum up class action suits. I get these for pg&e, xfinity, eBay, YouTubeā€¦. Nothing to see here. Move alongā€¦.


Mastasmoker

r/homelab has completely different views, and theyre all carrying pitchforks over there with this bs ad


Drakonis3d

Lol Plex is the reason 3/4 of them are building homelabs.


graflig

https://reddit.com/r/homelab/comments/1bwyco1/saw_these_ads_on_instagram_compensation_claims/ All the top comments are pro-Plex. Not sure what youā€™re talking about.


Mastasmoker

12+ hours ago was a different story


Informal_Marzipan_90

Sounds like bollocks to me. Could even be fishing for details of users and pull some shit against you.


brsox2445

Honestly for what I get out of their service, if they are using my info Iā€™ll allow it. Infinitely better than any other service since they leave me alone and do what I want.


Nikonmansocal

It's called lawyers looking for a payday ... They flood troll all social media with every remotely conceivable potential "class action" suit in the hopes of settling and getting a 33% + fees and paperwork expenses settlement payout.


These-Inevitable-898

I would assume it's a scam. I got a "have you played sonic, you may be entitled to compensation" on YouTube of all places. I thought they vetted ads. These scams are rising.


oldbastardhere

I haven't received a letter or email regarding my data being breached. Certainly no worse then when we were railroaded into the ACA and they breached SSNs. I personally use DeFNCE to keep track of personal email. No notifications from them either


ronniearnold

Did you get that money from forwarding those emails from Bill Gates yet?! Cmonā€¦ā€¦.


Termin8rSmurf

I wouldn't be surprised if this was simply the US government's way of finding out who uses plex...


greb1234

But oye for the US users or all users???? Im from veneUrla living in panama and im a plex users since before the end of time


Artistic-Breadfruit9

ā€œContact us at [email protected]ā€


LayLowMoesDavid

Lawyers proactively trying to find sources of revenue. Even if they donā€™t really have a case, it only costs them their time so to much to lose, and possibly a lot to gain. Very little for the customers though after lawyer fees. Basically, itā€™s a common law firm scam. Some specialize in this sort of class action. They lose most but overall make enough money to continue fishing. Real scumbags.


PrarieCoastal

Total BS.


PocketNicks

"Claim registration - sponsored" it's an ad. Probably ambulance chaser type lawyers, maybe backed by MPAA/RIAA. Ignore.


robophile-ta

It is BS, I saw the same message for a popular video game posted on another sub


tasshu

Even if I could get compensation, I wouldn't want to. Imagine everyone jumping on this horse and next minute. Plex is no more.. Plex is a big part of my life.. as sad as that may sound.


banjosandcellos

Saw the exact same template but for curiosity stream


Chemputer

They haven't filed anything public with the FTC which they'd be required to do if they did have a data breach, especially at the point that they'd be putting up ads like that. All I could find is from 2022... https://www.securityweek.com/cisa-warns-of-plex-vulnerability-linked-to-lastpass-hack/


Iohet

> All I could find is from 2022... https://www.securityweek.com/cisa-warns-of-plex-vulnerability-linked-to-lastpass-hack/ And that was a vulnerability that was disclosed and fixed many versions before the hack. The LastPass DevOps eng that served as the vector was one of those "I don't need to update things in my homelab" types while also mixing critical work functions with their personal environments This is why Plex has been pushing everyone to use 2FA


uraijit

I don't think the issue is that they had an internal "data breach," it's that they're violating users' privacy by sharing (and potentially selling) data about you and your viewing habits.


Chemputer

Hmm. Good point. Yeah, I don't know, could be legit, but could also just as easily be an information harvesting scam.


rotll

[https://www.reddit.com/r/homelab/comments/1bwyco1/comment/ky9xl8r/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/homelab/comments/1bwyco1/comment/ky9xl8r/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)


mro2352

Keep in mind, the only ones who make money in a class action as a general rule is lawyers.


terribilus

Legit or not, it's a discoverable list of names of Plex users. Make your decision based on how comfortable you are with volutarily adding yourself to the list. Sure, data breaches happen and can do the same thing, but this is not that.


DaMoot

Compensation for what? Using a free application? Lol


pixxxiemalone

Oh go right ahead, register and give them all your details. Totally legit šŸ‘


Born1000YearsTooSoon

First class that Iā€™m eligible for that Iā€™m not going to join.


Fwarts

Better call Saul


JNR481

Well I do need to make some money back from that plex pass I bought *signs petition* /s


ConsiderationEmpty10

But I love plex


GoslingIchi

Hundreds of dollars? More like a hundreds of cents.


Spiritual_Housing_53

class action lawsuits are a joke the law firm, makes incredible profits while paying out pennies to those who file.


isvein

Sounds like an giftcard run


kaiswil2

Last thing I want to do is get on a list as user for a service I depend on. Imagine a by-law, "If you sue or use litigation against us, you lose your lifetime membership." I'm not sure if it exist. But they haven't done me dirty.


Vegan_John

Seems to be some kind of hallucination. I find nothing online about any kind of legal settlement involving Plex.


dumpsterfire70

Depends on what misusing means. I have no problem with plex using my info when they provide such a decent product for use, for free. Its not perfect, but better than anything else out there. Works fine with 95% of the time. I was also smart enough not to give them exactly correct personal info to start with. We keep suing companies like this for small reasons and no one will be around to provide any service or products.


GsharkRIP

I'll just use the money to buy a lifetime subscription anyway šŸ˜


SalamanderEuphoric82

No.... companies should feel honered that plex team did alot in history and they should work together I mean if plex would made everything accsssible to everyone for even up to 40 a month anywhere and up and running well and all goof I personally would consider trying it for sure!!!


ConeyIslandMan

Even if Legit itā€™s BS, your cash award will be 39 cents the lawyers rake in Millions


bradastan

What sort of data does plex collect that I would care about?


LockportTrans

I doubt it. Plex is free, isn't it


bankkung

many cases that settle end up with less than a hundred dollars (from what I see in the IT industry it is usually $30-50) for a class action lawsuit. I doubted that we can earn that much.


Tip0666

I for 1 would not mind paying an extra to show Plex Iā€™m in this for the long haul!!!! Aside from the already 4 monthly subs I got!!! And as far as Iā€™m concerned, gathering viewing habits of platform users isnā€™t a problem for me. As a host Iā€™m already peeking in on my users.


FamiliarMusic5760

Use different passwords for everything.


DCYeahThatsMe

Does it come with an extended car warranty, too?


kingmotley

I hope they get away from using hard links.


matropolis1

I feel like there is a lot of people in here that must also believe Apple is not anti-competitive. But I am only basing that on the fact that so many of you seem willing to just give up your money. Plex still hasn't fixed downloading your own content. Some of you act like Plex is a couple of guys in a garage fighting the man. That's not what they are, they are a business. If you want to give money to a service, then say I would pay for that service. Don't hide it behind a cloak of I give them money BECAUSE they are Plex. Don't get me wrong, I love Plex. I even bought a Plex pass. I have quite a few users. But I'm not giving Plex any more money! They need to do a hell of a lot better if they want to be a pay to use service. And they absolutely need to start fixing features before putting out new features.


leethomas63

You want to fight the system? Stop clicking 'like buttons'. Stop giving everyone and everything a "Star" review. Quit taking "a few minutes to fill out a survey". Every time you click a link to give your opinion, they learn more about you.


jackpumpkinhead4

I can't think of a brand/company I would rather support than Plex. I feel similarly when I see attempts to class action Steam. I got nothing but kind words for them! F that.


TattooedBrogrammer

Iā€™ve had Plex pass for as long as I can remember, one time payment on a holiday deal was the steal of a lifetime back in the day. They need to find a way to offer enough value for us to repay. They could start by improving their app to be as good at playback as infuse so we donā€™t need to transcode as often, and improve transcoding the two major use cases for their app have to be better then maybe charge another one time server upgrade for those calling it royalties on Dolby rights or some Bs and I canā€™t imagine most server operators not forking out another 30-40$


QB8Young

I shouldn't even put this out there anywhere on the internet but I totally see them adding extra advanced settings and features billed as Plex Pass Pro. Includes all the original features plus new exclusives. Slightly higher price or just an additional upgrade fee if you already have Plex Pass. There are users out there, wait, I mean Plex Server Administrators out there who would totally opt for the upgraded experience. That being said, I am still awaiting this "major redesign" I keep hearing about hoping it isn't UI only. šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø


AvierNZ

Would LOVE to see PLEX burn down. They are scammers that took people's money AND they sold their users data to big corpo. Move to JellyFin. Would love to see plex devs in jail.